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@kesamek8537
@kesamek8537 Год назад
This focus on value and power consumption is extremely refreshing and 'real world', far more relevant than just about every other tech review channel.
@-opus
@-opus Год назад
@@14psk The 4090 is used for benchmarking.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq Год назад
To be fair I have a power meter on my computer, and the electricity my computer uses is nothing compared to the rest of the house. Heating Oven Refrigitator is like 99% of the electric bill here.
@Obie327
@Obie327 Год назад
The Ryzen 7 5700X is an excellent sleeper beast CPU. I had to grab one when they dropped below 200 bucks. I even snagged a Ryzen 5 5600 when around 100 bucks. I'm glad I waited and these puppies basically transformed my old Zen/Zen+ Pc's into new. Simple drop in upgrade bliss. The 5700X is amazing value especially if on existing AMD platform. Thanks Brian for the video!
@arunk2710
@arunk2710 Год назад
I'm a software developer. I've only used laptop for work. My laptop has a Ryzen 5 5600H. I've been thinking about building a PC for programming, graphic design, and gaming. Is the Ryzen 7 5700X good? I thought about buying the 5800X. But I've been hearing that the 5700X is more power efficient.
@Obie327
@Obie327 Год назад
@@arunk2710 Since you gave me some info on your work flow/Gaming usage, I would skip the 7 series and go with 12 cores and 24 threads? The Ryzen 9 5900x is reasonably priced and A perfect use case for you. As for the temps you can use PBO+Curve to reduced thermals without requiring exotic cooling. (Decent Air cooler) I have the same 105 watt Ryzen 7 5800X using that power/heat reducing UEFI/Bios feature on an air cooler. Good luck on your build! Peace!
@guy197
@guy197 Год назад
I upgraded to the 5700X from a 3900X a few months ago. What a joy of a CPU. The low power consumption sold me on it. I know a lot of people couldn't care less, but for me, seeing my system power draw drop by 50w, while actually gaming faster, cooler and quieter, brings a smile. Update: Looking at the responses to my post, seems some people can't get over why anyone would swap a 12 core CPU for 8 Core. I've personally regretted buying a 12 core CPU. When you use a PC for hi res single player games, no competitive MP, no 1080p, no productivity software, the only thing 12 cores get you is heat and noise, and lowering heat and noise is a priority for me. Now my games run 15% faster, 20 degrees cooler, 10 dB quieter and use up less electricity. And when the time comes to upgrade again, unless there's a real advantage for 12 cores in the way I use the system, I'll go, once again, for the lowest power draw 8 core CPU that gets the job done.
@timodeurbroeck9957
@timodeurbroeck9957 Год назад
Do you think its worth. Im using 3900x but I use it for rendering and stuff
@guy197
@guy197 Год назад
@@timodeurbroeck9957 Can't say. I only game with it.
@Oluabayo
@Oluabayo Год назад
Same here!
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork Год назад
That is not an upgrade it’s a side grade. You literally went from 12 cores and 24 threads to 8 cores and 16 threads. That makes no sense at all. If you needed just better gaming performance than the 5800x3d would have made alot more sense or a 5950x at least.
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork Год назад
@@timodeurbroeck9957 No he made a bad decision. If you have a 3900x upgrade to a 5950x for an increase in cores or just go for the 5800x3d at least.
@yan3066
@yan3066 Год назад
I love that you included cpus from other generation and their competitor too ! Great benchmarks Bryan ! 👍
@802Garage
@802Garage Год назад
I was gonna spend the extra and get a 5800X3D to upgrade from my 3600 just to have the best of the generation, but the extra $100+ just doesn't seem worth it. Probably gonna go with the 5700X and tune it.
@YourTamedLion
@YourTamedLion Год назад
Upgraded from the 1700 to the 5700x :) So happy to have chosen AM4 because they support it so long 👍
@Ryzen_56X
@Ryzen_56X Год назад
I love my 5600X it runs brilliantly with everything I throw at it, to me is the best cheaper option for a budget gaming cpu.
@pitracks
@pitracks Год назад
me who just bought a 5600g for 140$: 🙂 i dont have a gpu atm so it works out in the end, but damn what a cpu 5700x is
@MobiusDude
@MobiusDude Год назад
Great review. I built my rig based on the rizen 5700g/b550 Christmas 2021 at £259. I'm so glad I did. It's allowed me to play games albeit at 1080p res on my 1440p monitor at very reasonable fps. When I eventually get a 1440p GPU for a decent price hopefully before summer. The PCI express being only 3x won't make much difference. Maybe TYC should review the 8core 5700g. Very low tdp & bundled with amd cooler. Plus it's even cheaper now at £170
@TobbeBoll
@TobbeBoll Год назад
The PCI is gen 3 not 3x, think it supports 24x total or something
@Boogerdick69
@Boogerdick69 Год назад
5700g is really slow, not a good gpu honestly. Overclock that and a 9900k an the 9900k runs laps around it. And it’s old
@davec1294
@davec1294 Год назад
Bought a PC with a 5700g and a Nvidia 3060 for 1080p gaming last year and it runs everything very good including Cyberpunk and Warhammer 3.
@samuelrave
@samuelrave Год назад
5700G is fine when only used with the integrated graphics, but I wouldn't pair it with a high end GPU, it would be a bottle neck
@chrisholmes5097
@chrisholmes5097 Год назад
Did you mean to say "Albeit" ?
@aftp4i94
@aftp4i94 Год назад
I just picked up the 5700x for $265AUD to replace my 3600. I was contemplating either the 5800x3d or 5900x but they were double the price of the 5700x and for a mixed use family gaming and work computer the performance increase just didn't scream double. The notional saving can either go towards cost of living (I feel like a pelican - no matter where I look there's always an enormous bill right in front of my face) or towards replacing my 1660 Super for something that will run 1080p ultra at 100+ fps for a couple of years.
@FarissimoID
@FarissimoID Год назад
How is the performance uplift mate? I'm thinking about it, have been eyeing for the 5700x for a week now.
@chills5100
@chills5100 Год назад
My advice 3070 is a good bet though it has a limited 8gb of vram a used 2080ti is even better having same performance with 3 gigs of more vram.
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
@@FarissimoID i had a 3600x and upgraded to the 5700x a few months ago. I noticed better 1% lows and better average frames. I personally think its a worthy upgrade over the 3600/3600x
@802Garage
@802Garage Год назад
Exact same situation I'm in. Don't think the extra $100+ for the X3D is really worth it.
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
@@802Garage yeah that extra $100 can be used some where else in the build
@Seventeen76
@Seventeen76 Год назад
I'm pairing one with a MSi Meg Unify x570, Corsair Dom Plats 32Gb (4×8) MSI 3070Ti, Corsair iCue H100i Elite ,Corsair HX 850 Corsair PSU, in a Corsair 4000D Airflow. Im going for the black on black "Murdered out" look with red lights on the Plats, and fans. I go to Micro Center Houston on Saturday to pick it all up. I've been saving 2 years for this.
@mikeclardy5689
@mikeclardy5689 10 месяцев назад
Have a friend that got a deal on a fairly new 4080 for 800. He had an x570 mobo and ive been helping him make a build to replace his prebuilt. I wasnt able to convince him to get the 5800x3d to pair it with his card, but he did agree to the 5700x. Looked up some benches and its not terrible. He'll still get top end performance especially since he is a 4k gamer. There is gonna be 10%+/- bottleneck in newer titles. But not enough to ruin the experiance. I guess when he eventually has problems ill trade him an x3d chip and use his 5700x to upgrade my sister's 3950x.
@seemly
@seemly Год назад
I have the 5700x on my newly built pc paired with some gen4 m.2 ssd and boy must I say, coming from a 4th gen intel i5, the transition was mind blowing! truly a feelsgood man moment... But since the budget was short, I had to temporarily pair it with a GT 710 just so I can actually use it. Fortunately, paycheck's coming in again soon and I'm looking to get a 6700xt to pair it with and I can't freaking wait!!
@AlejandroJorqueraZ
@AlejandroJorqueraZ Год назад
I upgraded my old 3600 to a 5700x and i am loving it. Much better temps, lower voltages and nice frames in games.
@dtrain8335
@dtrain8335 Год назад
What GPU? I'm currently on a 3600 at 4.4Ghz with a 6700xt and was tempted to try the 5700x but most benchmarks I've seen with 6700xt the FPS are basically the same between both CPU's.
@AlejandroJorqueraZ
@AlejandroJorqueraZ Год назад
@@dtrain8335 i am using a 5600xt. My system in general feels smoother and playing demanding games like Cyberpunk is more stable for real
@blayde4577
@blayde4577 Год назад
@@dtrain8335 not worth it for u unless u play a specific competitive game that is CPU bound and u need that extra power, but for most games it is not worth it
@ToxicTeemoOCE
@ToxicTeemoOCE 8 месяцев назад
@@blayde4577 I just bought a new graphics card, running it with a 3600 it is CPU bound, hoping the 5700x helps
@glowinTHX
@glowinTHX 7 месяцев назад
@@blayde4577 It is worth it if you want smoother gameplay
@83RhalataShera
@83RhalataShera Год назад
Mine just came in yesterday as an upgrade from my 3600. Mainly wanted it in order to get the most out of my AM4 board while not spending too much and keeping my old cooler, very satisfied with the upgrade so far.
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
I was in the same boat! Had a 3600x and upgraded to the 5700x in November. Its a great 8 core cpu especially for the price. The power usage is great and isnt hard to keep cool. I instantly noticed better frames when I upgraded. The 5700x will hold us over on AM4 for a little while longer with no problems
@dualbeardedtech
@dualbeardedtech Год назад
I upgraded from a 3600x to the 5700x. You're going to be so freaking happy 😁
@aFutureSelf
@aFutureSelf Год назад
Upgraded from a 1700 since release to this 5700x. It's pretty nuts how much value I got out of this platform. A nearly 6 year old b350 mobo that's about to turn into a home lab.
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
@@aFutureSelf yeah AM4 is gonna go down in the history books! Great platform! I hope AM5 matches the longevity
@syncmonism
@syncmonism Год назад
Your old cooler will most likely still be compatible with AM5 boards too
@vitfiser2603
@vitfiser2603 Год назад
Upgraded from R7 2700 about a week ago. Great performance indeed.
@tailsman2000
@tailsman2000 Год назад
I've been on the fence about getting a 5700x since I've been slightly bottlenecking with my 3600 and 3060ti. This video has influenced my decision for sure. The gaming and productivity perf increase seems good plus I already have an Arctic freezer cooler. Thank you!
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 Год назад
Def a solid upgrade.
@rusudan9631
@rusudan9631 Год назад
i'm same specs as you, 3600 and 3060ti and i'm bottlenecked a bit in phantom liberty cpu goes 80+% usage in big city areas and i'm dropping fps from 60 to as low as 40-45. considering to get one for BF if they give some good offers (i've been tempted to go AM5 and 7700x but maybe i can breathe some more life if i swap just cpu)
@penguin5384
@penguin5384 Год назад
Man that CPU's box looked like it had been opened by a 5 year old on Christmas morning.
@Geromino555
@Geromino555 Год назад
AM4 Socket is legendary! I just updated 3x gaming PCs using 5600(x) and my main work PC with 5700g from 3200g and I can see 5yrs use out of them. I love this platform. 5700x is fast becoming a great alternative to a 5600x now that prices are plummeting!
@syncmonism
@syncmonism Год назад
The 5600 or 5600X (virtually identical) needed to be in these benchmarks, because it is well known that they perform about the same as the 5700X and 5800X in most games, and they are both significantly cheaper. People need to know whether (and to what extent) the performance advantages are of having two more cores, and for which games it makes a difference.
@syncmonism
@syncmonism Год назад
I would guess that a 5700X is starting to make more sense for a gaming PC now, especially because the only upgrade option you have for gaming on an AM4 board is to go up to the rather expensive 5800X3D, so, given that a lot of people will probably want to try to make their Zen 3 cpu last a bit longer on this platform (because there are no more advanced architecture cpus available for Zen 4), having 8-cores might matter a bit more for "future proofing" to some extent. Also, some games do seem to run better on an 8-core Zen 3 CPU vs. a 6-core Zen 3 CPU. Still, as far as I can tell, most games run about the same on 6-core Zen 3 CPUs, and the games which do run better on an 8-core are not likely to see a meaningful difference with a more mid-ranged GPU, and even with a high-end GPU, the performance difference is not likely to be that big (not nearly as big as the difference in the number of cores).
@Username_CC_
@Username_CC_ 8 месяцев назад
I had the same question because the 5600 is 50 bucks cheaper!
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 Год назад
Given the inflated gpu pricing, By the time I am getting a 4090 equivalent performing card, I am likely looking at something like an am6 platform, so a 5700x is a very good value.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz Год назад
You can shoot lower. You can get a $120 5500 which is in all cases faster than 3600, not always but sometimes closing in on 5600 and it's a ton of fun since it takes PBO spectacularly well. You can get a b450 board to go with it for $60 and RAM isn't gonna break the bank either. AM4 is a dead end platform anyway, you shouldn't be pumping too much money into it, depends individually how much is too much. I don't think we expect DDR6 and thus AM6 in foreseeable future. DDR4 has been with us for nearly a decade now that it's getting phased out.
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 Год назад
@@SianaGearz , what makes you think it’s only called am5/4 because uses ddr5/4? I know it’s a dead end platform, but so is am5 eventually, the difference is I know exactly what I would be getting for the price and the trade off of gaming performance in the long term is accounted for with the aforementioned 4090. It’s not bad to necessarily Save the money now and use it on a new platform later. Either ways if you are considering am4, you are not justifying am5. I can by a budget gpu, mobo, ram, decent cpu, and powder are psu for less than the motherboard and lowest level cpu for am5. Spending money on a 5500 is bad advice either way. You would be much better of with a 5600 or 5700x for the extra $.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz Год назад
@@robertt9342 5600 is a much much better processor but it depends on pricing trend and regional pricing. At the moment i bought the 5500 myself 5600 would have cost me 70€ extra or 50% extra. If you can get it within $25 extra it becomes a no-brainer. Similar consideration applies to of course any higher step up from that. Socket naming has been a tradition for mainstream sockets. AM2 runs on DDR2 AM2+ runs on DDR2 or DDR3 and is a backwards and forwards compatible bridge spec. AM3 runs on DDR3 AM4 runs on DDR4 AM5 runs on DDR5 Every time a new memory spec comes along, of course the socket needs to be redesigned because the processor is the memory controller. Intel has been able to slipstream these adjustments into their every-two-families new CPU socket. AMD pushes the changes back for a while. There are some exceptions. FM1, FM2 and AM1 were short-lived DDR3 compatible sockets with video feature or SoC connectivity, ones lacking FSB (HyperTransport). AM4 is similar to these, being an SoC socket but with DDR4. I think it's a fair guess that if an AM5 successor comes before DDR6, it's likely to have a different name than AM6. Within a given socket, also an incompatibility could be introduced at the chipset or BIOS level, like if that socket lives for 7 or 10 years, it may turn out impossible for the earliest boards to support last CPUs coming out for it.
@shipmcgree6367
@shipmcgree6367 Год назад
Awesome comparison metrics thanks. Seeing my humble Ryzen 5 3600 still in the race was cool 🤙🏻
@bocconom
@bocconom 4 месяца назад
I just built a system with the Ryzen 5 3600 and paired it with a. Powercolor rx 6800 Red Dragon GPU in April 2024 for a person with limited funds. It runs every game they throw at it in 1440p and they couldn't be happier.
@Lu1giopl
@Lu1giopl Год назад
Went from a ryzen 5 2600 to this in january. Was a nice boost.
@ErraticPT
@ErraticPT Год назад
Prefer the 5800x, it can often be found for the same price, has very slightly higher default clocks and overclocks slightly better (than the 5700x).
@alwaysontimin
@alwaysontimin Год назад
Got my 5700x for 200 bucks and will be pairing with a 3070 for about 430 bucks for my first build. I hope it goes well, after so much research I think I've made some great purchases thus far! Appreciate the video, thank you
@jaisonthomas4401
@jaisonthomas4401 Год назад
i totally disagree what you said pairing Ryzen 5700x with A520 motherboard and GPU....you could pair A520+5700g+GPU and B550+5700x+GPU(may be with PCIe 4.0)
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber Год назад
AM4 is such an amazing price to performance platform. Bring on the low prices!
@dennisp8520
@dennisp8520 Год назад
Yeah but AM4 is a dead platform it’s hard to recommend it over Intel for those on a budget. Intel is killing it right now with their price to performance
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber Год назад
@@dennisp8520 How is it a dead platform? Because it won't get updated CPUs?
@Benri05
@Benri05 Год назад
@@dennisp8520 eh as long as your pc is faster than current gen consoles you'll be just fine and the 5000 series ryzen is faster than the consoles out today, the cpu in current gen consoles is between a 2700x and a 3700x performance wise.
@JS-wl3gi
@JS-wl3gi Год назад
These CPUs at 8 cores 16 threads 36mb of cache on am4 board are killer cpus. AM4 platform is stable and the pricing is good for the components. if done with gpu 2020 and above with 8gb your set for awhile.
@batsey2678
@batsey2678 Год назад
If you already have a 5600x is it not really worth upgrading to the 5700x would you be best getting the 5800x3d?
@graphicarc
@graphicarc Год назад
I didn't know the price dropped under 200€ on 5700x. Time to build one system and test it out, thanks as always for these videos
@IBims1Mark
@IBims1Mark Год назад
I bought it for €204
@kierenalvarez
@kierenalvarez Год назад
6 cores 3600xt at 4,6ghz for 79aud with a 200 buck 3060ti... beat me pls
@valt1337
@valt1337 5 месяцев назад
why did you include i3 12100 and not an i5 12k series ?? so we can see the real competitor for this cpu..
@nickrom11
@nickrom11 Год назад
$155 at microcenter with COH 3. New customer email code for $25 off cpu's.
@allanclerigo6188
@allanclerigo6188 Год назад
I have a ryzen 5 5600 - idle temp is 40c, never goes down to 39c, and at full load, hitting 62c now i changed it to ryzen 7 5700x - idle temp is 34c and max around 58c Those two processors of mine running at a stock speed never overclock. I love the power efficiency of this chip, and it partners with my rtx 4070 ti love it!
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
Yeah thats a great combo! The 5700x is an all around great 8 core chip
@creepergod2472
@creepergod2472 8 месяцев назад
I don’t know how good it will run on fortnite but I have a feeling it will run Good on fortnite because how good it runs on cyberpunk in 4k and I was planning to use this on 1080p on fortnite and i think it will run at 300 fps
@deagt3388
@deagt3388 Год назад
Is it worth it for us gamers (exclusively) to assemble computers based on old Xeon processors in addition to such cheap beasts? I would really like you to answer me like many others on your channel. ;-)
@ryanvtec3885
@ryanvtec3885 Год назад
pretty happy with my $349 canadian 12700k. First intel 8 core she is super snappy
@ZackSNetwork
@ZackSNetwork Год назад
There is no point in buying into AM4 with cheaper prices of AM5 know along with Intel 12th and 13th Gen CPU’s. Unless your already on AM4 then upgrading from a zen 2 or 5600 to the 5800x3d is a good idea.
@keliangchan
@keliangchan Год назад
won an auction and paid 124 gpb for this cpu, but it had few bended pins and lucky me again, I'm a master of fixing bended pins, no problem at all after fixing it, my build: 5700x, msi mpg b550i, 32gb 3733mhz ram and palit 3090, all in a fractal design ridge itx case.
@birgerolovsson5203
@birgerolovsson5203 Год назад
I bought a 5700G not long ago and are Happy Happy with that one since I don't need better graphics than what the 5700G have.
@mynes17
@mynes17 Год назад
thank you for the video.. but the i3-12100 and the i5-12400 are still a better buy
@robertt9342
@robertt9342 Год назад
I went with a $50 asrock b450 pro4 motherboard. Not many a520s here.
@tornimate
@tornimate Год назад
What type of undervolt produced these results, please? is it just the Curve Optimizer?
@itsJPhere
@itsJPhere Год назад
I think Ryzen 5600 is the best value for gaming right now. Don't need 2 extra cores for gaming, and if paired with some reasonably priced GPU, not an overkill 4090 like in this video, the speed difference would be unnoticeable between the CPUs anyway.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz Год назад
5600 is scary good. In scalable workloads, it just about reaches the 8-core performance of the 3700x. In less scalable workloads it's just good, only to be beaten by something substantially more modern and that much pricier like 13 or 7000 series.
@djsnowpdx
@djsnowpdx Год назад
As the owner of a 5950X tested both in and out of Game Mode, SMT on and off, and Eco Mode on and off, I have the next best thing to personal experience that the 5700X is a great CPU. Hardware Unboxed found this CPU to be faster than the Core-i5 13400. I find that my 5950X plays all my games extremely well most of the time, with the usual exceptions: adequate Cities Skylines performance is unobtainable, The Just Cause games stutter when you drive around quickly on the ground, particularly Just Cause 3, and GemCraft is capped at 30 FPS anyway. For more average games, Surviving Mars, Need for Speed: Heat, NFS Unbound, Forza Horizon 4/5... I'm GPU-bound with a fairly stable 90 FPS or higher, and I rate performance as functionally perfect. You don't need more CPU performance than this for gaming, outside of specialized scenarios, and $200 or less is a good price for this class of CPU. If you're thinking of getting a better CPU than this, you should either be upgrading an existing AM4 system, looking to build a cheap workstation with a Core-i5 13500 or 13600K, or you should be looking at AM5.
@sjsd1990
@sjsd1990 Год назад
I reckon this should be the best 8 core CPU in terms of price to performance.
@Phenom98
@Phenom98 Год назад
Yes but cores don't matter. Overall performance does.
@burdebc1
@burdebc1 Год назад
I wasn't even thinking about upgrading from my 3600, but then I saw the 5700x for $200 on black friday and had to get one.
@stayic3119
@stayic3119 Год назад
I ended up picking a 5800x for $150 usd, coming form a 3600
@toast1797
@toast1797 Год назад
the 5700X is now barely pricier than the 5600 would be insane not to get one if building on a budget
@sc337
@sc337 Год назад
still stuck with 4c8t, might as well skip 6c12t and go straight to 8c16t
@JotaCeeRD
@JotaCeeRD Год назад
Coming from a ryzen 5 2600 on the same B450 motherboard I bought back on 2018, I can say this is one of the best upgrades I did. It is an amazing cpu! and for 190 is a steal!
@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha
Upgraded from 2600x and a B450 board to, had it for about a month now and LOVING it!
@JotaCeeRD
@JotaCeeRD Год назад
@@KatalistProductionsKozzySasha That's amazing! Hope you enjoy it as much as I've been doing it.
@PHOBIAx57x
@PHOBIAx57x Год назад
Ryzen 5000 is an ITX low power builders dream.
@uremybae8788
@uremybae8788 10 месяцев назад
Bought this beauty for 140$ on Ali 11.11 sale :)
@herlotz
@herlotz Год назад
The i3 12100 is a beast for the money... it cost 1/4 of the money of the 5700x in my country
@mtaufiqn5040
@mtaufiqn5040 Год назад
You just can't compare 4c8t with 8c16t
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
The 12100 is still a great chip even for 4 cores 8 threads!
@father_saturn
@father_saturn Год назад
@@mtaufiqn5040 we can and we do, look at the tables, it's beating 5700x
@mtaufiqn5040
@mtaufiqn5040 Год назад
@@father_saturn yeah only in single core, not multicore
@father_saturn
@father_saturn Год назад
@@mtaufiqn5040 benchmarks are all synthetic
@Phenom98
@Phenom98 Год назад
I upgraded from 2600 to this. It was bottlenecking even my 1660ti on some games. Now I'm ready for my 6700xt
@Jesus_was_God
@Jesus_was_God Год назад
Its a crap CPU for an even crappier Chipset. It uses 50 Watts more than my b450 with 5600G in Idle. No one is talking about it, bcz they dont care. I care, I pay expensive energy prices here. Rear IO is a powerhog in Ryzen 7000, it was better in 5000 and much much better in 3000. DDR5 with expo/Xmp wastes alot of energy too. Don´t do it if you love to watch yoututbe on ur PC!
@hessihess
@hessihess Год назад
I have a 5600G on B550 and RX 6600 XT. I'm gaming at 1080p 60Hz. With undervolting my CPU and GPU my max. System Power draw is about 161 Watts. After changing to the 5700X I was shocked! With the CPU and GPU undervolted i got 202 Watts. Thats 25% more Power consumption. But only a max. of 8% more FPS. I immediately changed back to the 5600G. Now I ordered a 5700G to see whats the difference in Power consumption between 5600G, 5700G and 5700X. My PS5 at 4K, HDR needs a max. of 210 Watts by the way. Playing PS4 Games upscaled to 4k + HDR its about 110 Watts. So it is possible to be energy efficient. I dont think FPS/Watts is the right way to show a CPUs efficiency. Its like you want to know how many kph a car can go per Horsepower... But everybody wants to know how much fuel do I need to get x km. So how much Power (W) do I need to get 1 hour (h) of playing. Watts per hour is the right way to show a CPUs efficiency.
@Jesus_was_God
@Jesus_was_God Год назад
@@hessihess so true :D Im happy to see Im not the only one who cares about heat, energy and noise pollution. My newest PC consumes 120 Watts total 1440p/60 FPS. Its a mini Case that packs alot of horsepower in just 2 liters of space. When Im not using it, it IDLEs at 45 Watts. Actually I dont care anymore about newest products, I just want an esthetic efficient small machine. Btw u r so right,watts per hour is the better measure to compare machines👍
@lalohummel9861
@lalohummel9861 Год назад
i got the R7 5700 x and ist a great CPU for Gaming i lov it!!!
@argh6666
@argh6666 Год назад
you should have included the R5 5600 CPU to compare whether it is worth going to 5700x instead of just having the older generation of 3600.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 Год назад
There wouldn't be much difference in gaming between 5600/5600x and 5700x, that's why he couldn't include either of them...because then he wouldn't have a video. 5700x is 5% more performance for $60-80 more and it would destroy the narrative. 5600 nonx gives 90% of the performance of 5800x3d and 95% of the performance of a 5700x. A quick trip to the User Benchmark site will show that.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 Год назад
@@miguelrosario7642 Just get yourself another Bud Light and sit down.
@Cpt_Wolf
@Cpt_Wolf Год назад
I got myself 5700G few months back for about the same money. I did that because if I decide to sell GPU and swap for something better, I still will have APU to play my games without leaving me stranded. It's trade-off in cache department, but I think well worth it.
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
Nothing wrong with that! Because you never know when you need those integrated graphics and dont want to be left stranded. Luckily all AM5 cpus have integrated graphics for down the road when you upgrade
@ragnarok291273
@ragnarok291273 Год назад
Did the exact same in December. no regret whatsoever.
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 Год назад
@@Bdot888 But they don't even come close to an APU for performance, they're basically so you can order a new GPU.
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
@@mikem9536 yeah very true. I wonder if AM5 will even produce Apus. I guess they rather sell their discrete graphics
@9mmfederalrimmed235
@9mmfederalrimmed235 Год назад
I have the 5700G now in use for over one year. The integrated graphics are shit for gaming and only worth for display. But are way better than the UHD 630 on my SFF Dell. The UHD 630 gives about 12 fps and the 5700G gives about 26 fps while the GT 1030 gives 40 fps to 50 fps. I was torn as well to buy the 5700G for my first build now but I went with the 5900X for more cache and cores. The 5700G is loaded to 50+ % on task manager on games meaning games already use all 8 cores passing in the realm of thread use. So 8 cores are already obsolete in reality. The 5950X would be an overall better CPU but with 460$ it is to expensive. I got my 5900X as well for overpriced at 336$. AM6 and the 8000 series Ryzen will have 200 cores as I hear. That makes any 7950X3D immediately obsolete. Even Windows uses allmost all cores of an 2012 cuad core 740QM i7 CPU I am using now. I get lags when loading 6 tabs on Edge due to the processor being 100% loaded with the WiFi data. An 8 cores will be barely enough for running Windows 11 snappy in the future. Even the 5700G starts to feel a bit sluggish by now and that is an 8 core 16 thread high end CPU. Under 12 core CPU's are a no go today best is to go for the 5950X or any other 16 core 32 thread. Even that is already obsolete, sort of, when Ryzen 8000 shows up soon. Endless money pit, if you ask me. This 5900X is my first and last built due to expensive constant spending on out of the box obsolete hardware already.
@bobbysamuels1308
@bobbysamuels1308 Год назад
So i just purchased this (2 days ago) and put in a cheap MSI b450 (ProM2 v2), the only issue was that with the stock AMD stealth cooler teperatures were around 60 and when used in novabench or heavy workloads 80-90 degress. I installed the Noctua-NHU12S Redux and now the temp always stays around 50-60, and remains around 61-62 at max workloads. Beautiful upgrade under for under $200, jsut watch the temperatures please!
@Bdot888
@Bdot888 Год назад
I have the same cooler paired with my 5700x! And i get the same temps as you. I originally used my previous 3600x’s wraith spire on the 5700x for a couple weeks. While it wasnt horrible, the fan noise alone was annoying, so going with the noctua cooler was a worthy upgrade
@raptor6600gt
@raptor6600gt Год назад
I think the best value AMD cpu under $200 is the 5600. It's really close to the performance of the 5700X, cheaper and comes with a cooler.
@pbjames
@pbjames Год назад
Hey Brian what are your thoughts on the rx 6700? I haven't seem much discussion on it but it seems like a decent deal
@raincatchfire
@raincatchfire Год назад
avoid AMD GPUs if you are running multiple monitors or high refresh rate screens. There is a thread on the AMD subreddit about it.
@ElTejocotetl
@ElTejocotetl Год назад
The 5700x is amazing but for 100-110usd the 5600 is really hard to pass for me especially on gaming rigs
@nix123ism
@nix123ism Год назад
Yes, and the 5600 performs within a few percentage points of the 5700x so its hard to justify spending 50 percent more for a 3 percent improvement....
@leonpmuyt
@leonpmuyt Год назад
I have gone from a Ryzen 7 2700 to the 5700x. What an amazing upgrade. I do video editing (I don't use Adobe for anything) and it is absolutely amazing. It is paired with an RX6700 XT 12GB.
@Toniooo_30
@Toniooo_30 Год назад
we have the exact same set up lol
@jaredhankinson8349
@jaredhankinson8349 Год назад
@@Toniooo_30 same😀
@astrangeandmysteriouspodca7168
Same set up.
@jensenambrose3333
@jensenambrose3333 Год назад
I recently switched to a 5700 X and its great for gaming, al of my games feel smoother so a improvement in frame time consistency and most importantly a higher frame rate on Minecraft. I tend to hit a GPU bottle neck now rather than a CPU bottle neck while gaming. Running an RTX 2070 for reference. Also I noticed an noticeable improvement in load time in one of my games.
@ellypsis603
@ellypsis603 Год назад
Waiting for 5800x3d to get slashed in price
@NightMotorcyclist
@NightMotorcyclist Год назад
I'm sticking with my AM4 system for another year or two as I got my 5800X 3D for a really good price brand new and it's doing everything I throw at it with ease. I wouldn't mind getting a 5700X for a budget build for anyone in my family that may want one as B450 and B550 motherboards are still in good supply at a low price.
@badaoe3stratsonly130
@badaoe3stratsonly130 Год назад
Why you do upgrade to AM5 make sure you have a good cooler. I built a 7600x SFF built for my sisters friend. And while the 5600x can get you similar performance to an 5800. The 7600x is also hot as hell. So it would thermal throttle. With Ryzen 7000 x versions you need an NH-D15 or better for air cooling. That's one lesson I learned the hard way.
@mikem9536
@mikem9536 Год назад
5700x is a decent CPU, just a year too late and now it's destined for the bargain bin.
@Tealc2323
@Tealc2323 Год назад
Where is 5500/5600? For gaming, the 5700x is not the value sweet spot unless you need it for something else that requires those extra cores.
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman Год назад
It's worth noting that testing with the RTX 4090 isn't that useful with CPUs that aren't the absolute highest end for resolutions under 4K. The 6950 XT is faster than the RTX 4090 on slower CPUs because of the massive Nvidia driver CPU overhead. AMD GPUs don't have this problem because of the hardware command processor which reduces that overhead. Just as a disclaimer, I have a 7700X paired with an RTX 4090 and am a fan of Nvidia GPUs, but they suck for CPUs that aren't in the top of the range. It gets worse the faster the Nvidia GPU is. Hardware Unboxed recently demonstrated this overhead issue so reference their video if you have any questions about what I'm saying.
@gstormcz
@gstormcz Год назад
They showed even 6650xt is big deal vs 4090 for say modern 4core cpu paired. I think all cpus on combo with 4090 have some reduction in fps (driver overhead). Say 4090 is 3x faster than 6650xt, but difference in fps at 1080p is just 50perc. That talks about half of performance of gpu is left on table not having next gen nonexistent cpu. 1. Then 50perc performance uplift with 4090 vs 6650xt makes no sense for 6xprice 2.Gaming 1080p with 4090 is another BS 3. At 4K it would make half sense still pairing latest deal 200usd cpu with 1600USD gpu. Balanced cpu gpu would show what you can expect from sense making real life setup. Such benchmarks like this one tell absolutely nothing real.
@jarnovilen5259
@jarnovilen5259 Год назад
Well if you are looking absolute value in gaming, why not recommend the absolute best? The Intel Core i3-12100f? It is the best value CPU hands down.
@father_saturn
@father_saturn Год назад
true
@gscheben123
@gscheben123 Год назад
TechCity should compare the $120 65W R5-5600 /w box cooler VS the $190 R7-5700X
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 Год назад
He can't, not and have a 5700x value video.
@Teh_Monk
@Teh_Monk Год назад
I used this chip in my daughter’s first gaming rig. Only used Intel up to that point and so had no idea what to expect. What a beast it has turned out to be. It’s proven to be so good that it convinced me to go AMD for my own rig I recently built.
@mapesdhs597
@mapesdhs597 Год назад
What did you get for your own rig in the event? Just being nosey. :D
@Teh_Monk
@Teh_Monk Год назад
@@mapesdhs597 I got myself the 7600X and absolutely love it so far.
@Sira_Kackavalj
@Sira_Kackavalj 11 месяцев назад
What 5800x should have been
@kent6732
@kent6732 Год назад
I went for the 5700x as a drop in upgrade for my 2700x on an X470. Have it paired up with a 3060ti I got on Black Friday to replace my GTX 1070. With curve optimizer I dropped all cores to a -15 offset and a 200mhz auto OC. Basically it’s a 5800x for a bit of a discount. Runs at 4.2 all core, 4.85 single core. On a side note I could also finally run my ram at 3600mhz. The 2700x could never get past 3400mhz.
@christiaandekock1136
@christiaandekock1136 Год назад
what temps does you cpu push when gaming ? I have a 5700x as well tried some overclocking but my temps go to around 75 to max 80. Boost to 4.65ghz
@kent6732
@kent6732 Год назад
@@christiaandekock1136 I have a Scythe Myugen RevB cooler on it. Max around 72-75C but usually hang in the mid 60s if gaming. 80C is absolutely fine by the way. As long as you not up in the 90’s.
@christiaandekock1136
@christiaandekock1136 Год назад
@@kent6732 Cool appreciate the response!
@nhozdien5058
@nhozdien5058 Год назад
You can use ryzen master to find out the Curve optimization per core. It should take around an hour, and you don’t have to do anything. The software figures out the values for you. Also playing around with PPT, TDC, and EDC if you want the lower temp (decrease these values) or the higher all-core boost (increase these values).
@christiaandekock1136
@christiaandekock1136 Год назад
@@nhozdien5058 yeah I used ryzen master when i got the cpu. Not entirely sure if i applied what it did but performace definitely increased afterwards. Scored around 15000+ on r23. I have a hyper 212 on atm - just dropped it on after upgrading. Want to maybe go AIO for peace of mind haha
@951001ify
@951001ify Год назад
All I learned from this video that an old, I3 !!! 12100 does the job if you game only. Thanks! Costs half compared to 5700x but the performance is way better than half of it. I rather spend that money on a better card.
@father_saturn
@father_saturn Год назад
absolute chad
@JohnEllisIII
@JohnEllisIII Год назад
I got a solid deal on the 5800X3D on Amazon. However all the AM4 upgrades are just good deals all around. Upgraded from a 3600 without a single issue.
@prophetgoogle7071
@prophetgoogle7071 Год назад
yep, can't wait to upgrade from my 3500x
@gladcomming
@gladcomming Год назад
How much did u paid for x3d?
@nevernicemeadow
@nevernicemeadow Год назад
totally agree with you on the power draw aspect ! retired my Haswell Xeon this summer. Orginially wanted to get an AM5 at launch but the prices turned be down despite having the money. Instead bought a used 5800x for 170€. Added a 550m steel series new and 2x32GB (needed for work) 3200HZ. Costed me just 500€. Personally i run this CPU at a fixed 1.08V and 4.0GHz, whichs safes 30-50% Watts in office workload and gaming, while only sacrificing 20% single-core boost and 10% multicore. On top so much less heat and noise
@evilleader1991
@evilleader1991 Год назад
How about dont fix ur cpu at 4.0 ghz and just use curve optimizer, 5-10% loss in multicore perf, similar or even better single core speed (faster gaming) and much lower temps.
@grlmgor
@grlmgor Год назад
1.08v is low you could up it a bit to get more proformance. I run my 5800x for 2 years at 4.6 GHz @ 1.15v no PBO.
@nevernicemeadow
@nevernicemeadow Год назад
@@grlmgor i get to 4.4 @ 1.15v gaming stable and cinebench stable. temps are cool. but it will crash in prime small fft. also i noticed if using PBO, it clocks down to 4.2 GHz at 1.2V in prime small fft, while it runs cinebench at 4.5. and its not becuase of the temps. As my 1080TI starts to struggle in 1440p anyways and i run my 144HZ display at 120Hz and cap FPS there, i decided to just go with 4GHz on the CPU with minimal power draw is your 4.6GHz prime stable small fft?
@nevernicemeadow
@nevernicemeadow Год назад
@@evilleader1991 i dont like the CPU boosting for really small workloads like microsoft teams doing whatever it does and requests CPU resources. With tiny workloads, like playing a 2D indie game + waching netflix, the CPU uses like 20Watts more with PBO even with curve optimizer. And due to home office my PC runs aroudn 16h / day, so 20W more or less does add up
@grlmgor
@grlmgor Год назад
@@nevernicemeadow It crash in prime small fft as soon as it started. I turn PBO off as I locked it in at 4.6 because my worst cores start to struggle above that. Out of the box my 5800x was boosting to 5.85Ghz as I have a 280mm AIO.
@andrew1977au
@andrew1977au Год назад
Can you run these tests with a 3060ti
@damonblackburn2434
@damonblackburn2434 Год назад
Found a 8600K for $35 on FB to upgrade mining rig to gaming pc and I feel like I stole it
@baoquoc3710
@baoquoc3710 Год назад
Now that's a badonka steal 😳
@MateiPCBuilds
@MateiPCBuilds Год назад
yea but in eastern europe, it's not gonna be at that price, only used.
@megadeth8592
@megadeth8592 Год назад
am4 will forever be legendary
@tonyc1956
@tonyc1956 Год назад
Great recommendation and I can vouch for the results. Updated from a R5-3600 to the 5700X almost a year ago. Did the undervolt/curve optimizer/PBO2 thing right away and it's been rock solid, quiet, clocks at about 4.85 Ghz while heavy gaming and is currently sipping 30W of power while YouTubing with a mild BOINC distributed computing project running in the background. Paired it with the Arctic Freezer A35 cooler which was on sale at time of purchase - almost like it was ordained or something. Having no problems OCing the RAM to 3800/CL16 either so the memory controller is superb as well. I was intending for it to be a bit of a placeholder until 5800X3D came down in price (it was more than the 5900X!) but I bumped my res up to UW1440p and plan on moving up to UW1600p at some point so it makes little sense to do so now. Pretty happy with it.
@adsssssssssss-z
@adsssssssssss-z Год назад
hello sir, can you please share your 5700x PBO2/CO config? thanks
@tonyc1956
@tonyc1956 Год назад
@@adsssssssssss-z PBO: advanced, PBO limits: motherboard, PBO scalar: manual / 10X, Curve Optimizer: -25, max boost: +200
@kevinking6046
@kevinking6046 Год назад
I picked this CPU up at a national retailer here in Canada in November for the equivalent of $162 USD. What a steal!
@prophetgoogle7071
@prophetgoogle7071 Год назад
1wow
@mtaufiqn5040
@mtaufiqn5040 Год назад
Wow, make sure you also get that free games that comes with cpu
@t3mpl3tw3
@t3mpl3tw3 Год назад
Kids grow up so fast. Glad to see you spending more time with your son. You seem much happier.
@LJ-fe8vb
@LJ-fe8vb Год назад
Great video! I am in the process of choosing a new cpu to replace my I5 7600k. I have a Z270-p board. Looked into coffe lake mod, Aliexpress "mutant mobile cpu`s", Aliexpress embedded cpu-mobo combo, used Xeon`s, and now this Ryzen 7 5700x. I am using a 1070 ti, with no real need to upgrade it as i am cpu bottlenecked in most games on 1440p. My system does almost everything i want. The 7600k is clocked at 4,9ghz, delidded on liquid metal. However 4 cores is sadly not enough anymore. Will be keeping an eye out on ebay for used/refurb b550 boards and ryzen 7 5700x from now on. This seems like the best value for now. Any thoughts or tips? :) Been looking at aliexpress and russian videos for too long now so i might have missed something haha!
@multiicore_
@multiicore_ Год назад
for gaming? Definetely the 5700x. Workstation? Used Xeon will be cheaper with similar MT performance but has higher consumption
@LJ-fe8vb
@LJ-fe8vb Год назад
@@multiicore_ Gaming yup, just now considering the 5700x vs 5800x3d.
@LJ-fe8vb
@LJ-fe8vb Год назад
And if it is even worth buying an Am4 platform at all now
@betaunknown
@betaunknown Год назад
Bought VRM-B2 stepping 5700X and it does -30 all core in PBO offset and manages 4.8ghz boost in gaming.
@blackthorne2001
@blackthorne2001 Год назад
i just upgraded to this last december from ryzen 5 2600x and the difference is big in terms of performance faired with my rtx 3060ti.
@camotech1314
@camotech1314 Год назад
This is a fantastic CPU, like many have said before it's what the 5800X should have been. If I didin't end up getting the 5900X last year and then the 5800X3D I would have no doubt grabbed myself one of these!!😎
@DataDrifterOFC
@DataDrifterOFC Год назад
Just came to mind, it's great to see budget options for gaming but what CPU would you personally choose as the price/performance winner for productivity at this moment?
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 Год назад
its always been 5600x for everything
@quantumjank3091
@quantumjank3091 Год назад
Hey long time viewer first time commenter here. Love the content. Excellent points about the value the AM4 platform still has in it. However I would caution that if it's for a system you'd like to last 5 years buy a spare MOBO and/or have a good warranty and back-up plan in case of MOBO failure. Tech RU-vidrs focus on forward compatibility but what if your MOBO dies just out of warranty and because it's an older platform you have to pay a premium to get a working MOBO back? I would love to see someone say "at least if your mobo dies in 3 years there'll still be availability of compatible MOBOs readily available. I had a customer spend close to $800 AUD for me to fix their PC under these circumstances and it took me a week to find an ebay MOBO that would replace the failed one (after a TON of testing to rule out all the other components I could with parts on hand). I hate having to pay scalper price for 3 - 5 year old motherboard. Said customer spent $3k AUD on system to begin with and was perfectly happy with it until the MOBO died so it was worth it to them to spend $800 on me for parts and labour to just get it back to how it was! DDR4 RAM will go up in price as it becomes more uncommon in the next few years as will legacy MOBOs for even AM4 that AMD did a stellar job of supporting as long as it did...
@RonMizman
@RonMizman Год назад
Howdy. I have this phenomenal CPU with a GAMMA400V2 air cooler which cost $20, it keeps the CPU at 77c on full stress test 100% across 8 cores. Curve-optimized these run at the full max boost 4650MHz on all 8 cores under load. Just beautiful. Upgraded from Ryzen 1700 meaning I will be on this PC/platform for probably 8-10 years.
@kanethomo2483
@kanethomo2483 Год назад
If i didn't have a 5600x I'd upgrade but think I'll stick with the 5600x and 3070 combo until next gen I'm perfectly happy as is.
@GcontrollerG
@GcontrollerG Год назад
Get 5800x3d at future
@DrTopLiftDPT
@DrTopLiftDPT Год назад
funny CSGO is always tested. whats the point. it gets 100 frames with a rock
@Capybaraslay2
@Capybaraslay2 Месяц назад
Toaster Test xd
@pokepokepoke64
@pokepokepoke64 Год назад
The low power consumption and temps made it great for my itx pc build. I have a 3080 ftw3 ultra and a 5700x In a dan a4 h20 and a 240mm aio. Neither of the components go above 65 degrees
@titan_fx
@titan_fx Год назад
I remember when asking you about upgrading my 3600 to 5700X and jumped the gun on buying this. Thanks for the recommendations, 5700X is great!
@Capybaraslay2
@Capybaraslay2 Месяц назад
Few weeks ago i bought a used 3600 which threw errors in prime95 i could return the trash and did buy 5600X instead bc 5700X was a bit more expensive to me so my wife could have new nails instead 😅
@belowaverage7539
@belowaverage7539 3 месяца назад
I got a 5800x for like $170 shipped upgrading from a 2700. It's baller. Improved everything by leaps an bounds. Down side is that it runs pretty hot.
@mysticmago7613
@mysticmago7613 3 месяца назад
I went with an under-volted Ryzen 5700x for my "TradeBot" PC, automated trading of the futures market. Runs cool all week, non-stop from Sunday evening to Friday afternoon.
@blakedmc1989RaveHD
@blakedmc1989RaveHD 7 месяцев назад
i just bought a Ryzen 7 5700X just to upgrade my dedicated livestreaming PC's CPU which currently has a Ryzen 5 3600 (non X) and it's paired with a RTX 2060KO for Nvenc! i like i might have better performance and More efficient than even my Ryzen 5 3600 non X which it's bonkers
@45eno
@45eno 9 месяцев назад
Just bought a 5700x for $115 locally and sold off a 5600 for $100. It’s in my 2nd Media PC in the master bedroom. Paired with a 6700xt, x570s, 32gb 3200mhz c16 dual rank, 980pro 1tb boot , sn770 2tb game storage. Great well rounded bedroom pc.
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