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Is This REALLY A Skip Patch? | HSR CN Pulling Opinions V2.4 

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@MapleYum
@MapleYum Месяц назад
It’s the Huo Huo curse. Last time it was Argenti. Now it’s Jiaoqiu.
@isaaccaraballo5359
@isaaccaraballo5359 Месяц назад
Curse of huehue
@yurimiracle7768
@yurimiracle7768 Месяц назад
wdym argenti is still very good at PF and good in MOC, jiaoqiu after his massive nerfs is just mid
@AnhKhoa-zf4cm
@AnhKhoa-zf4cm Месяц назад
​​@@yurimiracle7768he is amazing in PF, but I'd not use the word good in MOC. Argenti is mid in both MOC and AS
@Rainin.7
@Rainin.7 Месяц назад
H😭H😭
@0kaiKai
@0kaiKai Месяц назад
Jiaoqiu got overnerfed, because nobody is allowed to overshadow your forced waifu Firefly, even Acheron.
@Thatblackdude8
@Thatblackdude8 Месяц назад
14:12 this is the first time ive actualy heard him say huohuo's name 💀💀
@0omatthewo0
@0omatthewo0 Месяц назад
HVEH HVEH
@radiusx89
@radiusx89 Месяц назад
WAHHH WAHHH
@codealias3234
@codealias3234 Месяц назад
If you paid attention in the first 20 seconds of the video he said Huo Huo as well.
@raypan421
@raypan421 Месяц назад
@@codealias3234He means actually saying it correctly bro. Like the actual mandarin pronunciation.
@Borovski213
@Borovski213 Месяц назад
It truly is. I know people regards Huohuo as a top tier healer due to her buffs but with Acheron and FF at the top, I barely feel the need for her. Yunli is just an enhanced Clara. Jiaoqui was supposed to be the one carrying the patch but after they butchered his kit, his pull value to a lot of people dropped significantly. Bcs of that, I would argue that Sparkle is the overall better pick in all of the banners
@Ka-nd5lh
@Ka-nd5lh Месяц назад
as a huohuo haver, her most important niche for my account is when fighting enemies with a lot of debuffs/cc
@isaaccaraballo5359
@isaaccaraballo5359 Месяц назад
As a sparkle with lightcone haver I indeed confirm that this is the skip patch
@namieblinker5922
@namieblinker5922 Месяц назад
Sparkle is obligatory pull on my account, for my Jing Yuan hyper carry.
@Nosiop09
@Nosiop09 Месяц назад
Is her lightcone worth it
@Frallicus
@Frallicus Месяц назад
it's basically: if you have dps, 2 sustains and atleast 2 of the holy trinity supports, then this a skip patch.
@Planeta1951
@Planeta1951 Месяц назад
Siince Gallagher released I forgot what limited sustain even is.
@AMDeZani
@AMDeZani Месяц назад
Blud just forgot to classify himself as a 5-star. Gallagher is easily the strongest 4-star in the entire game, and probably only Tingyun is close.
@hanafia9533
@hanafia9533 Месяц назад
Fr, luocha died the moment gallagher releases
@PotitoDestroyer3000
@PotitoDestroyer3000 Месяц назад
Fr he replaced every place my Natasha was ocupying 😂 I REALLY need Huohuo, its a must-pull for me 🫠
@Scab160
@Scab160 Месяц назад
Considering the leaks rn, it's honestly better to save either way for lingsha or the wind hunt general foxian (i forgot her name). We can also assume that we'll most likely be getting the nihility trio of black swan, kafka and acheron in reruns soon as well anyways.
@andrewhaydock5557
@andrewhaydock5557 Месяц назад
Her name is fei xiao and i'm saving everything for those two during this patch.
@QMS9224
@QMS9224 Месяц назад
I feel Huohuo will have similar value lingsha. Huohuo has more offensive utility, lingsha might be better in super break and fua but there’s already aventurine and Gallagher for that.
@RogerNbr
@RogerNbr Месяц назад
EVERYTHING FOR MOMMY FEIXIAO RRAAAAAAAAHHHH 🗣️
@jacobdonut4932
@jacobdonut4932 Месяц назад
Agreed. Saving for Feixio. Lingsha looks to be very niche and if you already have Gallagher then oof. Gallagher is just as good better save my jades or go all in with Feixio.
@Radiant450
@Radiant450 Месяц назад
@@RogerNbrfun fact: she doesn’t use tall model, similar to JL. RIP the dream
@kupo6905
@kupo6905 Месяц назад
One thing to take note; Yunli may be the only one that can make March Hunt reach max potential considering how often she attacks and uses her ult, which helps March build up stacks faster, unleashing more enhanced basic attacks This may be another double dps setup situation
@namieblinker5922
@namieblinker5922 Месяц назад
Well since it seemed like Yunli was March's master, it'd make sense that they synergyze well.
@KneecapBreaker445
@KneecapBreaker445 Месяц назад
Topaz could work pretty well
@Kaien-qf6cr
@Kaien-qf6cr Месяц назад
Topaz ? March have FuA too that topaz can help
@randomguy9002
@randomguy9002 Месяц назад
The problem is that march kinda need to ult before using basic Her dmg drop way too much without ult enhance
@HotMokha
@HotMokha Месяц назад
Gallagher works pretty well too if you're going for a super break hybrid setup
@jstar261
@jstar261 Месяц назад
The real answer is to save for the Nuclear Fate Collab.
@RavenShugo
@RavenShugo Месяц назад
If we gonna have to pull for this collab, then I expect them not adding new heroes on top of it at the same time, or it's just gonna be cash grab on fomo.
@ilovecamie
@ilovecamie Месяц назад
It's most likely not gonna be actual characters I'm assuming it's gonna be like an outfit or an icon
@crystalizedxx7461
@crystalizedxx7461 Месяц назад
but we have a whole year to save for that collab though, might as well pull for some other interesting character before we are close
@fashaba
@fashaba Месяц назад
It's good to have low expectations, but considering their older game HI3 collab with Eva, I'm pretty sure they will released an entire new character that never get a rerun just like Asuka.
@mashuchan7906
@mashuchan7906 Месяц назад
​@@RavenShugohahahaa if they did a skin of Clara ang svarog ita going to be funny but maybe it might be similar to the other collabs
@boo5860
@boo5860 Месяц назад
Jiaoqiu before nerfs was so good I'm genuinely kinda mad abt his current state ngl
@the_krakyn
@the_krakyn Месяц назад
It's nuts, because a pretty vocal portion of the community on the leaks subreddit were praying he wouldn't be a healer and (then later in beta) that he'd get DoT built into his E0 kit (was initially in Eidolons). Well they got their wish - now he sucks.
@janciszewski8433
@janciszewski8433 Месяц назад
​@@the_krakyn troll comunity like they should buff his dot and remain heal
@scorpx3790
@scorpx3790 Месяц назад
Guess Hoyo can't let an NPC be stronger than a waifu (Swan)
@Fr00stee
@Fr00stee Месяц назад
@@the_krakyn dont know why they didn't just give him some healing based off his dot dmg when the field is up
@tidus9942
@tidus9942 Месяц назад
He is still BiS for Acheorn for the extra stacks alone. Still a good pull for PF and Acheron comps but thats it.
@chriscrocker3976
@chriscrocker3976 Месяц назад
Worth noting- the new sustain unit coming in the next patch sounds busted for the super break team so far. Basically powercreeping the hell out of Gallagher and even Luocha considering shes like Topaz and Luocha rolled into one break effect unit. Dishs out high break damage, heals, cleanse, emergency heals, and even defense shred with eidlons
@etern1tydark
@etern1tydark Месяц назад
very good if you have ff e1 since she's not sp+
@QMS9224
@QMS9224 Месяц назад
I think at e0 Huohuo still seems stronger in every comp outside of super break. And for fua there’s aventurine. So I think she only seems good for FF/super break mains
@oIIified
@oIIified Месяц назад
Probably like a mere ~15% increase over C6 Gallagher. You can only buff an already OP as hell team so much
@puenboy1
@puenboy1 Месяц назад
Considering that Gallagher is already a secret 5 star, a “mere 15% upgrade” to E6 Gallagher is a huge upgrade blud
@puenboy1
@puenboy1 Месяц назад
Not to mention that gallagher isn’t only great for superbreak teams
@27Ganon
@27Ganon Месяц назад
Yunli is drastically underrated by the community, beta testers are saying she's competing with Acheron & Firefly (or whoever else you think is T0). She was overtuned to hell due to CN complaining they didn't feel too much of an improvement from Clara. Direct powercreep characters are in general likely to end up incredibly strong to incentivize players to pull, same thing might happen to Lingsha.
@tidus92forever
@tidus92forever Месяц назад
Good to hear. I'm a new player and i need a carry.
@seancuss6754
@seancuss6754 Месяц назад
her e1 strength is insane, but e2 yunli vs e2 acheron or e2 firefly doesnt match, personally im going for e1s1, and seems very good in any content.
@greenvega
@greenvega Месяц назад
Beta testers...those ppl doesn't know how game works, i wouldn't listen a single word about power lvl of chars from them, u can only watch animations and basic mechanics from those ppl
@27Ganon
@27Ganon Месяц назад
@@greenvega I'm talking about people from a specific discord server where everyone does 0 cycles and takes full advantage of wind set, DDD, etc. If anything Yunli will perform worse in the hands of players who don't fully understand the mechanics (i.e. players who think Acheron and Firefly are far above everyone else).
@KalleDemos666
@KalleDemos666 Месяц назад
@@27Ganon The people who think Acheron and Firefly are far above everyone else are the people who actually do the math, though it would seem to me like you don't understand why people think they're so far above. Hint: It doesn't have to do with big numbers.
@malevolent4945
@malevolent4945 Месяц назад
Hear me out: Don't pull for an entire year and we can save up all the jades to E6 a fate character
@tidus9942
@tidus9942 Месяц назад
Might be what I end up doing once I finish off getting my acheron and Firefly teams fully stacked after these couple banners. They can handle all content making most others easy skips unless someone comes along that can fit in their comps.
@snowleopy6378
@snowleopy6378 Месяц назад
Hopefully the Collab characters get treated like the ones in HI3 instead of like Aloy
@Ray-fh9ht
@Ray-fh9ht Месяц назад
​@@snowleopy6378 yeah that's why I am scared of saving for it
@The_CodFish69
@The_CodFish69 Месяц назад
Na skipping only like 4 patches with MP if not then 5 should be enough to get like 600 ish pulls that's enough for me...
@Yachii
@Yachii Месяц назад
Just save for e0s1 for everyone instead of e6 for 1 character. E6 removes the fun from the game, get e2 if you want.
@joeparas
@joeparas Месяц назад
Yessss, pump the Jiaoqiu slander into my veins. If enough people complain, they might actually revert his ridiculous nerfs on beta. It's honestly absurd at this point they'd nerf anything for 'balance' after releasing FF and Acheron...
@latitude990
@latitude990 Месяц назад
Imagine pulling for an Acheron support that's a sidegrade to a 4-star.........
@hypemaddox
@hypemaddox Месяц назад
Its not gonna happen bro
@dontusethesamenicknameonthenet
@dontusethesamenicknameonthenet Месяц назад
bro we aint chinese 💀 and as i saw they kinda dont care much abt jiaoqiu
@Radiant450
@Radiant450 Месяц назад
Crazy that there is only 4 (maybe 5) meta MALE characters in the game now, the rest have one mode or powercrept hard. Those are: DHIL (yeah he’s still strong and average MoC scores are pretty good) Boothill Aventurine Gallagher (soon out of the job with Lingsha I hear) Dr. Ratio ( even though I think boothill is the better hunt unit, Ratio is still alright bc of FuA team) JQ was supposed to add to this list, but instead only lists he’s making is units butchered by hoyo alongside Dehya.
@levi3248
@levi3248 Месяц назад
@@Radiant450boothill got powercrept by Firefly though
@dantez3600
@dantez3600 Месяц назад
I have no limited sustain, but I dont need HuoHuo. Gepard works great with Acheron and Gallagher works great with Firefly. Furthermore Lingsha is coming out. And if the leaks are correct, then not only will she be best in slot for firefly, but she would also be really good for acheron because Lingsha ult would apply toughness weakness debuff on all enemies.
@tipithedhedhistar4132
@tipithedhedhistar4132 Месяц назад
Yeah I would save Huo Huo isn’t bis on both of those teams
@kaanpai4319
@kaanpai4319 Месяц назад
We have Chinese Clara and 5-star Guinaifen. Not really that exiting tbh.
@daffy4525
@daffy4525 Месяц назад
Pokke making actual good content again???
@elementalz_z
@elementalz_z Месяц назад
Always has been bro🙏 8/10 rage bait
@aresxdlxix
@aresxdlxix Месяц назад
Yes we are back to pocket translating cn guides an reading it
@ymw1107
@ymw1107 Месяц назад
Literally your 2nd comment in this channel, if you wanna rage bait, try be better.
@OldSchoolMinded
@OldSchoolMinded Месяц назад
Harsh but not wrong. Channel felt pretty bad for awhile
@Kaien-qf6cr
@Kaien-qf6cr Месяц назад
Really ? Translate is good content ?
@BlueeCatss
@BlueeCatss Месяц назад
Failed to mention that Lingsha will be releasing literally a patch after HuoHuo, who is also a abundance unit who will proooobably unless Hoyo hates her be better than HuoHuo
@Adan.2005
@Adan.2005 Месяц назад
Well it's definitely not "better" is like the trinity of harmony, she serves another purpose, so it just depends on the archetype you use the most
@Minuey
@Minuey Месяц назад
I hate to say it... but even though Gallagher doesn't have anywhere near as powerful of a cleanse or healing kit as HuoHuo... he is arguably better than her when you put Gallagher in his best teams vs Huohuo in her best teams. HuoHuo is a lot more universal, and is way more friendly for people that lack 2 limited sustains. But, as far as ceilings go... Gallagher is absolutely better than Huohuo. I need to mention that I'm talking about E4 Gallagher HuoHuo in a lot of cases just ends up being "overkill", and usually anywhere between 30 - 70% of her healing ends up being wasted. Realistically, you should never die if you have all proper mainstats at +9 (let alone +15. I know because these are my builds for Aventurine and Huohuo, and I cleared C&G 12 and DU 6 like this). Gallagher is the perfect blend of being able to do ridiculous toughness damage, being the *best* SP generator in the game, being able to solo heal quite easily in the hardest gamemodes, and has a nice gameplay loop that isn't just a "press skill to win" button like Huohuo and Aventurine. The reason Gallagher is able to pull all of this off and generally doesn't have to worry about cleansing is simply because enemies are broken for a long time. Why heal or cleanse when enemies just... don't attack you? The stars seriously aligned for Gallagher. And yes, I'm not kidding about his SP generation. He is +1.2 SP per turn in an ideal scenario (and that scenario is easily achieved, even in MoC 12 and PF 4. Not so much AS 4). This is the absolute highest in the game. This is already better than Hanya, who is +1 per turn, and her kit was *designed* to be an SP generator. Sparkle is +.33 per turn. It's kind of sad lmao. Lingsha has such a ridiculous ceiling to break. I really badly hope it's not another "press skill to win" character
@Internextion
@Internextion Месяц назад
@@Minuey the issue is that superbreak is only one team, one that many (myself included) dont play. sure hes great in that team, but anywhere else he becomes a B tier at best unit. even aventurine, as good as he is, is only really valuable in follow up and acheron teams. anywhere else and his shield uptime isnt as good, his damage isnt as good, and he can only resist around 1/3rd of debuffs. huohuo is undoubtedly the best "universal" sustain, which is really valuable when people cant build specific archetypes like break/follow up (or simply dont want to).
@tardwrangler1019
@tardwrangler1019 Месяц назад
Ok you're talking out of your ass.​@@Internextion
@bepo1702
@bepo1702 Месяц назад
@@Internextion my aventurine has permanent shield uptime on any comp, your defense is just too low IG
@gem_ola6642
@gem_ola6642 Месяц назад
1 year for collab, time to save all the jades for the collab
@SillySkull
@SillySkull Месяц назад
As someone with only one limited sustain, I’ll be waiting for lingsha. But yunli lc looking real good for Clara
@thigarette
@thigarette Месяц назад
justice for jiaoqiu
@nathanbouma7559
@nathanbouma7559 Месяц назад
Yes, I will now be saving for e6 obsidian.
@ABC-yj6cy
@ABC-yj6cy Месяц назад
Yey sparkle! I can finally put her in my E2S1 acheron team
@Kerwell
@Kerwell Месяц назад
Yey sparkle! I can finally put her in my E6s1 acheron with E4S1 bronya team
@CMaxoknight31
@CMaxoknight31 Месяц назад
remember when he was basically a 2nd Ruan Mei? Good times
@Internextion
@Internextion Месяц назад
when the fuck was that
@Lazuley_
@Lazuley_ Месяц назад
ALL IN FOR LINGSHA
@tyrone6
@tyrone6 Месяц назад
I need a second sustain I only have fuxuan bailu,ghalager, lynx and gepard forr a second team i literally need a huohuo as a sustain and i just want sparkle😂
@captainp367
@captainp367 Месяц назад
Was gonna get acheron support...now not sure maybe will skip this patch Will see once creator server is out
@johnd7760
@johnd7760 Месяц назад
get acheron/sparkle Es instead
@zan1971
@zan1971 Месяц назад
How likely is it that they release another character like Sparkle who is also a SP printer? Because I feel like all CN players are really undervaluing that aspect of Sparkle. Even if her team comps are not meta, being able to give so much SP on demand can literally make the difference between a win and lose based on damage.
@boredperson1011
@boredperson1011 Месяц назад
real thats what im saying.. 4 SP in a single button is literally crazy and people also forget the team comp of Bronya and sparkle pushing 1 dps
@johnd7760
@johnd7760 Месяц назад
they do cause they care abt 0 cl, her lunae team is still her strongest for non hardcore players that wanna get the job done .even in pf, in no sustain teams with dual dmg dealers, her sp gen is no joke.
@osmano8498
@osmano8498 Месяц назад
Well.. your team is supposed to be synergistic enough that you won't run into SP issues to begin with.
@boredperson1011
@boredperson1011 Месяц назад
@@osmano8498 But the thing is, That can limit you and ur units, So by using sparkle you can use many SP negative units together, And some have a higher SP consume like QQ and Lunae
@osmano8498
@osmano8498 Месяц назад
@@boredperson1011 That doesn't matter if you're not getting higher DPS though.
@tartaglialuvsbunscheshire9949
@tartaglialuvsbunscheshire9949 Месяц назад
All I know he's Kazuhas va and enough said, the same thing was said about Kazuha , idk ... ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉😊😊😊 ... Good luck everyone if you're pulling
@MrFirecam
@MrFirecam Месяц назад
A clara 2.0 and a random npc, easy skip.
@arionmoschetta
@arionmoschetta Месяц назад
No team really NEED HuoHuo. She just spend too many skill points to maintain her buffs, she's not worth at all. Forget those fucking tierlist, Lingsha will be much better than HuoHuo in every way possible, her rerun now is totally a trap
@GodofGoblins
@GodofGoblins Месяц назад
If someone is using huo huo properly, they shouldn't be spending too many skill points. That's a skill issue. I run her on my dot team all the time for moc, and she is almost always sp neutral. High level apocalyptic shadow? Yeah she struggles a bit, but in general she is solid. Lingsha looks to be strong for break effect squads too. Awesome, but if she doesn't provide energy or damage like huo huo, as well as being best cleanser in the game, then they will have separate niches. Time will tell though.
@3.16music
@3.16music Месяц назад
Preach brother 🙏
@arionmoschetta
@arionmoschetta Месяц назад
@@GodofGoblins whatever you say
@GodofGoblins
@GodofGoblins Месяц назад
@arionmoschetta just keeping it real. I know it's tough on ego when it's a skill issue, but it is what it is. I didn't properly use seele back in the day and thought she was bad. No, she is fantastic. That was a skill issue on my part. If your using a lot of sp with huo huo, that's on you. Gotta keep it real
@justmega9569
@justmega9569 21 день назад
Shes really good with specifically Yunli, but that's because she checks like... every box Yunli needs
@Hiro016
@Hiro016 Месяц назад
Hypercarry not being as relevant as it was before, should have absolutely no impact on Sparkle's rating in hypercarry, because the point of rating her in hypercarry is to assess her efficiency there, not how often hypercarry is used in general. Plus, there are more hypercarry teams and variants than there are DoT/FuA comps (+ Acheron).
@user-gs8bz2yt9n
@user-gs8bz2yt9n Месяц назад
sparkle carrying this patch ngl
@darkgrundi9543
@darkgrundi9543 Месяц назад
With the decline of Hypercarry she doesn't carry anything. This is a low income patch. Hoyo decided to not want money in August and September.
@keneunaegbu851
@keneunaegbu851 Месяц назад
Heavily. Going for her S1
@littleswansplaygrownd6817
@littleswansplaygrownd6817 Месяц назад
​@@darkgrundi9543still the best support for Acheron(even if Acheron is e0) and Acheron is still the "best" DPS in the game. FF comes very close though.
@StarRailingYourMum
@StarRailingYourMum Месяц назад
Might have to pull for Sparkle. I don't care about Huo Huo...my top teams use Acheron & Firefly
@user-xu5lr9jw3j
@user-xu5lr9jw3j Месяц назад
Huo Huo still more valuable to pull tho. While Sparkle can just be used with other harmony or other nihility for Acheron team. Sparkle becoming a niche harmony just like the cn value her at 9/10 for hypercarry and 1/10 for FUA, DoT and Break teams. People might rather use other harmony as they are really versatile and can be played with other teams.
@darkgrundi9543
@darkgrundi9543 Месяц назад
@@user-xu5lr9jw3j Linsha will be better than Huo Huo. She is just bait.
@biohazard0119
@biohazard0119 Месяц назад
Jiaoqui can heal the enemy and I would still pull for him !
@BZUltimix
@BZUltimix Месяц назад
Sparkledust stole all 69 of my pulls back in Feburary, so I will be hard skipping her to make her regret, then pull her next year for forgiveness ✨🗿
@justjuniorjaw
@justjuniorjaw Месяц назад
Do note that Patch 2.5 will end early. Why? We don't really know, aside from the date being 9/11 if it wasn't a day early.
@Frallicus
@Frallicus Месяц назад
2.4* and yes, should be because of 9/11 since typically tragic historical events stall things a bit. I believe Yunli's drip marketing got delayed a day due to the Tiananmen Square Tragedy
@thefakeslimshady6969
@thefakeslimshady6969 Месяц назад
This is a good time for me to get Sparkle and I'll not let this opportunity pass by
@conquerofdemon5339
@conquerofdemon5339 Месяц назад
Behold the mighty cake of zhu yuan behind him
@mikeviray6152
@mikeviray6152 Месяц назад
even before i knew the reruns i was planning this patch to be a SKIP Patch and now with both new characters Nerfed and became somewhat "MID" this just solidifies that my decision to skip everything this patch even more
@senioralexander6681
@senioralexander6681 Месяц назад
Yunli got buffed by nearly 15% for v1 and became T0 dps what you talking about
@mikeviray6152
@mikeviray6152 Месяц назад
@@senioralexander6681 dude its v3 now its almost the final version they rearranged her some of her traces/eidolons(forgot exactly) and lowered most damage % she became a spammer more than a heavy hitter
@deftabyss280
@deftabyss280 Месяц назад
So no hate to any of the characters, Yunli for physical floors and dont have Clara still a solid pick up. Huohuo isnt really needed too much, still the best healer and bis for the DoT team. Jiaoqiu- while not as bad as people are doompostingabout, outside of Acheron and maybe DoT teams you can probably fill his role with someone else. Still pretty solid if youre looking for a limited Nihility, but a side grade if you do have some in your collection Sparkle, Id argue is probably the most value here or if you have her probably pick up her LC instead.
@Gurenn83
@Gurenn83 Месяц назад
My Acheron is E2/S1 already (for $250 because I lost 50/50 twice in classic Hoyoverse fashion) and she is so busted with Sparkle, Pela and Gepard. Adding in Jiaoqiu will just improve the performance by a very mininal amount. 2.4 is an easy skip for me since I am still building relics for some of the recent 5 stars I got.
@deldalus
@deldalus Месяц назад
going to pull Yunli anyway but my sustain are full of Preservation (FX, Aven, Gepard) so they might overlap Yunli in for enemy aggro (when she's not on ult)... I don't have HuoHuo so perhaps I also need to pull for her. problem is, I have about 20 pulls rn + estimate 60 pulls from first half, in next 10 pull I'm going to get guarantee Yunli so that's leave me about 70 pulls(?) available to try luck on HuoHuo OR LC for Yunli to seal her deal when pair with preservation unit... I wonder which one should I try luck with.
@emilythedragon
@emilythedragon Месяц назад
I'll throw a coinflip on HuoHuo, but otherwise saving for Acheron rerun to get E2. Can't justify spending resources on Jiaoqiu for an Acheron boost when I could just invest that in Acheron herself
@gabriele4920
@gabriele4920 Месяц назад
Been waiting for this
@Master_at_Baiting
@Master_at_Baiting Месяц назад
I honestly think that this patch is just not good. Huohuo is arguably still great and honestly the most valuable character to get if you don't have a healer or shielder but not really worth it if you already have a good healer/shielder. Jiaoqui is not worth it anymore due to all his nerfs and the healing ability being scrapped for some reason when lore wise he is a healer but now doesn't heal. Sparkle is Sparkle, a good value character that pretty much works in any team but can totally be skipped. Then Yunli is literately just Clara but stronger and better.
@raifu_chan
@raifu_chan Месяц назад
i'm planning on pulling huohuo for my dot team to increase damage but im not quite sure, i have fu xuan and gepard and have also built gallagher for firefly. gepard and gallagher dont seem to perform as well as fu xuan in moc. i have e1 black swan and her sig lc so i dont need to pull during her rerun. idk if i should pull for huohuo or not
@DarthDionius
@DarthDionius Месяц назад
Sparkle's the only must pull here if you don't have her. I think CN slightly undersold it with the 9/10, there will always be more hypercarry units coming out in the future. Hell, even Yunli will actually quite like Sparkle, much moreso than Clara, due to the heal on her skill and the reliance on the ult taunt. If you don't have Sparkle and you skip, I think that's a very short-sighted move.
@winningsonn
@winningsonn Месяц назад
Not really a must pull. Even bronya ruanmei is enough for hypercarry. Or tingyun ruanmei for clara yunli comps. Counter mechanics dont even need action advance
@DarthDionius
@DarthDionius Месяц назад
@@winningsonn Just because Clara and Yunli both have counter mechanics doesn't mean they both want all the same supports. Yunli wants more speed than Clara because her skill is her sustainability, and because more skills = more ults = more taunts. Clara benefits from a couple of turns of increased aggro after an ult. A taunt, on the other hand, only lasts one enemy action, so refreshing it more often is very important, which means speed has value. Sparkle is a great source of hypercarry speed, she provides all the stats you'll want on Yunli and allows more SP hungry supports. Her skill buffs also last to the target's next turn, unlike Bronya, making her way better for counter characters.
@Cuddle_with_Furina
@Cuddle_with_Furina Месяц назад
Bronya & Sparkle also work well together . I have Bronya E2S1 . Just play break , DOT or mix of both on second side .
@winningsonn
@winningsonn Месяц назад
@@DarthDionius Ok,first of all im not saying sparkle is bad, im just saying bronya/ruanmei is 'enough' for hypercarry so sparkle is definitely 'not a must' pull. Tingyun/ruanmei on a hypercarry teams can perform just as well as a team with sparkle in it. And depends on how u build ur tingyun, u can keep ur clara/yunli ult with 100% uptime. And with more meta like dot/break/fua. u'll need her less. Imo better save those pulls for a more versatile support.
@anonnymus6355
@anonnymus6355 Месяц назад
@@winningsonn Ruan mei isn't actually needed for break teams because technically another option is ''enough'' and so on and so forth, No unit in the game is a must pull when all modes can be cleared with 4 stars, But for those who care about overall account value ''must pull'' can kind of be applied and in this case, She would be one.
@Stawrfish
@Stawrfish Месяц назад
im having a hard time deciding, should i pull Jiaoqiu for my acheron so i can replace guinaifen, or pull for sparkle
@Goatmilkmoment
@Goatmilkmoment Месяц назад
if you’re using e2 acheron then you should use pela and pull for sparkle and put her on the team, sparkle>jiao on e2 ach team in terms of damage boosting, but if it’s e0 then might be more worth to replace gui wifth jiao
@Xariona
@Xariona Месяц назад
I don't like the fact that Yunli's parry state only lasts for one counter attack
@BelanTatakae
@BelanTatakae Месяц назад
Why it does more than enough dmg to compensate
@jeanpierrelizarraga539
@jeanpierrelizarraga539 Месяц назад
Thx bro for this vídeo
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 Месяц назад
I think CN rating sustains if you already have 2 as 1/10 kinda not right at this point in the game when Gallagher and Aventurine can bring so much dmg to their niche and can take advantage of specialist buffs Hoyo loves to do can result in even bigger gains improving team performance overall. Its something to keep in mind as new sustains seem to be bringing lots of value even if you owned Luocha and Fu Xuan as your first two limited sustains.
@tidus9942
@tidus9942 Месяц назад
yea, wonder what they will say about Lingsha as she will be basically a Nihility breaker/ sustain in one. Gallager is already a BiS for Firefly and she is going to be even better.
@kennethyoung7457
@kennethyoung7457 Месяц назад
@@tidus9942 Yeah when Gallagher was the most used sustain in Apcalyptic Shadow even over all the technically better limited ones because he is fire break unit I don't think you can say sustain slot is interchangeable as CN is making it sound. The right sustain can drastically change the outcome of a battle.
@mikazakhaev5011
@mikazakhaev5011 Месяц назад
i think the standard for a built non-healer in CN is just higher. like, Gallagher can save you 1 cycle but they're clearing just fine without his extra damage anyway. and people don't use sustain in 0-cycles anyway. ​@@kennethyoung7457
@oIIified
@oIIified Месяц назад
​@@tidus9942 It's going to be the same situation as with Jiaoqiu, she'll probably be ~15% better than C6 Gallagher lmfao. You can only buff an already broken unit so much
@theteamxxx3142
@theteamxxx3142 Месяц назад
@@oIIified i mean they can buff her if they then start releasing powercreeps of acherons and FF which will happen
@statesminds
@statesminds Месяц назад
Huohuo is one of my favorite sustains ive pulled. I actually really like Yunli but wish Feixeo and other units im interested in werent coming up
@LucasFernandez-tr3oq
@LucasFernandez-tr3oq Месяц назад
Im between e1 sparkle or e1 huo huo, its either get the 40% attk or the speed buff, i donr know which one to get. If someone can help me pls
@SigeVV
@SigeVV Месяц назад
I do think 40% more atk is more valuable if you are using acheron or dhil as they can just get their turns with sparkle skill but if you are running something like dotcheron the speed buff is better because in this case your sparkle is just collecting dust in your inventory
@Fang727
@Fang727 Месяц назад
imo heavily depends on your teams, but personally i would choose e1 huohuo especially if i am running her in a dot team where i really want the SP for kafka/blackswan or even in a jingliu comp with bronya
@Tiasung
@Tiasung Месяц назад
40% atk isnt as universal. I dont know the specifics on the speed buff so not sure on that one. My advice is, if you arent sure about the benefit of Eidolons, dont pull for them. Some are stupid strong but others just arent worth it, and its better to make a choice if you are absolutely sure they will be amazing otherwise you will end up regretting.
@sunnyhelloguy
@sunnyhelloguy Месяц назад
E1 huo huo for sp definitely
@shimmering17.
@shimmering17. Месяц назад
I’m not gonna lie, huohuo has lost a lot of value (i speak as an e1 huehue haver) with the current meta being break and acheron, her buffs don’t do much for them and there are better sustains for both of those teams though she’s still amazing if you use teams like jingliu, argenti and dot (there are other teams i forgot 😂)
@sinisin2000
@sinisin2000 Месяц назад
As of right now my priority is Huo Huo because she fills a gap on my teams but boy oh boy do I want Feixiao. Hoping my plans don't mess up those pulls.
@SHAJ33
@SHAJ33 Месяц назад
im using Lucha and E6 Galager right now as my sustains... should i think about pulling huo-huo for my kafka team or nah? my main comps are DOT, firefly super break, and Jing liu atm
@Goatmilkmoment
@Goatmilkmoment Месяц назад
huohuo would definitely be the play for dot, gallagher is good for the break and luocha for jingliu, so if u want to complete the dot team then u could get her if u want, but if ur doing fine without her then u could skip I wouldn’t know what’s it’s like without huohuo because I’ve had her since release but if ur chilling then don’t feel pressured to pull
@insertnamehere2022
@insertnamehere2022 Месяц назад
Returning playing that only played 1.3, def pulling for huohuo as my second premium sustain (my other is FuXuan) and getting sparkle for my DHIL everyone in the comments saving for fate collab lol
@TheWoodcookie
@TheWoodcookie Месяц назад
I really was hoping Black swan was this patch. Now, i might talk myself into huo huo E1 or Lc and I know I dont need it but gonna be a hard half to ignore. Sparkle LC makes her a pseudo dual buffer with the cr and cdmg buffs
@j0hnnyblade
@j0hnnyblade Месяц назад
characters like Clara and Yunli get stronger and more relevant the more speedier enemies become and the more they advance themselves. By them releasing a character like that, we can be absolutely sure Borisin and those IPC wolf bots will benefit a kit like hers = which also means Clara will be in her element as well. If Yunli cone is good that is 100% upgrade for Clara, which I hope that it is. After all, getting Clara eidolons is kind of impossible
@LawyerLawliet
@LawyerLawliet Месяц назад
I would love if there was a section about lightcones aswell!
@Nero-hm1gi
@Nero-hm1gi Месяц назад
still annoying to see Yunli just being a copy past plus upgrades to clara at least when you do something let me be able to run them together as a Counter attack team (my dream team since the Game start) with no anti synergies (the aggro), but nah Clara is too f2p I still use her to clear content and probably the reason why they try to replace her. Currently, only plan to grab her lc for clara then saving for bs e1 or go full in feixiao and maybe a copy of lingsha depends on if she is good outside of break teams
@flakey9155
@flakey9155 Месяц назад
huohuo is useless with archeron and firefly. biggest negative
@thepiggstein
@thepiggstein Месяц назад
I get why you have to do it, but this silly act where you have to pretend no-one knows the units’ multipliers but somehow we can make precise value judgements about their strength and place in the meta is rather absurd.
@UltimateAnimeGuru
@UltimateAnimeGuru Месяц назад
What’s with these Physical Destruction characters being children with no shoes? 🤨
@bjornnilsson2941
@bjornnilsson2941 Месяц назад
The only thing that would have made me pull Jiaoqiu would be if he was a solo sustain Pela+, which is what leaks suggested back around Acheron’s release. I guess it would just be too good especially for E0 Acheron who could then fulfill her passive with a harmony and sustain. Guess we’ll never get that unit and E0 Acher will instead fall off earlier than she needed to, sad.
@johnd7760
@johnd7760 Месяц назад
they werent even leaks, just assumptions. same with new units' info...people believe in any bit of info they see months ago from a units' reloease, it's crazy..
@Adan.2005
@Adan.2005 Месяц назад
​​@@johnd7760what makes me upset is that bro is the only canonical healer that doesn't heal
@bjornnilsson2941
@bjornnilsson2941 Месяц назад
@@johnd7760 It must be more than assumptions since they had quite a lot of info that they got right about the characters. Obviously kits change from first iteration to release, but that's a total overhaul / nerf. Now he's just the easiest skip of all time. I would have pulled Acheron regardless, but I guess it's good to know for the future to never assume a character will be anything like early leaks suggest.
@johnd7760
@johnd7760 Месяц назад
@@Adan.2005 yeah i saw that lol
@johnd7760
@johnd7760 Месяц назад
@@bjornnilsson2941 idk abt that, even the debuff was named "flavor" in that sheet which was changed but i get what u mean. by saying "would've pulled acheron regardless" u mean, u saw that before her release? interesting, way way earlier than beta leaks so yeah.. dont forget poor screwlum and his alleged kit and release months ago, as well😅 whats funny, is ppl were stuck with that kit info till now, and even askin in discord "if hes enough as solo sustain" lol.. feixiao has multiple pages with different info these past weeks😂
@meadowinghorrors
@meadowinghorrors Месяц назад
I'm skipping everyone for a e2 s1 acheron. Her playstyle fits me very well and I already have an e2 bronya so I mind as well out her to good use. After that i'll probably wait for sparkle or another good harmony unit/unit in general that synergizes even better with her.
@danusorn8655
@danusorn8655 Месяц назад
Jingyuan is still used in ALL modes for me and I love him for that ❤❤
@ricmramos
@ricmramos Месяц назад
Nah not gona pull huehue when a new 5 star healer coming next patch...
@inumaki3622
@inumaki3622 Месяц назад
I alreavy have Aventurine and Fu Xuan but Huohuo it's so cute, I would actually pull for her just for the design lol
@user-xu5lr9jw3j
@user-xu5lr9jw3j Месяц назад
Wow sparkle becoming a niche harmony only hypercarry team 9/10 and other like FUA, DoT and Break just 1/10. Damn, Sparkle could never be.
@adamt0610
@adamt0610 Месяц назад
imagine jiaoqiu was ANY other element, making a dot character fire immediately makes me think he'll be a not so good unit. i thought he'd be a wind type first time i saw him, rly unfortunate
@edabb5321
@edabb5321 Месяц назад
we already have 2 wind DoT lol
@adamt0610
@adamt0610 Месяц назад
@@edabb5321 well that's not rly my point, black swan doesn't even count cuz she applies arcana not wind shear
@edabb5321
@edabb5321 Месяц назад
@@adamt0610 arcana = DoT aka wind shear ^^
@twistedsword8612
@twistedsword8612 23 дня назад
Picked up HuoHuo and Yunli myself (Built Yunli hyper) as for the rest of the patch, I have E3 Sparkle and dont want the other units so its a skip for them.
@The_CodFish69
@The_CodFish69 Месяц назад
Welp after the nuclear lvl nerfs 2 Jia i was planning on skipping 2.4 but they went and added Sparkle as a rerun Really i lost my OG 50/50 on her then i saved that guarantee into Acheron because i wanted her more but IDK what to do lol...
@Rayne-ih5yf
@Rayne-ih5yf Месяц назад
E2 sparkle is the only reason I'm pulling here
@holywitch13
@holywitch13 Месяц назад
I really needed HuoHuo and Sparkle signature, but well, Feixiao drip marketing dropped
@Grayewicked
@Grayewicked Месяц назад
Conclusion: Save up for Elio
@Duskyming160
@Duskyming160 Месяц назад
All I have is Natasha, Gallagher, and Lynx as my sustain. Should I pull for the limited sustain banner or sparkle? Also Dan Heng is my only dps. I’m an F2P player that started 1 week ago.
@sirsuntar8717
@sirsuntar8717 Месяц назад
I've been playing since christmas, never felt I needed a limited sustain. Been doing just fine with E0 Gepard, E6 Lynx and now E6 Gallagher. Granted, there have been times when I had to restart MOC a couple of times until I got a decent clear, but most of the time I feel like I'm lacking damage, not sustain. All three of them have kept me alive for 10+ cycles in MOC 12, which is about twice as long as a 3* clear takes. I'd say get strong Harmony buffers or Nihility debuffers first and snatch the first broken dps that comes around and fits your account. Only pull for sustain if you really like them or they benefit your team massively on top of keeping you alive. I.E Aventurine for Follow-up or Houhou for DOT.
@grtwo_echidna
@grtwo_echidna Месяц назад
I always call huohuo the effect res harmony
@DJungleskoggs
@DJungleskoggs Месяц назад
I was hoping for blackswan cuz I wanted to build a dot team but sparkles a good replacement
@darkgrundi9543
@darkgrundi9543 Месяц назад
Black Swan will very likely come in 2.5, you might want to wait until the 2.5 livestream before spending jades on sparkle.
@DJungleskoggs
@DJungleskoggs Месяц назад
@@darkgrundi9543 yeah i probably will do that cuz if i pull for sparkle my ruan mei would go into retirement
@Adan.2005
@Adan.2005 Месяц назад
​@@DJungleskoggsyou don't have a break/dot team?
@DJungleskoggs
@DJungleskoggs Месяц назад
@@Adan.2005no but I want to build one also don’t have e4 sampo which is rough and only have E6 Luka and E2 guinafein
@rexy773
@rexy773 Месяц назад
I really agree with the thought about HuoHuo if your sustain can sustain your team it'll be better to Gacha your support or DPS eidolon, I also never Gacha another sustainer after I have Luocha and FX bcs they can sustain my team. I just gonna wait for Emanator of Abundance and Preservation if they playable 🤣
@rona0427
@rona0427 Месяц назад
NUCLEAR SKIP PATCH
@hanafia9533
@hanafia9533 Месяц назад
Probably the only patch that the reruns outshine the new characters
@sabotagge9155
@sabotagge9155 Месяц назад
Jiaoqiu its so fucking mid. Why cant they make debuffers as good a buffers? People complained that he was a toy only for Acheron after the last nerf hes not even that. With how spensive units are and the fast power creep Im going to save my pulls for something else if he isnt buffed at last moment. Also he looks like an NPC.
@Shin-gn7ng
@Shin-gn7ng Месяц назад
For me, it depends on the rerun banners of the next patch, it the next one patch has Acheron or feixiao lives up to the Acheron hype then I’ll indeed skip, if not then I’ll pull jiaoqu with one 10pull
@Lumiphatom
@Lumiphatom Месяц назад
One thing you were wrong about was is Yunli not having a "BIS" comp. Sparkle's Buff is specifically meant for Hypercarry FU teams and High skill usage teams. Yunli/Tingyun/Sparkle/HuoHuo is an insanely good comp for her. They even had to nerf here because she was as strong as Acheron.
@gerry4181
@gerry4181 Месяц назад
My team currently is E2S1 Acheron, SW, E1S1 Sparkle and E0S1 Fu Xuan, should I still pull for Jiaoqiu? Or is E2 Sparkle better?
@KinqTV
@KinqTV Месяц назад
I have the exact same team, I will get E2 sparkle
@psssh.8514
@psssh.8514 Месяц назад
imo not worth it your acheron is already E2S1 doing ridiculous damage every turn. he probably would up grade your damage but by how much? 10%? 15%? then outside of that team hes just dogshit everywhere else? i would never pull, just me though
@Radiant450
@Radiant450 Месяц назад
Yeah just E2 your Sparkle man, I have E2 acheron too (who’s kinda benched rn crazy I know) and may or may not E2 my sparkle, but the def ignore from E2 sparkle is great bc it adds on with the def shred from your SW (or pela), JQ may help you if you wanna use a non DoTcheron team in PF, but outside of that? Not that big of an upgrade thats worth 80+ pulls.
@harryfox3681
@harryfox3681 Месяц назад
JQ is significant for e2 acheron. He is a bigger upgrade for the team then sparkle e2. if you want to make your acheron team better you absolutely pull JQ. He is a bigger increase to acheron then Ruan mei is for alot of teams that people had no problem pulling her for. You clearly like acheron so pulling him for her shouldnt be something holding you back.
@greenvega
@greenvega Месяц назад
He will be good only in pf, with herta shop lc he is best option, outside of pf he mid, so up to u to waste jades for char for one gamemode
@Gerafix
@Gerafix Месяц назад
I don't have any Physical DPS so I really want to get Yunli, also her design animation is pretty good. Hard decisions ahead. Anybody else no Physical DPS looking to pull Yunli?
@fvieira2003
@fvieira2003 Месяц назад
I pray for the day of the Hypercarry's return! I Love Jingliu and Sparkle, but compared to Acheron + Black Swan + Pela, it's just not worth... I like Fua Comps and DoT (Kafka + Black Swan), but i still prefer 1 HyperCarry + 2 Harmony + 1 Sustain (I used to pick Jingliu + Bronya + Sparkle + Fu Xuan / Jingliu + Sparkle + Huohuo + Fu Xuan) I miss it
@TheDendra
@TheDendra Месяц назад
damn... i'll quit that game because i can't get Jiaoqiu and Huohuo at the same time :(
@stewie_
@stewie_ Месяц назад
Since I have Sparkle and don't need a sustain or premium Clara, this will be the easiest skip.
@QuebecoisModerne
@QuebecoisModerne Месяц назад
Is sparkle still good with E0S1 Acheron even if she’s not nihility? She’s my fav character so I want her but at the same time the character I use right now are Dots,Firefly and Acheron… I kinda benched IL 🥲
@hafidzmursyidi4429
@hafidzmursyidi4429 Месяц назад
better pull jiaoqiou if e0s1 acheron. Even you benched IL because sparkle not as good as other 5 star harmony. Better save of pull jiaoqiu if you wanna improve your Acheron team.
@Andrei-te1pk
@Andrei-te1pk Месяц назад
Skip, all are mid, o would have pulled for huohuo but i will pull for lingshao is she is a game breaker if not imma stick with gallagher, this patch is the most easy to save jades for me after spending non stop for the last 4 patches
@IdeasAreBulletproof
@IdeasAreBulletproof Месяц назад
Going to go for Yunli, as I do like her Counter FUA playstyle, (It is like Clara's counters but she fixes some of the Problems Clara had, and she has Argentisan's Ult Gauge just instead you can Ult 2 times, Jiaoqiu is an insanely Easy Skip, I actually was thinking of Skipping Yunli (When I didn't know anything about when she was Dripped) but wanted Jiaoqiu for my Acheron but also wanted a Versatile Upgrade to Pela/Sw. Jiaoqiu turned out Niche for Acheron then DOT, then got nerfed in his Niche for Acheron teams. He's a Easy skip, Feixiao's probably going to be a Special hunt unit in the Modern meta, Like Seele was in the beginning of the game (Not exactly the same as Seele) but you see what I mean. Not really that interested in her, I do like Lingsha's design though I do feel Sufficent with my Sustains. After Yunli, while Picking up some Characters along the way I Intend to save for 3.0, Not Nesscarily for the Fate collab itself, though I do intend to have some disposable Stellar Jades for that Collab, because like event Lightcones, It would be nice having a Piece of that Collab (Rather it be the Character/LC/Etc) on my Account, even though I have never watched the Fate series.
@ngoquan2205
@ngoquan2205 Месяц назад
I think follow up like ratio or blade, especially xueyi would love sparkle
@michaelyang838
@michaelyang838 Месяц назад
Also for HH, pullers beware do not say I didn’t warn you. She is a strong unit with major drawbacks that will make you feel bad. 1. SP, if you run rm esp with lc in dot team, irrelevant concern, but with FF, rm might already be somewhere else. Now what?If you use her with a slightly tight team, you are screwed. You’ll know it’s shit when you auto on Kafka 2. Passive healing, in reg content you can skip healing in favor of sp with little drawback. But why don’t you try that in apocalyptic shadows 😊. Those hh copers, how many pts did you get? How many retries? Bottom line is that HH players value her ceiling over comfort. I’m not gonna say it’s wrong, but personally I’m busy. That 10 second longer run is not worth all the annoyance and scuffed runs. If you are a whale get e1s1, now she no longer has any problems. Hyv made her as a p2w character.
@leoneldavid1976
@leoneldavid1976 Месяц назад
Personally, I’m going to go for Yunli, since I’m at 77 pity with a 50/50; and if I get her, nice, but if I don’t, I’ll just save for Feixiao and/or Lingsha :))
@XMS1212X
@XMS1212X Месяц назад
Listen I’ve skipped patches especially anything with DOT, and I got an e2 firefly, and she destroys, it’s worth saving your jades especially if you’re mostly clearing content
@zaktubitax5029
@zaktubitax5029 Месяц назад
Just putting this here...I'm pulling Yunli cuz she's a second Clara...putting the two in a team and you don't even need the infinity stones
@marcusbullock2753
@marcusbullock2753 Месяц назад
Saving for wind Fox chick. None of these characters seem that crazy times
@Kaoz007full
@Kaoz007full Месяц назад
Im going full Sparkle
@Pulak518
@Pulak518 Месяц назад
I’m honestly thinking of pulling for yunli’s lc for a Clara upgrade
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