Is this THE BEST Budget Backpack?! (And how to choose the best) 

Very cool! Would you have used it again?

@@DanBecker that's a big yes.

Dan Becker my husband is looking into a Kelty backpack do you know anything about them?

@@DanBecker it's the pack I have and I love it. I think it's light enough and sturdier than some dynema

I have the 38L version my scale shows it at 31.2 ounces. I’ve had for a couple years and it’s my go to. Highly recommend it.

where ? on ebay? im looking for gently used

Fb market

I can't physically drink that much 😂

Maybe if I was still in my 20's.

Am 13 but ok

I just woke up from a 10 month coma after reading this comment and watching 3 minutes of the video

Just ordered mine from Drop yesterday...excited to try it out!

Wow! I’ll check it out!

Pea green?😳thats a first but i like it! 🤗😂😂

You’re gonna love it!

as a tour guide here in Australia and hike with people who may be buying their first gear, this is invaluable advice! ^^

The rook 50 is garbage

he looks like he’s 210...

100-150 is cheap in the backpacking world. Anything for less than that will fall apart on you.

@@YourMom-cu8yt yeah if your backpack falls apart on the trail you're screwed lol.

150$ is cheap for something that you use for your safety.

As long as people pay it and believe it's "cheap", the prices will never drop

That is quite cheap when relating to gear. If u want a great price good quality backpack check out granite gear. That might be ur level. Out door gear is not cheap it's just not. If u buy cheap ur gonna suffer. No way around it. It's not the youtubers fault for not showing cheap gear. It just doesn't exist unless u want an Amazon fall apart piece of gear. Maybe backpacking isn't a good hobby to follow if that is expensive to the person. I drop 600$ a month roughly sometimes and often less but roughly. I use hilleberg tents and high-end gear and I'm poverty level. A person has to decide priorities and if gear isn't a certain level of priority then the person will regret on trail. There is a huge difference from a jansport pack and a backpacking pack . It's sad that gear has to cost so much but it does. It's not a cheap hobby. But either is a sport like hockey or football or performing art's. . Activities cost. It seems like so many people wanna enjoy without the dedication and price of admittance . If a 150$ is crazy money I'm not sure what to say. It's great to be money conscious but don't people want the pleasure of something nice. It's not loui votton. It's just a 200 and up piece of gear. And over time u add to it not all in one Monty. I have 6 tents now. Thousands of bucks but it took time. Saving and time. Priorities and time. I hope u cannot be offended but just understand that hobbies cost alot sports cost alot. Nothing is free. I hope I get rich one day and for u the same so money is not a worry!! Good luck!!!! Be well.!

fc defenitely more comfortable than crown

Not being able to reach the water bottles with it on is the one constant I have in the negative column for this pack. Agree

is it 300$ now?

I second this. My pack is an amber and it serves me well

Just searched them up on amazon and they are literally identical to the Hyperlite lmao. But thanks for the comment, I was looking for a starter pack.

@@purplemonkeys11, I think it might be cheaper to buy them from Aliexpress, but the shipping costs might be different. You can compare them and pick the cheaper option.

Yeah going for Aliexpress and total cost will be 92.58 with tax/shipping included. I hope that the quality will be at least ok. I would hate to wait a month and upon arrival the product is absolute garbage.

@@purplemonkeys11, that's the cheapest model which you're supposed to use a foam folding sleeping pad as the "frame" right? That's an awesome model, especially if you're significantly taller than 170cm. I don't use foam sleeping pads, plus I'm quite small for a guy, so it doesn't fit me properly, but I removed the foam pads from the side pouches and stacked them in the base back net to create a gap. I get problems when the pack isn't fully loaded up, like when my food supply runs down, then I can't pull on the load lifters because they are already fully utilized. I have to fill the pack up more vertically, so I use 2 long velcro straps around the lower and upper sections of the pack to strap the contents in place. Still a great cheap pack.

@@jdshl8423 Great to hear! Yeah, the foam mat frame is actually my biggest concern, through my backpacking trips I couldn't stand a foam pad. I will see how it feels backpacking without one and if worst comes I might find some cheap padding to fill for support. There's someone on Aliexpress saying how the cinch cords were basically useless and it broke for him in his second hike. Hopefully that wont be me lol.

I got the drop XC version also and got a nylofume liner from garage gear to line it. I replaced my Osprey Stratos 50. Very happy so far.

Warmlite and Hilleberg make four season tents. The Akto is a solo shelter which has very little ventilation, so it works best in the winter. Warmlite out of Colorado makes custom tents. With side windows and awnings it might be the lightest and most versatile mountaineering tent. Seek Outside, also in Colorado, makes DCF and silnylon tents with optional inserts. You could probably customize the insert to make the tent a true four season tent. Oh, they also make titanium wood stoves for hot tent camping.

@@danielkutcher5704 And they are great shelters but there not Ultralight... Blessings

😂

I was car camping at that point.

@@DanBecker Fair point. I'll be in Door County at the end of July, beginning of August still, no jeans for me. I'll probably overheat, lol.

Maybe just 'watch' the video, not 'disect' the video....geesh.......from what I can tell, he is talking about backpacks....not outdoor fashion....

Disregard. After only 4 overnight trips, the Klymit Motion 60 had structural failures so bad I had to return it to CostCo.

I kindoff agree with you, but there is a gain you are missing I think --> food carrying capacity. What does the average starting kit weigh? 3kg tent, 3kg pack (60-80litre), 2kg sleepsystem, lotsoff tidbits.... Trailweight easily adds up to over 20 kilo's for a weeklong trip. The heavier packs can handle that but whether your body can as well is a good question. Mine could when I was 24, not much now that I'm 36. Obviously these lighter packs and the lighter setups can help here, easily allowing you to ditch 8 kilo's. But there's the question of how much food you can bring. In my experience these cheaper backpacks don't really allow you to carry those 30-35 pound weights they are speced at, so when you lighten up but don't want to break the bank, you will be hardpressed to get more then 4 days worth of food with you. Excellent for weekend warriors such as Dan, but a section hiker will either want a higher carrying capacity, lighten up even more or both. The only reason for Dan to bring the expensive backpack features in this video is because he brings camera gear and needs a backpack with a better suspension system. Should he want to do longer hikes, with the cameragear, or hike in an area where water is scarce, he might want to shed more weight or pick a heavier pack. But that last one is only an option when his knees can take it. So there's definitely a purpose to shaving off a couple of hundered grams, despite the cost, when that allows you an additional day of hiking. I've had trips where I was overburdened during that first day and it was miserable. There's usually a threshold you don't want to cross and while that differs from person to person, it's a very fine line for everyone where you suddenly find yourself in that "omg, what just happened" after (re)filling those waterbottles.

@@HerrFinsternis I think you pretty much got it right it comes down to preference and I guess also what your'e used to. I don't have the kind of money to continuously buy new gear so I usually carefully pick what I want and then I'm gonna use it until it's broken or obsolete. That means I'm going to buy the most functional gear at the lightest weight which is just what most people do. It's just that some folks out there keep spending money to shave off some weight just because some new lighter gear came out. If I had more money maybe I'd do it too though not going to lie about that. 😆

@@drraventlwml indeed, it's really easy to get swept away by gearenvy and toss a lot of money around without real reason. I've been working from home most of the time since covid hit, so naturally you browse some webstores, read some reviews, order stuff and send it back again 😅 or at least that happened to me and not completely because I was bored, but because I thought I wanted something I don't really need. You nailed it right on the head when you said "functionality at a light weight", and I noticed that when tents and sleepsystems get to that realm of ultra light, it doesn't give me what I really need. I'm a bad-weather hiker half of the time and my dwelling needs to withstand some punishment. But I do think I found the perfect lightweight pack for me, which is the Gregory optic 58. It's basically an Osprey exos most people will say, but it's really an exos with a heavy duty suspension system. So a completely different pack where it counts, and one that fits me perfectly no less. It gives me just that extra bit of carrying capacity I was looking for in comparison to the other 200 dollar 50ish litre packs out there. It truly punches way above it's weight- and priceclass. Or at least it does on my hips 😂

@@HerrFinsternis nice, most people I know use the osprey one. Good to know there's alternatives out there.

@@djtangable7550 sorry to hear that, I wish you a good recovery! I'm not trying to argue that you should purposely weigh yourself down, just that personally I wouldn't spend so much money on gear that I already have a decent version of just because it's lighter. Just for the record I'm not a "I did it in the army and it should always be heavy and painful to hike" type of guy, I did do it in the army with outdated gear that hurt like hell and the amount of people getting bad knee, ankle, back etc problems is more than enough antidote for that kind of bs.

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@@DanBecker Thanks

Never heard of it!

Amazon is also making a knock-off of the Teton packs. My Teton Scout 3400 weighs about 4 pounds and has some nice features. It doesn't have belt pouches but does have lots of storage and a rain cover. I prefer my GG Crown2 60 at 2.25 pounds and carry up to 40 pounds comfortably on multi day hikes. The Hyperlites don't fit me well and have little adjustments, IMO.

My first and only backpack so far is the teton explorer 4000. 1 year in and ive no complaints. Cant miss what you have never had lol

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@@DanBeckersweet! How about inside the bag for spare lenses? Or do you just bring 1 lens and stick it on the camera with the camera clip at all times?

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What type Osprey and liters?

The $128 GG Crown2 60 pack is the old version, different material and very slightly heavier than the $199 new model (which goes on sale for $149 occasionally). I bought it and returned it for the newer version (on sale). The new black version has different side pouches as well so check that out if you're serious about ordering one. My only complaint is that there are no straps/buckles on the bottom for a tent or foam pad to attach. I have added some shock cord loops on the back and brain to aid in bungying extra gear or wet items.

The HMG southwest 3400

@@DanBecker Thanks, Bro!

A pack that is too short for your torso is brutal on your shoulders. I used to work at REI and sold packs to lots of people who had chosen a pack online that was way too short and they were so happy to purchase one that actually fit and was comfortable fully loaded.

@@danielkutcher5704 So I have learned. I bought the 3F UL before I understood the importance of torso length in selecting a pack.

I second that. my number 2 is my sleeping pad. that makes alllll the difference.(to me)