Is This 💰Cheap Turbine💰 Really 400 Watts? Best Value for 2020? 

Why 2 volt?

It is physically impossible for a turbine of that tiny diameter to make 200 Watts in a 10 MPH wind as any wind turbine person can tell you. There is very little power in a 10 MPH wind. :)

@@EyeAmAwakeEyeAmAware 6 x 2 volt = 12 volt array deep cycle batteries like those found in fork lifts and the like if one 2 volt cell goes down or goes bad it is easily replaced rather then the whole array.

4:54 You didn't just put the unprotected wires through an unprotected freshly drilled hole in a metal pipe, did you? Shocking.

@@EyeAmAwakeEyeAmAware rrr

You might need that plane ticket if your wife reads this comment.😉

This made my day.

Better to have the wind blow the blades off at you than to have the wife throw the blades at you. So you still had a win situation, sort of. And if the wife kills you before you have to pay child support that's technically a win also. Mostly.

I mounted my wind turbine to my wifes forehead. I never run out of power for my lights but she does suck out all of my energy

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thanks for watching

And also the brake?

What's the price I need one

@@willysigei4414 0

I was about to say, that looks like Calgary.

.223 for those Coyotes too. One by one.

@@thonatim5321 I had the same thoughts

Glad you enjoyed it!

cool. thanks!

That is true and very cool! Well warm! Just for the heck of it I ran a small coil of plastic tubing in a pile of pig manure I collected from my neighbors pigs here in the Peruvian Andes...the water was scalding! PS. This is one of the very few things that they do not use. People with one or two chanchos they feed with potato peels, corn husks and various kitchen scraps. After boiling potatoes or pasta they feed the pigs with carbohydrate filled cooking water,!! That is thrift. Where do we send that water? Just sayin'

Yes and methane from composting and manure can be trapped inside polyurethane bladder burned off

My grass clippings if left in the grass catcher bag gets very hot. Never thought of using it for energy source

Easy upgrade path too... Convert to active by better caulking and a match 😂

Keep an eye on the price, they have been fluctuating quite a bit lately. This one at 249 is a great deal. If it's around 400, you would have lots of options.

@@live.life.simple. Price shmice. Performance and function is what you should consider. Why pay for cheap shit which doesn't do the job you want. Design properly for your heeds instead of saving money.

Good to know! Thanks

@Berry Swan - Where do live? What is the average wind speed?

I used an ametek motor on a garden windmill until my neighbors tree tore it down. What style is yours?

Oh man. I would not that anywhere near me or anything that has any value. IF it could do that it would be a scary sight. Still a good windmill for the money though.

combine solar and a good turbine. they work at night and on bad weather days

Thanks for the info!

Great point! I never even thought about that, but my charge controller only shows the amps as they are drawn(on the battery amps), not what is in the batteries. This is after the batteries are full of course.

Exactly. Amps are drawn by the load. No load, No amps.

@@kenbarnett9415 lol batteries don't have amps "in" them per se. what the actual fuck are you talking about?

@@Claymore1977 I broke open a car battery the other day and all the amps fell out.

A turbine and solar combo would be best

@@live.life.simple. will have to look into it

I was going to point this out as well.

Yes...and since the battery is almost charged fully...your current load decreases.

I like to explain it this way. The energy has nowhere to go if the batteries are full and there is nothing to consume the power: hence no load. If there is no load, there is no wattage because V * I = W. So voltage can be present without load and current will not be flowing.

Or buy self locking nuts. Used all the time in aviation.

Yes👍

turbines need to be supplemented with solar to be effective. They also need to be run into a storage bank so you can draw power from it.

Each wind gen should have a mount height requirement. Mine says in the manual 4.5 to 6m, which is 15 to 20 Feet.

@@techlab-gi1uz rule of thumb with wind turbines: 4.5-6m means from peak of home NOT the ground. Lol Amateur mistake. Ex: if u have a 2 story house ur windmill needs to be 4.5-6m above ur 2nd story to catch prevailing winds.

@kcotte59 that is true, but HAWTs don't work well in turbulent air. In order to catch a nice smooth stream of air, you need to get up above anything that might create turbulence, such as a house. If you can get a steady 10MPH at 4ft. great! No need for a huge pole. You'll greatly increase your chances at 4.5-6m above the house though.

In my my neighbors backyard she installed a 12x10 shed two years ago with that shed now in the backyard. The turbulence of the wind is much greater. We now hear howling and get snow drifts we never had before. So I can see why you would want the turbine up above the structures in that area

@@revanmandalore4407 The gobment has a map showing the average wind speeds/direction in your area. They also specify clear air, meaning no ground obstructions that create turbulence, reducing wind turbine life and efficiency.

My turbine lost a blade- We never ever found it! (two years now)

Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated

Thank you for info.

Do *NOT* purchase this Wind Turbine ...

No, but sometimes they make then just a little to much to the lower end of the scale. But he was a bit rough, but I would have thought it would have stood that without to much trouble.

Cool. Let me know when you have it finished, I would love to see it.

This is correct, over 13.8v, the battery will eventually sustain damage. Ideally, you need a MPPT charge controller (the most efficient) ***nice location!!!!

Got it! I'll look and see what i need to change out.

you are right. sometimes it takes an entire life to figure out what is important (happiness).

So what is it you do then

@@mattbruns239 I have a small consulting business and help people to move their homes and buildings off fossil fules and onto renewable energy. The key is heat pumps and solar panels for space heating and domestic hot water. My website is buildingsciencetrust.com

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happiness is key. glad you found your path

seeing how plasticy it looks I'd advise against lock washers and use either loctite, lock nuts (as suggested by hellpal) or a second nut locking the first one

cool thanks for the tip. I'll check it out!

I built a beer can heater years ago. It has rows of cans painted black with a hole down the middle of each row. Built as a thermoplane it raises inside temp. by fifty degrees on a sunny day and creates it's own airflow so no fan required. It fits in one of the windows to my den and slopes outside at an angle perpendicular to the height of the sun for maximum efficiency. Each fall I put it in the window and remove it each spring. It likely provides a good portion of my day time heating in my home and only blocks the lower ten inches of the window. Cost around fifty dollars to build and I've used it year after year. For a greenhouse it would be a good heating addition during the daytime.

Very cool! I will see what i can come up. I guess i'll have to come up with a way to empty some beer cans🤣

@@live.life.simple. Invite a bunch of friends over or a few construction workers. Mine uses around 120 cans. It's made from foil faced styrofoam with a greenhouse corrugated panel to hold in the heat. It's a double layer with the lower layer pulling in indoor air and the upper layer returned the heated air into the house.

Thats why welders and jumper cables have such thick cable. Some welding machines are only around 12v but theyre at least 90 amps or more and using 14 gauge extension cord will burn in half in less than a couple seconds or catch on fire if you try to jump your car off with it

Why would you want ro take the diodes out and produce AC only to have to rectify it again to DC to charge a battery ? And whats with the 17volts ? 🤔 BTW an alternator produces 3 phase AC before being rectified & regulated... 🙄

@@carlcox7332 nope... 🙄

@@peterfitzpatrick7032 Not to convert to DC, but use the AC.

@@peterfitzpatrick7032 An automotive alternator can only produce ~ 17 volts.

All great ideas. I appreciate the tips!

Thank you

Arf?

Hey,nice tip.thanks.

were you able to do any smoke studies on the wedge to see how far back the turbulence starts? you can see it on flag poles (wind speed factors) usually around the end of the 3 foot flag. i ask this as that turbulence will also affect the (apparent wind in sailing) but also the self seeking wind vane. i appreciate that observation of yours. my degree is in green energy and the wind turbines i know are all computer controlled and turned, held in place by brakes if needed. i kayak, but i would love to have a 30 foot off shore brig

A Sea Breeze and a Land Breeze !

I completely agree. It's not just solar panels, it's that way with most everything chinese made!

There was a new material invented about 30 years ago called Chinesium. It is only slightly different from pure shite.

Do you know the name of the mother company?

@@live.life.simple. I believe the product was called Air X Marine 24v also referred to as the Air Breeze, they were supplied by Sky Stream Energy (.eu) and appear (to me) to be identical to the one you show above...is there a LED in the tail that flashes to indicate the unit operating mode? I don't know the mother company but I suspect a strong composition of 'chinesium' in it's manufacture.... Your question caused me to go through my records and I WAS WRONG to suggest they burned out supplying power (they are actually pretty good at that), the problem is when they go into self regulating mode either because the upper volt limit is reached OR because the wind exceeds a certain speed. We fitted a diverting 'Dump Load' (Morning Star?) but that could never solve the internal 'high wind speed' brake and the generators burned out again...not a pretty situation; customer p'eed off, me p'eed off, local agent p...etc etc. This was circa 2010/2011 and maybe the problem has since been solved (might be a good idea to establish date of manufacture for your unit)? I would DEF recommend a dump load (Morning Star?) and that needn't be wasted energy either; consider a low voltage element to heat a water tank? THEN thermostat THEN Dump Load...... I hope this info is useful to you. I attach below one of many emails regarding the problems we had, absolutely no reason that you might want or need to read it ....unless you're very bored! Regards, Con In all it's glory... from me; Hello xxxx, further to our recent phone conversation and discussion of the provision of external Load Dumps /regulator circuits for the Wind Generator sites in xxxx Port, I can add the following....... Initial reports (and events) suggest the failure of one or both Wind gen units (again). I will visit and inspect both sites to confirm, hopefully this Thur/Fri 13-14 Jan 2011 or very soon thereafter. My initial reaction to fitting external Dump/Regulator is positive BUT I have a very genuine concern that this WILL NOT provide a complete solution for the following reason; The unit as described in the Product Sheets and Product Manual not only 'Brakes' or Regulates at the upper voltage levels but it ALSO 'Brakes' in high wind speeds. IF the unit failures are due to the inability of the Internal Regulation Circuitry to withstand/short the Coil output over time (which is a design error, lets face it) then a carefully selected and set external regulator can indeed 'dump' the excess power BEFORE the internal circuitry is engaged at close to battery capacity levels.... HOWEVER, this does not account for the 'High Wind Speed' regulation, which I am reasonably sure may persist for prolonged periods on any site; As described, the Wind Speed Regulation SHOULD be a 'separate mechanism' from the high voltage threshold, (this is presented as an ABSOLUTE, ie. the unit 'brakes' above a certain wind speed, the implication is that it hasn't necessarily approached High Voltage Levels), therefore, an external Reg/Dump will not be engaged and the initial problem will persist.....and the units will fail again............. The above is reasoned speculation balanced with observation and experience......I would hope to eliminate the speculation and propose a way forward...... Firstly; I will copy this e-mail to Port of xxxx Authority. Secondly; I will attend on site, report findings and/or remove the Gens for return as appropriate. Meanwhile, I would hope that you will address the issues raised with the Manufacturer and also review the previous failures on site against any 'other' known issues. Thirdly; I will await your input and discuss with Port of xxxx. I cannot speak for the customer, but for myself I would say the choices are twofold; either accept that a properly engineered solution is probable, practical and provided in a timely fashion, OR.... .........Reject the Wind Gen units as 'unsuitable to purpose'......such subsequent actions as they may take, given the recorded failures and investment of 'man-hours' to attend......one can only speculate...... That's it, we are all 'sick of' the failures in xxxx and a solution is required; we had one, if only the Wind Gens performed as specified. Regards (more like regrets), Connor Mc Grath Principal Engineer ATON Services Ireland

+Con McGrath - The idea of shorting the generator's output in high winds to "brake" the turbine is crazy on its face. It is a sure guarantee to burn out the generator windings. It reminds me of a comment I once read in a DIY wind power book about the old Wincharger units that used an airbrake mechanism attached to the rotor which would deploy by having two revolving flaps mush into the airstream, slowing the rotor by aerodynamic drag. The author compared it to applying the brakes on a car while keeping the accelerator depressed. What is needed is both a manual and automatic means to *furl* the machine--something that is totally missing from these units. Ah, well, nothing like reinventing the wheel.

Thanks Ken. What type of solar panels do you use?

Charging batteries IS A LOAD. Energy being transferred to a storage medium is work being done, that is the very definition of power.

so true!

Poky buildslt

Save your money for batteries.

Chris W facts, so basically if you have low winds say no more than 10 MPH wind just have 2-3 wind turbines that are for low wind so you can get 2-3 times that power, so for low wind speeds 3-10 MPH I’d get 3 200 watt wind turbines that can effectively run at that wind speed and still push in 600 watts of power, combo with solar panels you now have effective offgrid power to watch tv run a fridge washer, etc rtc

@@realtruth1448 What you're saying is essentially true. The issue is the trade-off for getting power from lower wind speed is size. Sure you can design a turbine to get some power from 5 mph winds, but it's going to be relatively large and costly for the amount of power you get, and it won't work well in higher winds. Those huge wind towers dotting the countryside aren't there to impress - their size is a trade-off of output power versus cost (total cost, including maintenance, transmission lines...). These small wind turbines are great, because you can do your own maintenance for very little cost, and if you can't repair them you don't beggar yourself replacing them. There is an old adage among wind turbine aficionados you might want to keep in mind: Every 10 feet in height adds about 5 mph average wind speed. I'm not sure how accurate it is, number-wise, but it is certainly true that average wind speed increases with altitude. So where five feet off your single-story roof might barely turn the blades, a 30-40 foot tower could give you consistent power. Also, keep the turbine 10 feet (3 meters) above any nearby obstructions. Placing it so close to his house, and apparently lower then the roof peak the way he did, will definitely cut your power output.

Chris W if you know a certain area rarely or never gets high wind speeds getting a 200 watt turbine, 3-4 of them you’re producing 600-800 watts which in combo with solar panels can more than enough produce power offgrid and live exactly the same as ongrid with lower maintenance also there’s small wind turbines that start turning at 3-5 MPH wind and can handle up to 50-60 MPH and 50-60 MPH would only hit that area if tornado or hurricane hits which you wouldn’t have to worry about if you pick nice area, the trade off is better, just have to know the weather and climate of your area, from my future offgrid home It’s never colder than 20 degrees F and never hotter than 95 degrees F and the winds rarely are over 20 MPH, also it gets cloudy during a 4 month period 75% of the time during that 4 month period that means my solar panels plus 3-4 200 WATT wind turbines can effectively provide me power year round without high maintenance or anything of that sorts, I can watch tv have wifi fridge washer dryer etc etc and still have power left over,

Chris W building a two story house, the point I will put turbines will be nearly 25ft off the ground which they will catch efficient wind, plus very simple and easy maintenance on a 200 WATT wind turbine because they’re small and low priced you can get an elite 200 WATT wind turbine for a little as 100$ and it works like a charm... if you want top of the line it’s still not running you more than 300$, boom 4 wind turbines 200 watt for 400$-1200$ and they’ll last for decades... simple and effective, going offgrid in Canada because the United States is going to shit

@@realtruth1448 Nice! Free power is always a good thing! I have a bunch of relatives in northeastern NY, 20 miles from Canada (south of Ogdensburg, if you know it), and that's cold enough for me, thanks! I moved to the southern US for a reason! :-)

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Dog wants to eat a coyote...

You bet

The meter is the load

Amperage has to be tested in series of the circuit with a load on the system. Some meters claim you can test amperage in parallel but it will never be an acurate reading. It'll just show that there are electeons traveling through the wire. If the battery is low then it becomes the load on the system. Amps is the flow of electrons as the name "current" implies

You gotta be from the UK, I havent heard of those since my late 60s Triumph bike

That's sure as heck RIGHT.

I am developing the world's best H-darreus.

@@jukkatakamaa7274 Let me know....thanks!

A small fan behind a woodstove does an amazing job of spreading the heat and seems to extract more BTUs from the hot metal than if there is no breeze. I probably don't need to tell you to always burn with a flame showing...smouldering a fire is inefficient and turns potential fuel (smoke) into creosote inside your chimney.

Glad it helped. They go together real easy.