Well executed with so much détails so it's not just an easy dial color change. Applied logo, applied indexes, blackened indexes and hands, red touches. It maybe lacks lume on the dial and maybe a white bezel black typo ref. What would you think about à white bezel ? I would like to try it and see if i have the same impression i had with the black version. I thought it was very square because of lugs and endlink. This part of the watch is flat so it draws a rectangle that override the round case. So for now i don't like the black version. I own a worldtimer (43mm case) and shorter lugs and endlink don't override the round case.
It's a great looking watch, i'll buy it, i love white dials with black hands and hour markers. I have a Rolex Explorer 2 white dial (last reference) and my father has a '86 Datejust with white Buckley dial...
Looks like one of the best white dial watches in many years to come from a brand who is into mass production. On the straps it’s an absolute killer. It’s a game changer… not because it’s the first or something that hasn’t been done before, but because it’s the first white in the Rolex / Omega class, that is better looking than the Daytona. My opinion… Let me have it Rolex fanboys😂
Is anyone else here old enough to remember when the average guy who was doing reasonably well, could actually afford to play this "luxury" watch game? If watch collecting were a sport I've been ejected and sent to the locker room, changed my clothes and left the stadium.
Yea, im thinking the same thing. Bought my speedy new for 3600 usd ish, and sold it... Now i hope this watch will make the black ones a bit more affordable, so i can buy it back 😮💨😅
You are soooo right. I found not à lot time ago the receipt of my very first luxurious watch in 2008. It was a speedy of course, hematite, full steel. Bought it tax free in schipol Airport for...2300 euros ! There was a time where the speedmaster was 1.5 time the monthly salary of an average engineer...now at 8800 euros, ir becomes almost impossible for the average dude to think of it. That is another sign the middle class is disappearing...
I've always found white text on black is far clearer than black text on white for some reason which is why I always use dark mode on my devices. Inverting the colour palette on the speedy really does make it look completely different .
I'm also a Dark Mode guy for that reason. It's quite amazing how well fine white lines look on a black surface compared to the inverse. Must say, money no option, having the "Yin & Yang" would be brilliant because of how much our perspectives shift 🥃
I love it ! but ill be honest , i can't get me to be paying a whoping 4000€ more in only 3 years since i got my 1861 new with a discount from an Omega dealer. I understand the prices have risen on the global scale , but this is not justifiable.
Great point brother. The prices have changed our perceptions about what we REALLY want. It's no longer frivolous fun chasing these new pieces (unless there's a great deal to be found) but around 4x price increases in the last year and a half? It's insanity 🥃
First off, I love the look of the new white dial. The only "complaint" I would have is with the lume plots on the hour markers vs the OG having fully lumed markers. The black dial will be superior at night vs the new white version. I am lucky enough to own the 50th Snoopy which has the same style of lume plots and the readability at night or in a dark room is almost none. I know, first world problems but for anyone trying to decide on which Speedy to get this might be something to consider. Cheers!
Just picked one up. It's a gorgeous piece and wears like a 39/40. I just wish the bracelet didn't taper as much, and it had more micro adjustments. Dial just makes perfect sense and is a beauty to look at. In love with it.
personally I like this version of the speedmaster over the standard model. The touch of red is what does it for me. I love these little differentiator's in watches
I bought a Sub no Date and a Sapphire Sandwich SpeedMaster last year retail. Now this comes out and I am wondering do I sell one so i have a black and white dial combo.
It’s a great looking watch no doubt. Looks more premium and dressy. There are a few interesting details to mention. 1. No Hesalite version. I suppose it makes sense for a more upscale piece. 2. Price bump is likely to be extended to all Omega catalogue at some point. 3. They could’ve put a ceramic bezel to make the watch more modern and premium. 4. New straps that would work on all 3861 models. - The rally leather strap looks nice. Is there a new racing dial Speedy coming? - Not so sure abt the rubber. To me it doesn’t work with the upscale watch. Maybe Omega wants to have its own oyster-flex?) I’m wearing my Hesalite Speedy 3861 as I write this. Love the watch. It’s been my grail. The most basic Speedy. I don’t feel like I need another Speedy. My Seiko SARB035 is my not black dial watch 😊
There are lots of quirks to this new machine for sure AND it's good to say that the black dial will always be more "versatile" as a daily and more historically significant, I mean it's the icon. The White dial? A nice change of colour, a great addition if you want that Yin/Yang BUT not as "rounded" as the OG 🥃
I’d get lerally yesterday one if not for two facts: - i already own hesalite 3861 speedy - i don’t like saphire caseback. i mean the one from hesalite is not unobtainium you can get one in the boutique right away, but it adds to the price. I mean… It’s a wonderfull watch. I still claim it’s better than Daytona and I might get one in the future. As I said in the beginning if not for the fact that I already own and daily a Speedmaster it’s a no brainer to get this!
I tried it on, I would say in person it’s better than the photos. I also have no interest in getting one since I already have the pro 3861 black dial. It just doesn’t really speak to me 🤷🏻♂️
Not sure. I’ve owned a couple of white dial watches, and I never end up connecting with them. I prefer the black dial classic, too many speedy variants. There is a reason Rolex keep the Sub to just a few.
Considering how many variations of this watch there are I have no issue with the white dial and some soiling of the original. I just prefer the black… or the snoopy actually I really like the snoopy let’s go with the snoopy!!!!
Good question, it's a tough one (different for everybody) but the Black Daytona is one of those aspiration pieces that I'm sure few would really part with to chase and Omega (my 2 cents) Saying that though... a white dial speedmaster is something else 🔥
Well said. Let the fools pay over retail in the first year then pick one up for $1000 or more off retail in the aftermarket. Omega will pump these out in very high volume and they will sell very well in the near term, priming the second hand market in 2025
I love the Speedy, prefer the standard one. But this looks great. Sadly Omega cannot calculate with exchange rates. The watch in Switzerland is 1000 euro cheaper than here in the Netherlands, cheaper and easier to just go to 🇨🇭. Doesn’t make sense.
The prices are just manic... Soon they'll be in excess of 10K (sterling) - will Omega ever get the memo? 😆 Hey, at least they're making the decision to travel to Switzerland easier for folks ;)
Excellent video yet again. This version might just be the start of a larger collection yet to arrive? I think a light green possibly next. I still await my snoopy so I’m patient enough to hold out.
It's difficult to know what they have in store. I'm sure they put great, great care into these "core" models (in steel) The '57 Range lets them be more creative and of course all the precious metal variants BUT hey! This could open the door for them to start experimenting with blues and all sorts in the core collection 🥃
I'd like to see more colours, but they'll probably be very strict with keeping the contrast as high as possible, as that's a key element of the design.
It does feel like when the Seamaster started to expand dial colours (there is probably too many now but that's something else). However, I feel like it's easier for divers to play with colour (and be accepted) as opposed to tooly chronos
I have a small wrist at about 158mm (6.22inch). Most of my watches are 37-38mm. This watch looks more like a 39-40 on me. For anyone who worries the speedmaster pro might be too big on smaller wrists, go try it in person. Your though may change once you put it on.
These videos make it look so desirable. However, watching videos of others at the AD handling and trying on make it fall flat for me and underwhelming on their wrists. I'll have to get to an AD and check it out for myself.
Black dial look way better, i was at the omega store today they had it, but not for sale yet only one for show, i tried both side by side. The white is popping way to much, takes away that moonwatch charm. But its beautiful just not for me because its not versatile its more a dress up watch. The black one just works anytime anywhere.
The black dial, whether hesalite or sapphire, is what gets worn on the mission. After successful completion, the white dial option accompanies drinks and backslaps at the bar.
I wish they made the tachymeter bezel ceramic instead of aluminum. They already made enough changes with the white shiny dial and applied indices, that they should have gone all the way and upscaled the bezel. The watch reminds me of the Speedmaster Racing with the white dial. Beautiful and better specs all around, except it's huge at 44.25mm and 15mm thick. Omega has far too many choices in its model stable, and yet all seem to be missing something (and almost all Omegas are now too big and thick when sizes continue to trend smaller). At this price, and wanting to keep with the aesthetic similar to a Daytona, I'd sooner choose a Zenith Chonomaster Sport.
I find it surprising that it took them this long to add a regular white dial speedy to their catalogue. Also the fact that they have yet to release any blue dialed version of it. And yeah this one I'm liking it very much, but I already have a black dialed speedy and I really don't need more chronographs in my collection lol. I mean let's face it how often do you use chronograph and... The cost of service is pretty steep!
You made a great point, the white dial does make it clearer to read but at the expense of making the different dial functions less distinct. I also find that for me at least, the white dial is harder to read in bright sunlight. This is however is one really stunning watch! Very well done 🥃
It's a good option. I like options. I have two Omega's, a 50th anniversary GMT, and a Chrono, and I rotate through both of them because I like them both.
Beautiful watch but somehow falls flat for me; maybe that will change once I have a chance to see it in person. For now, I’ll hang on to my 3861. For me, watches that are at their heart sports/tool watches generally need to have darker dials, while white/silver should generally be reserved for dress pieces.
The white dial is stunning indeed, but do note with the applied indices the lume are greatly reduced compared to the original speedy. Have yet to seen this mentioned.
When I saw the Chronograph hands moving backwards, I was so confused.... Then I realised the video was played in reverse, haha..... Great video as always!
I have the discontinued 1863 sapphire sandwich and didn't see any need to change to the 3861 as I'm more than happy with mine. Is this new white dial version is different enough to consider it? Maybe it is but I'll be waiting for a while before I even consider a purchase and even then there is no guaranty that I'd move on my current Speedy. They are different enough to consider both but it boils down to being able to justify both. The Moon Watch for me will always be the black dial but the white dial is gorgeous.
When you talked about white dials being “prettier”, I think you hit my thoughts exactly. This watch feels less like a tool watch than the original and more like a luxury timepiece.
As far as I'm aware, there have been a few specialist Limited Edition black models that have had applied elements before (usually always in Gold) So this is a nice road that Omega took AND I don't think they've gone with black plots before - Silver is usually their choice 🥃
I'm going today to look at it at the Omega dealer., if I like it I'm going to put a deposit and wait for it to get here..... out of sight out of mind until they call that it's here.
A few thoughts man. Somebody commented "it looks like a plastic swatch", and I can't get that out of my mind... at first I really liked it. For about a day... and then seeing the porcelain white which does look a bit too bright and plasticky (I need to see it in person), and knowing the price, and experiencing the 3861 bracelet which unfortunately pinched my hair badly.... I'll have to say that after a few days, I'm no longer interested in this...its a great watch for many people I'm sure... but if I was going white dial, I've always found the Explorer 2 and datejust 36mm with roman numerals very attractive..... that's it from me man. Maybe I'm too loyal to black dial watches, and especially my 1861...❤ P.s. also really don't like sapphire on Speedies.... and could not justify to have this watch if I already have what I believe is the ultimate - the original Speedy (which by the way cost me almost £3000 less than the current versions, just a few weeks ago) And a second p.s After watching your railmaster video, it made me remember how much I wanted that watch... and still do... but I would miss the Speedy, so that's not gonna happen any time soon
Well said brother. They're two very different machines and I'd say in the long run the OG will always stay (obviously) Daily versatility, historical significance, better legibility are just a few that come to mind. This white dial is a gorgeous "addition" to a collection but as a one-and-done Speedmaster? I dunno... BUT keep your 1861 😉 Don't part with it!
Asked yesterday at the Omega boutique, Mall of Emirates, Dubai. Was told have to wait 3 to 6 months to get in store but have to preorder to get hands on. Your dead right about just waiting a year or so.
Dubai Mall has it but only one for show off, another thing dont buy from the Omega store in Mall of Emirates, buy from Dubai Mall their service is way higher and atmosphere and overall vibe is better. They earn commission on the watches they sell and that russian guy working in Emirates Mall i dont want him to get any of my sales. He is too arrogant, cold faced, no emotions.
CK2915 & 2998, my absolute favorites of the range (should've mentioned the trilogy) 😉 They're just so good... got hands-on with a CK2998-3 with lollipop hand a few years back... it changes you, man ;)
Beautiful, I’m just hoping the introduction of the white dial will dilute the price of the black dial variant of the secondary. Poised to buy if I see one for sub £4,500. 😊
Stories about how the white dial was inspired by astronaut space suits…🤔 Watch company ‘stories’ really are just so much steaming bs, aren’t they?! 😂 As for legibility, the white speedy (black hands) is certainly far more legible than the white Daytona (high polished hands). Like you, it’s not my style, but also like you I wouldn’t change any element of the design. 🍻
Thank you for your excellent review. I appreciate your encouragement to avoid the hype. It’s a truly beautiful watch. The black dial speedmaster bore me. I prefer the white dialed versions (especially the Canopus gold one) but none of them impress me enough to buy. I understand they are rich in heritage and design but for whatever reason they spark no joy for me.
I’ve never been a fan of the black dial Speedmaster for some reason but this model from a design perspective looks amazing! I would certainly get this model instead of the original one 🙌🏻👍🏻 nothing against black dials because I really love the black dial Daytona by the way
I have owned a 35th anniversary panda 1861 for over 20 years since new, never a second I thought of selling that, white dial / silver dial though stray from it's traditional form, it is brilliant.
Two critiques - 1: when you hold the two speedys side by side the white dial wears smaller than the black 2: I think you’re overestimating how difficult it will be to obtain one of these, I was quoted 3 weeks at my Omega boutique with no prior spend history.
The only watch I might buy that isn't a Rolex. Just don't want to loose too much money. Wait 3 years, they'll be £4k. Meanwhile the Panda will"maybe doubled in value. Decisions decisions ...
I love the dial but I would have left off the red text (makes it look too much like they are trying to emulate the Daytona). The black dial with hesalite crystal is still my favorite.
As always another great video. Although I do not own an Omega, hopefully one day. With that said I am like you that I have never pined for the Speedmaster. I must admit that this white dial has my attention. My favored dial is a matte black dial, I just love the effect it has on legibility. I agree, the hype is going to be pretty loud for a while, but cooler heads prevail for purchasing at the retail price.
Talking about the price, if compare to their own black dial speed master pro. it is USD 1000 higher. Thus the white dial is expensive. On the other hand, the Breitling Chnolograph ceramic asking for USD 110000, then , this white dial is rather competitive.
Another excellent video. I like how you break down the designs. Fascinating. I have a hesalite Moonwatch that I love. If I could I would add the white dial. It is a completely different watch.
I actually think the break from white dial to black bezel makes it wear smaller. Just got mine today and I was surprised how well proportioned it wore on my 6.5" wrist.
This white dial Speedmaster will literally fly off the shelves. I will not buy it as although I do have a few chronographes as well as rattrapantes, I don’t see the usefulness of thes complications other than “nice to have”. I much prefer the mechanical alarm from my JaegerLeCoultre Memovox Tribute to Polaris 1968 which woke me up each day for a year as I was working offshore Brunei. I feel the mechanical alarm as a more interesting complication than a chronograph. I also much prefer the column wheel actuated chronographes than the cam actuated ones… these are more mundane.
I personally love it. Same reason I’m love my exp2 polar. But it will have to be a pass for me. I have the original black dial hesalite model and haven’t worn it really in years. To me, It’s just not a practical daily watch. I gravitate towards my watches that I don’t worry about and that requires a higher level of water resistance. BB54, datejust and exp2 tend to get 99% of my wrist time for just that reason. So while it’s spectacular, for me it’ll just end up sitting in the safe next to its brother.
I’m lucky to already have the current black dial hesalite, and am a long time fan of the space missions that use the black dial. I’ve also got the CK2998 Pulsometer panda dial. So I’ll probably pass on the white dial.
I have always been a more of a Seamaster type of guy. (And black or blue over a white dial). But this watch is gorgeous. This will give the Daytona and El Primero a run for their money. Awesome watch.
It's definitely a great way for Omega to puff out their chest and proves that when they put effort into these sorts of pieces... man, they can nail it! 🥃
I’ve been a big Omega fan for many years but it’s sad to see them become the masters of variations on a theme. So much hype over a dial color is absurd. IMHO Tudor is the one watch company getting things right these days.
I just hope this doesn't drive up the price of other white dial Speedies - there was a limited edition white dial Reduced I've eyed a little, not to mention the CK2998 Pulsometer.
Feel the black dial has more clarity. More Lume. Better silver applied logo. I also feel the red writing on the white dial is not even, or thick enough, the S is thinner than the other red alphabets
Had a chance to try it on during a recent trip to Vegas. The black one never really spoke to me but this white dial is 👌. Only change id make is ceramic bezel over aluminum to match the more modern feel of the watch
