Is There A Right Way To Protest?

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Protests can be peaceful one minute. Chaotic the next. And can even turn violent a minute after that. This episode looks at not WHY people protest, but HOW. Is there a right way to protest?
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*What are the general rules around protesting in the U.S.?*
If you head over to the ACLU’s website to look up what your rights are when protesting, it’s kinda sad. You can stand on the sidewalk with a sign, but you can’t get in the way of people as they walk by. You can pass out leaflets, but you can’t block entrances to buildings. Oh, and if you want to, you know, march in the street with a bunch of people, there’s a good chance you’ll need to get a permit. It can be hard to make an impact if you’re following all the rules.
*How did people view Martin Luther King Jr. and the protests he led back in the 60s?*
Today, Martin Luther King and the civil rights movement are pretty much universally admired. But back in the 60s they were super controversial. A poll from 1961 found that 57 percent of Americans thought the Freedom Riders and sit-ins at lunch counters hurt the chances of integration in the South. And after the 1963 March on Washington, where MLK delivered his “I Have a Dream” speech, 74 percent of Americans believed mass demonstrations harmed the cause.
*So, is there a RIGHT way to protest?*
No. There isn’t REALLY a right way to protest. But we do know that as protests get more extreme, they usually get less support from the public. At the end of the day, protests are a battle to win over public opinion, and to do that, they have to navigate a weird dilemma. More extreme actions get more media attention that can spread awareness to more people, but at the same time, if it’s perceived as TOO extreme, some people might be reluctant to support the protest.
SOURCES
Speaking and Protesting in America (American Archive of Public Broadcasting)
americanarchive.org/exhibits/...
Why Protest Movements Are ‘Civil’ Only in Retrospect (NY Times)
www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/us...
What Protests Can (And Can’t) Do (Vox)
fivethirtyeight.com/features/...
Your Rights When Protesting (ACLU)
www.aclusocal.org/en/know-you....
Protests Seen as Harming Civil Rights Movement in the '60s (Gallup)
news.gallup.com/vault/246167/...
Extreme Protest Tactics Reduce Popular Support for Social Movements (SSRN)
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...
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@AboveTheNoise 3 года назад

Protests -- as American as apple pie, right? Well, turns out protests are pretty controversial and are a hot topic during the current Presidential election. We want to hear from YOU: is there a "right way" to protest something you think is wrong, and how far are YOU willing to go to make your point?

@likebot. 3 года назад

Y'know, each protest has its own context and are as different from each other like people are different from each other. The right way to protest would be unique in each case and shouldn't be the question as much as why establishment won't consider their point. There needs to be an avenue for complaints from significant populations to bring an education to an establishment which causes an oppression by design or accident of ignorance. So far getting out and protesting as we see it is effective enough to put it on the radar, but we can't let people in power, be it white priviledge, government or other organizations, use a strawman argument invalidating the message of the protest because it has violations of civil obedience. Civil disobedience is a much needed tool.

@LorenaTheWitch 3 года назад

I love this channel, I wish it got more exposure

@AboveTheNoise 3 года назад

Thanks for the love! We do, too. Spread the word!

@cosmicwonderhoof133 3 года назад

You can try make them go on recommends by putting in the comment section. #AboveTheNoise

@kittenclaws5775 3 года назад

I'm a medic and got started in OWS. Literally, up until I was waist deep in it, I would have told you protest was pointless. But I actually spoke with lots of people who's view were counter to mine and did a lot of reading. NYPD physically assaulting me for mostly obeying the law and trying to render aid did not slow my change in opinion. I would say, if anything, having cops attack you for literally no reason does quite a bit to radicalize a person.

@ForumArcade 3 года назад

I think one of the biggest challenges facing the protest movements of today is that there is much less recourse for civil disobedience. In King's era, to cause massive disruption all you needed to do as a black person was sit in an area that was reserved for whites. 0 violence, but it created an uproar. How would you do the same in the BLM protests today? You follow the rules and march? Nobody cares. Our governments are very good at ignoring inconvenient realities. And once the protests began to feature more violence and radical action, that did initially garner more political response [citation needed], which in turn reinforces the notion to the average protester that violence is an effective tool. We can see the opposite today play out in Belarus. That is by most accounts a largely peaceful protest, because the very act of protesting in itself creates the necessary political uproar. Iconic civil disobedience. And yet, the protests are against a government which deliberately and systematically ignores the will of its own people. And it's gone on now for months, without much headway. The idea of the government seems to be that it can outlast this spurt of political motivation in its people. Eventually they will have to go back to work, accept the status quo, or starve. And the protestors seem as of yet unwilling to employ more extreme tactics. Instead it is a siege. Belarus benefits from two things I believe are less present in the US. The first is dedication. People there are willing to walk away from their livelihoods to protest a system which they believe is abhorrently unjust, and to keep protesting for weeks on end. Does that same will exist in the US? I don't believe so. There are protests in the wake of every new affront, however they tend to die down inside of a week or two. The US protest machine requires regular fueling to continue to operate, which in itself encourages the sensationalizing of stories that otherwise wouldn't necessarily merit that kind of attention. The second benefit the Belarus protests have over the US ones is effective and coordinated leadership (which incidentally the Belarusian government has been trying very hard to eliminate). A protest without good leadership either disperses or it becomes an unruly mob. And in the US, I believe the protests have been driven more by spontaneous emotion than by a coordinated effort to affect real change.

@01eocoe10 3 года назад

This gave me a lot of food for thought- thanks for sharing! The biggest protest I've taken part in was a Critical Mass bike ride for BLM in San Francisco. Very peaceful and well-organized; streets shut down for a couple miles and everything. These days I've been thinking a lot about just how far I'm willing to go for things I believe in. Coronavirus adds an entirely different angle to this because, as someone at risk, even peaceful in-person protests feel somewhat dangerous.

@connor863 3 года назад

Hi Myles. Would you be able to make a video on what makes a protest effective, what makes a movement effective, and how protests can actually change things?

@Haseri8 3 года назад

The right way to protest shouldn't be defined by anyone comfortable with the status quo

@AboveTheNoise 3 года назад

Boom! Great quote (and point).

@jaijaiwanted 2 года назад

Fantastic content, such an underrated channel

@neonbunnies9596 3 года назад

Violence makes people watch for media, which makes people which more ads, which gives the media companies more money. Therefore, it is the best interest to run the more violent and pessimistic stories

@maynard04 3 года назад

Well we condemn entire systems if just a few people are thought to be racist.

@Libertino 3 года назад

This is the RU-vid channel I need.

@AboveTheNoise 3 года назад

Welcome! Thanks for watching!

@raidanbolt4844 3 года назад

The protesters need to hold the violent ones accountable to preserve the core message.

@Sivah_Akash 3 года назад

Informative video especially sharing that previous protests were similar to today's.

@661.julian4 3 года назад

I’m glad my teacher showed us this video today

@erdood3235 3 года назад

I know I'm late, but, in my experience with public opinion of protests in Israel (where i live), peaceful protests might get a lot of support from the public, but that support doesn't translate into action. the greater support for peaceful protests is because they can be ignored. maybe people tell in surveys that they support peaceful non-diruptive protests so they can feel like good people.

@springboard9642 2 года назад

I wonder about effective protest. The Hong Kong protests come to mind. They want democracy, I think. But how? What do they want to happen tomorrow that brings democracy? Is how important? Initially, the Hong Kong protests were against a specific law, and it worked. They continued to protest and essentially a new law with the same effect was made. Did they shoot themselves in the foot, or just buy some time? How do you protest in a way that not only shows what you're against, but also advances your cause?

@yosefjambi9540 3 года назад

in Canada its way hard when I'm marching

@veta0104 3 года назад

If this was before I had kids I would absolutely risk jail time and possibly my life. Now that I have kiddos I have to be more selective in what ways I can participate in the movements that are happening around the country

@Sufganiyot 3 года назад

underrated

@angelamossucco2190 Месяц назад

Excellent resource

@AboveTheNoise Месяц назад

Thank you for watching!

@purplecubeman01 Год назад

Thats fairly accurate what was said about some forms alienating yhe movement. I was driving home after work last year during the whole Cuban protests, and they blocked off a major highway for two hours, causing severe gridlock and making it so nobody could move, going so far as using a huge boat to block off the road one way. At first I was with the protests around the US wanting to help anybway I could. But now I'm not helping with any kind of protest like that. That's protesting that is destructive. Since then. I've been weary of helping with any protest.

@connormonday 3 года назад

On the topic of the way what we see on tv influences our perception of protests, I think it would be useful to consider how that same distorting lens influences how we perceive policing in this country. Many of the claims about systematic racism in policing are not borne out by the facts and are instead supported by anecdotal evidence that often turns out to be misleading or completely false (Jacob Blake, Breonna Taylor, and Michael Brown as the most egregious example). This leads people to be concerned that there is a bad faith interest in creating racial division rather than healing. I think this does more to discredit the BLM movement than the violence.

@juddstrudd7018 3 года назад

Violence begets violence, hate beckons hate

@mornon2394 3 года назад

Do you know any footage from the same protest showing peaceful protesting, then the same protest turned violent? Also for different sources would be fine.

@100aimlessthoughts8 3 года назад

Also worthy of note is that protests are like a hammer, loud and attention grabbing. A great start but causes more harm than good if not thought through. If you have 2 pieces of wood nailed together you can hit them until they come apart or you use the claw and a buffer to remove the nail without damaging the wood. Sorry, in short protests aren't meant to magicaly solve problems, they're just to get the ball rolling and expecting more from them is like trying to open a window with a hammer, it can be done but it's more trouble than it's worth.

@AboveTheNoise 3 года назад

That's a useful analogy. Thanks for sharing!

@ryanmcfall1127 3 года назад

I personally think there is a right way to protest, protests that cause property damage or physical harm should not be tolerated. While protests that follow the law and even protests that engage in civil disobedience (ie illegal actions that don't damage property or lives like loitering or trespassing on public property) can be justifiable.

@supermikeikev 3 года назад

Alright but what about the effectiveness of violent vs peaceful protest?

@jacquelinemanzano9328 Год назад

“If you wish to keep slaves, you must have all kinds of guards in place. The cheapest way to have guards is to have the slaves pay taxes to finance their own guards. To fool the slaves, you tell them that they are not slaves and that they have freedom. You tell them that they need law and order to protect them against bad slaves. Then you tell them to elect a government. Give them freedom to vote and they will vote for their own guards and pay their salary. They will then believe they are free persons. Then give them money to earn, count, and spend, and they will be too busy to notice the slavery they are in.” - Alexander Warbucks “if the American people knew what we have done, they would string us up from the lamp posts,” by George H.W. Bush

@NDUWUISI 3 года назад

It's not a matter of right or wrong protesting but more effective and less effective protest.

@cosmicwonderhoof133 3 года назад

"The more I feel Im not heard the louder I shall get."-My dog when she wants food. How far I'll go to be heard will probably depend on what I'm put through, if I feel what I'm protesting is worse than what they'll do to me if I break a law while protesting I'll probably break a law to be heard and get what I want. #AboveTheNoise

@karleighwesley6704 9 месяцев назад

FOR REAL IS THERE?

@NDUWUISI 3 года назад

Unlesa the protest is a bout people's right to block the road, then blovkimg the road will distract from the goal of your protest. And if your protest does not have a specific goal then it gets into clout chasing territory and you need to re-examine your protest.

@Hansca 3 года назад

Can anyone give me an example of a time where protesting in the streets has brought about change?

@AboveTheNoise 3 года назад

That's a good question...and possibly a good follow-up to this video.

@maynard04 3 года назад

www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/11/05/peaceful-protest-is-much-more-effective-than-violence-in-toppling-dictators/%3foutputType=amp I’m pretty sure peaceful protests get better results.

@ChadPANDA... 3 года назад

It takes longer but it has long lasting effects and more impact on future than violence based riots

@Hansca 3 года назад

@@maynard04 The question is, when has protesting in the streets, violent or non violent, ever brought about change? I'm 58, I've seen hundreds of street protests but I've never seen one that resulted in the protestors getting what they want. It seems to me that street protests are more about throwing a tantrum than they are about achieving change.

@alexanderhetzel8271 3 года назад

@@Hansca Politicians have to do their work, by introducing new or changing existing laws. However they don't work in a vacuum, they are influenced by public opinion. And that is where protests come in. They show that a big enough part of the population care strongly about an issue that has so far not adequately been dealt with in politics.

@LifeAvoiding Год назад

I’ve already lost so much, I no longer fear death I mean, I do, but if I died for the cause I don’t really care Meh

@jaymcmillan2038 3 года назад

I don't get it because the way you say the media only shows the chaotic but why are the chaotic actions in the protest anyway and how do you call that a peaceful protest

@JackieLarose 2 месяца назад

Palestine Israel, are you watching?

@choedzin 3 года назад

Since there have been proven incidences of undercover police or government agents provoking violence at demonstrations, I simply assume this to be the source of most of the violence at protest marches. As for the rest, I simply assume they're trying to Do The Right Thing .