Is This The Death of VFX? 

AI learns from human

Cable, Marvel, by Rob Liefeld, FEET VISIBLE

Obviously it does unless we fix it with a camera and a self learning AI and give it legs/wheels to move around and a few solar panels …….then it won’t need humans to keep growing anymore 😈

Except Steve Ditko.

Omg so true! Lol

OH NO

And teeth

@@Sonofsun. stable diffusion is able to draw teeth pretty well it's not perfect yet but it's getting pretty good

Animating speech in general

You can already use inpaint to fix the hands.

The governments' level of technology is far ahead of the plebes'. They wil use advanced hologram technology plus the metaverse thing (not the facebook shit but the one that is a precursor to) to stage an alien invasion. Most of mankind is gullible neough to believe in aliens, and the propaganda has been beating the drums of belief for a long time. Hellywood is of the devil. Mankind is being manipulated like the blind mob it is.

There are a lot of things in I, Robot that seemed like sci-fi that are quickly becoming reality, maybe most of them. The AI, the self driving cars, and human like robots are all basically at I, Robot levels

Hehe, i am master and generate Locations and Cherecter with AI more than two years. But with a Stable deffusion, it become really really cool!

I tried doing that with free AI for some images, didn't work out yet, but we will be there soon I guess.

@@derspacer2259 have you tried Dalle2 or Midjourney? They both have free trials.

Oh my god you are a genius

I do exactly this with Midjourney. It works *great*. Like I asked it to do a "templar knight giant made of [rock/ice/iron]" and had original, high quality images for major big bads in our campaign.

Yet, hear me out - AI can't really take artists job's away - because that would be an illegal copyright issue in itself LOL. Artists who use these platforms who understand who's art created their work are ENTIRELY aware you can't just ... take greg rutowski's job - or Artgerm, or even Corridor Crew's - these sites are entirely machine based, and don't take creativity in to account

It's infinitely more powerful if you can give it a rough sketch to redraw, rather than having to invent an image from scratch. Like photoshop, it lets the average person make something okay, but lets artists reach a whole other level

@@feffy380 It's scarier when you do that, trust me i've used my own art myself to do this and it's recreated soemone else's art instead LOL

@@duskfallmusic It absolutely can take artists' jobs away. It's not about one specific artist or another, it's about the market forces that will come into play thanks to this technology. In brief- if everyone can create Greg Rutkowski level artwork, the price for that level of artwork goes waaaaaay down, effectively to zero or close enough to it. In the process, many many artists will lose the ability to charge reasonable rates for their work and their jobs will in effect be "taken away". There is a _lot_ of historical precedent for this, over a 200+ year time period. The next decade will be very difficult for illustrators.

"I'm about to end this career's whole career"

Genius conversation starter

Let's start a business! That would be an awesome idea. Just need to save some money for the lawyers.

@@chefmastermikecmm8465 I would love to make that a business, somebody will do it if its not done already.

a 3x3 of you as your favorite game and film characters...

@@peppermintpig974 or imagine custom shirts with u as your favorite character

Its disgusting there are already lots of people impersonating and scamming people pretending to be big artist using ai

Yes! You said this so much better than I did.

True but it wont stop them. The only way to fight it is by making the government notice it and have them force some regulations.

@@bitterbunn1831 Not only that. They are selling the art and even use fucking watermarks. I shit you not.

Yeah I actualy Found this episode incredibly upsetting that they didn't even stop to think about the implications of stealing a style an artists has taken a lifetime of blood sweat and tears to develop.

It still needs reference, so I think we're good for now. _For now....._

Ngl, hearing people thinking that what drives artists to draw is shit like this is cringe . Artists won't stop drawing

@@crepooscul artists drawing isnt the issue, is whether or not they will still be paid to draw when a machine can do it just as well and 100× faster

I suspect it will simply added to the toolbox of artist tools to be used as leverage. For instance, you could fine-tune the AI using like they did in this video but fine-tune it on your collection of digital art and then tell the AI to riff off that to create more images in your own style.

@@mattisanimation2373 That's the thing, ML can't make up a new art style or give you a specific thing as well and it's full of ugly/uncanny imperfections. ML isn't good at giving you exactly what you want. A decent concept artist will make something good looking first try and can understand complicated prompts. Maybe some day ML will reach that point, but we're still a ways off IMO.

You sort of can already, like in the video they're able to make paintings "in the style of...", you just need some training data so it can recognize the consistency and it's good to go

@@wavebend1474 sure, you can tell an AI to copy a style because it has enough data to do so. But you can't really do what the usual iterative process is when concepting characters or environments. You can have a consistent art style but the designs were always different. The armours, weapons, crowns, magic, etc, was always different between images. In a game or movie, there are strict style guides that you must adhere to. Several feedback sessions between art director and artist happens where minute details are discussed. You can't tell an AI the same things you'd say to your staff that would've been easily communicated. "Jeff has the new concepts for the kingdom's banner. We need to change all the armors with the same emblem. Also, make all the buttons red and move the emblem to the right chest plate. Add the shoulder plates from Dan's concept but with the colour scheme from Rob's sketches." This type of feedback is not possible for AI yet. So I don't think art jobs are at risk yet. My fear is producers and executives that think AI would save time. Because it would take more time to fix the work done from an AI than it would be creating it from scratch.

@@wavebend1474 i think what he was trying to say is ai can't iterate upon something it made itself ver well because you would be feeding an ai its own previously generated image, then the quality of its base/input would degrade. You see a similar thing in this video where a lot of the designs and costumes are not consistent because the ai is coming up with new ones every time, based off of photos, not its own images with say eight fingers and a wonky nostril or eye here and there, and only 95% accurate lighting and texture, it just doesn't have that level of intention and understanding yet.

As someone who wants to draw and paint for a living, writing stuff like this make me feel a bit uneasy, like actually putting my thoughts out there about certain blindspots in ai image generation could jinx it and next month all these limitations will disappear and it'll be almost perfect, indistinguishable from real human art.

@@mariofeared ah yeah, you're right. In the way you've described it it's not possible...

@Soinas Doyi the answer is simple: they won’t.

​@Soinas Doyi Because there's always a market for handmade crafts or "the real deal." These days pretty much anything can be faked. Beauty can be faked with surgery, pictures can be faked with Photoshop, and the environment can be faked with CGI. But people will always appreciate more what they know is real or created by a human.

The way i see it it will lower the work teams needing to making comic and aimatiom(soon) so to make a tv show you only need a handful of people working weekends push out what a big studio push out with more work. this will strip the power of big production corporations and give power to the small teams as now the team is able make what they want no corps telling them what they can or cant do. this doesnt put people it makes people more independent and free from the corps to make what they wish and also makes more level playing field as the good content will rise to the top

Its part of a globalist/communist agenda.

@@nadiaplaysgames2550 Yes, it gives more people the ability to make content. But you have to take into account supply and demand. Yes, there will be a lot more content out there, which means the value of that content will go down in monetary terms. In other words, people will be able to make stuff, but it will be much harder to make money in return.

@@nadiaplaysgames2550 Seems like an awfully small pro compared to the cons listed above. More available sub-par entertainment vs. Instant fabricated reality that can manipulate in infinite ways. I'm incredibly uneasy about this.

@@nadiaplaysgames2550 that model has always assumed that all projects get equal distribution and visibility. If anything, it will increase the profits of big companies since instead of shilling out paying for vfx artists and animators, you can throw more money into the marketing budget or even just pocket the profits. If it's quality enough for people to watch, sure more small channels and creators will be able to create, but only the big companies will have the money to push distribution.

I wouldn't worry too much, there will still be people who will want comething specific in a commission that will take the Ai a while to get correctly. Even now the promts that I'm using don't always give me the desired result, ofc things will improve but I think someone made a good point by saying that this will get rid of Mediocre artists but if your craft is amazing and unique then you should be okay

True many jobs I had weren't about doing really creative stuff that AI can't match but these type of derivative images they created here, I guess we no longer have a job, lol.

@@artistnameseven I mean, it took what, 2-3 years to get to this point? If the technology doesn't hit a brick wall soon, a massive chunk of artists may be out of work by the end of the decade, depending on how society views and interacts with these things.

Man communism sure is looking good right now.

You are right to worry. Lots and lots of artists do freelance work that's not hugely different to this - very basic assignments very typically painted. Roleplaying book illustration feeds a ton of people and many artists start with it until they develop their unique style and approach. This will now be impossible, because these smaller jobs will almost certainly be automated. Yes, the big famous artists probably don't need to fear. There will be purists willing to pay for their labour. But the smaller less famous ones will suffer.

Or as the audience enters the movie theater eveyone has their picture taken/voice captured and the AI adds the audience into the movie, even the main characters of the movie are replaced with audience members. Imagine going to Iron Man 2 and seeing yourself as Tony Stark.

Perfect! So we finally skipped the fun part of making art and can solely consume. :)

@@MariOmor1 that would fuck people minds

I am going to kill m y se lf in public as my definitive art piece and act of rebelion, lets see if AI can replicate THAT, fu c k you society

@@tillholder2400 yes… exactly.

That's oddly specific.^^ I never saw a kid getting all hyped by seeing their name in a math problem. xD

@@Ambar42 I love math. Ben was used all the time. That may be why I loved math as a kid. Subliminally inspired. A centillion percent squared. XD

@@Ambar42 thats my class everytimes in math class, even during high school xD. maturity is non important option

what kids get hyped by maths bruh?!

@@Earth_Being me.

and in a specific style

Next up.. Video! It will soon be hard to distinguish between what's generated and what's real. Whole movies will be made with way. Guys sitting in a basement will do Hollywood level movies with their finger tips.

Well initially Dall-E was purposely handicapped so that it can't generate real human faces

They purposely made Dall-E unable to make faces

@@roteschwert Which is why it got absolutely dunked on by Stable Diffusion. Can't stop the signal.

Underrated comment

I did use it for a storyboard, sometimes its pretty much a pain when it starts creating things you're actually not asking for, but it's for sure one very handy tool!!

The one thing it really isn't good for is blocking, though. And storyboarding is *all* about blocking. It generates a random composition, not the one you were thinking of to convey a frame in a scene. What we need is for the tech to evolve just slightly enough to allow uploading of low-fidelity sketches for blocking a scene and for it to convert that into a rendered storyboard frame. We're already seeing some of that, where you can paint a landscape and it converts the yellow into sand, green into foliage, brown into dirt, and so on for the the final image. But we need to take stick figures or rough sketches of characters and convert their composition and pose into a final result.

@@Keavon there are ways to get around the blocking issue, 'out-painting' or 'in-painting' is one of them. Dall e 2 allows you to erase areass and place mostly whatever you want there

I've been using it for art for a card game im working on. Some shots are easy to pull off, some you have to mess with prompts for hours just to get a good enough shot.

@@Keavon I think something like this already exists. Like on dall-e level. Two minute papers made a video about it, if I remember correctly. It has a thumbnail with a golden warrior standing in between dunes, I'll try to find it

They joys of open source software.

I got into it about 3 months ago, first with Disco diffusion, then midjourney, then dall-e then stable. The progress has been so fast that it even feels like a waste of time if you try something new and hard that doesn't work well with the AI - because chances are it might work a 100 times better two weeks later. The speed of progress is insane.

7 years before generated art was inexistent. AI generated art took that much time to reach superhuman level... and innovation in AI is only accelerating it's not just art, it goes far beyond that / text / 3D model / video / coding etc... the trend seems to be that text or/and language will be an universal language for everything (you say ---> it act)

@@jmuetwiller coding is the one thing AI cannot do unless you are talking about an AGI

As someone who has been playing with the AI art gens since the first day the public could get access, I've become aware of a lot more artists and their projects than I ever was before. Trying to find styles to reference in order to create unique combinations (rather than just cranking out Greg Rutkowski and Artgerm portraits like every n00b does at first) forces you to explore a lot of artists and their work, meaning that you end up finding cool projects to follow that you didn't even know existed. Also, someone who (1) has artistic vision and purpose, (2) knows how to use artistic knowledge to craft prompts more effectively, and (3) takes the time to learn the subtleties and nuances of the tools is going to have an advantage over randos with none of the above for a while at least. AI art is cool and can be super impressive but it's not push-button vision-realization yet. It's just a tool. If the artists you like either (a) make art good enough to stand out from the rest of the field regardless or (b) incorporate AI into their process to enhance what they're doing, they're probably going to be fine. If, however, they stand on their lawn and shake their fists at technology before retreating back into their caves to sulk about all the dues they've paid being somehow negated and the "kids today" ruining their gatekeeping by making creativity more accessible, then, yeah, they might fall behind. Think about it this way: Niko created some cool fan art of Sam in various styles. It looked super cool. But if that's ALL he did, ever, how long would you follow his work? The art looks great but you still need good ideas driving it to keep it interesting. I mean, I can tell you from experience, if you see someone create a portrait of a character in the style of Greg Rutkowski and/or Artgerm, it looks awesome the first handful of times. If you see that person crank out a thousand portraits of characters in the style of Greg Rutkowski and/or Artgerm, you don't care anymore. There's more to art than just how it looks. Also, let's say an artist creates a web comic. They've been working on it for years, building up a small following, etc. If some dude with ideas but no hand-eye coordination can use AI to create a web comic that outperforms the first guy's because it's more interesting/funny/whatever to people, then how good was that first guy's web comic in the first place? The people who should be sweating the most at the moment are graphic designers, tbh. If a company can generate thousands of logo ideas in a couple of hours, then why pay some goober to come up with a handful of ideas in a week? For now, the answer is "because that goober can make specific changes instead of rolling the dice each time" and "that goober can actually implement your new art in printable/postable resolutions, formats, and whatnot instead of just saying "hey, here's a .png... good luck!" That'll change sooner rather than later though so graphic designers need to be figuring out their "unique selling proposition" asap. In any event, all jobs get replaced by tech eventually. The world is continually moving. Just ask the Pony Express riders. Or phone operators. Or, soon, truck/taxi/rideshare drivers, factory workers, food service workers, call-center workers, receptionists, article writers, coal miners, etc, etc, etc.

@@johnplaysgames3120 let's not reduce the valid concerns artists have to ai art to "old people shaking their fists at technology". The fact of the matter is that the datasets used for these programs are from real working artists who did not give their consent to be used to improve the AI let alone get paid for their contribution to it. You can do a quick google search and find artists like Greg Rutkowski had no idea about AI art and only found out recently that his art was included in the dataset. Now that the AI has reached this stage of likeness, the creators have finally allowed for an opt-out option, but we've already reach at state where the AI has created similar enough art of the artists work that it can use archived images that it made itself as reference. Can you not see the obvious problem with this? As the program becomes more and more sophisticated through the millions of art it's generating, prompts it's users are crafting, images users are selecting and favoriting, they're gearing up with the purpose of complete replacement of artists. Going to the midjourney page for example and searching for the term "artist", you'll find 0 results. This is not a tool for artists like a digital tablet or pen, it's goal is to be the artist for companies with minimal oversight and intervention from artists. It wants to be the number one tool companies purchase to save them for paying the salaries of an entire team of artists and it's using working artists without their consent to do it.

relax. the artists have already started using A.I in their work and the plus point they already have as an artist . they can take it way further than nubes

Yes, but this more controlled version could literally allow an artist to take their own portfolio as starting material and rapidly "prototype" new concepts. Speeding up some of the more time consuming work of story boarding etc.

Maybe the way philosophers no longer exist they way they did in Ancient Greece, artists will no longer exist in the future? Who knows !

No AI doesn't steal art, it learns from it, just how humans learn. You probably draw stick men with circle heads, that's you learning from someone else's style, I was taught to draw triangle heads, doesn't mean I stole it I learnt. I am all for ai

@@Uncreeperble Ai most definitely steals the art. The artist they're copying never consented to having their style copied. You're comparing learning fundamentals of art to finished designs. Once you learn fundamentals youre able to make it your own. AI doesn't do that.

@@inkman002 so if replicating the styles is considered stealing does that mean no-one can paint in the starry night style and take credit? I'm all up for a genuine chill discussion btw

@@Uncreeperble i think this is precisely where the line is drawn. Just like AI we use what we see and absorb stuff to create. However, the fundamental difference is that AI literally takes pixel of different works to create a new one. If someone was shown taking artworks and mixing them up trust me he would get obliterated if the owners found out. The difference is if he’s doing it himself, then it’s HIS. You can a little deeper, but what if i tried to make a pixel perfect reproduction of an artwork of that specific artist ? Well if he were to find out, he’d ask to be credited probably, or ask for me to take it down. Artists generally ask nothing more than credit. AI « artists » have a tendency to completely overlook the point of credit. But then, i can understand why they would also be pissed that their work is being fed into a machine that basically pumps out parts of their work to people who have not went through 1% of his learning process. Then it gets kinda personal like « yeah i want it to be as hard as it was for me » but i’m changing topic right now. It’s honestly a tough debate and i (a beginner/amateur artist) can’t exactly get my head around what bothers me with AI art. The same way digital painting came in and said « oh yeah you can do everything now no need for tools or anything, the machine has it for you », AI offers a brand new type of support to lean on and i think it’s an extremely powerful source of inspiration and a very useful tool. So you start wondering « if i generate art, then paint 50% of it myself, is it mine ? ». Well ask yourself this with other arts. If you take half a book and write the other half, it’s not your book. If you took half a movie and record the other half, it’s not your movie. I wish i could conclude with something but i can’t, i literally said everything i had on my mind, sorry for the long comment

@@lefudj4236 I love seeing other people's views on things, and this makes so much sense, so as artists you see the value in the work and skill and time it took to make the art, not entirely the finished piece🤔. With the 50 50 I would say it would be cooperative but with AI art the human still has to say what to make, so they have some credit but I get what you mean, and I don't see any solution to is AI art, art because it cannot truely create something new as we can 🥲. Eventually we will have AI people undoubtedly and we will have to decide on the line of many other things. Thanks, I'm doing AI Comp. sci. In uni. So I just like others perceptions and ideas on how real it is considered

Yeah, his forehead had abs!!

made me hold on to my papers

You know what they say, "Just two more Corridor episodes down the line..."

Imagine how it's going to be two more papers down the line

Was I the only one who at first when he was speaking , saying his name (that I am about to butcher sorry) "hello I am kalogero Hellfahïr" , I thought it was an indian accent talking about technology? (I am no native speaker but how did it sound for native speakers?)

Squeeze your papers

really the art style don't matter fact is people use other peoples styles all the time.

Well, if you think about it, when a human is "creative" they also unconsciously draws on and blends from everything they've seen and learned so far. Which is what the image generator AIs also do now. Creativity is randomness mixed with talent, and you can inject varying degrees of randomness into the AIs and the talent is what it's picked up from studying all existing art and photography.

In order to create new art styles, you need to basically "walk" the latent space. That's not possible with just text prompts. With a little bit of scripting definitely possible. Very time consuming though since not every new area of the latent space is some masterpiece new style. Many aren't even aesthetic enough for a human. Could be solved with some crowd sourcing eg. show some of the new styles and ask to pick the best one as a captcha.

@@ingeniouswild you're wrong on one nuance: the style is ultimately how a human being has observed what they want to recreate, filtered by their subjectivity. AI literally just takes what it's told to, mixes it and spits out a result.

You know, the worst part is the short-term uncertainty. I am interested in making online comics. Seeing the insane pace of AI art development has made me consider forgoing drawing by hand. The problem is, this AI thing is going to hit the webcomics world like a freight train. It is already a difficult market to break into and stay afloat in, and soon, there will almost certainly be an upheaval.

It takes more than a few second, but it's still very fast.

Yeah man I feel ya.

Incredibly frustrating. I absolutely despise it, because no one cares where it comes from if it’s faster and cheaper. It’s going to hurt so many artists. It’s not my main creative medium but I can empathize with those who’s it is.

@@solvemproblerstudios5889 Huh? I think AI is gonna be a great tool for artists to use.

The thing is that only us humans can replicate details. Yes, in terms of composition and lighting these look great, but zoom in on details like hands, fabrics, faces and slight changes in light/shadow, it's still flawed and it will probably stay that way for quite a while. As long as others strive perfection from artists, you (and me) will not be going bankrupt. I hope.

Yeah lmao, the creators of stable diffusion even said that it was illegal themselves

@@Roxxyie Where?

@@gondoravalon7540 on earth 🌎 for sure

Copyright hurts as much as it helps, maybe more, it may be time to move past it.

@gondoravalon7540 this isnt exactly what the person stated but from what I've heard (and admittedly i dont quite know the details) but these companies paid other companies to collect the data in order to avoid legal loopholes regarding research purposes.

It's pretty sad indeed

Read The Lights in the Tunnel by Martin Ford, and you want to get extra scared.

you should imagine yourself inside a revolutionary path, where the capitalistic system based on exploiting of labour transforms in an advanced communist system without wage work, money, market, where the means of production are public and people work 3-4 hours a week, enjoing a peaceful life without competition, crisis and wars; this is orders of magnitude better than the life you imagined before, struggling to make your family survive in an hyper-competitive industrial jungle of wolves. Only problem is that revolution will come with violence by the counter revolutionary ruling classes to make you remain a slave and prooduce capitalistic surplus value. So lets prepare for the battle.

Even more incentive to DEVELOP YOUR OWN STYLE! I feel you though!

Maybe commit deathpacito

You just have to get better, faster :d

@@xtay2287 those are very abstract words, kinda useless.

The only way to compete with ai is using it. Using any tool avaliable. Start learning about good plugins to improve your workflow, and trying to see how can you use ai in your process if anything to show that you can, that will give confidence for someone hiring you that you will not deliberately give them less quality work just for being a purist retrograde regarding your tools, and for you to play around with it of course.

Kinda makes one wonder at the gaps between classical greek and renaissance masters "dabbling" with marble. Maybe someone had access to a "higher power," and AI or "spirit" or gah *goes back to her spirits, brother Jack*

As neither an animator or illustrator, this is disgusting and nothing more than a plagiarizing software that people try to desperately legitimize by anthropomorphizing it. It seriously feels like there is a push to make this so.

Yeah, here I am learning frontend. Soon will start to apply as beginner/junior. But damn...

U watched cyberpunk edgerunners?

That’s why you work a real boy job

@@Justinhomii AI is coming for all jobs my friend

There should be a law to protect real artists, or else we just have to wait for capitalism to destroy humanity even further.

same with me on 3d game assets creation. :(

Become a real engineer 😎 ( Please please don’t create robots integrated with AI’s to replicate engineers )

I feel similarly about getting into programming, but there is glass half full version of this. One of things I've heard cartoonists on RU-vid mention is that it's very difficult because of the amount of work and time that goes into it so you usually can only produce short animations, and not that many of them, which is hard to monetize. Future versions of this tech will probably make that process so much quicker that if you have the skill to create compelling content you can actually produce more than 2-5 minutes on a regular basis. I've been using gpt3 and copilot for coding projects and not only does it speed up the work, it also helps me do things I otherwise couldn't do right now without spending a lot of time learning. Just need to be careful not to overly rely on it, otherwise are you really learning anything if you tell the computer what you want to do and it just does it for you. Also if you don't know what it's doing, how can you tell it's doing a good job.

Damn Mexicans-. I mean AI taking your jobs!

@@mr.sunflower3461 it will be a decade at least untill an AI can model, UV, texture, rig and pose a model in the exact precise way that games and 3D art demands. And even then removing humans from the actual production of art is one of the dumbest ideas ever. AI is a tool, individual artists with unique styles will still strive. Ai will help small teams produce more ambitious things, will it change the industry in a way? Definitely. But most people that are the loudest about AI art, won't have the know how or skillset to generate half decent usable images. The video makes it seem easy, but all of the training,iteration and people with artistic knowledge are using this as a part of their workflow not as the only tool, 9

Don't stop learning it!

@@MrJamesC if he want to stop he didnt wanted to actually learn art

@@MrJamesC Sounds like sunk cost fallacy. Why continue learning art instead of spending that time and energy honing their writing skill and output?

At least it was only one year

@@NelemNaru Perhaps because understanding more than one medium can help you understand how to apply different principles to both. Then there's the matter of being able to make graphic novels or webcomics. Being able to do both is really helpful.

Oml yeah! Gonna try this out, generating areas, enemies, people and all that

imagine an AI dungeon master, one that automatically takes everyones input and data and transforms it into a dynamic storyline complete with images and encounters

@@Enderlad THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT!

@@Enderlad That point you have a video game where you could go and do whatever you want

Oh fckk, why didn't we (me and friends) think of that, that's effing briliant ffs!! Thank goodness the comment section exists haha

Combine them together and you have the beginnings of general AI…… Jk probably not, but it sounds spooky tho.

ngl, thought of using it along with ai dungeon

Already been done. Head over to aidungeon, it's fantastic

@@JimPekarek Interesting. Thanks for the tip.

@Norma Neumann Exactly. So that we can take out the human element out. What a beautiful future. I so much love it when technology makes me obsolete.

It'll be weird to me to see that the "last bastion" against automation isn't art. We still haven't automated retail or service jobs all that well, but we can apparently make sure that the hobbies of retail and service workers become way less of an income opportunity.

11 years ? No , these companies started the real work only around 2 years ago buddy , this is just the beginning , we are witnessing a change as drastic as the one that occurred when computers were invented. Scientists are crazy.

So much creative work, especially the likes of made-for-streaming shows, have become so formulaic, I doubt that any average viewer will be able to tell the difference between AI-written dialogue and human-written dialogue. As long as there is a famous actor in the series, it’ll come off as legitimate.

The last things humans have to themselves will be hate and greed

11 years??? LOL! My dude, it's only been 2 years. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Artists are a dying breed.

Soul crushing

Don't forget, when photography was invented artists felt threatened and thought it would be the end of painters. All it did was create a new field of art and a new form of artist. It certainly *will* cause a lot of things to change, but being an artist is more than just mechanical skills. One of the jobs of anyone with a field specific skill is to convert the illogical, often contradictory, demands they receive from customers and bosses and make something that gets to the core of what they want. Don't look at it as a competitor, but as a very clever tool, just like people without an artistic bone in their body couldn't pick up a camera and suddenly make award winning art, you won't see this suddenly make artists obsolete. Grab yourself a copy of Stable Diffusion and start trying to make it create art, then consider how you can use it in your own art, both to make things better and make things faster. The more you learn the tool the more you'll see how it isn't going to replace all artists, only the ones that insist on not learning new tools and instead choose to directly compete with what the tool can do in a non-artists hands.

@@Sylfa don't really think that is the same as this. They are literally ripping off specific artists styles. I don't remember photography specifically targeting individual artists. This could replace illustration artists who have a hard time getting work to begin with. I know because I am an illustrator.

Hey I'm struggling! I want to use this but I don't understand how they got the tool to know who Sam is. Thank you!

I think it's hilarious. They were the same people who laughed at truck drivers and retail workers getting automated away and proclaimed how creativity could never be automated. Now that everyone has the tools to create great artworks they are the ones on the wrong side of the automation barrel.

You're welcome, we software guys will continue to replace other jobs

I don't really see it as bad though, as a digital artist. I've used AI to help with inspiration, color combos and fantasy outfits (Midjourney's really good at making fantasy clothes), and just generally at making ideas that can be put into my art. I view it as moreso a new artist out of millions of others rather than one that can replace everybody. It still has its preferences when making art, or at least based on my experience with it, and you can still recognize its "art style" sometimes

@@genericname1235 But the really funny thing is that we're all going to be out of a job, truck drivers and artists alike. Now that's hilarious!

@@genericname1235 who the fuck laughed at truck drivers and retail workers? Don't invent people to validate your opinions.

Well, with AI, it's inherently impossible to get 100% control unless it's paired with a digital art application, so...

you think the corridor crew cares? they shilled nfts and other stuff that is not good either before

@@danielawesome36 impossible for now

@@MikePhantom Unless the AI can read your mind(the thoughts. Not your brain-the organ-mind you) and know exactly what you want, it's not possible to have _100%_ control. You can get probably get to 99.99-something percent, but not 100. The brain-mind connection is much more complex and weird than we ever thought.

@@danielawesome36 That's what compositing + img2img is for.

I share your struggles, don't give up

As someone who has been riding the wave of media’s technological progression for almost two decades, trust me when I say that these tools are only going to help you achieve your vision faster. You bring the voice. From asset packs to non-destructive digital editing, artists have been more equipped to create now than they ever have before. Learn the tools, stay current with the times, and remember that it’s your message that matters, not your technique. -Niko

@@CorridorCrew I agree. Also the process of making art is more interesting than the art itself. With AI, there is no process. Not something we can relate to, at least.

Society will have to learn to spot the difference between mass produced and real human art.

@@CorridorCrew 🙌❤️

yeah, it's crazy! I keep hearing about this stuff geting better every day.. soo cool.. does seem like the next step would be video... imagine if you can just make a show\movie without a camera.. just tell a computer a story... Or if it could just take in a book and adapt it... with enough stock footage and stuff.. doesn't seem like too much of a stretch...Computer re-release of Final Got season as even Ai didn't like it ;)

People say "speed up the work", but would you find your career/life's passion enjoyable if all you're doing it fixing AI-generated hands and making minor adjustments to 99% completed artworks?

@@gosunflower in essence, it depends, most artists use references to complete get concepts out anyway. the real bottomline of implementation comes down to the individual view on the matter. but nobody has time for that, so if this can cut corners you can bet your ass some slimy board directors will want this instead of human work.

@@shadowsketch926 yeah but this is a copyright nightmare from my limited understanding so while I understand using this as a reference I don't see how it'll be used for more than that. For example what happens when the AI spits out something really similar with the work of another artist and they missed it and get sued? Another thing is that in regards of copyright there was a"Monkey selfie" fiasco and the courts decided animals cannot legally hold copyrights so in this case is this a public domain or not? It's a headache for the slimy board directors that are probably salivating atm :)))

@@tinaandro1178 well, about the first thing, right now you can paint something in the style of any famous painter out there, and they can't do shit about it since it was your own work, at worst, they could try and make a case against you if you made something way too similar, however (using the solid snake style as example) if the character ain't the same, and it's just the style, there's really nothing you can do

@@mk-ul5tv They can do something because style needs to be learned and for that you need to use data that is copyrighted. So yes - in some sense the final picture will be based on information the AI programmers had no right to use in the first place.

Honestly… I think coders are the new artist in some ways

@@amsrremix2239 Coding sucks.

If you can draw a hand, they might hire you for some tweaks.

Aye. Consider it a tool for artists to use.

@@spitgorge2021 how

It will kill some, so artists will have to adapt

it's scary :(

sadly it will do some damage

I can absolutely see concept artists being very screwed over

Bro I'm more worried about music

Same. I was so wrong....

nah, it will only take the jobs of those who can't adapt

lol just got laid off friday "downsizing"

You are not wrong. The arts WERE the last job ai WOULD take. There's not much left, really.

@@hayothegunosaurus no, it will take all but those few at the top who are controlling the art direction. There will be little need for a dozen concept artists when a single person can do 10x the amount of work in half the time

Don't climb the ladder then, become the new local Disney or whatever target you aspire to be. I'm too from third world, this is an opportunity to have a studio without the cost, to tell story people won't pay me to realize, for people who want to hear it.

Don’t fear the technology use it to your benefit use it in your own at work

Maybe abolish capitalism then.

@@robertwyatt3912 don't have time for that.

Don't be discouraged Danish, become better. Become ten times more productive, sure each client pays less but you'll make ten times as many sales, get ten times the amount of experience. This will explode art into everything. I'm a tiny roleplaying game creator trying to make a book. I don't have cash to get someone good to make cover art. Now maybe I do. Less work for you. Less pay for each, but ten times as much accomplished. Ten times as many sales.

someone needs to run the ai and do it correctly.

Yeah, people have so many pictures of themselves just... out there these days. There is absolutely going to be an underground (or not so underground) rule 34 scene cropping up.

Photoshop has been around for decades, all this does is make it easier/faster.

@@notabanana2914 I tend to agree, also face replacements in videos (deepfake) are getting better every day - the technology is already there, and is slowly becoming available to everyone. The important thing, imo, is to spread the knowledge and awareness that a picture or video can be totally artificial, regardless of how realistic it appears, and is no proof.

Well can't do anything about it now

Whaddya mean it'll be useful for 3D artists? A.I will replace them too.

Art is done by a human. There are no two ways about it. Anything else is just algorithms and programming doing what it’s supposed to to generate what it’s told to. It makes a cool image sure, but it is not art. The value, appreciation and fascination in art is the fact it came from another human who devoted their hand at making something that many people can’t and are good at it. Years of practice and hours upon hours of work to make a piece that people can look at and see something new every time they do and take in every detail. There is none of that with a computer and knowing the image you get is from some words anyone can type and a press of a button. For that reason ai will never be as impressive or be considered the “best artist” or art period, because at the end of the day, it took no talent, skill or practice. The very definition of art is as follows, “the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.” There is no substitute for human hands in the field of art.

@@Vyable__ Is it relevant if you as the audience can't see the difference? F.e. the profession of a blacksmith became obsolete with CNC milling and welding robots. Nowadays there are only a handful of blacksmiths. I like to draw, but the skill feels irrelevant and meaningless after seeing this.

@@japie8466 Just draw because you like to draw. It doesn't have to have meaning in terms of popularity or demand by people. Many Artists draw or create because they love to do it. Some may be fortunate enough to make a career out of it, but at the end of the day, they do art for themselves, and they post it because they're happy with it or keep it in their library for only themselves to appreciate. You give it meaning, not the audience. If they appreciate it, cool. If they hate it, then that's just how it is. You see many Artists say the same thing all the time "create because you want to or love to" cause that what expression is, even if it's just a hobby. Take Scott Sava or the Corridor Crew as examples. They do what they do because it started with them being passionate about their field of creating art. They share their experiences and inspire others to create, even if it's just for yourself.

Watching your demise

@@Vyable__ No, it's art. Way more art than modern fart I mean modern art.

Yeah it pretty much killef my career on the spot Wtvr theres Always people hiring at walmart

Well they NEVER cared, and they won't with this either unfortunately, worked in the concept artist industry for 12+ years and by the time the commission get to you you are already essentially there to realize whatever they wanted. It's a completely top down relationship with little wiggle room. Even less for the luxury of "morals" you might raise a fuss and they can- at best play pretend to give a shit, which they still don't or just never call you back and go behind your back and find a replacement without telling you and leave you hanging. reciprocal

All AI models have significantly improved over the past year, such as speech recognition, data compression, etc. It's accelerating scary fast. Just 1 year ago this wasn't even possible

@@pepsico815 next year they will be able to generate video too, imagine the pornography we could create with these models omg!

adding an insult to extinction

Join the club - music producer

@@migueld8970 The day AI can successfully make good music and becomes mainstream is the day I die

@@robooz famous last words of a short lived life.

Personally as an illustrator I see AI art as a tool to be utilised. I've already used it for starting commissions and developing concepts - it really is a fantastic development in our medium, because guess what - I don't wanna take hours drawing a background either haha! In the hands of us artists it's far more valuable than in the hands of anyone else. gonna make my general turnover nearly double.

You can also hire artists for some of that. You'll get something way more unique, and you support one of your fellow humans.

This is exactly correct. Smaller commissions and freelance jobs will disappear. Getting into the big leagues that will still pay human artists will be even more difficult.

@@con4581 no one is going to need you to do stuff though. If the ai gets too good it'll just do what you're doing

As an artist, the way I see it is the people looking for AI art weren't really looking for something original anyway, they either cant afford what an original artist can bring when they try their best. AI art has a lot of unintentional Jank to it that people are going to start picking up on, and become unsatisfied with. At least with a live artist you can change/invent your style as needed, develop new methods of rendering things, while AI still needs to copy someone's style. Better yet, you as an artist can take the stuff AI spits out and use it as a template to make your own your own skill better in less time. Not great with light and shadow? Ask an AI to show you exact reference of what the lighting should look like in a given situation rather than hunting through Google image search, and then do it in your own style rather than spending hours noodling your work trying to figure out what's wrong with it. I don't think we should fear anything but the complacency the tech could create.

can you suggest me the other four plz

These programs are dream machines, they should absolutely be used to come up with new original concepts.

They already have. Animation studios have started laying off a lot of their concept artists for the Dall.E software recently. Source: a friend of a friend in the industry. Definitely alarming.

It already has. 2 directors I work with are using Dalle 2 for their pitch decks. Much easier than trying to find the right image in a haystack.

That doesn't sound unreasonable

I can honestly see this as a helpful tool in concept design, you could sit all day trying to dream up a new creature for say a video game your working on or input your prompts and get thousands AI generated idea and something there could be new and interesting and then you can build off it. Kinda like cutting out the middle man for creating new ideas. Question is will these concepts lack the creative soul that human directed ideas have?

efficiency just for efficiency's sake, like companies werent already exploiting artists to work faster and faster, with no regard of the end result

Ight i guess im down

Yessss

To be completely fair, even artists replicate what other humans have already done. AI doesn't put a piece of this picture and a part of that painting together, it creates new things, based on the information it gathers from images. Much like how we as artists make new things, but are also "tainted" with our knowledge of the world and other works. I don't even think there is such a thing as being able to credit anything for an AI promt, as it's just a result out of a huge library of millions/billions of data points.

@@captain4318 there is a difference, in (carefully) choosing, which elements you want to incorporate into your own style or having an AI randomly pick. I think, the ethical problem is, that the artists where never asked to be part of creating this tool.

@@bilderzucht sure, but I can promise you that workers in any field haven't been asked if they wanted machines to take over/lighten their workload. If that were to be done for any possible advancement we would still be in the middle ages.

@@captain4318 I do agree with your views, but what probably Nico(and myself) meant is, If someone does create an AI Generated image of something using a famous artists style THEN the OG artist should be credited, and it should also be mentioned that it is an AI Generated image, because you never know who might use it for what purpose. With great power comes great responsibility. And in these days of faking everything, being aware of whats real is of utmost importance

I think you overestimate how much people actually care about copyright, and how possible it is for people to take down copies of their own art, especially when they’re not a major corporation. A company in China could make a game and use AI to copy an American artist style, and there’s really nothing the American could even do about it

Yeah, though in its current state it gets a lot of things wrong. You're still going to get better results with studying real life objects and models.

@@krunkle5136 Or wait another month for the next generation of AI art tools to come out

Exactly what I'm using it for, simply reference.

@@FreakStyler hell yeah. Soo it'll take inputs like character art, background info, 3d posing interface etc.

My friend would lose her mind if she could use this for references.

I don't get you, people. Nothing easier than hands. Should I be a professional artist?

Don't fret. AI models used in May 2022 couldn't draw faces.

@@moonik665 lololol I was going add "...yet. Wait until December"

@@brexitgreens hand is the my fav part to draw It just scary that ai is this good but this scuffed

@@moonik665 I don't know if that's true. DALL-E 2 specifically disallowed generation of realistic faces for supposed safety reasons, before changing that policy, but the AI was more than capable of doing it at the time.