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Is There Any Hope for Halo? 

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With the recent layoffs at Microsoft and 343 Industries, many have started to question the future of Halo Infinite and the franchise itself. Is there any hope for Halo? After so much has gone wrong? Only one way to find out...
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Introduction - 0:00
The Layoffs - 3:00
Joe Staten Leaving Halo - 7:38
Who Should Make Halo Games? - 8:20
Microsoft’s Role - 10:10
Notable People to Leave 343 Industries - 11:51
What is the Cause of 343i’s Woes? - 15:30
Is There Any Hope For Halo? - 21:02
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@TheActMan
@TheActMan Год назад
Thanks to Bespoke Post for sponsoring this video! New subscribers get 20% off their first box - go to www.bespokepost.com/act20 and enter code ACT20 at checkout. With the recent layoffs at Microsoft and 343 Industries, many have started to question the future of Halo Infinite and the franchise itself. Is there any hope for Halo? After so much has gone wrong? Only one way to find out...
@notchapplez4378
@notchapplez4378 Год назад
Almost beat you
@zerokhangaming
@zerokhangaming Год назад
First
@vampdizzy9461
@vampdizzy9461 Год назад
Not halo too it’s so sad to see
@TheVillageBeast
@TheVillageBeast Год назад
Hit some calisthenics with me bruv 💪🏿💪🏿
@Mr.NiceGuy82
@Mr.NiceGuy82 Год назад
😂
@fallensaiyan4564
@fallensaiyan4564 Год назад
Joe was the master of Halo storytelling but when the world needed him most….he vanished.
@xaiphon7251
@xaiphon7251 Год назад
My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace, where Halo lived in harmony, but then, everything changed when 343 attacked...
@dust195
@dust195 Год назад
@@xaiphon7251 Frank O’Connor*
@SilentKnight234
@SilentKnight234 Год назад
So..what you're saying is, get your pickaxes ready to dig him out of an iceberg?
@drrobocar6459
@drrobocar6459 Год назад
Oof…
@RavagHer
@RavagHer Год назад
better to go out as a hero than to be there long enough to end up as the villian.
@awoo9746
@awoo9746 Год назад
4:37 "Now is not a good time to ask when are playable elites coming back, you know the answer, its never" that hurts like energy daggers in both hearts
@Spike2276
@Spike2276 Год назад
I can feel the WORTWORTWORT in my soul
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
Anything that 343 removes never comes back and if it does its a botched version of it. Then you have 100 343 drones that defend the removals of features because "they had no purpose and there is no point" Its sad that people defend less detail being added in games now.
@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778
@Korozola They did. Removing them from matchmaking is not removal of the feature entirely, Atleast bungie bothered to actually have them in for reach, Them not being matchmaking doesn't matter. 343 removed them because they wanted to make multiplayer canon.
@sterlingburton5107
@sterlingburton5107 Год назад
@Korozola Funny you talk about critical thinking yet fail to do any of it yourself. Bungie lowered the impact of playable elites because the caused balance issues, but they were still available in non-standard game modes and custom games. The feature was still there even if lessened. 343 just removed the whole thing then spits some nonsense about "halo is a spartan story". Nobody was complaining about elites in reach. And as for dual-wielding, Bungie never even tried to balance them. All they ever attempted was "Two gun do 2 damage" or "1 gun do half damage because 2 gun do too much damage". Never did it occur to them that they could just have single wielding do regular damage and just not spawn 2 SMG right next to each other. Make player travel across the map to find the other one. Or they could have treated DW like a power up, where you get to Dual wield for 45 sec. 343 literally added damage boost as powerup in Halo 4 which has the same effect accept it boost the damage of the entire sandbox, not just sidearms.
@DANTE83100
@DANTE83100 Год назад
As someone who owns a PS5 (personal preference). I have to say it's sad to see what's happening to Halo. It's such an iconic and important franchise. The legacy and inspiration it's had can't be denied.
@ELSNightcore
@ELSNightcore Год назад
Respect to you my good sir.
@ELSNightcore
@ELSNightcore Год назад
We rise up as United gamers and love all good games no matter the device.
@thebadwolf3088
@thebadwolf3088 Год назад
@GoTi4No They have Forspoken... Maybe it'd be better if they really had no games.
@Cheezdealer
@Cheezdealer Год назад
​@@goti4no820 I can't even remember the last time an Xbox exclusive came out that I cared about. Forza Horizon 5 maybe? Granted in the near future there will be more, Starfield and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 namely. Doesn't matter for me tho, with a PC, PS5 and Switch I can play literally any game that comes out. Take that poor people 🤣
@dante19890
@dante19890 Год назад
Ye but mostly its bungies Halo games. 343 hasnt really left a mark
@CeeCee222
@CeeCee222 Год назад
Halo will ALWAYS have a special place in my heart. Halo CE-Reach was just perfection. The golden ages.
@QueekHeadtaker
@QueekHeadtaker Год назад
lol so dumb, Reach was a disaster, reticle bloom anyone??
@Disturbance42
@Disturbance42 Год назад
@@QueekHeadtaker Reach was a masterpiece, just because you're a tard with a shit opinion doesn't mean anything
@underground5682
@underground5682 Год назад
@@QueekHeadtaker lol so dumb, reach was awesome. Keep your opinion to yourself clown.
@timratliff5646
@timratliff5646 Год назад
@@QueekHeadtaker I started with reach and that game is so bad. Halo 2 is the best for me as it’s just so fast paced and competitive. I’ve realized that me being a reach kid is the reason I like COD more than halo when I was younger. Halo Reach sucks
@jordanmason7127
@jordanmason7127 Год назад
@@timratliff5646 nah, i remember a lot people were angry when it released same with ODST but overall they were good games and far better then anything 343 has shat out in their entire existence.
@skully3242
@skully3242 Год назад
I’ve finally accepted that Halo will never be the same. Reach was supposed to be the end, and it was.
@AzureSymbiote
@AzureSymbiote Год назад
Halo 3 was supposed to be the end. But they kept milking it.
@deafbyhiphop
@deafbyhiphop Год назад
@@AzureSymbiote It was Bonnie Ross' idea to monopolize Halo after Bungie left. The TV shows, her idea, the bad books and comics that tied into halo 4 and 5, her idea, the terrible toys, her idea. She wanted to Star Wars Halo and just assumed the franchise will remain popular forever without putting priority on the quality of main thing that mattered, the games.
@MichaelBailee
@MichaelBailee Год назад
According to Marcus there were plans for Halo beyond the battle at the Ark. As far as I know, part of the reason that didn't manifest is because Bungie felt they needed another 3 games to pace it right, and they only had time for 2 more after the ambition of Halo 2 caused cuts and the need to move some of that plot to Halo 3.
@keilafleischbein59
@keilafleischbein59 Год назад
@@MichaelBailee Marcus can say whatever he wants. Jason hates sequels and wanted to make destiny. Something isn't true just because Marcus says so. And just because what Marcus says is true, doesn't mean everyone in charge agreed with him.
@snimon5824
@snimon5824 Год назад
@@deafbyhiphop You can monopolize a franchise and make it good if you know what your doing. Thing is, Microsoft and 343 don't know what they are doing. Halo by design from its world to its theme are very suitable to be a franchise. As opposed to say Dark Souls where its theme is just wanting it to end, so it would be weird to continue after its grand finale. Things like Star Wars or COD would work as long running franchises while things like Uncharted can only stretch itself so far. We can look at other franchise that are "milked", franchise that their fans love or hate them, franchise that still continue to this day, some work and some don't.
@ahajordon001
@ahajordon001 Год назад
As someone who works in the film industry, I think that incompetent leadership is just everywhere in art and entertainment. A lot of people at the top have never created anything in their lives, so they just lack any perspective on what it takes to make a AAA game or billion dollar movie.
@bobbyhillthuglife
@bobbyhillthuglife Год назад
Yep, especially when the companies are built up inorganically and just handed a bunch of money and an IP. Bungie was an established dev with a long history of success and failure before Halo CE, they had learned their lessons the hard way. 343i is just Microsoft trying to wave a chequebook around and create a replacement. That's not how creative fields work. They would have done much better to find an already-established FPS maker that had already gone through their growing pains.
@TsMHicks
@TsMHicks Год назад
It's not just art and entertainment. Financial firms, tech firms, etc etc.people at director level and up are oblivious to literally everything and think so narrowly. But if the money flows in, it only re-enforces their direction
@MJKeenan30
@MJKeenan30 Год назад
It isn't incompetent leadership. It's political leadership. They would rather push their propaganda than make a profitable product. They know exactly what they are doing. Both industries can't burn down soon enough. Hopefully this recession will be their last gasp.
@razorback9999able
@razorback9999able Год назад
What caused incompetent leadership in the first place?
@neinstein-says
@neinstein-says Год назад
Remember when people were hired based on merit?
@lemmy154
@lemmy154 Год назад
Halo 4: Is there any hope for halo? Halo5: Is there any hope for halo? Halo infinite: Is there any hope for halo?
@177SCmaro
@177SCmaro Год назад
Infinite's art direction was one of the things they got right.
@josiahgibson6373
@josiahgibson6373 Год назад
They only got it right after they reworked it following the significant backlash over the artwork shown at E3 2020.
@alphanoodle1877
@alphanoodle1877 Год назад
@@josiahgibson6373 you mean over the graphics. The artwork was praised from the very beginning, as well as the gameplay
@kestaskuliukas5296
@kestaskuliukas5296 Год назад
The campaign wasnt’ bad to be fair.. multiplayer is good too. Actually the whole game kinda slaps when you peel back the cheeto-encrusted halo 2 fanboy rage
@kraigisboss
@kraigisboss Год назад
@@kestaskuliukas5296 Content is the problem with very few maps and game modes to work with. Plus forge is having problems with guidelines things which there are still no official forge guidelines.
@TheArkhamKnight1893
@TheArkhamKnight1893 Год назад
True but the body proportions or something makes especially the Reach armor core look strange or off along with sizing down the commando shoulders which is weird
@SyntaxWyntax
@SyntaxWyntax Год назад
AS a programer I can say without a shadow of a doubt that trying to fix someone else's code is fkn hard af especially when you dont have the person who worked on it to ask questions
@brendameistar
@brendameistar Год назад
As a non developer, even I can see that it's fkin retarded to use contract work for a massive AAA project.
@Patrickdaawsome
@Patrickdaawsome Год назад
Unless unit tests were written.
@theoathman8188
@theoathman8188 Год назад
Sometimes I find it hard to fix my code
@brazwen
@brazwen Год назад
As a full stack developer I can confirm. Even just some basic web code made by someone else , especially old code, can be infuriating to work with.
@Unknown-wb1bf
@Unknown-wb1bf Год назад
@@brazwen How much easier would you think Unreal engine 5 blueprints would be compare to normal code?
@Lamp37820
@Lamp37820 Год назад
One of the best things 343 has done with halo, is create that scene of the Spartan looking super sad and alone. It allows everyone to express how they are feeling, as the chief.
@MozambiqueEnjoyer6097
@MozambiqueEnjoyer6097 Год назад
That scene always made me think about a 6'8 1st Grader pouting because he got put in Time Out.
@mix7893
@mix7893 Год назад
Funny how to this day we still have no acknowledgement of who that was even supposed to be or what the context surrounding that scene was 🙃🙃
@TheFinalOutpost
@TheFinalOutpost Год назад
I will give 343 massive credit for delivering and polishing the MCC on PC over the last 3 years. When new Halo games are blundered and broken, at least we'll always have a functional MCC.
@cdyjv118
@cdyjv118 Год назад
But the game still crashes on occasion
@AmbientMess
@AmbientMess Год назад
Wasn't it a collab effort with other companies?
@pancock3820
@pancock3820 Год назад
that's funny, I recently started a play through with my buddy and we found an awesome glitch where if you alt tabbed the game it would continue to run in the background, not being able to alt tab back into said game + it disappeared from my task menu process's but luckily steam has a kill button.
@DillionDanisFandom
@DillionDanisFandom Год назад
@@pancock3820 still happens to me lmao
@theguitarhero898
@theguitarhero898 Год назад
Haha I can’t even find a match!
@gareth0412
@gareth0412 Год назад
It seemed like the campaign map was designed to be opened up. There were distant islands that looked quite developed and open to exploration.
@onyxserenitatem7636
@onyxserenitatem7636 Год назад
19:56 hits hard They didn’t listen to anything the fans told them. We told them exactly what they were doing wrong, how to fix it, what to do next. And they just ignored it all.
@mattk7865
@mattk7865 Год назад
That clip is the culmination of the hollowness many Halo fans feel
@alexlyster3459
@alexlyster3459 Год назад
I mean it does seem like they at least tried pretty hard. Calling it lying is maybe a bit strong, but they absolutely didn't excecute on the promise as planned. Guarantee it was the switch to open world that put an end to Split Screen.
@bliiild
@bliiild Год назад
@@alexlyster3459 ya the open world decision was dumb as fuck imo
@dodgsonwevegotdodgsonhere9970
@alex lyster Why must you continue to defend garbage?
@shashwat7089
@shashwat7089 Год назад
@@alexlyster3459 They lied, results matter. The world you're looking for is incompetent as there have been many instances where split screen has been incorporated in an open world for example, borderlands 3. There's no need to defend them.
@PsychoKrueger
@PsychoKrueger Год назад
Me then: "Halo infinite will be great, I can't wait to play it" Me now: "LIES FOR THE WEAK..... BEACONS FOR THE DELUDED"
@IwinMahWay
@IwinMahWay Год назад
We trade one trash game for another..
@PsychoKrueger
@PsychoKrueger Год назад
@Thomas It's definitely their best campaign, that's for sure
@JJJBunney001
@JJJBunney001 Год назад
The gameplay is great all over, its just the lack of content
@ConfusedGeriatric
@ConfusedGeriatric Год назад
@@PsychoKrueger Halo 1, 2 and Reach all had campaigns with great plot and writing that conveyed some epic emotions. Honestly can’t say the same for Infinite
@gtrblackhawk
@gtrblackhawk Год назад
@Thomas fun!? In the way it was different? Okay. I guess but the story makes zero sense if you’ve paid attention to Halo at all.
@malachia2888
@malachia2888 Год назад
I grew up with Halo. When I was young, my dad used what little money we had as a family at the time to get me and my siblings an Xbox. With that Xbox, he got us a couple of games, one of them being Halo: Combat Evolved. Every day when I got back from school, I would hop on to play Halo with my brother, and we would have so much dumb fun. Halo 2 came out eventually and that was all we could think of for a long time. Late nights playing Halo 2 on Xbox Live, trashing others online and then proceeding to get no kills for the entire game... This is what dominated my life, along with my brother and many others. When the "Believe" ad campaign had rolled out for Halo 3, the excitement was at an all-time high. My brother and I would spend hours every day talking about how excited we were for Halo 3, while playing Halo 2 to prepare ourselves. Despite our attempts, nothing could've prepared us for what Halo 3 would mean for us both. We got our copy of Halo 3 and spent an entire day going through that campaign split-screen. When we got to the end of the warthog run, we both couldn't stop from sobbing. We moved a ton throughout our childhood, and could never carry many true friendships because of that. When everything would change around us, the Master Chief and Cortana were there for us. The Arbiter was there for us. Sgt Johnson was there for us. The countless nameless marines and ODSTs were there for us. Halo and its community was always still there for us. My brother and I spent so many hours online playing Halo 3, goofing off, having fun, and waiting for the news on where Halo was going to go. Halo 3: ODST and Halo: Reach were just as incredible to us when they came out. They only served to deepen our love for the franchise. These memories that my brother and I have made with this series will never disappear. They are part of our identities now. That being said, it does sadden me to see the state in which Halo has found itself in, these days. I truly do hope that things can get better and more people can experience Halo like my brother and I did. I think I'm done with the series. I will cherish every moment I spent with Halo and I will remember it all, but I think that's what it needs to stay as for me; a distant and bittersweet, yet core memory. P.S. Sorry for the wall of text.
@warmfridge3320
@warmfridge3320 Год назад
That’s fucking awesome man!! tho I wasn’t playing ce and 2 as early as you, the series means as much to me as it does to you :)
@elianimationgames1327
@elianimationgames1327 10 месяцев назад
Only halo games I got on disc is 3 and infinite but I gotta say the memory’s were amazing!
@themadsuika3909
@themadsuika3909 Год назад
"The problem was you have 3 AI companions from start to finish" Halo 5 gave me Gears of War PTSD of AI teammates going from Brick intelligence to Sub-Brick when you go down and they try to reanimate you. Just to get executed or die of sadness and cringe
@saintsrobbed6450
@saintsrobbed6450 Год назад
I remember the Halo 5 days, and your older videos. I thought the worst of Halo was behind us. It's disappointing to see the state of Infinite right now. This should've been revival for the series.
@MrKarateMain
@MrKarateMain Год назад
Halo 5’s multiplayer was goated and we didn’t even realize it. I would still be playing like I did when it first came out to this day but there’s just not enough players.
@saintsrobbed6450
@saintsrobbed6450 Год назад
@@MrKarateMain Completely agree. I loved playing Halo 5 with friends, but came to love the entire multiplayer experience during the lockdown. I played the hell out of that game in 2020 and 2021. Boy do I miss it.
@thel8815
@thel8815 Год назад
343 was never gonna revive Halo
@TheActMan
@TheActMan Год назад
Lol I thought it was too. Never imagined stuff like theater would be broken in Halo for over 8 years
@thel8815
@thel8815 Год назад
@@TheActMan 343 never fails to disappoint.... They always come up with new innovations
@LukePuzzar234
@LukePuzzar234 Год назад
I still can't believe that after all their failures, 343 had the arrogance to think they could pull off a live service game.
@megaman37456
@megaman37456 Год назад
They did though, Halo 5 WAS a live service game and people loved the multiplayer.
@ThePilleroflightning
@ThePilleroflightning Год назад
@@megaman37456 Halo 4 and 5 literally only got the numbers they did at first simply because “Halo” was tagged onto it. No shit it’s going to sell somewhat well, but the reception was HORRIBLE. Numbers declined fast as fuck and nobody hardly talked about them aside from maybe a forge update.
@megaman37456
@megaman37456 Год назад
@@ThePilleroflightning And what does that say about Infinite? Halo 4 was a fully functional, finished game upon release, the only reason it didn't quote "do well" unquote is because this community is one of the ones full of the biggest hypocritical crybabies on the internet. Halo 5's multiplayer WAS actually popular and still is the campaign is what went wrong there. Infinite pulled a reported 20 mil at launch bigger than ANY Halo game and lost it's playerbase FASTER than any other Halo game. Halo 4 may have been controversial but at the end of the day it's still a good Halo game, same with 5. Infinite is not because it's not even a game, it's a storefront with mini-games attached.
@LukePuzzar234
@LukePuzzar234 Год назад
@@megaman37456 I think what I'm getting at is that since 5 and mcc, every game has not been content complete at launch. MCC took years to fix loads of its bugs. I understand that 5 has it's fans and that's fine but you can't deny that it wasn't content complete for a halo game on launch. The free to play live service that infinite tries is waaaaay more content intense than anything that 343 has done before. So with their record or struggling to just get a halo launch to have content that we've cone to expect alongside constant content updates was a massive idiotic push that the management went for. If the company hasn't been able to launch a game that fans consider content complete or not buggy as hell for almost a decade, it's a joke to try free to play. Halo isn't on top now because of 343 and no trend chasing is gonna change that. I'd suggest to put all effort into the next game being content complete and ensuring that 343 hits that target. Then and only then should 343 attempt what infinite went for. If they could actually create the content quick enough infinite would of been a sensation. But you can't just gaslight yourself as a company and aim for that when you can't even get basics right in terms of launching a finished game.
@dTheHammerb
@dTheHammerb Год назад
Delusional Leadership* thought they could pull off a live service game.
@diosama6659
@diosama6659 Год назад
You know, when I first heard of the 10 year service that Infinite promised I thought that perhaps they will expand the campaign in chapters. Tbh I wish they did that even if it was dlc because one of the main things about Halo is the story itself. Shame that it's probably never going to happen 😞.
@5stargrim
@5stargrim Год назад
Watching this happen to halo over the last decade has been like watching a part of my childhood die
@tiredman99
@tiredman99 Год назад
My biggest gripe with Halo Infinite was that I couldn't command Marines and even when I saved them they would just follow me around and disappear if I fast travelled. I really wish I could've assigned them to fire bases and have them defend those areas cause it's not like the banished would just ignore losing territory
@justsomehalofan4386
@justsomehalofan4386 Год назад
I still believe that halo infinite going open world was one of it's biggest mistakes, the entire campaign takes place on the 2% of the ring that is broken and for the most part feels like you don't really go anywhere else (considering the entire campaign is just one biome). I much would've preferred if Infinite took a more linear/semi open-world approach. Levels would still be linear, but would be more open and expansive, taking place on different areas of zeta halo. Certain areas would have side quests that you could do, secret locations, etc, and when you complete campaign, you could backtrack/fast travel to those areas.
@TheBlackSpartan103
@TheBlackSpartan103 Год назад
@@justsomehalofan4386 fast traveling by Pelican to different parts of the ring would've been sweet
@ConfusedGeriatric
@ConfusedGeriatric Год назад
@@justsomehalofan4386 oh man that would’ve been banger, imagine like god of war ragnarok but for halo. With heaps of side areas and extra lore to find, cool forerunner weapon upgrades, etc
@ch33zyburrito36
@ch33zyburrito36 Год назад
Dude you really thought you were going to get something like that in a halo game? 😂
@crypticforerunner1389
@crypticforerunner1389 Год назад
wouldnt it be hilarious that during this time that the dev heads are one by one leaving theyre actually reacquiring bungie to co develop halo again . 😄 haha .... who knows it could be happenning lol
@jonbaxter2254
@jonbaxter2254 Год назад
I had another rewatch of Crowbcat's "Remember Halo" video yesterday... I don't think it's possible to have that experience again. Not just because of youth and nostalgia; but online systems, mobile phones and spoilers, streamers, terrible management and messaging and the fall of the industry. It'll never bee the same again. But those days were marvellous...
@Matanumi
@Matanumi Год назад
Its unreal to think we peaked with online gaming in the early 2010s
@r.e.z9428
@r.e.z9428 Год назад
Of course its possible again, just not with 343 apparently.
@squaeman_2644
@squaeman_2644 Год назад
Remember split screen? Guys I member...
@hakanflodin4555
@hakanflodin4555 Год назад
Absolute spot on analyis King
@c4sualcycl0ps48
@c4sualcycl0ps48 Год назад
Check out MarcoStyle’s video too… it highlights everything leading up to Infinite
@Jdawg1728
@Jdawg1728 Год назад
12:35 my man was struggling to maintain eye contact
@jfitz6517
@jfitz6517 Год назад
It feels like what’s carrying Halo right now is the community with 343 supporting as much as they can & as much as Microsoft is willing, not the other way around.
@schaefer76
@schaefer76 Год назад
I feel so bad for you, Halo fans. I don't know what the future holds, but most of us who like space games; we're here for you.
@vincetaliaferro2777
@vincetaliaferro2777 Год назад
I think they are shifting major resources to A.I. development and other things. This might be the new norm for a while.
@maniacalcoast2742
@maniacalcoast2742 Год назад
I gave up tbh, I straight up don’t even boot up mcc anymore
@robosing225
@robosing225 Год назад
@@maniacalcoast2742 i'm an og. yes from the beginning halo combat evolved, i know i'm ancient, and even i don't play halo anymore. it's too depressing seeing what 343 did with halo. why bungie left to make destiny i'll never know. but at least destiny is still being catered to in terms of expansions and xtra content.
@NoxTheZombie
@NoxTheZombie Год назад
It's ok I still have Warhammer. But Halo the one I grew up with my first love died after Reach.
@gravemind883
@gravemind883 Год назад
@@NoxTheZombie Oh don't worry GW will take care of that _real_ quick. They already are.
@MistahFox
@MistahFox Год назад
Before Halo Infinite came out, me and my friend realized how closely Halo games resembled the Star Wars movies in their quality and reception, and my friend asked if that meant Halo Infinite was going to be The Rise of Skywalker of Halo. I hoped not, but....
@stevenborg102
@stevenborg102 Год назад
Well Infinite and RoS were slightly better than H5/TLJ but that aint saying much so i guess so.
@ALG2691
@ALG2691 Год назад
*Rise of Palpatine.
@phanto6599
@phanto6599 Год назад
Its not even close to as bad as TROS. It's not amazing but TROS is atrocious on every level. At least Halo Infinite has some good things about it
@MistahFox
@MistahFox Год назад
@@phanto6599 I certainly agree, Reach is better than the prequels, but it had a similar perception to them. Infinite tried to backpedal all of 5's decisions like TROS does with TLJ.
@Perroden
@Perroden Год назад
@@stevenborg102 naw 5s story made more sense than infinites. Nothing in infinite makes since and it lacks content.
@MrPooPooJohn
@MrPooPooJohn Год назад
19:26 for a second I thought you were talking about within the company. Like going after executives. Juuust for a second 😂
@NobleRooster
@NobleRooster Год назад
When you started listing all the contracted work that was done on Infinite, something interesting clicked to me. The utility industry has a very similar trend, most of them do not have engineering departments anymore. Why? Because it's cheaper to hire out contracted work from a consultant than employee a full team of engineers. Maybe not front, but if you look at the long term (paying for benefits, pensions, etc.) it comes down to a numbers game.
@NobleRooster
@NobleRooster Год назад
Furthermore, one of your final statements, about how the breakdown happens at the top and trickles down, 100% agree. And I think my above statement stands true on the front. Microsoft is trying to make money off an established name, without doing justice to what built that establishment. I don't think that's necessarily a fault of 343i, but maybe those that are pushing the higher level in senior people there. This could also explain why so many left - their creative vision was stifled by the chase of a dollar sign.
@VerquiaZ
@VerquiaZ Год назад
When you said that Halo 5 came out 7 years ago, you hit me with a big old nostalgia slap
@LordVoid576
@LordVoid576 Год назад
Man it’s been to long for such a slow effete game
@coryjohnson2486
@coryjohnson2486 Год назад
That’s insane. I haven’t been a gamer for a few years now, but it feels like Halo 5 is still the latest Halo game and it came out just a couple years ago 😂. Time is flying!!!
@inventionscreator8875
@inventionscreator8875 Год назад
Bruh
@I_SuperHiro_I
@I_SuperHiro_I 7 месяцев назад
Halo 5 makes me many things. Nostalgic isn’t one of them.
@xonerex7501
@xonerex7501 7 месяцев назад
Halo 4 was the last Halo game I played, and even then I didn't even finish the campaign. 343 has done a HORRIBLE job
@wdsyalyn
@wdsyalyn Год назад
My best memories of gaming are in halo 2 and 3 and they'll never be able to ruin that. No matter how hard they try.
@abyss_waker1276
@abyss_waker1276 Год назад
You ready?
@fearless3073
@fearless3073 Год назад
I like the naive wishful thinking some people just can't seem to let go thinking it's all puppies, butterflies , and rainbows lmfao
@eitherneuron4223
@eitherneuron4223 Год назад
@@fearless3073 I don't think He is meaning that
@clarence2485
@clarence2485 Год назад
I don’t even think 343 is trying to kill Halo. With Bungie Halo was their baby. There was true passion for it all the way up to the top levels for every game. But when Bungie left Microsoft put together 343 for the sole purpose of continuing to make money off of Halo. And there are passionate people at 343 but in reality they were built from the ground up to turn a profit and that’s all Microsoft wants from them so of course they’re going go with the safest “what ever is trendy” approach. Hence Halo 4’s CoD like mechanics, Halo 5’s advanced movement, and Infinite’s “live-service”
@nicholasrusschen3743
@nicholasrusschen3743 Год назад
The tried with mcc lol
@rufousthefox9766
@rufousthefox9766 Год назад
I don't know how much more of this my heart can handle.
@fivestarman5130
@fivestarman5130 Год назад
I've been following the state of the franchise fairly closely and good lord the section of the video with the list of all of the Senior Developers and Executives at 343 Industries who have left in the last 4 years was incredibly depressing to watch
@jgamez106
@jgamez106 Год назад
Honestly wish Bungie and Microsoft could’ve worked things out (mainly Microsoft since they were the issue) so that Bungie could stay on and given us a halo equivalent to destiny
@bee-beargaming
@bee-beargaming Год назад
Tom French was one of my favorites at 343i, he was always enthusiastic & wanted to honor what came before & create something new. My heart goes out to those who lost their jobs too.
@JPx115
@JPx115 Год назад
One of the few game devs that actually looks like he enjoys and plays the game he's working on, and doesn't act like a snob just because he has a cool job and he grew up playing classic games, he clearly does understand modern video games, he is the man behing Halo 5's forge and also multiplayer, he's an absolute genius. Wherever he goes I'm sure he will create something awesome.
@douglasmorse2124
@douglasmorse2124 Год назад
The thing I loved most about the old halo games was I could unlock cool armor on my own, create my own game mode, and maps. It just really felt like a community. I remember a lot of multiplayer matches ending and the whole lobby joins a custom match after. Miss those days
@RedCommunistDragon
@RedCommunistDragon Год назад
Sadly that died with Halo 5😢
@MultiRokusho
@MultiRokusho Год назад
People used to talk in voice chat.
@lordcommandernox9197
@lordcommandernox9197 Год назад
Your parents gave you an Xbox? Did you own Ride to Hell: Retribution? You might not like it but that is the quintessential xbox game, hands down.
@emykus7717
@emykus7717 Год назад
"Noooo Halo has aaaalways been competitive, sweaty, MLG focused." 🤦
@russian_knight
@russian_knight Год назад
Now thr community is a toxic miserable cesspool of either blind hatred for or completely defending 343
@hkn9723
@hkn9723 Год назад
343i halo games all feel like separate games. The stories aren't directly connected to eachother because of the stuff they built up gets solved in the books and comics. Infinite while being the visually the best halo also had that problem. It's like missing an entire previous game and also kept the story unfinished.
@masterkenobi7x7
@masterkenobi7x7 Год назад
I worked in one of the three Microsoft Global HR shared service centers. It's not only the sheer number of contracting companies. Microsoft also has a policy for orange badges called "18x6", this consists of a contractor being able to work 18 months straight, and then they have to "rest" for 6 months. This is a global policy and affects all subsidiaries and products, from LinkedIn to office, azure, etc. That perhaps could explain a lot
@alexanderstordeur9434
@alexanderstordeur9434 Год назад
I think that line from pet seminary. "Some times, dead is better." best sumed up why some good franchises should not be over milked for profit.
@JamieC_94
@JamieC_94 Год назад
Agree. Halo had a very clear story that basically ended with Halo 3. It wasn't a narrative that can be constantly reinvented like Zelda, or a series with barely any narrative at all like Mario. It didn't really need anything more added to it. Refusing to let popular media tell their story and then conclude is the bane of so many franchises, and in the end stifles innovation because studios and producers would rather play it say and keep making content for a popular series than take a risk and commission something new. But I do kind of get that, from Xbox's perspective, they couldn't just let Halo die. It was one of their only flagship titles and their USP in the early years of Xbox. Maybe they felt that if there was no commitment to continuing the Halo series, the Xbox One wouldn't have anything to make it stand out against the PS4. But, if that was going to be the case, I don't get why they didn't go in the direction of prequels rather than sequels. Prequels offer essentially boundless possibilities to explore the Human-Covenant War in basically any direction. The sequels seemed doomed to never tell a story as interesting as the Human-Covenant War, and to eventually be forced to jump the shark to mix things up.
@aidanlorenz9697
@aidanlorenz9697 Год назад
Also who wouldn’t want more Halo multiplayer…. If it’s done right
@SoloDoloToker
@SoloDoloToker Год назад
Like the matrix... with that horrible cash grab resurrections
@TheActMan
@TheActMan Год назад
Hopefully I get more chances to use it 😂
@Muraqqi
@Muraqqi Год назад
Not just Halo, i think Gears also have the same problem. I think they like use the same pattern, character and enemy. Not respecting the legacy of the classic one. Halo and gears main title is telling a story from one of war perspective, from one of soldiers. I always wondering how about another soldier in different battlefield. Thats what Bungie try with Reach and ODST and it succed.
@SpinningSideKick9000
@SpinningSideKick9000 Год назад
"Sometimes, dead is better" summarized it pretty well. I'll always have the memories of the Bungie days
@jethrodark2372
@jethrodark2372 Год назад
Halo is never dead just play Halo 1-3, i only consider them canon.
@50cal80
@50cal80 Год назад
@@jethrodark2372 I feel like reach deserves it’s spot in there
@mrcaboosevg6089
@mrcaboosevg6089 Год назад
@@jethrodark2372 There's plenty of good times to be had playing other Halo games that aren't just the original trilogy
@jethrodark2372
@jethrodark2372 Год назад
Srry guys...when i said i only consider Halo 1-3 story canon i meant its lore, which only changed when 343 took over with Halo 4 ect. Halo ODST and Reach are not included in that and are good games, but Reach's prequel stort was friged up intentionally by Bungie as a big middle finger to Microsoft because they didnt want to make it in the first place but Microsoft forced them so they fuked its story lol(still goods games tho and i also replay ODST and Reach). Again srry i forgot to include them. Now Halo Wars i dont consider canon either tho they have better stories than what 343 did(and for those don't know 343 didn't make Halo Wars neither did Bungie).
@hachelyd_i3232
@hachelyd_i3232 Год назад
@@jethrodark2372 Yeah Halo Reach’s story conflicted with Fall of Reach, unfortunately.
@justanotherperson7774
@justanotherperson7774 Год назад
20:20 technically speaking you can play splitscreen mainly in multiplayer depending on which version of the Xboxone you have. Unfortunately there's no split-screen co-op for the campaign which is just as depressing to know that we will probably will never get campaign dlc.
@murkadelic422
@murkadelic422 Год назад
yo, I just wanna say, I love the small edits throughout the video. That "LIAR" from Anakin fuckin' floored me lmao
@stevenbaker153
@stevenbaker153 Год назад
This is what happens when you have accountants running creative. They try to fit everything in a box but this isn't possible when it comes to creative endeavours
@aldagosto1413
@aldagosto1413 Год назад
343 had like 6 years to make infinite, that's a lot of creative time for your game
@Taco486
@Taco486 Год назад
Do you know what an accountant is?
@charlesmartiniii1405
@charlesmartiniii1405 Год назад
it would be financial advisors and shareholders, but I agree with you besides that.
@aldagosto1413
@aldagosto1413 Год назад
@@Taco486 more then you do
@JMasterXP
@JMasterXP Год назад
@@aldagosto1413 probably spent 5 years trying to fix halo 5’s mistakes in pre production and building there broken ass engine
@dayarnnaqshband8777
@dayarnnaqshband8777 Год назад
As someone that fell in love with Gaming because of Halo and bought my own console to specifically play Halo after playing it for countless hours at my mate's houses.. The current state of Halo breaks my heart icl
@xspike83able
@xspike83able Год назад
Try Destiny
@lShadow426l
@lShadow426l Год назад
@@xspike83able just don't look into Y1 D1 and Y1 D2 because both had the same problems and almost ended Bungie
@bobbythomas6520
@bobbythomas6520 Год назад
Halo campaign is fire
@Rob165x
@Rob165x Год назад
I had a PS5 and I bought an XBSX just for halo (gamepass helped tho lol), but halo pushed me to do it.
@bobbythomas6520
@bobbythomas6520 Год назад
@@Rob165x I mean besides god of war and Spider-Man xbox> and I don’t play either I’m on PC
@vishaalmalolan4428
@vishaalmalolan4428 Год назад
I don't get why Microsoft wouldn't try a different studio for halo and let 343 work on a smaller project of their own it is clear they can't handle a project of this scale
@randybutternubs4647
@randybutternubs4647 Год назад
I keep imagining 343 begging Microsoft to give them one more chance. Then Microsoft saying "Ok, because I like you, I'll give you another chance."
@anthonyamos9654
@anthonyamos9654 Год назад
They need to focus on campaign and forge as the main staples. Then build from there on the rest of the content.
@cameronward9443
@cameronward9443 Год назад
The fact that Halo infinite was an open world game that could EASILY have incorporated coop and an almost free canvas to pump out content on top of and they didn't take advantage of that is astounding. I would love to be a fly in the wall on those board room meetings where those idiots through out those ideas....
@austinbauman3818
@austinbauman3818 Год назад
I work as a contractor for Microsoft and have been effected by their hiring freeze ( I don't work with the gaming side of things) and yeah their relationship with contractors leads to some crappy decisions. I have been in company wide meetings where the Microsoft managers tell us things are going great and we are hitting all of our targets, only for a week later those same managers come back and tell us we are all losing our jobs and a different company was taking our contract and we were to teach the new company how to replace us. Guess how good their training was...
@lelouchvibritannia4028
@lelouchvibritannia4028 Год назад
Find yourself a new job for a different company. Anyone who treats you that poorly doesn't deserve you.
@strikeforce1500
@strikeforce1500 Год назад
Ngl, that is what most companies tell managers to do. Is to avoid people jumping ship early, so the business can complete as many pending deals as possible, then ditch everyone. That is why I don't trust business' administration, they can, straightforward lie to you, consequence free.
@boribori609
@boribori609 Год назад
Suuuuuure you do, just by looking at your channel and seeing who you are subscribed to anyone can tell you're not even an adult yet🤣🤣🤦‍♂️
@alaskanyeti907
@alaskanyeti907 Год назад
Management has been killer across the industry. I feel that management focusing solely in profits is what's hurting them, as chasing the dollar signs is hurting the creative process/making not a fun game/product. Whereas if they focused on making a good, fun, playable product then the profits will follow.
@OscarPerez-og7kt
@OscarPerez-og7kt Год назад
At this point I would like to see other studios take a crack at the gameplay loop. Perhaps a frostbite-realistic environment approach could give a unique sandbox. I’m thinking battlefront but with banished and unsc factions. Could give them an opportunity to flesh out weapons and vehicles to accommodate large maps and modes. Anyways this is what I wanted after warzone and invasion but one can dream
@sgt.marcuspstacker2287
@sgt.marcuspstacker2287 Год назад
And that's where it ends sadly all the awesomeness in the world right at our fingertips and only 343s greed standing between it!
@CloudyNebula
@CloudyNebula Год назад
Once again, the Act Man being the most honest and upfront Halo youtuber regarding 343 and its state. Thanks for these videos, as painful as they are.
@cosmictreason2242
@cosmictreason2242 Год назад
Aozolai bruh
@TheHammerofDissidence
@TheHammerofDissidence Год назад
No, that would be Andy - Insp. Magnum. He is the only person I've come across who actually gets it.
@knightmare5097
@knightmare5097 Год назад
@@TheHammerofDissidence What does Act Man not get? Everything he talks about comes from verified sources
@illeyez505
@illeyez505 Год назад
@@knightmare5097 halo died when infinite launched with forced crossplay and lack of content. Why would console players want to play with pc players in the first place? Halo isn't fortnite or cod.
@knightmare5097
@knightmare5097 Год назад
@@illeyez505 Because then more players get to play together? And that was just two reasons Infinite failed, which AM mentioned in previous vids
@anthonypittman6443
@anthonypittman6443 Год назад
What makes this downfall the even more heartbreaking is the fact of how close they were to making a great game, the gameplay felt great, and pvp was fun the hard part was finished, and at the FUCKING finish line they fumbled it, it was THIS close man.
@AntiJewluminatiDwarf
@AntiJewluminatiDwarf Год назад
Stop perpetuating this along with the "solid CORE game/play"..... it amounts to nothing the game managed to....get the controls right.....and nothing else....it wasn't almost good and it didn't have potential it was and always will be a PoS. All I see done with forge is people playing anything BUT HALO and the irony is lost on everyone.....rofl
@thel8815
@thel8815 Год назад
It was never close. No forge, no splitscreen, broken custom games, broken theatre, desync, btb that wasn't working for months, a mediocre campaign with yet another new storyline. After 6 years they made a couple maps and a mediocre campaign, wow dude it was so close...
@anthonypittman6443
@anthonypittman6443 Год назад
@@thel8815 well with games coming out barely playable nowadays it at least functioned, I never said it wasn’t still shit ESPECIALLY compared to reach which infinite can’t even get close toZ.
@thel8815
@thel8815 Год назад
@@anthonypittman6443 It didn't tho. Btb was unplayable, customs too, theatre was broken. And even if it was, if you only have 5 playlists or so it doesn't matter much when it's playable imo.
@anthonypittman6443
@anthonypittman6443 Год назад
@@thel8815 no no you got a good point, I nearly forgot the infinite loading screens for BTB, it’s sad that we are in this state of gaming, at least we still got indie devs and armored core down the line to breathe some well deserved quality back.
@CharlemagneGuy127
@CharlemagneGuy127 8 месяцев назад
Given how well ID did at reviving DOOM that embodied everything great about old school shooters while giving it modern day quality of life improvements and a facelift, I would love to see them tackle the next Halo.
@allaltitudeproductions454
@allaltitudeproductions454 Год назад
i think the whole "advertise and then years of silence" is a business strategy to not stem too much hype, or let hype die down incase the game doesnt perform aswell as the business wanted, or as well as the customer was expecting, i mean we know what happened to no mans sky
@CargoShorts7
@CargoShorts7 Год назад
I think another core issue with 343 is that they’ve literally never accurately identified their audience. Time and time again they targeted and pursued the wrong audience when really they just needed to tend to the longtime, dedicated Halo fans who love the franchise for community and casual fun. 343 has never realized this key aspect imo
@Kikker861
@Kikker861 Год назад
They always turn to the fans last, because they know the fans will eat anything. If 343 made a big oopsie on timing the deadline, you best believe this release "is for the fans." Fuck 343 and all that it stands for.
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite Год назад
Halo 4: “let’s go after CoD fans.” Halo 5: “Titanfall will be the future of Gaming!” Halo Infinite: “Maybe we could try to go after Halo fans?”
@JacobTyler1776
@JacobTyler1776 Год назад
The concept of accurately identifying and catering to the actual fanbase of an IP seems to be all but lost to most modern executives. It's mind-boggling.
@DeltaDanner
@DeltaDanner Год назад
@@JacobTyler1776entertainment giants want to broaden the audience because obviously more fans means more money. What they end up doing is alienating their loyal fans and selling a product that no audience is going to get hooked on. Instead of pulling in both Halo fans and COD fans they just lost most of the Halo fans.
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite Год назад
@@DeltaDanner I think the main thing they fail to account for is the idea that one consumer can actually desire two different products. I used to play both Halo and CoD for different reasons. Halo was popular because it was not like other shooters. In trying to make Halo play more like CoD, they don’t pull people from CoD to Halo, they just make Halo redundant.
@Just_a_commenter
@Just_a_commenter Год назад
I want to believe the franchise can recover... I want halo fans to have a good time :c
@phurion.
@phurion. Год назад
that's called cope
@thatguysixx
@thatguysixx Год назад
The Franchise is dead, and Microsoft and 343 are to blame. It’s been a fun run
@Dan_Kanerva
@Dan_Kanerva Год назад
this is what you all get for choosing FPS games on a damn console... At least we the Half Life bros will forever have games that weren't tainted by mor0n writters. Even if it means be left on the biggest cliffhanger of all time
@ia19753
@ia19753 Год назад
That's called a cope, enough with that false hope mentality. You're the problem if you keep believing that the franchise could recover and get better. News flash, it won't as long as 343 is in charge. Halo is dead. Let it rest.
@benjitheman
@benjitheman Год назад
I played the multiplayer just the other day and it wasn't letting me invite ANY of my friends, even though 4 of them were online. Come on 343...
@globalpotaoto6681
@globalpotaoto6681 Год назад
I like to point out that 343 genuinely did have a lot of talent at the studio it sucks to see such talent so poorly mishandled Microsoft after the activision acquisition ( if it even goes through) they need to stop and focus on games it’s getting ridiculous how many good series they have and all of them never get to see the light of day until 10 years later
@Tyler-dq6mu
@Tyler-dq6mu Год назад
The act man you should try Dead space remaster remake I mean you talked about the classic ones so much you should go ahead and try the the remastered version and it's two endings
@mimik6775
@mimik6775 Год назад
These are truly the dark times. I don't think the franchise has ever been in worse than it is right now.
@DarthVaderTheSithLord
@DarthVaderTheSithLord Год назад
And I used to think the Halo drought post-Halo 5 was as bad as it could get.
@CRIMSON-FLAME1
@CRIMSON-FLAME1 Год назад
@Darth Vader so did I but at this current moment it looks like it might be worse this time around. I will never lose hope for halo but I won't stay so naive that I think that it will get better from here. I'm already at the point where I don't think halo will ever return to how good it used to be. I grew up with halo so in a way it's like watching one of your heroes just slowly die.
@thetode
@thetode Год назад
Crazy how Bonnie Ross was allowed to retire just as all of this shit goes down.
@Ghost_Command04
@Ghost_Command04 Год назад
And it's unfortunate to say that about any franchise, but it just feels like that's all franchises at this point for at least the past 3 years, and it's not getting any better yet. You'd think when the pilot realizes the plane is nosediving they would at least try to pull up out of survival instinct
@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re
@JAIMEGARCIA-gw9re Год назад
Yes. The problem that I see is that Microsoft handed over the reins to a development company who disliked the original Halo games. Therefore, they couldn't give a shit about keeping true to the vision of Halo. It's apparent with Halo 4 and 5. Even Halo Infinite.
@jetsetatrophy67
@jetsetatrophy67 Год назад
"Let's cut our losses and start over" and "we need a new batch of contractors" are basically the same mentality deployed at the end of each game
@ValentinoMarino11
@ValentinoMarino11 Год назад
They don’t bother learning from their past games, they literally just wipe the slate clean and build from the ground up.
@DEVILTAZ35
@DEVILTAZ35 Год назад
I am having tons of fun with Shadow Warrior 3 on Gamepass on Series X anyway. a funny game that is actually a riot to play.
@mopheaded728
@mopheaded728 10 месяцев назад
You should watch the count of monte cristo (2002), it hits a similar spot.
@SmolJordan
@SmolJordan Год назад
Hey just wanna throw this out there, I worked at Experis and was on Infinite for a few years up until just after it released. Microsoft outsources a lot of testing from Experis for a whole bunch of titles, not just Halo, so seeing that in the credits of MS games is very typical. QA is always doing the best we can, but at a certain point there isn't much we can do and it comes down to developers not having the bandwidth to actually take care of every problem QA is aware of and reporting.
@Monolithinteal
@Monolithinteal Год назад
Halo 1-3 were simple and what made it even better back then which I have never ever seen since was how Bungie engaged with the community, weekly updates, playlist updates, holiday events. All of that was key
@c4sualcycl0ps48
@c4sualcycl0ps48 Год назад
Bungie still engages with its community on a semi-regular basis.
@Funewter
@Funewter Год назад
Destiny 2's community outreach from them is possibly the CLOSEST we could get to the old days
@Lilfootcat
@Lilfootcat Год назад
Yeah I don’t think halo was ever this extraordinary ground breaking game lol, it was just a good game during the glory days of gaming. back in early Xbox live there really wasn’t that much, you were either playing cod 4, halo 3 or gears of war. The series has run its course imo. Hearing the name master chief doesn’t hold the same weight to the kids today as it did back in 2007 when I was a kid. The biggest audience of gaming doesn’t care about halo
@juanjox2006
@juanjox2006 Год назад
@@Funewter i mean ... a TWAB every week its better than silence for almost 5 years
@lukepoe1140
@lukepoe1140 Год назад
All 343i had to do was let Bungie's Halo hold its own against their content. Instead of rehashing Covenant vs. UNSC, the Master Chief could have fought against the Prometheans, San'Shyuum, and new parasite species. Halo without a flood-like enemy isn't Halo. It's just not. Although the Prometheans were new and interesting, 343i made them so boring and irritable to fight against.
@samuelcampas6020
@samuelcampas6020 Год назад
Chrono Trigger music at 1:02 😍😍😍
@kiyoku_exe
@kiyoku_exe Год назад
yes, community-made content via Forge and other tools are spicing up Halo Infinite and MCC as we speak and will surely keep the fanbase alive even if 343 can't provide content
@-Chunky-
@-Chunky- Год назад
They could do so much stuff with this franchise. Movies about the big wars (Human/Forerunner, Forerunner/Flood), side games about Banished characters or maybe the Swords of Sangheilios, a TV series that isn’t a weird fanfic, but nah
@andrewmeyer3599
@andrewmeyer3599 Год назад
Please no more television shows or movies. They already proved they can't get anything fucking right with Halo
@Wywern291
@Wywern291 Год назад
And just like Warhammer 40k like a decade ago, they release a completely putrid movie or game, think that games and action movies normally sell, so therefore the problem is the IP, and they axe the whole thing. We will not get a better halo show or movie in a long time, if ever.
@hiro_cuhh5672
@hiro_cuhh5672 Год назад
It hurts so much to be a halo fan rn. Halo is the reason why I got into gaming in the first place and the fact that it’s sunk this low is just painful. I always had hope that halo would return in some way with a big comeback and give players a game that we would enjoy but were it so easy.😔
@Helperbot-2000
@Helperbot-2000 Год назад
Think positively! You COULD have been a fallout fan, watching bethesda out bid troika for the ip and proceed to kill and then kick the corpse of fallout, letting obsidian revive the series before killing it a second time and then burning it
@Azure9577
@Azure9577 Год назад
@@Helperbot-2000 the difference between the two fanbases is that Bethesda doesn't have a unique game If you are a fallout/Skyrim fan then other companies RPGs, Crpgs are far better then Bethesda RPGs Halo is unique, there's nothing else like it
@jakewheeler6014
@jakewheeler6014 Год назад
@@Helperbot-2000 Nah fallout 3 is great.
@Helperbot-2000
@Helperbot-2000 Год назад
@@Azure9577 oh im not talking about the bethesda community, im talking about the fallout community, the ones of us who like the 3 actually good games in the series; fallout 1, fallout 2, fallout new vegas, the true third game.
@Helperbot-2000
@Helperbot-2000 Год назад
@@jakewheeler6014 if by great you mean completely and utterly garbage, then indeed. it is great
@Lufade
@Lufade 8 месяцев назад
I work for a company where it seems like our corporate leadership is constantly dropping the ball. I've been in an office position for 4.5 years now and the amount of incompetence I've seen in my own company and those we work with is nothing short of astounding. I worked on factory floors for 13 years before surprising myself by landing an office position at the company I worked the floor for. I suffered from imposter syndrome for so long, wondering if I was truly capable enough for such a role. I can confidently say now that that fear is gone. I am paid significantly less than people significantly less effective. And I bring this up because I see so clearly now how much ineptitude there is in these leadership roles. Honestly it's a bit frightening. So many people are paid such high wages to fumble their way through and fuck things up for those that are paid less and actually doing the work that matters. It's everywhere.
@mniakan754
@mniakan754 Год назад
Even as a sony fan it's sad to see something like this happen to one of the greatest and most iconic shooters, hope better days are ahead for everyone
@nescaudrummer
@nescaudrummer Год назад
Well boys, even though things look dire, I still feel gratitude for Halo MCC. No matter what happens with Halo in the future, I will be playing H3 customs or social every week. Never stopped playing Halo since 2007.
@Peron1-MC
@Peron1-MC Год назад
yeah they shot themselves in the foot by making MCC. its easily the best way to play halo games. HALO CE with a bunch of skulls like sputnik and catch and grunt funeral is so much fun. skulls never existed on CE but they added them and its fantastic :)
@-Monad-
@-Monad- Год назад
H3 customs is the bomb! Fat Kid all day
@megaman37456
@megaman37456 Год назад
@@Peron1-MC To be fair MCC customs and MM can only last for so long before the playerbase craves something new. It's a great way to get the community to be patient for sure but it's not an indefinite solution long term.
@TheDarkLordGino69
@TheDarkLordGino69 Год назад
@@megaman37456 True but if ppl can still play a game from 2001 I'm sure they'll have no problem sticking with it if there's no hope for infinite.
@michealmurphy8985
@michealmurphy8985 Год назад
They runied that aswell sure 343 were just trash
@thatoneinasuit6404
@thatoneinasuit6404 Год назад
I think the damage has been done and it's now a franchise running on dwindling nostalgia factor, it's a shame to see it happen but if it somehow gets flipped around I would be seriously shocked
@ajgumpper
@ajgumpper Год назад
Me too bro.. I'd be utterly surprised. But we know that won't happen. I'm actually kind of happy that won't happen though, 'cause I just want Halo to be over. Let it rest in peace ffs
@Dawntana
@Dawntana Год назад
Well actually. Since theyve released forge and custom games browser, as well as fixed the ranked system and desync quite a bit… the games much much better. Its almost on track to be as good as the classic halo we love.
@MrVidman14
@MrVidman14 11 месяцев назад
Too little too late
@ThatFletcherGuy.
@ThatFletcherGuy. Год назад
The thing that hurts the most is all the abandoned story threads they gave up on and then off screen killing off characters. Remember in halo 4 when master chief’s evolution was accelerated by the librarian?? Nothing since 😢
@josiahteller7556
@josiahteller7556 Год назад
"You're on your own Noble, Staten out."
@TheActMan
@TheActMan Год назад
@mikemacmillan5437
@mikemacmillan5437 Год назад
Remember when they listened to criticism about how the needler sounded and fixed it? Gave me so much hope for the game man.
@rayquaza1245
@rayquaza1245 Год назад
Looking back it makes no sense why they listened to that in particular, considering they disregarded everything else.
@ConfusedGeriatric
@ConfusedGeriatric Год назад
@@rayquaza1245 easy and cheap way to win some PR while doing nothing that requires creativity or hard work
@yureiunbound8441
@yureiunbound8441 Год назад
Them fixing a gun audio gave you hope? Jeez you must have been injecting that copium straight to your veins
@mikemacmillan5437
@mikemacmillan5437 Год назад
@@yureiunbound8441 fair enough lol, hindsight is 20/20. After the brute meme came out and they decided to pushback the release my initial impressions were hopeful. The needler was obviously a minor change but responding to fan feedback persuaded me to “believe” like that halo 3 ad back in the day lmfao
@Barrobroadcastmaster
@Barrobroadcastmaster Год назад
That comment that said "This is bad news disguised as good news" was pretty on point. Like the Costa Concordia when the ship was sinking and the intercom told people things were fine.
@xtremefurrycat
@xtremefurrycat Год назад
There is a lot of halo that had some great stuff in them they can round up and put all together in one pot to make an amazing game. But I also know the issues you can have working with so many different teams to pull something together. Everyone has their input but when you try to make it work it just back fires. Remember the time a bunch of devs hung out in a basement to make a game and it blew up in popularity? It's just far better to have a core group than a mixed bag of devs, not saying contracting is wrong just it adds more too many hands in the cookie jar situation.
@MrDiddlesGaming
@MrDiddlesGaming Год назад
"Where is Infection?" I couldn't help but laugh when that question was brought up. The undeniable truth is making a flagship title successful can be very challenging, and it seemed like there were too many uncooked eggs in the basket. Microsoft's incompetent leadership has led 343 and the community to struggle
@sterlingburton5107
@sterlingburton5107 Год назад
"Uncooked eggs"? lol 343 doesn't even have the basket. they're just chasing the hen around the field.
@sosososniperss4486
@sosososniperss4486 Год назад
@@sterlingburton5107 Microsoft watches the barn collapse🗿
@jimbothegymbro7086
@jimbothegymbro7086 Год назад
I feel bad for 343 because Microsofts management is giving them a bad wrap
@JacobTyler1776
@JacobTyler1776 Год назад
That apparently Undead Labs was involved in the project on some level and yet still no infection mode is kind of comical.
@H4ymaker
@H4ymaker Год назад
Infection and grifball will make me happy for 12 months at least. I'd stfu
@dinkleberg7731
@dinkleberg7731 Год назад
Even though it’s usually because of something bad, I love it when the actman talks about Halo
@elderweeb1834
@elderweeb1834 Год назад
same!
@duran4689
@duran4689 Год назад
That odst rain music in the background hit different
@defaultname7685
@defaultname7685 Год назад
I’m convinced that 343 was some kind of weird money laundering front or something. Nothing else makes sense why they were allowed to take forever (TWELVE YEARS) to make three mid games while running Microsoft’s only flagship IP into the ground
@lastremain7867
@lastremain7867 Год назад
It's just crazy that the people who grow up with Halo might have to be in their forties if Halo actually becomes good again.
@bobbyhillthuglife
@bobbyhillthuglife Год назад
I'm 36, and at this rate I will be in my 40s by the time infinite hits season 3
@riptmangleshank4286
@riptmangleshank4286 Год назад
too late
@yyyhhh8481
@yyyhhh8481 Год назад
all the halo dads are playing dadstiny 2
@wolfNflux
@wolfNflux Год назад
@@yyyhhh8481 eww gross. Destiny sucks haha. Dad here and 31. Been playing since halo 2.
@bunjier4041
@bunjier4041 Год назад
The glory days are long over, it's just that it's become increasingly clear to everyone that they won't be returning. At least MCC is really good now, that's all I would play in terms of Halo anymore.
@dawesome_sauce
@dawesome_sauce Год назад
As sad a state as the Halo franchise is in, it's still refreshing to have your videos so thoroughly breaking things down, Act Man. Don't ever stop doing what you're doing.
@revolverswitch
@revolverswitch Год назад
Meanwhile mcc is having a modding Renaissance no one in the community couldn't even dreamed of having.
@gregorymirabella1423
@gregorymirabella1423 Год назад
@@revolverswitch what kind of mods?
@revolverswitch
@revolverswitch Год назад
@@gregorymirabella1423 there all kinds of campaign mods for each mcc game that re-imagines the sandbox and offers new features like weapons and even AI behavior. Another incredible mod project is someone recreating the entirety of CE with Halo 3's engine.
@G42Shady
@G42Shady Год назад
Waking up and seeeing new act man video is my fav type of morning
@southpark159753
@southpark159753 Год назад
apparently 343i didn't learn from outsourcing MCC development
@Moose_97
@Moose_97 Год назад
Dual wielding weapons should have made a comeback, its one of the things that made the older games fun
@alexanderrobins7497
@alexanderrobins7497 Год назад
Dual wielding was generally inefficient given the garbage weapons, but I still loved doing it anyway because I can.
@Casey5291
@Casey5291 Год назад
@@alexanderrobins7497 spoken like someone who has never used the Spiker/SMG combo.
@kestaskuliukas5296
@kestaskuliukas5296 Год назад
Thank god infinite did a reset and didnt listen to you plebs..
@moosemusicofficial
@moosemusicofficial Год назад
@@kestaskuliukas5296 Yeah, thank God the franchise died.
@manz7860
@manz7860 Год назад
​@@Casey5291 i remember absolutely wrecking kids with the dual magnums. Even magnum plasma pistol was nice.
@rangledangle3371
@rangledangle3371 Год назад
A lot of times Contractors are working in the same building, eating the same food, working on the same work. Contractors are not inherently worse, but this dynamic creates workers who are doing the same amount of work at the same degree of difficulty for a quarter of the pay (and they know it) it creates a disgruntled, jaded workforce.
@HirineN
@HirineN Год назад
It's about the lack of a vision for the franchise that's why they are "worse" not that they are inherently worse coders/devs. There's also what you said about the payment...
@AmericanZergling
@AmericanZergling Год назад
Individual contractors, yes, but a lot of the 'team' seemed to be outsourced studios, which does create a communication problem. WC3 Reforged is an example of this, where so many assets of that game were not made by Blizzard themselves, which makes a lot of the inconsistent art direction make sense.
@deriznohappehquite
@deriznohappehquite Год назад
The problem comes when you’re working with a proprietary toolkit on a 6 year project and get fired automatically after 18 months.
@QueekHeadtaker
@QueekHeadtaker Год назад
They also have no control over the creative direction of the product because they aren't really part of the team, just a compilation of under-paid mercenaries creating a nonsensical hodge-podge game before they move on to the next gig.
@rangledangle3371
@rangledangle3371 Год назад
@@QueekHeadtaker I think there’s a misunderstanding of what contractors are. There are two types. Vendors and Contingents. A lot of times, Vendors can work at a company for years alongside normal Employees. They’re just underpaid and easy to fire. The other kind are short term and on time limits. Whether or not they’re local is another story, but those details usually don’t surface to the media. The reality is it’s like 60/40 split, with vendors at 60. When media talks about them they’re just “contractors” though. All the same, it’s a bad dynamic for success either way.
@WolfsbaneXI
@WolfsbaneXI Год назад
This isn't the first time they abruptly stopped development of a storyline. Y'all remember Spartan Ops in Halo 4? It really said "Season 1" at the top like they were going to have multiple seasons
@zaneheaston8254
@zaneheaston8254 Год назад
A few days after this video was posted, 343 announced they would stop using their Slipspace game engine & instead start from scratch on the Unreal Engine Depression intensifies
@Forkinthemud
@Forkinthemud Год назад
I was a kid in highschool when Liquid Development was working on halo 4's Armor, I got a sneak peak into the design change and was appalled. Not their fault of course but seeing you mention them brought back that memory.
@Wofulrumble4893
@Wofulrumble4893 Год назад
Some of the designs were really neat, but too much changed at once
@thataintfalco7106
@thataintfalco7106 Год назад
It always felt like they were using Joe as a shield to deliver bad news, kind of glad that everyone is sensible enough to know it’s all 343’s management’s fault
@gtrblackhawk
@gtrblackhawk Год назад
100% they brought him in only to be a pin cushion. If it weren’t just for his face delivering the news the disgust with 343i would be actually where it should be but because he was around he took some of the heat off of them.
@bobbyhillthuglife
@bobbyhillthuglife Год назад
343 in general is incompetent. They did not grow organically because they were good at their jobs, they were built up by MS and handed the Halo franchise. I don't want to come across as attacking the little guy here, but goddamn it seems like there is a lot of incompetence over there, at all levels. They just don't produce a lot of work. The productivity per person at 343 is absolutely cataclysmic. This is what happens when you try to just spend a bunch of money and create a AAA studio out of whole cloth, rather than working with Devs that have earned their success.
@bigt4135
@bigt4135 Год назад
It’s top management at Xbox. They need to go.
@ValentinoMarino11
@ValentinoMarino11 Год назад
@@bigt4135 I think the whole gaming industry needs some kind of factory reset.
@user-vp5xf6fm5p
@user-vp5xf6fm5p Год назад
​@Bigt413 nah bro, it was the 343 leaders. Have you not heard some of the shit these guys wanted to do to Halo? Shocker, look how many studio heads have either jumped ship or been fired. Kiki wolfkill the bitch in charge of the halo show got fired today as well.
@shawnjackson3764
@shawnjackson3764 Год назад
Halo needs to be a universe with different games and gameplays in it: Halo, the arena FPS that doesn't need to be super big anymore, the BF/CoD arcade FPS, the Dishonored type of immersive sim solo game, etc... All connected aesthetically and narratively, but with different gameplays.
@jakekm1767
@jakekm1767 Год назад
been worried about the future of the halo franchise since 2014, and I will be everytime I see 343 industries develop another halo game.
@morph611
@morph611 Год назад
Actually contracting your QA team is not a bad idea because they can give you less biased feedback. The problem is then having the processes in place to follow up on that feedback.
@jffry890
@jffry890 Год назад
The problem with Cyperpunk's QA is the cheap contracting firm they hired focused more on quantity of bugs found rather than the severity of bugs found. They wanted their testers to hit a quota so they searched for easily-found, easily-fixable bugs instead of actual game-breaking shit to the huge annoyance of CDPR's development team.
@kopperhed4472
@kopperhed4472 Год назад
That 'Master Chief lost in space' ending looks like it should have been the real end every year.
@biolinkstudios
@biolinkstudios Год назад
na halo 4 story was on point and was leading to something amazing that got lost in halo 5
@DeltaDanner
@DeltaDanner Год назад
@@biolinkstudioshumans are forerunners
@ianhoolihan2396
@ianhoolihan2396 Год назад
Halo 4 5 and infinite is all just master chief's fever dream in cryo sleep
@biolinkstudios
@biolinkstudios Год назад
@Ian Hoolihan feels like that everything is all over the place but I would say its fever dream after 4, cortana dying probably put him in some mental break down
@fulcrum6760
@fulcrum6760 Год назад
@@ianhoolihan2396 Then Chief must have a really weird imagination and has psychic powers if he knows about The Banished who have existed in the war.
@Jimmy_Maxwell
@Jimmy_Maxwell Год назад
Bloody well said & put together mate.
@scorchone2310
@scorchone2310 Год назад
The fact the art team got hit and not who ever programmed the sound for multiplayer is a crime against god. This game has been out over a year and I still cannot hear a rocket launcher being fired by an enemy two feet behind me in a ranked game mode that is supposed to be the platform for an "esport"
@AtomicDre
@AtomicDre Год назад
Its crazy to hear the amount of people that left and how long they were with the company. Sounds like the foundation gave way and this skyscraper doesn't have the support to stand straight for much longer without it.
@TeamGreenBurrito
@TeamGreenBurrito Год назад
We truly live in a dark age of entertainment, which is a reflection of society as a whole being very sick at the moment. I’ve learned to be grateful for as much as you can in life; so I will say, that I was lucky to grow up during the best time in video game history. The hype around Halo 3 can never be topped, and you simply had to be there to understand why.
@MatiasFeliciano1
@MatiasFeliciano1 Год назад
Beautiful words
@TheJackmilla
@TheJackmilla Год назад
Id say that's also why survival horror and the horror genre as a whole keeps itself alive and healthy. When times are dark, horror media becomes an art form
@TheHammerofDissidence
@TheHammerofDissidence Год назад
Unbridled decadence (such as living in the golden age of video games) is more indicative of a sick society than simply the quality of entertainment.
@riggidynail7228
@riggidynail7228 Год назад
Dark age for halo
@lulhighman3428
@lulhighman3428 Год назад
@@TheHammerofDissidence A time where master craftsmen are able to perfect their art is a time that I’m grateful to have lived in, and a sickness I wouldn’t mind society catching again
@grudgin1877
@grudgin1877 Год назад
HOW to prevent crashes mid-match. Hard RESET the game and refresh it before each match. This works 99% of the time 👍. I only crashed once in the past 3 days of doing this, thats pretty good… 😢 but still its annoying having to do this.
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