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Is This Europe's Best Designed Neighborhood? 

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People value excellent urban design. And that's a great thing! However, great urban design can also make areas expensive. Nordhavn in Copenhagen is a fantastic neighborhood with incredible urban design practices. It's also pretty pricey. In this video, we'll look at why good urbanism can make places more expensive and a few solutions that could alleviate the issue.
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@nosedive1st
@nosedive1st Месяц назад
It may be eco-friendly in terms of efficiency in materials and energy use, but the neighborhood looks very sterile. As a previous commentator mentioned, there’s hardly any greenery. There seems to be more of it on rooftops than around buildings.
@basquat76
@basquat76 Месяц назад
You see many trees in harbors in general do you?
@nosedive1st
@nosedive1st Месяц назад
@@basquat76 Pardon, I didn’t realize you have selective vision. I’ll tell you that I do see sidewalks and generous pathways along the waterfront.
@basquat76
@basquat76 Месяц назад
@@nosedive1st I'm sorry is that a yes or a no?
@emitsienim
@emitsienim Месяц назад
@@nosedive1st it does seem like there could be so much greenery I thought as well
@holgerjrgensen2166
@holgerjrgensen2166 Месяц назад
In CPHs history, there have Never been so many trees as today, I'm in heart of Vesterbro, within the last year, about 500 trees is planted, 10-15-20-25 years old, Havnevigen metrostation opens in few weeks, yesterday I'd counted 85 trees, might be the most green metrostation-area, all metrostations had added plenty of trees, and also other vegetaton, Enghave station got more than three times number of trees, today I read on a little sign, that more than 5.000 insect freindly flowers plus more than 10.000 'onions', it is a amazing wiev, and full of insects. In my backyard, 150x 30 M.is 70 grown up trees, 40 years ago there was none, in a nabo-karre', is planted 37 new few monts ago. Sydhavnen also a new harbour quarter, has trees in all steets, many planted before constuction were finished, many canals, and 40 bridges, You will be surprised. Most of the harbour front in CPH is green in the buttom. there is streets where it's not possible, but it happends, they find or create space for one or few. It might be 1-2 years ago I'd 'inspected' Nordhavn on cycle, it might be less green than Sydhavn, I dont remember, but there is much more trees than before the project. Video didn focus that much, mostly from above perspective 80 Kejser-linde trees waiting to be planted in the new Carlsberg, as already have many trees and green niches, they might be 25-30 year when they get planted. I'm from 1954, cycled CPH thin, since I was Six, visited 80 countries, 200 of the biggest cities and many more. Well, still many more trees wait to be planted, yaeh here is far more trees than never before.
@GamingNachos
@GamingNachos Месяц назад
I live in copenhagen! The area is cold and boring to walk along, nothing to do there. Also lack of greenery, but this is true for most of copenhagen. Nordhavn, like most new developments are just some fancy modernist boxes for rich people.
@Infernus25
@Infernus25 Месяц назад
Its ridiculous with how pretty the old parts of town are that architects and developers have been allowed to build something so ugly and souless
@AwangardaGames
@AwangardaGames Месяц назад
Great video! Though I hate modernist architecture.
@alexwilliamwin
@alexwilliamwin Месяц назад
It’s distinct. That’s about all I’ll give it…
@trooper1972
@trooper1972 26 дней назад
and I love it !
@markuserikssen
@markuserikssen Месяц назад
I must say that it all looks very impressive, but one thing I noticed when visiting Copenhagen is that it really lacks trees and greenery in most of the urban neighborhoods, especially in cental areas. Nordhavn may promote itself as "green" but if you look at the footage, there is still a lot to win. I know that being green is about more than having greenery everywhere. But where are the trees in most streets? There is so much space in many areas, but it has so much asphalt and pavement everywhere. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the city, its efficient transportation options, and modern architecture. However, many of the apartment buildings look very basic and nothing special considering the pricing. The affordability is a big issue that should be tackled for sure. How can an average single person afford such high rents?
@kimlaursen8224
@kimlaursen8224 Месяц назад
I agree with you, Markus
@JustinJamesJeep
@JustinJamesJeep Месяц назад
I agree, although you ask where the trees are and I see many trees but they're all dormant for the winter. With no leaves. In many of the shots if you pause and look around for a minute you can see a decent amount of trees. Yes they're young but it's a new development and has only young trees as one would expect.
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Месяц назад
They have a decent amount of trees and green space, and usually expensive cities are also cities where you make more money in the first place, and where there are more opportunities to do so, than anywhere else nearby
@markuserikssen
@markuserikssen Месяц назад
@@JustinJamesJeep I mean, there are trees. But very few. If you look carefully, many streets don't have any or very few. Not even in big parts of the waterfront. For an area like that, they could have added way more trees. Especially considering it's a Scandinavian city. My point is that there is way too much asphalt and concrete that could have been used for greenery. I'm also talking about the other parts of central Copenhagen. I've been there many times and it always surprises me how few trees there are. Amsterdam streets are much greener, but Amsterdam doesn't have as many parks or nature areas nearby.
@markuserikssen
@markuserikssen Месяц назад
@@carstarsarstenstesenn I have a different perspective regarding the trees, but that's fine.
@Aidan_Au
@Aidan_Au Месяц назад
Please make a video about Oslo and other Nordic country's cities. Thank you! I just subscribed to support
@RottenlyMoodyChild
@RottenlyMoodyChild Месяц назад
For me, it's either Seestadt in Vienna or Vauban in Freiburg
@RobertDoornbosF1
@RobertDoornbosF1 Месяц назад
Vauban is great, interesting history, eco friendly, TOD and lots of greenery.
@HepauDK
@HepauDK 5 дней назад
2:32 The pre-cast concrete elements of this parking garage (Lüders) was produced by the company I work for (or rather worked for, the factory I work at was sold to a competitor last fall). It is a concrete structure with metal facades. It's not a trampoline park at the top per se, more like an activity area. 2:28 The concrete beam structure of the bridge shown to the far right was also made at the same factory. I was the one making the production drawings for the beams. :)
@Infernus25
@Infernus25 Месяц назад
Im pretty sure CPH or Denmark in general has a law that 25% of residences in all new builds has to be allocated for affordable housing. Also your idea of making buildings taller severly impacts the street life. Jan gehl (great DK urban planner) highlights how more wind is drawn down onto the street and the taller buildings shade from the sun, something that is lacking most of the year in CPH
@XandateOfHeaven
@XandateOfHeaven 28 дней назад
There has to be a balance in building height and distance between buildings. A city where no building is over 5 floors, but there is no space between buildings and the streets are narrow can have a worse impact on sunlight than a city which has many buildings over 20 floors. It's definitely a weakness of cities like Paris and Vienna, which are otherwise beautiful cities.
@Infernus25
@Infernus25 28 дней назад
@@XandateOfHeaven Generally a building that is 20 floors will create much more shade than spreading out multiple blocks of 6-7 stories. Especially in the DK climate with little sun in winter this greatly impacts the experience of the Urban space at street level
@PhoenixHen
@PhoenixHen Месяц назад
Nothing modernist is better than traditional cities
@toniderdon
@toniderdon Месяц назад
The main lesson from this is that modern architecture looks horrible. We need to build neoclassical buildings instead
@XandateOfHeaven
@XandateOfHeaven 28 дней назад
There is more to beautiful architecture than neoclassical. Plenty of modernism styles are beautiful: Art Deco, Vienna Secession, Streamline Moderne, etc
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 18 дней назад
A little disapointing, a guy talking about city infrastructure and housing, doesn't know why they don't allow high rises. You will find it on page one in the city infrastructure book.
@tommarney1561
@tommarney1561 Месяц назад
Are the buildings themselves expensive due to luxurious features, or do the location and characteristics of the area enable the owners to jack up prices and make huge profits? If the latter, isn't that inappropriate for a public agency?
@emilhoum6644
@emilhoum6644 21 день назад
I think you need to look into Bjørvika, Oslo. I think bjørvika is a better designed neighborhood.
@DenzelPF-jl4lj
@DenzelPF-jl4lj 19 дней назад
How is this better in comparison with "Hafencity" in Hamburg for instance? Doesn't seem too special to me... Most new urban areas in richer cities look like that to be honest 😬
@bilkaman3000
@bilkaman3000 7 дней назад
the D is silent mo fuga
@henryschamp4640
@henryschamp4640 Месяц назад
This is so sick!!! Gotta love Copenhagen!!
@nicholasc.5944
@nicholasc.5944 Месяц назад
eh..its well good i guess looks like every other fancy mordern "neighborhood" built in late capital 2020s
@RobertDoornbosF1
@RobertDoornbosF1 Месяц назад
Houthavens in Amsterdam looks pretty cool, though it's not all that new
@kimlaursen8224
@kimlaursen8224 Месяц назад
Hope you'll look into the area 'Carlsbergbyen' as well, @Shortcut Documentaries 🇩🇰
@toniderdon
@toniderdon Месяц назад
Looks horrible. There needs to be more classical architecture.
@HermannderCherusker1970
@HermannderCherusker1970 24 дня назад
I'm so tired of people calling "success" some kind of "crisis".
@TheDobsonic
@TheDobsonic Месяц назад
Using your own stats parking spaces are actually cheap priced by square foot.
@misterbeach8826
@misterbeach8826 Месяц назад
An important downside of these mixed-zone urban design are... the real estate prices. The surrounding commercial buildings skyrocket the real estate prices. Copenhagen is quite expensive for a small country in this regard, and so is Berlin, Hamburg, Munich. And these cities are not like NY with some extremely high populations. Even outside of center real estate is expensive in Copenhagen, despite a lower average income than in the US.
@tobi2731
@tobi2731 Месяц назад
The size of the country doesn't really matter. Singapore is a city state and one of the most expensive cities in Asia. Also Copenhagen is not expensive compared to the main hubs in the USA like San Francisco, LA, New York. The incredibly high prices for developeable land in Copenhagen are mainly a function of that there is almost none left. Nordhavn is already an artificial island. It's the suburbification that bites Copenhagen in the foot here. Areas like Sundby on Amager, Gentofte in the north, the West of Valby, Brønshøj-Husum and Vanløse consist mostly of detached single family homes with a density in the 3-4k per km² range. If you would have built it more like Frederiksberg C or really any of the Bro-kvarter (Amagerbro, Vesterbro, Nørrebro, Østerbro) you could have housed up to 8 times as many people there while simultaneously providing more public functions. And it's no like these places are far away. From the western periphery in Husum - which is about as far out as you can get in Copenhagen municipality to the Indre By it's around 8km - and a lot of people these days would say Nørrebro is the real centre, so that's even shorter.
@HermannderCherusker1970
@HermannderCherusker1970 24 дня назад
Why the need to give uncapable people a place next to successful people?
@Mittenzzs
@Mittenzzs Месяц назад
It's cool but the architecture is so bland, cold and sterile to me. I wish developers would do something other than this ugly modernist style
@leptir7110
@leptir7110 27 дней назад
PRIJE JE BOLJE
@collectioneur
@collectioneur 29 дней назад
No, it's not...
@erikkramer5931
@erikkramer5931 Месяц назад
…… I think it’s very bold to call those buildings beautiful
@jphjphjph
@jphjphjph Месяц назад
Destroy modernism
@agustinarcusa7696
@agustinarcusa7696 Месяц назад
Cities in texas are affordable and desirable
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Месяц назад
sure if you have a car
@agustinarcusa7696
@agustinarcusa7696 Месяц назад
@@carstarsarstenstesenn I've never said otherwise, but at least they have a house
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Месяц назад
@@agustinarcusa7696 The point being required to own a car significantly decreases the affordability of a place. A neighborhood like this may be expensive, but residents are more likely (and able) to have money from not owning a car (and also from living in a city with a lot more opportunities to make a killing than somewhere in Texas that you have to drive 30+ min to and from). People in these cities make more money and they spend a lot less of it on cars than Texans.
@agustinarcusa7696
@agustinarcusa7696 Месяц назад
​@@carstarsarstenstesenn I get what you are saying, but if you have to pay 500k for an appartment instead of 250k you dont have more. I would also point tha texans have much more disposable income. Finally, dont get me wrong I dont like suburbia, but thinking eurpean cities are a paradise is not real, same thing with cities like amsterdam.
@carstarsarstenstesenn
@carstarsarstenstesenn Месяц назад
@@agustinarcusa7696 Never said it was perfect. Copenhagen is more comparable to New York than any other city in the US, and even then, it's apples to oranges.
@emilhoum6644
@emilhoum6644 21 день назад
I think you need to look into Bjørvika, Oslo. I think bjørvika is a better designed neighborhood.
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