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Is This THE END of Guitar Music? 

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@TheArtofGuitar
@TheArtofGuitar 2 месяца назад
It's just beginning. The complexity can only get so extreme before we crash back to the basics that speak to the soul. :)
@ouie-fl4qo
@ouie-fl4qo 2 месяца назад
Hello art of guitar man
@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei
@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei 2 месяца назад
I don´t know the point of this video... you can basically write a song with 3 chords on the guitar and conquer the world. The Animals did it, Kurt Cobain did it, Blink 182 did it and nowadays a lot of artists do it... No one cares about complexity or new guitar techniques tbh, only guitar nerds. But that´s the case for decades, nothing new
@marsrivers
@marsrivers 2 месяца назад
Amazing answer
@Maplefoxx-vl2ew
@Maplefoxx-vl2ew 2 месяца назад
yea listen to Satriani.. he is a legend .. he will shred but he also plays simple basic melodies that everyone remembers over top of epic chords.. tha's why he's the best all time, he was literally Steve Vai's guitar teacher, Vai is guilty of just shredding too but he also can do the melody stuff like For the Love of God or Bad Horsie for example.. does polyphia have any basic melodies or is it all just guitar masterbation?
@liviofraschetti4713
@liviofraschetti4713 2 месяца назад
Like at the end of 80s ,with only a difference ,..back then metal and rock was mainstream and many virtuoso guitarist joined bands and uses their skills and style at service of songs …
@cecilmcgillicutty7160
@cecilmcgillicutty7160 3 месяца назад
Few things make me feel older than when a young person refers to that time period as "the late 1900's"
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@cecilmcgillicutty7160 HAHAHA Maybe I'll start saying early 20th century
@figueroa661
@figueroa661 2 месяца назад
I thought the same thing 😆I thought "nineteen-hundreds" refers to the period between 1900-1909, so that was even more confusing!
@JayceAllanGuitar
@JayceAllanGuitar 2 месяца назад
No kidding. 🤓
@altuervo
@altuervo 2 месяца назад
​@monfloral huh? 20th century is the 1900s, are u gonna make vids on 1930s jazz?
@Itsjoemaddock
@Itsjoemaddock 3 месяца назад
Something I miss is the electric guitar as a pop instrument. I feel like this virtuosic online guitar culture is a result of the instrument becoming more niche. My favorite guitar parts are more “hooks” than “licks,” y’know?
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@Itsjoemaddock I'm a sucker for a good hook so I feel that
@GeorgiyM.
@GeorgiyM. 2 месяца назад
That's why I really got into japanese pop music. Tastiest guitar stuff I've ever listened to.
@thefallenfaith1986
@thefallenfaith1986 2 месяца назад
You might want to give a listen to Action Rock / Scandinavian punk'n'roll. Gluecifer, The Hellacopters, The Drippers, The Gasolines, Iron Lizards, Chuck Norris Experiment, Sewergrooves, Supersonic Deuces and many more. You can find most of them on bandcamp under the Action Rock or High Energy Rock sections.
@zinAab79
@zinAab79 9 дней назад
Guitar have almost dissapeared from pop music, but when it is on more pop rock music there are some bands that still use it as a good pop instrument. For example I love the "guitar solo" in Can you feel my heart by Bring me the horizon, is only three notes or so, but it fits extremely well in the song to give pass to the end section. Same with some solos in Rammstein, is so minimal but so tasty and perfectly placed. I think that modern guitar culture have some guilt of not using guitar at its 100%, but is just an instrument, if the song only needs a basic lick don't try to make it complex for the sake of it. That is not gonna make you a worst guitarist but a better musician.
@MB-or1kh
@MB-or1kh 3 месяца назад
Guitar is supposed to compliment the song. These short clips are typically a-melodic note vomit that are immediately forgotten. I can remember an Alex Lifeson solo, because it augments the song and is an integral part of it.
@TheCastellowsLive
@TheCastellowsLive 2 месяца назад
Speed and note density? Who cares. Rhian Teasdale of Wet Leg makes guitar music, adds lyrics that you can sing to and enjoy. Mostly quarter note power chords! It works in the songs. Hester's simple riffs are perfect for the songs. Check out Wet Leg's Obvious with Rhian's literally opera solo. Human expression does not need so many notes .. IMHO for my taste. Did I enjoy Albert King at NAMM? Absolutely! BB at Toronto forum? Yup. But emotionally simple guitar songs connect more. Too many notes can be 'wanking'.
@musicbychanc3
@musicbychanc3 2 месяца назад
alex lifeson and Rush are my favorite guitarist and band of all time and i still love Polyphia. idk where i stand in this debate. maybe both are good?
@michaelchen1046
@michaelchen1046 2 месяца назад
So guitar can’t be the lead instrument in a song???
@enzoarayamorales7220
@enzoarayamorales7220 2 месяца назад
@@michaelchen1046no it can be the point is there’s a right way to do it and a wrong way there are many example in this video that show the wrong way unless that’s your taste
@zinAab79
@zinAab79 9 дней назад
Do you even know styles like Flamenco? guitar have multiple styles. In some of them is the main protagonist while in others is secondary
@khrys_maxwell
@khrys_maxwell 3 месяца назад
Spot on. All you have to do is look at the history of shred and see the backlash that happened in the early 90’s: no guitar solos and an emphasis on notes which do matter, have melody, and express emotion.
@snogglemonkey
@snogglemonkey 3 месяца назад
In pop perhaps, but the 90's, Hair metal had some of the most brilliant guitar solos and innovative riffage ever written.
@fellen_
@fellen_ 3 месяца назад
The thing i really enjoy about music at the moment is that outside of the main trends there are pockets of people enjoying and making music from every genre there ever was. There's enough people with enough passion for each sort of music that it'll always be around and be enjoyed by new generations who in turn will add to it and carry it on. So while trends change I'm more confident now that sounds I like won't be gone forever they will just be grooving in the back room for a bit.
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555
@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 3 месяца назад
I don’t often see dudes writing hit or memorable songs. In the past the virtuosos were typically part of a band. Then in the 80s we started to see a lot of guys like Vai, Satriani, Yngwie where the shredding was the focus. But they still made albums with complete songs and guys like Satriani had a lot of mainstream success even among non guitar player audiences. When I watch Internet guitar players, it seems kind of weird to me that some of them have signature models and things from major companies when their contribution to music is 30 second technique and VST demos. No one outside of guitar land has ever, or will ever know about them because they aren’t really making music. It’s more like they’re making ads and “look at me” videos aimed at other guitar players for attracting sponsors so they can make more gear ads. They basically exist to compete with each other for manufacturer attention so they can get paid to sell people gear.
@SteveMeiers
@SteveMeiers 2 месяца назад
It's circa 1984 and Frank Zappa (himself one) introduces his new "Stunt Guitarist", a kid named Steve Vai. It's 1955 and it was Chuck Berry. It's circa 1948 and it was Les Paul. 1967 Jimi Hendrix. FFW 2021 and it's Polyphia. We all need heros. Long live the guitar! Stunt away! I'm 69 and i love the new Gen of guitarists. And the women playing now, no longer a guy thing only. Way cool! Great video!
@BHPOfficial
@BHPOfficial 29 дней назад
Best comment on here, I totally agree!
@aplanebagel
@aplanebagel 3 месяца назад
Good take ! I say it's time for bass guitar centric music ;) -a bassist
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@aplanebagel That time might be coming! I did a ranking a while back and someone suggested The Omnific which is the first time I'd ever listened to a band with a dual bass lead. Nothing but respect for it
@TheDiamondBladeHD
@TheDiamondBladeHD 2 месяца назад
Im absolutely up for it, the world needs to see what BASS is able to do when fully utilising its potential
@aplanebagel
@aplanebagel 2 месяца назад
@@TheDiamondBladeHD so far the hardest part was to find a guitarist open to not being the driver while staying amazing. So I learned how to guitar..
@RascalMcascal
@RascalMcascal 2 месяца назад
_muse enters the chat_
@Ron_Pollack
@Ron_Pollack 2 месяца назад
you are right actually.
@Tr1s
@Tr1s 3 месяца назад
Instagram guitar playing and creation of music for artistic endeavours are totally different in my opinion. Hopping on a trend after someone else has already done it better than you will mean you will most likely sit in their shadow indefinitely. It’s just been done enough at this point, we need someone to make something new. There’s a lot of innovation inside of these genres for sure but the instrumental guitar stays in these genres…. Someone’s going to stumble upon something new soon
@artistaccount
@artistaccount 3 месяца назад
Don't worry bro. I'm the new 2020s Hendrix ima change guitar like nirvana ended hair metal in the 90s.
@fortuneneverfavoredme1165
@fortuneneverfavoredme1165 2 месяца назад
I feel like we have a “I bet you can’t play this” plus a “look how good I am” attitude nowadays, no one just plays to play anymore, people are just trying to show how good they are in 1 minutes
@masonvankraayenburg
@masonvankraayenburg 2 месяца назад
Doing my part. Investigate the music series I started releasing this year. Surprised you mentioned composition as a pro for current guitarists. That’s one of the biggest aspects they are missing IMO. Composition is storytelling and overall arrangement. Not just a bunch of complex measures stitched together. I admire the technical side of guitar that is being explored but indeed as you mention, it’s stagnating both soul and storytelling. Great presentation on the subject! All we need to do is play the sounds of our souls instead of copying and comparing. We’ll get to greener pastures.
@nicholasng319
@nicholasng319 2 месяца назад
Being a good guitarist is all about telling a story in what you play. How the guitarist is able to translate the emotion of the piece to music is the most important criteria to being an artist.
@richarddresden6869
@richarddresden6869 3 месяца назад
I can't fault any of your points. Great work!
@Sams911
@Sams911 3 месяца назад
Meh.. who needs the likes George Benson, Jimmy Page, Steve Lukather, Jimmy Hendrix, or George Carlton when you have Taylor Swift...
@grantlund9339
@grantlund9339 3 месяца назад
✨Thank god she saved us✨
@danger_the_kid
@danger_the_kid 3 месяца назад
Pop music is garbage
@matsmcmats
@matsmcmats 2 месяца назад
Taylor swift isn't guitar music though. Silly comparison. Also, female pop stars have been around since forever.
@jz5005
@jz5005 2 месяца назад
That chick can shred!
@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei
@GeorgeCardoso-mh2ei 2 месяца назад
This! I don´t know the point of this video... you can basically write a song with 3 chords on the guitar and conquer the world. The Animals did it, Kurt Cobain did it, Blink 182 did it and nowadays a lot of artists do it... No one cares about complexity or new guitar techniques tbh, only guitar nerds. But that´s the case for decades, nothing new
@blockerton1778
@blockerton1778 2 месяца назад
I feel like anything in general acts like a metronome, a constant back and forth in time we will always push ourselves until we can’t anymore and go back to the basics either to start fresh or make a new discovery
@ehdrootofbeard4411
@ehdrootofbeard4411 3 месяца назад
This is why I don't have time for people who don't understand the appeal of AC/DC
@squeakeththewheel
@squeakeththewheel 3 месяца назад
or ZZ Top
@gab_gallard
@gab_gallard 2 месяца назад
The band whose entire discography sounds the same? You could have picked a better band to make your point. AC/DC sucks and always has. Most overrated band in the history of hard rock.
@ehdrootofbeard4411
@ehdrootofbeard4411 2 месяца назад
@gab_gallard See... you just don't get it. I listen to all sorts of Thrash, Prog and general fast/heavy stuff. But there's always time for AC/DC.
@pat1u
@pat1u 2 месяца назад
@@gab_gallardpowerage is slept on for that reason it’s honestly a great album
@MW-dd8vk
@MW-dd8vk 29 дней назад
@@gab_gallardTheir musicianship isn’t the reason why people like them. It’s their energy, groove and stage presence. Keep things simple, make it swing.
@bluwng
@bluwng 3 месяца назад
Non guitarist don’t care how complex something is to play. The average persons needs to be moved in any manner, romantically, aggressively, wildly these new guitarist don’t move people no one wants to dance to their music, crack open a beer and go wild, Bob their head, roll down their car window and blast the radio. Pretentious busy music and is technically complex is all it is.
@lansoyanthan7652
@lansoyanthan7652 2 месяца назад
My thoughts exactly. As a non guitarist myself, these new "Math rock style excessive finger tapping, percusions, 7 string riffs etc" is just so forgettable. Don't get me wrong..... things will always evolve and I'm sure a lot of people like these type of sounds, but right now... for me.. it's all technique with no soul!! It's a total 👎 .
@Red_Wright1357
@Red_Wright1357 2 месяца назад
​@@lansoyanthan7652I'm one of these people who like Ichika, Manuel Gardner, Tim Henson, etc. I'm a non-guitarist, and can't understand why people think they are soulless. I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE. I'm just curious, who are some guitarists or bands that you consider that has more soul than these new guitarists?
@lansoyanthan7652
@lansoyanthan7652 2 месяца назад
@@Red_Wright1357 no worries bro... I like Tim Henson and Ichika too.... But not as much....I find them too monotonous after a while (no offense 😁) It's like they make music just to show off their technique and not the other way round. It's like they're "Artists" and not "Musicians". But like I said earlier, I know a lot of people like them. I have friends who love their music too. It's personal preference after all. Currently, I like Matteo Mancuso a lot. Maybe my age is catching up on me.
@Red_Wright1357
@Red_Wright1357 2 месяца назад
​@@lansoyanthan7652 Okay, no offense taken. Lol. I came from years of listening to Post-Hardcore, metalcore, nu-metal, black and death metal; felt stale after a while, then came to prog metal and then math rock which just felt different, unique, sometimes just indescribable. The speed and technicality of their guitar-playing, paired with different tones bring a different vibe or atmosphere to their music that I haven't heard from others. Like if I compare music to painting, the other non-math rock/prog metal are still-life paintings, and prog metal and math rock looks like abstract/surrealism/impressionism, which is more enjoyable to me. I'll check out Matteo Mancuso.
@Derekanic.
@Derekanic. 2 месяца назад
​​@@Red_Wright1357Try listening to bb king, jimi hendrix, Eric Clapton. Edit: I also agree, Matteo is a beast. He's great.
@mrkainnobel
@mrkainnobel 2 месяца назад
My theory is it's harder to be original because so many acts have come and gone - so many riffs have been used, especially "easy" riffs, leading to people having to be much more virtuoso than previously. It's not that they WANT to be complex, you HAVE to be complex. And fast. At a point, everybody used the standard E tuning, now people are going Drop D, Drop C, etc. This could be to be more "edgy" but I think it more has to do with the fact that many E tuning songs have already been done, so you HAVE to switch to something different, otherwise you're just another Iron Maiden or Eric Clapton clone, or even a Kurt Cobain clone - nobody wants to be a clone. That and the collapse of the traditional record companies that tailor to rock music. Alan Kruger (RIP), former economic advisor to Bill Clinton, also made a good point in his book Rockonomics about how much of it boils down to basic economics. He may be a beaurocrat and not a musician, but his book is all about the business side, so I do recommend reading it. Prior to the great depression, you had big band music and many people - even non-musicians - had a piano room. Then you drop to the 5 piece band, the 4 piece band, then to rap (typically no live band) and now it's usually some kid in his basement with a computer. Kruger said it himself, the future of rock music is some kid in his bedroom with a computer, the future is computer programmers with real and/or digital instruments (I'm one of those "kids", albeit I'm 40. Yes, I fit the description Kruger is talking about, and I'm not even trying to be a famous musician - just a hobbyist.) It's kind of screwed up, really. I don't think anybody WANTS it this way. Todays greats are RU-vid folks, or on BandCamp, SoundCloud, etc. Most people are not even in a band (unless it's a "cover band"), not touring, not working with a record company. Record companies are for country music and rap now. I could go on and on.
@JD-vj4go
@JD-vj4go 3 месяца назад
Music has always been a hard career. It's just a different kind of hard now. There are so many great musicians from the 70s and 80s who did everything right and went nowhere and ended up working day jobs. For most folks: The past sucked. The present sucks. The future will suck.
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@JD-vj4go A bit of a pessimistic outlook, but there's truth in it
@JamesDorsett11
@JamesDorsett11 2 месяца назад
Doing my best to keep things simpler and more about the vibe rather than complexity
@satanism_rocks
@satanism_rocks 3 месяца назад
yeah, it pains me to say this, but these guys are taking away the musical aspect of music
@alkaliforever9051
@alkaliforever9051 3 месяца назад
Nah, I think it's so much better. People are always say less is more, but I think it's quite the opposite. I don't mean to be rude but the people who usually say less is more usually aren't very good themselves, but I think people who have virtuosity can play those simple solos people love so much a lot better.
@satanism_rocks
@satanism_rocks 3 месяца назад
@alkaliforever9051 I'm mostly talking about the super fast playing, it's not melodic, rhythmic, it's just not musical, it's just showing off
@alkaliforever9051
@alkaliforever9051 3 месяца назад
@@satanism_rocks I definitely think so too, and a lot of the time that is the case, but bands like dream theater, chon, Plini, are all so fast and shreddy but are more melodic and sophisticated than anything I've ever heard.
@MrAflac_1
@MrAflac_1 3 месяца назад
@@satanism_rocks lol what, ichika def have melodic and rhythmic in his fast playing, your ears aren’t good enough to hear them that’s all. They’re so used to slow and boring playing that you can’t notice the beauty in fast playing. And ofc he also plays slower stuff
@ej8736
@ej8736 3 месяца назад
@@alkaliforever9051 This! I feel like the showy aspects like look at me ruin music but give something complex because you want to write something complex all power to ya
@joebustos6413
@joebustos6413 2 месяца назад
Guitar has been evolving and its getting better. Separates those who actually take the time to practice vs those who pop out copy cat cooky cutter licks.
@NeverWolf
@NeverWolf 2 месяца назад
Our current technology from the field of AI is not "AI", it's just decades old machine learning algorithms with enough processing power. All the sounds you hear in machine learning music are just lifted from other sources of music and then an extremely convoluted data filter is placed on it to turn it into "blues" or whatever you wrote in your prompt.
@petrecejeffery5920
@petrecejeffery5920 3 месяца назад
Awesome job with your video and editing!! Love the views you mentioned and the points made when speaking on this topic!!!💜💜💜
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much!!
@AndoSan69
@AndoSan69 3 месяца назад
I mos def do not fit in the niche of super fast complex shreddy guitarist. I totally agree with your points.
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@AndoSan69 You keep doing you homie! As I was developing my style, you along with a few other artists showed me the value in staying true to your sound and forging your own musical identity. There's beauty in standing out
@GlinkBetweenWorlds
@GlinkBetweenWorlds 2 месяца назад
its a bubble that is going to burst and the next wave of music will come out of live shows. Theres a young and active scene coming out of Austin
@doktabob328
@doktabob328 2 месяца назад
I was born at the beginning of rock music -1955. Having watched and listened to the whole story, while I pursued my own musical interests- as I still do - I gotta say your assessment sounds a lot like my own thoughts. I’ve become a lock-in guitar obsessive in recent years, lol. I began experimenting with synths and microprocessors in the seventies. I play various instruments.including sitar, bass, eight string and keys, plus a starship of synths 😊 According to Spotify I listened to 187 genres last year ! I can’t believe there are that many genres. I think we are having a guitar renaissance. There’s more out there than just the flashy, attention getting stuff. Same as any decade in that regard. Regarding AI, the problem with the current direction is training data. It becomes an aesthetic feedback loop. It is also so damn close to plagiarism, using all that material to train the AI in the first place. It gets worse when they have to resort to synthetic training data, or when most material online is already AI-generated - as was once oft quoted ‘Pop will eat itself’. Don’t fret about it. There are untold thousands of fine musicians working in obscurity to contribute to the next collective thought form. ‘Same as it ever was’. I subscribed. ✌ 👽 🎸
@dylarononguitar8209
@dylarononguitar8209 2 месяца назад
Great work!🎉 Spot on. It’s very pleasant listening through your talking, in a chilling tone and pace. I feel lots of other RU-vidrs are in the game of ‘Words Density’, same way as ‘Notes Density’ for guitarists. Additionally, I appreciate that you chose to leave the ‘Consider subscribing, or not’ to the end. Yes, I just subscribed. Keep the good work on!
@akaboo69
@akaboo69 3 месяца назад
I play like an 80s guitarist. The modern stuff annoys me. I can play fast but I have a classic style yes I can play modern stuff
@SRMoore1178
@SRMoore1178 3 месяца назад
Polyphia - Excellent guitar technique, fast notes, complex arrangements, and interesting to listen to. Problem is, I never care to go back and listen to any of their tunes a second time. Same as with all these new young guitarists with similar playing styles. Just a single serving is enough. Too much and it gets annoying.
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck 3 месяца назад
@@SRMoore1178 i hate that style...
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck 3 месяца назад
ya i like that style and it is very 80s. ...guitarist were the cream of life...
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck
@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck 3 месяца назад
@@SRMoore1178 Polyphia and those kind are only popular cause kids buy into that mindset...they see that thats what great guitar is supposed to be like...but they selling the lie and people are buying...complex fast food is still no good for you...
@musicbychanc3
@musicbychanc3 2 месяца назад
@@SRMoore1178 man i love polyphia, they're the only of the modern virtuoso shred bands that i come back to. they're not just soulless and actually make enjoyable catchy music imo
@GoingMarco
@GoingMarco 2 месяца назад
It seems that you are talking about music that prominently features guitar and not pop songs that contain complimentary guitar.. I dont think it's dead, its just innovative song writers aren't playing guitar as much. The age of math rock, prog rock really guitar focused work was pretty brief in pop music history anyway.. Acoustic and electric guitars are still represented in popular music, just maybe not prominently.. It will just take a person who is good at writing pop songs to make it popular again. All these fretboard diddlers will always be niche, most people dont understand or value that kind of music outside of how impressive it is to see fingers moving fast..
@BrettShadow
@BrettShadow 3 месяца назад
I am only half way in the video but I think one of the major catalyst in the transformation of the playing style itself has been the overall decline of the band, and even more so the live instrument band. With the current state of pop music, the high quality sounds of simulated instruments, the financial collapse of the music industry, and the "creator" industry, there is no longer a focus or need for the "band" format. Most live gigs for guitarist are now hotel bar or busking style performances that are primarily solo performances. The creator culture provides the ability to connect to the audience 24/7 along with bedroom studio capabilities heavily favor the individual. With this the guitar IS the entire musical experience and must fill the entire musical space. Without a rhythm or percussion section, there is no need for a lead guitar. So the percussive style, the finger picking complexity, and the method innovation has adapted in a way that one person with one guitar can carry the entire performance. This is a new world of guitar as even in the acoustic solo performances of the past there was often backing accompaniment. So the death of the band has contributed to the ideological and tonal shift in guitar play as much or more than anything else.
@ziajok5183
@ziajok5183 3 месяца назад
That's true but if you'd like to check out some slow pace but still guitar only music I recommend Ariel Posen. He also has some band's record's, but I just love his solo ones
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@BrettShadow Absolutely love this take! I've considered this point but not to the level of detail you've expressed. I completely agree! It's quite difficult to pinpoint which aspect attributed the most to this shift but in conjunction, they've all played significant roles. The rise of bedroom artists plays into this heavily as music groups have shrunk to minimal numbers with a large majority of them being made up of only 1 or 2 individuals. And as you've mentioned, with the lack of traditional structures to fill the sound (drums, rhythm, lead, bass) the single artist is left to fill the accompaniment themselves. So when you pair that with affordable at-home equipment and versatile digital plugins, you get an abundance of solo artists sharing their music through the most financially adequate means -- the internet. This, of course, would have a massive influence over how today's music is structured and conveyed. You've given me something to think about! Thanks for the perspective
@trolley4388
@trolley4388 2 месяца назад
Art is communication. I wonder what a musician who creates incredibly fast compositions with millions of notes and all the technical nuances they know wants to communicate: maybe that they're skilled? Like, look at how good and cool I am? It’s like a writer who, in every piece they write, crams in all the difficult words they know regardless of the theme. To me, it seems like a narcissistic exercise born from an inferiority complex, probably worsened by the permanent showcase of social media. No more substance and content, just a designer outfit shown off at every opportunity. In my opinion, this completely undermines the very concept of art and communication and becomes something else: look at how good and beautiful I am! And that's all I have to say.
@cliveburgess4128
@cliveburgess4128 2 месяца назад
I have a feeling it will come back to earth eventually, melody rules, I'm 67, long time Mahavishnu fan, GIT guy in 78, Jeff's sense of melody depletes all the shredding nonsense, John made it work, it's what made his music, what I hear today is technical with no point! Yes was technical, but it made a point, a sound, a feel!! Thanks for posting this!!
@Alex-qc9mx
@Alex-qc9mx 3 месяца назад
That Slash live tone is so sick btw
@noobynoobytv5853
@noobynoobytv5853 2 месяца назад
After 27 years of mainly shred guitar I switched to bass. The overwhelming amount of guitar related content and the tendencies described in the video contributed greatly to my decission.
@ravensharpless
@ravensharpless 2 месяца назад
I saw a recent edm set on DEF TV where the dj brought his guitar buddy to play along to some songs. I think interest is growing again lately
@ottobalder7560
@ottobalder7560 3 месяца назад
Just bumped into your channel. I'm here to stay.
@brettliebermanmusic
@brettliebermanmusic 2 месяца назад
Spot on. A lot of new stuff is amazing to watch. But when you take away the visual element, it doesn’t hit the same.
@Maplefoxx-vl2ew
@Maplefoxx-vl2ew 2 месяца назад
write memorable melodies.. thats the only tip i will give you no one needs to shred cuz no one remembers shreds except for guitarists.. think like a non guitarist for a min or 2 dude i compose music for a living. take this tip bro
@snuppssynthchannel
@snuppssynthchannel 2 месяца назад
My main quarrel with this current day approach is its lack of spontaneous freedom, and its no mistake mentality, gotta hone your improvisation skills, cant do that when you aren't searching as John Mclaughlin called it! feels like they are speed-running a game, doing all the neat tricks in the books that they have picked up and they let that guide how they write instead of enhancing how they write with the chops and skill that they possess, when they should approach the guitar board as an open canvas, there is a strange commercialism attached to this hyper technical guitar music, its polish polish and more polish, and gotta get in line behind this and that player and do and learn this and that technique you know, instead of finding your own way on the fret-board, like Tim Henderson actually did, which is commendable, so be more like him, learn some of the musical concepts and techniques but don't try to sound like him or upstage him, find your own voice! Keep on making dense and fun and bonkers music but don't sell into the spectacle, that is all that i can say, you know!
@Ryan_Wiseman
@Ryan_Wiseman 3 месяца назад
I'd disagree to an extent; however, I do think that the virtuoso playing style is a well-known historical trend if you've studied a lot of music history. Much of western music's development, and even globally, the ability to have a high level of skill on the instrument is why there are many legendary composers that still live on, hundreds of years later. I'm not even touching other countries' music, which often, can be just as, if not more complex, than much of western music. Even when we go to some of the earliest western bands, which have origin in jazz, the music that was composed was extremely complex, to the point where we have entire educational institutions just to study that music. I do agree that music is likely to swing like a pendulum in the opposite manner, as music functions a bit as a call and response culturally. Sort of like grunge was a change from very technical styles of rock, I have no doubt that instagram guitar styles will eventually switch toward a preference in chord texture over flashy playing styles, kinda like a post-rock development in the digital era. I do think that as we start to consider what truly is virtuoso proficiency, we'll start to see a shift toward that other side of the pendulum you mentioned. I've noticed it with my own music, a significant uptick in views amongst some of my virtuoso pieces that alternatively consider, "what is virtuoso playing truly".
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@Ryan_Wiseman Very well said! We also have make note of the fact that the time period you're referencing incentivized musicianship and being capable of performing at that high level. I hate to make this claim without evidence, but spending a life time dedicating yourself to deeply understanding the invisible complexities of an instrument (intricate phrasings and compositions) are not likely to have the extraordinary payoffs they did a few centuries ago unless you're able to showcase a style in a new light that a large group of people find value in. Today, you're rewarded for playing the "popularity" game which rarely has a measurable correlation to genuine musicianship. And do our history books even have room for more legends? When it comes to the names that live on, it seems as though if you weren't one of the first, you might as well have been last. I haven't spent a great deal of time exploring this topic so there may be some holes. That cultural call and response however is exactly what I was getting at. Rock was the rebellion against early classical music and as you mentioned grunge and punk were developed in response to more technical styles. In the next few years we'll soon get to see what lies on the other side of that shift especially with advanced technology being added to the game. Loved your comment. Gave me lots to think about!
@NihilQuest
@NihilQuest 2 месяца назад
Very interesting. While I've seen most of the artists you've flashed in this video, I wasn't aware they are a part of some new wave of guitar playing that happened in the last years. It's not something I would care to watch or listen repeatedly and to me it's just kind of another iteration of what Malmsteen or Batio were/are doing. Cool and impressive, but it's not engaging enough.
@fakepotato4875
@fakepotato4875 2 месяца назад
i like math rock but sometimes some older style stuff is nice
@ANIMLFIRE
@ANIMLFIRE 3 месяца назад
You can play a thousand notes but if you don’t feel any of them, it’s useless (it’s not technical speed, it’s feeling and passion)
@waimanlam3035
@waimanlam3035 2 месяца назад
The late 1900s hurt.
@gunnarschmitz1889
@gunnarschmitz1889 3 месяца назад
I totally get where you're going with this video, and all your points make sense, but this brand of modern rock-jazz-classical-metal fusion isn't the only instrumental guitar music. There's plenty of tasteful instrumental guitar music out right now that has an audience. People still find music other ways than from short form video content algorithms being projected at you. Word of mouth, or at least recommendations from online blogs and peers on social media bolster many sustainable careers. Outside of the metal/fusion oriented world there are a ton of instrumental or 50/50 vocals/instrumental acts like Billy Strings, Julian Lage, Molly Miller, Adam Levy, Molly Tuttle, Cory Wong. This stuff might be boring, or quiet, or corny to people into the more technical metal stuff, but it is instrumental guitar music being performed and consumed in 2024. Good topic, man. AI won't replace us quite yet, we need to focus on what makes our music human and interesting.
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@gunnarschmitz1889 Certainly! I wanted to touch on this but didn't want the video to turn into a 20 minute ramble. I absolutely love some of the artists you mentioned and you're right, there are other ways finding music outside of algos pressing you. What makes this modern style unique, in particular, is the widespread appeal it's had to those who aren't as well-versed in the world of guitar music. I can't count the amount of threads and posts I've read with people getting into guitar solely to play songs by popular modern guitarists, Polyphia especially. Which leads me to believe it has to be because of the initial shock factor that their music gives off. I'd argue the artists you mentioned primarily attract either guitarists or those who really love guitar-based music. Their technicality and artistic capabilities may not be as visible to someone who hasn't developed some level of understanding of what's going on musically. I'm honestly so intrigued by what the future of guitar music will look like when the trend hype dies. Once the smoke clears, I think there's gonna be a lot of cool new artists with creative sounds building off of this foundation.
@gunnarschmitz1889
@gunnarschmitz1889 3 месяца назад
@monfloral yeah most of the people I listed would be harder to find if you already weren't really into guitar music. It's hard to know that'll pull people in. It'll be interesting to see what happens next. Trends are pretty cyclical, I'm sure once the super technical phase dies down, maybe some more groove/noise based stuff will get big for a while.
@Dezenaamisnietbeschikbaar
@Dezenaamisnietbeschikbaar 2 месяца назад
I see why these type of players get succesful on social media, but I don't understand how their songs become succesful. They're super skilled and I respect them a lot, but as music they don't make me move. It's kind of like a circus, it's super impressive and I enjoy a circus every once in a while, but I wouldn't go to a circus everyday.
@ayjay579
@ayjay579 2 месяца назад
I’d like to think it will keep going but I think we’ve maxed out on what it can do and instrumental music has been dying for decades. I think your comparison to piano was spot on and that’s the direction guitar will probably go. An instrument for music nerds that is only played in music halls but never on an average venue stage for casual listeners. Nobody is lining up to hear a professional pianist or saxophone player at bonaroo and the same is becoming true for guitar. It’s starting to be seen as a band geek instrument and those instruments never become cool again once they’ve been banished to that realm.
@matheustilapioso
@matheustilapioso 2 месяца назад
For those who want to hear something really fresh but not from this time, I really recomend the songs "Bom retiro" and "Abandolao" from Flavio Rodrigues, wich is a brazilian flamenco guitar player. It doesnt sound so flamenco, the harmony is really catchy and there are so many good choices for melodies. He is great, please listen
@jamesstent
@jamesstent 3 месяца назад
yeap i agree with all ur points here
@normandy2501
@normandy2501 3 месяца назад
Literally everything I've wanted to try for the first time or pick back up has had a "Is X dying" video made about it this year lol.
@david.cutipa
@david.cutipa 2 месяца назад
From the top of my head i can think of the evolution of internet guitar like this: 2005-2010: paul gilbert, ygwie malsteem, steve vai, john petrucci (clips of instructional videos and live performances such as g3). 2010-2015: tosin abasi ( the "djent/proggresive metal" wave); tom quayle, rick graham, guthrie govan (the "fusion" wave) 2015-2020: plini, polyphia, ichika... and this is where ive lost track now that im 30yo and just playing straight ahead jazz lol I now mateo mancuso is getting big right now on the fusion/jazz side
@thelicc1306
@thelicc1306 2 месяца назад
Heard of mike stern or kurt rosenwinkel? Try upside downside or Zhivago
@MichaelBemmels
@MichaelBemmels 2 месяца назад
I have mixed feelings about the nature of music being shared on the internet. It's great that content can easily reach wide international audiences, but the presentation of music as "15 second clickbait entertainment" is really quite sad, and completely missing the actual point of music IMO. All I can do is make music in a way that is meaningful to me, and appreciate whatever community of others do the same, even if it's not very popular. Thanks for the video, lots of interesting food for thought! All the best to all the guitarists out there!
@tannerin
@tannerin 2 месяца назад
you could just listen to good new guitar music instead
@JayceAllanGuitar
@JayceAllanGuitar 2 месяца назад
As someone coming from "the 1900's" I can tell you that the trend to play fast has is nothing new. Even back in the 80's, playing fast was always synonymous with being "good". Also, I could argue that guitar music ended in the late 90's early 00's. Popular music features very little focus on guitar. The instrument itself has been around a long time and will likely continue. Think about the saxophone. There was a brief time back in the 80's (again), where every other song on the radio had a sax solo. Now, you'd be lucky to hear one in a pop song, and if you do, it maybe be a synth or MIDI plugin. But I'm sure there are plenty of bands out there that have horn sections. It's just become a niche. Guitar will also probably be a niche. The guitar really took on major popularity because of artists like The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, The Who...etc. And those artists influenced artists like Eddie Van Halen, and he influenced artists like John Mayer. But with each generation it seems the guitar becomes less and less interesting to people perusing music, because popular music is highly digital, and A.I. will only exacerbate that. But when you consider "classic" rock guitar, that genre (more like an era than a genre really) is now a niche. Maybe a group of young people will rediscover it some day and it will become popular again. Maybe as music does become more A.I. generated, actually playing a physical instrument will once again become something impressive, because so few people will do it, or even know how to. Maybe people will yearn to sit in a room with an acoustic band that is playing music instead of listening to some computer generate music. In that case, we could see a resurgence in the popularity of guitar (and bass, and drums, etc.). I know for my generation, there are still plenty of folks that want to play and hear guitar focused rock music. The fancy pants instrumental guitar music is good, don't get me wrong, those guys are talented for sure, but a lot of times it's like watching a robot performing. Maybe music will go back to when it was imperfect. When there was no click track and the tempo ebbed and flowed with the drummer and musicians just synced with one another based on the groove or feeling. The pendulum might swing back the other way.
@istrijanhomopit9318
@istrijanhomopit9318 2 месяца назад
BAND-MAID is the future of rock.
@jz5005
@jz5005 2 месяца назад
Kool channel. You may find this offensive, but I find it very refreshing to hear an accomplished black musician who’s so articulate. I can’t even understand the majority I’ve heard before. I recognize there’s no right / wrong way to talk and languages continuously evolve. But I’m not going to apologize for my preferences.
@derrickmickle5491
@derrickmickle5491 2 месяца назад
Thoughtful and original analysis and commentary. Excellent video.
@AceBambam
@AceBambam 2 месяца назад
it's like after the 80s shred era the 90s went to the power chords era
@TheMountainDemon
@TheMountainDemon 3 месяца назад
Great observations. I hope your predictions come true.
@Rgdonaire_07
@Rgdonaire_07 2 месяца назад
Fast guitar playing is boring to me. I don’t like shredders. For me there is no substance, just pure technique.
@reservoirdog1
@reservoirdog1 Месяц назад
This guy gets it
@throwingshapes6490
@throwingshapes6490 2 месяца назад
Some interesting points there... I think what killed guitar music, is the same thing that killed live music generally. Which is music software and the internet.
@coldloner7453
@coldloner7453 2 месяца назад
Don’t worry Mon, I’ll bring back power chords to the front with powerful vocals.
@larswillsen
@larswillsen 3 месяца назад
Here's a great tip - trust your ears, heart and decide from that .. we're all different - The only really important thing to say is respect your fellow humans, even if you hate it - They are people too :-)
@CGray-hw7su
@CGray-hw7su 3 месяца назад
Screw what anybody else does, do you…creators CREATE!!!!✊🏾
@אוריה-בושי-לוין
@אוריה-בושי-לוין 3 месяца назад
as someone whose trying to learn and become good in guitar this stuff just scares me
@garyfreeman7122
@garyfreeman7122 3 месяца назад
'being good' on the guitar is very subjective, and I'd argue there's like a hundred different ways to be good. I spent years learning how to play like Steve Vai, and by the time I got there, I found it kind of boring. These days I'm much more about rhythm & melody, because fundamentally, good music relies more on those things than complex guitar masturbation. My best advice to you is to learn as many different styles and techniques as you can, everything from punk to classical to swing to metal, hell even cheesy pop songs are worth it. Somewhere along the line it'll develop into your own style. You don't need to worry about being 'as good' as anyone else. They have their thing they're good at. Find your own
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@user-vh7ks3xc1j I second @garyfreeman7122 Being good at guitar will likely not provide you that fulfillment if you base your "good" off of someone else's. The people that are the most acclaimed rarely reach that status because they beat out everyone in a battle of speed and complexity, its because they had a style or a set of techniques that separated them from the noise. You'll never win trying to beat someone at their own game which is why you create your own. Just stay on your own path. Best of luck to ya!
@אוריה-בושי-לוין
@אוריה-בושי-לוין 2 месяца назад
@@garyfreeman7122 thank you for this comment. I genuinely appreciate it You're right, I didn't get into music to beat some random guy at a speed competition, I got in it to just do my thing, and enjoy it (and possibly one day to try and influence the music scene hahah) Thank you for your message:)
@אוריה-בושי-לוין
@אוריה-בושי-לוין 2 месяца назад
@@monfloral spitting facts hahahah Thank you! :)))
@zinAab79
@zinAab79 3 месяца назад
Having a new wave of guitar music where complexity and experimentation is the rule sounds like the guitar player wet dream, specially considering they were like two decades complaining about how simplified, basic and trivial guitar became since 90's (their words, not mine). Having new guitar music like Polyphia is great, but it requires to develope a taste for it, not only guitar players should work hard but your ears too to appreciate it, and I love it. The movement moved on from teenager mentality to something more mature like Jazz, not accessible at first but extremely rewarding once you learn the codes and language of compex guitar to decode the music and get the feel of it. And what I wrote is only half true because a lot of the most popular guitar music right now is extremely simple to follow and quite accessible, just listen to acts like Sleep token or Bring me the horizon. If you don't vibe the complex guitar music you still have a lot of mainstream rock with very simple guitars, so everyone have the possibility to listen the guitar music they want.
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@zinAab79 This modern age has truly opened up a fresh world of sounds for new audiences to engage with and I'm with you. If anything, all its done is bring a new style to the forefront. What's fascinating about the stage we're at now, is that modern prog seems to have created this divide between guitarists and listeners of guitar music (of course not all). I've yet to understand it entirely but it seems to come from a lack of appreciation for the styles and structures that make up modern guitar (complex chord phrasings, flashy runs, exaggerated productions). 80s rock is beloved by both guitarists and listeners. Similarly, jazz is rarely scrutinized but respected by both guitarists and music lovers regardless of whether or not they've "acquired" the taste for it. I wasn't around when 80s rock was the epitome of pop music but I wonder if that style of music underwent something similar.
@tristangorin8087
@tristangorin8087 2 месяца назад
There’s a lot of good points here but I disagree abt the value of speed and over-complexity, it’s more so just freshness. If you start with just a unique unheard of chord it could ring out with nothing going on and still get viewers locked in, vs boring pentatonic
@aryakdangol5582
@aryakdangol5582 2 месяца назад
I think you are looking after the wrong artists. Chek out Plini, Intervals or Periphery. Polyphia is for more virtuoso centric music. Modern Music is far more tasteful, soulful and has more composition sophistication imo
@KILLKRYPTOOfficial
@KILLKRYPTOOfficial 2 месяца назад
Commenting for the algorithm, really interesting stuff!
@bubbles3161
@bubbles3161 2 месяца назад
Well said! It’s true. We have a 7 second attention span with to much content.
@truescotsman4103
@truescotsman4103 3 месяца назад
Overall, composition is the most important aspect of making music. You can fiddle around making noises or you can compose music in a coherent way that's at least entertaining and listenable for someone who's interested. If it sounds good it is good. I don't think any of these other metrics are viable for judging art. Art is free we can only innovate when we work outside the box. You've pointed out that music seems to progress and innovate while sort of stagnating at the same time. Key elements like overall genre and note density seem to be very fluid. A lot of this has to do with how fast the views young people have on music in general change. The most innovation and fastest progress comes from the newer generations while the older guys are more involved in defining existing genres and being a part of established musical culture. We need to stay focused on the main fundamental elements of music which are rhythm, harmony, and melody and get away from genre and note density and things that really don't define music but are a technical aspect of how music is made. I've spent my whole life playing guitar and one of the main struggles I have is getting away from the technical and popular aspect of playing and focus more on the spiritual and artistic aspect of being a musician.
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@truescotsman4103 The ability for anyone to easily monetize their content has really incentivized this push to make music that favors views from younger audiences which in most cases is the quick, flashy stuff. I completely agree with your take, the question is, would it even be possible to go back to that time as everyday life gets faster by the day. Can you really build a following by playing off of old techniques. Sure some have done it, but I'm not sure if that applies to most. I also love your wording to describe the generations. Across most industries, younger generations innovate, while older ones continue to elaborate on what already exists. Truthfully, we need both, but if the aim to create value, that will almost always be found by creating something new. If you look back on the age of true musicianship a couple hundred years ago, if you wanted any sort career as a musician, you had to be skilled enough for someone with decent money to hire you since music was a fairly expensive commodity during that era. The music, art and literature of the time reflected that. In a similar way, the music that's popular today reflects the fast paced, overly stimulating nature of society. Finding a balance between the two is likely where the sweet spot lies
@Nobddy
@Nobddy 3 месяца назад
Stop being a guitar player and start making songs with your guitar. Don’t just make riffs. Finish songs.
@callmeroy2172
@callmeroy2172 2 месяца назад
I always wonder how you online guys play live with other people?
@travvhunter
@travvhunter 2 месяца назад
The difference separating what the truly popular guitar hero ala Tim Henson and Polyphia boys from the rest of the gang like ichika and the other shred lords is catchy melody alongside actual songs people want to hear, while you hear tons of super talented technical gods not everyone listens to their playing outside RU-vid vids . I think the norm will return back to melodic playing mixed with the virtuoso stuff. When you see some random kid shred lording and thumb thumping some ridiculous piece you get dudes commenting “want to be Tim so bad” for a reason. But it’s only up from here with what the new kids are going to be practicing
@GameIsMud
@GameIsMud 3 месяца назад
The 10 seconds of John Mayer and BB king easily had the most feel out of every clip played here.
@CaptHiltz
@CaptHiltz 2 месяца назад
Play the way you play. What is going right now with guitar playing will change. It always does and that's a fact. I've been playing for 45 years so I speak from observational experience.
@SeaSerpentLevi
@SeaSerpentLevi 2 месяца назад
I feel like ai is gonna enhance artists rather than kill them. Just like it does for language learners. Plus you no longer need to wait for years of basic exercises or foundational stuff to start being able to having fun and creating cool stuff, which is also very important because it makes easier to commit to something if youre having a good time with the process of learning it. Lots of very bad art are coming our way, but hey when digital illustration became a thing that happened; when free game engines became a thing that happened; when affordable music production software became a thing that happened... and so on. Thats just another instance of the same thing happening, only now you can actually talk to the computer. Such impressive tech lol.
@tomm5023
@tomm5023 2 месяца назад
I have seen covers from these madly skilled young guitarists that make my head hurt. Speed and technique doesn’t equal music. While all is perfectly executed the soul of the song is destroyed.
@davidcook1057
@davidcook1057 2 месяца назад
I think you nailed it. Real talent will be more sought after, and more valuable then ever. AI will end up being a useful tool and not a replacement for authentic and soulful talent.
@ej8736
@ej8736 3 месяца назад
While I think guitar skill such as speed and shred ability is amazing and I respect the hell out of it. I don't really enjoy it I like music like Radiohead, The Smiths, Joy Division even though it's simple it's melodic and very different. Point two. When I play guitar I want to feel an intense emotion and slowly kinda like a pink floyd song. Am I saying a f*ck ton has no feeling? No, but non musicians care about feeling something, while speed and technique are great for hooks on marketing. I feel like skits and other stuff are better for marketing (See Opal In The Sky) My Point? Non musicians most of the time don't care about speed and technique they just want to feel something in the end, it's easy to do that with 50+ notes hard to do with 4 notes
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@ej8736 Understandable. Where an artist really gets my ovation is when they're able to create that feeling while still being able to subtly express some level of complexity. Jazz is pretty much known for this but Mateus Asato is a modern example that's spot on when it comes to this technique. I'm a huge Joy Division fan and while the works were minimal they got the point across incredibly well. And as you mentioned, probably the greatest benefit that comes from exaggerated guitar playing, is the marketing Also some would argue it's harder to communicate that feeling with more notes since each one would have less emphasis than if there were fewer. I'm sure that's up for debate though
@ej8736
@ej8736 3 месяца назад
@@monfloral exactly if both can be done then it’s so beautiful, dream theater is a good example of this. Lots of Jazz too as you mentioned. And imo I think another guitarist who has this simple complexity would be Johnny Marr of The Smiths just a personal idle because of how he picks. I could put lots of classical musicians here and jazz musicians too
@serialrain.
@serialrain. 3 месяца назад
Excellent points made! I really would like to believe that the current trends will develop further, with players unlocking even more incredible methods and stylistic choices; and I hope that the sphere doesn't completely stagnate into homogeny. Eventually, the repetition of algorithm-chasing, note-dense 'candy riffs', as you put it, as well as the development of music-focused AI will push artists to think and feel further. I'm very excited to see what incredible things artists will create within the next few years! and onwards. Creatives will always keep on prodding the boundaries. Keep up with the great videos and analysis - love the channel!
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@serialrain. Right there with ya! It's probably a couple years out but we'll inevitably see a new fusion rise to the scene. There's already some pretty unique ones in the works from smaller artists
@r0bophonic
@r0bophonic 3 месяца назад
I think your analogy to the handwritten note is spot on. Authentic humanity, meditative pieces and live performance will really stand out in an overstimulated world of click bait and AI music. I’m waiting to see if your generation begins to rebel against having your attention constantly manipulated for profit.
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@r0bophonic I'm glad the analogy came across well! Most of the people I communicate with are older but of the people my age I've been able to observe, many of them aren't even aware of the manipulation that takes place. The ones who do understand it will probably just end up being the ones that join the game in hopes of capitalizing off of that lack of awareness. Competence is scary hard to come across these days but who knows. Really hoping I'm wrong on that one because what a world that would be
@EDWINPIERCE168
@EDWINPIERCE168 3 месяца назад
Algorithms, marketing power of social media, etc, but also sound recording technology. the history of centralized labels owning the studios, manufacturing, distribution, payola, etc. gave them the power to deprive the guitar community. Shrapnel records vs. early 2000s mtv. MTV was so biased it left a vacuum, and when daws and interfaces got cheap, and people all got hi speed internet with algorithmically driven marketing, it got easier to fill that vacuum. So I agree. Also, you can get a Roland Rubix for like 100 bucks. It may slow down and speed up as the demand normalizes, but personally I’m just excited. Being an obsessive old weirdo guitarist is not as cool when everything is synth pop.
@gx1tar1er
@gx1tar1er 2 месяца назад
It's just basically 80s all over again. When shredders started getting too over the top.
@danieldonovan7166
@danieldonovan7166 2 месяца назад
I love the funny saying: If your guitar does not have a headstock on it then I am not listening to your band 😂
@sheeteemouse3746
@sheeteemouse3746 3 месяца назад
Music is done. Normal life is done
@kbgrevolver4563
@kbgrevolver4563 3 месяца назад
Good video. Think I'll go the opposite direction with my guitar. Instead of going in this pretty, sweet, and atmospheric complex guitar playing, go for something a bit more uncomfortable atmospherically but still powerful and organic. Something that would be difficult for AI to faithfully replicate. I'm thinking a combination of Jimi Hendrix, Acid Bath, Helmet, and Dethklok
@szupelak
@szupelak 2 месяца назад
That "1970's" clip was actually from the 90's. I AM getting old...
@fuzzfuzz4234
@fuzzfuzz4234 2 месяца назад
So playing a million notes fast in randomly different genres is whats valued today…. Thats awful.
@NelsonBlakeII
@NelsonBlakeII 2 месяца назад
This is bunk. This thesis is a mess. It's just hand-wringing over AI and instagram/tiktok guitar disguised as an informed view of trends. I like your channel. You're a smart guy and I enjoy this thought process but the end result is bunk. Tiktok guitar is entertainment and distraction. The average person, even the average person who likes guitar, does not gravitate towards spectacle. You go to a live show and you see what really moves people. The Internet is a factor but don't mistake it for the real world.
@KyleByquist
@KyleByquist 3 месяца назад
one of my favorite guitarists i've recently discovered is Mk.gee -- sounds like nothing else being released today
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@KyleByquist I'm surprised to see a few Mk.gee fans in the comments. Super skilled artist and guitarist
@FrankScuderi
@FrankScuderi 3 месяца назад
i cant tell one musician from another anymore
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@FrankScuderi What a time we live in
@jasonkesser
@jasonkesser 2 месяца назад
Was that AI music during the credits lolol, bout to get down in an elevator loool
@JayDayKay
@JayDayKay 2 месяца назад
Oh can it we’ll be fine
@GR8_S8N
@GR8_S8N 2 месяца назад
riffs > acrobatics. people remember ramones, rolling sones, david bowie songs even after hearing it only the once. you know what they'll never remember? some kid hitting every note on the fretboard in a 15 second tiktok vid
@CastanedaSound
@CastanedaSound 2 месяца назад
I prefer Congolese, High life music, and other Afro variants guitar wise personally.. I don’t care for fast guitar at all, or this new heavy jazz fusion prog-metal but I’m glad it exist now
@williamgeorge2580
@williamgeorge2580 2 месяца назад
Rock music is moving into its jazz phase: Dudes showing how many rare chords they know. Music for snobs and rich people.
@CasualGameDev
@CasualGameDev 3 месяца назад
I haven't even watched the video yet, but just based on the title, I completely disagree. I am in a party cover band that has 2 guitarists, keyboard, bass, drums, and 3 vocalists, and we make anywhere from $4000-$6000 a booking, with at least 2-3 gigs a month. If people are willing to pay that much to see a COVER band, there is no way that 'guitar music' is going anywhere, even if its not new guitar music per say
@monfloral
@monfloral 3 месяца назад
@CasualGameDev I can't fault you if you made the comment before watching the vid but "the end" more so applies to the decline of musicianship that is becoming more apparent across artists. Live music is definitely the market that counters the overstimulation of the internet so it makes sense that people would be continuing to invest in that. The question becomes will live bands (guitarist, drummer, keys, etc) make a comeback or will guitar music just keep changing to adapt to what's trending. Hearing your take from the perspective of a gig artist is pretty interesting though. It's quite possible that live bands will become more favorable as more of the world becomes increasingly digital and music becomes more produced. Comparing a full live band to the state of guitar music is a bit apples to oranges but I think the premise can still hold true. Nonetheless, I see the argument.
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