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Is This The Hardest Led Zeppelin Bass Line? [tabs & tutorial] 

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@arnoldfernbladst3875
@arnoldfernbladst3875 Год назад
Thanks for posting this and breaking it down! Your videos are getting easier to comprehend and it's clear you're spending a lot more time on making them.
@stevenordstedt2535
@stevenordstedt2535 Год назад
John Paul Jones and all my favorite Bass Player’s of all times in the 60s 70s and even the 80s what an innovator, Bass Player keyboard, piano mandolin guitar, 12 string guitar, amazing studio artist.
@teeoh9192
@teeoh9192 Год назад
This song is on my bucket list to learn. I know the main riff, but getting that bridge down, AT SPEED, would be a dream come true!
@mikeedwards1959
@mikeedwards1959 Год назад
I'm now 64 years old, and for the past 20 years I've been playing it wrong,as in I've not been playing the open e. In my defense we didn't have the internet back then 😊 or great teachers like yourself.
@jasoncherry5849
@jasoncherry5849 Год назад
I agree it helps tremendously when you have a teacher like Mark to go over the fundamentals and then cover those fine details that we tend to overlook. Like finger position! 😂. I’m 47 and Ive only been playing for a few years but Marks lessons along with the Tabs and other RU-vid channels have been a tremendous help in my learning process. We all want to play like J.P.J but then we wake up and realize we are mere mortals. Now back to practicing. 😅
@scottbubb2946
@scottbubb2946 Год назад
Same here. About 20-25 years. That album had some absolutely killer bass lines.
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 Год назад
👍Interesting Mark. I play that little bit different; when moving up in half steps, instead of playing Mixolydian scales, I kind of outline the minor seven chord without the third and emphasis on the root note, and then when I get to the C, I do the same thing you do, oddly enough lol .. so, I don’t know, I never thought it sounded bad. Nobody complains, I just chalk it up to my style😉. The artists don’t even copy themselves exactly most times when they play live, so I don’t think it’s a crime if I don’t sweat over it. Also, I don’t try to hit the extra root notes between 1&2 or 3&4, since it’s cleaner sounding to me, and easier for me, so I let the guitar do it and just keep the steady beats.👨🏻
@bethlehemeisenhour5807
@bethlehemeisenhour5807 Год назад
I know what you mean, in the 80's we played everything by ear that wasn't ours. We didn't do bad, I just thought, " You play as good as your speakers"
@scottbubb2946
@scottbubb2946 Год назад
@@bethlehemeisenhour5807 I actually started on drums, but switched to bass because a really good band I wanted to join needed a bass player. I took one lesson. I went and talked to the guy about taking lessons and he told me to bring an album with whatever song I wanted to learn on it. So I did. He sat and figured out the song and showed me how to play it. So I thought, "Hey, I can do that." And that was my first and last lesson. 🤣 I have to say, it was well worth the $5 I paid him.
@bassman494
@bassman494 Год назад
Great tone! Sounds so clean and punchy!
@StephenWillcock
@StephenWillcock Год назад
Excellent bassist - excellent teacher! "Co-ordination" section is extremely useful.
@user-ir2bj3re1z
@user-ir2bj3re1z Год назад
This is one of my favorite Led Zeppelin songs. Thanks for the lesson.
@laljaz159
@laljaz159 Год назад
There are also ghost notes in the main riff (during the "pause") which a lot of people ignore.
@chrisrobinson679
@chrisrobinson679 Год назад
I dont think its their hardest bassline, but its frustrating. Love that advice on "i cant play fast enough" ..."try playing slower" HA!
@michaelanthony9068
@michaelanthony9068 Год назад
“A little chromatic spunk at the end”. I love it !
@cgrovespsyd
@cgrovespsyd 9 месяцев назад
Damn. You’re good! Best bass instruction on the interwebs!
@johnstraley9057
@johnstraley9057 5 месяцев назад
The chorus is the warm up I must run through before every gig.
@thevirtualworldofgaming3345
Has got to be one of the best bass teachers ive heard from
@dulgee
@dulgee 5 месяцев назад
this is great! can you do The Lemon Song? its twisting my brain and my fingers!
@NelsonMontana1234
@NelsonMontana1234 5 месяцев назад
Yep, those scales are fast and give me trouble unless I'm properly warmed up to it. JPJ was a great musician.
@johnpatitucci7919
@johnpatitucci7919 Год назад
One of my favorites to play!
@alderi9356
@alderi9356 4 месяца назад
There's a full mixolydian scale on the G in Pink Floyd's "young lust."
@marudebaka6041
@marudebaka6041 Год назад
Great video, but the A scale is actually a major scale, not mixolydian. He plays the A major scale twice, then the next two scales are both mixolydian. There are videos with the original bass boosted and if you slow down the playback it becomes clear that the A scale is a regular A major scale. I have been working on this line for quite some time, and even when playing it by myself it just sounds correct to play major then mixolydian. Otherwise, fantastic lesson. Thank you.
@caramelpants
@caramelpants 11 месяцев назад
I think only the B is mixolydian, A and C straight major. Maybe. 😀. Actually, the second scale section is definitely mixo on all three.
@klaiejah
@klaiejah Год назад
Fantastic- thank you 🙏
@sylvaingagnon3211
@sylvaingagnon3211 Год назад
Thank you, Mark.
@maxponsetis1948
@maxponsetis1948 2 месяца назад
ingenious
@Musouk66
@Musouk66 Год назад
That tone is very impressive. I have a jazz bass and assume it's just both pick-up fully maxed on tone and volume?
@docbob1182
@docbob1182 Год назад
Gr8 stuff! And how much you asking for that bass? lol
@Cowdog1
@Cowdog1 Год назад
Annnnnnd, one minute in, I'm over my head. Hahahahaha... back to my lessons.
@dorianreu
@dorianreu Год назад
Thanks for the lesson Mark! Maybe I'm wrong but at the second B Mixolidian scale I hear a C intead of B as the last note.
@Bassdriver71
@Bassdriver71 Год назад
You can also start the 1st part with your index finger. Thanks for the video 🙂👍
@scottbubb2946
@scottbubb2946 Год назад
Infectious Grooves did a version of this that starts out with just bass, played slap/pop style by Robert Trujillo. It's 118 bpm. I have a hard enough time trying to play it at the original tempo. 😅
@kevinplante1667
@kevinplante1667 6 месяцев назад
Jones doesn't play the high octave on the f# verse part, just thumps on the low f#
@scottkretsch4887
@scottkretsch4887 Год назад
Hey Mark, a music theory question for you: why does the Mixolydian Scale pattern work over three different chords, A, B, and C? How is that possible?
@jasoncherry5849
@jasoncherry5849 Год назад
I love this song and I’ve always wanted to learn how to play it. I think this will be a great challenge to practice and learn, even if I never sound as good as J.P.J. I still want play this song from start to finish. It would be great if you could cover some Thin Lizzy songs in some of your lessons. There are so many to choose from but if you only cover one then please hit “The Boys are Back in Town”. I’ve been trying to play that song for months and it makes my head and my hands hurt. I’m afraid that I’m going to disturb Phil’s spirt with my awful butchering of an amazing classic rock anthem.
@scottkretsch4887
@scottkretsch4887 Год назад
I’ve played those “damn scales” for over two years and never seem to be able to play them consistently. I’ve tried everything except the suggestion of start out by playing just one segment of one scale and so on. I’ll see if that helps. Thanks.
@scottkretsch4887
@scottkretsch4887 Год назад
Wait, doesn’t John Paul use hammer-ons to breeze through the scales? That’s how I learned it. What say you, Mark?
@billyroche1951
@billyroche1951 Год назад
JPJ is so underrated.
@atomkraft69
@atomkraft69 Год назад
A tune that has been giving me problems is "Dream Fantasy" by Loudness.... 😐😐
@ryplay08
@ryplay08 3 месяца назад
It would be easier if you played it with a pick, I’m sure John Paul Jones originally played with a pick anyway
@8ulls3y3
@8ulls3y3 Год назад
Also Good Times, Bad Times.
@cesaraugusto8630
@cesaraugusto8630 6 месяцев назад
Achilles last stand is the hardest.
@jeffreedy2605
@jeffreedy2605 Месяц назад
SORRY, that's being played incorrectly in this video..... I''m serious...
@mylescourier4459
@mylescourier4459 Год назад
That low E isn't played every single time in the main riff Its hardly played at all in the song and only played with finesse and for effect ~ coloring the main riff😮
@mylescourier4459
@mylescourier4459 Год назад
Original Studio Recording ru-vid.com/group/PLMmd10177iHvxz_xRVdDqJfIHtX01mNwN Alt Mix ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iYSQZ8O6RxU.html Live 71 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-joPO5qBFbuM.html Live 72 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RlNhD0oS5pk.html
@josephbiancorosso3179
@josephbiancorosso3179 4 месяца назад
It’s not the right scale. It’s A B C C# E F F# A.
@xpatsteve
@xpatsteve Год назад
I must have played this song over 100 times in a band way back in the 70's (yeah, I'm old and it's been ages) but I had to pause about 2 minutes in, grab my bass and see how I played it. Made me feel good, even after all these years, to know I've been playing it with the exact finger pattern you described. Thanks for letting me know I've been doing it right all these years. 😁
@PeterTea
@PeterTea Год назад
I would imagine that the bass line on the Lemon Song would be one of, if not the hardest.
@stuartmoore6310
@stuartmoore6310 Год назад
That's the one!
@grantrogan
@grantrogan Год назад
Miles harder. Tried it from a book years ago. Stunning bass playing (not mine 😂)
@xpatsteve
@xpatsteve Год назад
Absolutely! Really shows the influence they got from Blues artists. In some old interviews they often said they always thought of themselves as more R&B than rock.
@sebastianhamann9846
@sebastianhamann9846 Год назад
If you think about it that bassline is really just blues improvisation.
@caramelpants
@caramelpants 7 месяцев назад
The Lemon Song is a great bassline, but it isn't particularly difficult to play. Hard to memorise, because almost every phrase is different, but there aren't any real technical challenges. I would agree that this section of the Immigrant Song is the hardest JPJ line to play. Others mentioned below, like Black Dog and Ramble On are pieces of cake by comparison (at least with my fingers)😀
@michaelanthony9068
@michaelanthony9068 Год назад
QUESTION: I’m not a distortion on bass kind of guy, but I do like the tone you’re getting here. What is getting you this distortion? Thank you Mark. You are the best.
@BigChillBass210
@BigChillBass210 3 месяца назад
I think most of the tone is coming from the bass itself (pickups and the strings) more than any distortion.
@StevieBassFingers
@StevieBassFingers 3 месяца назад
Wow! Such a clear explanation and great tips. Lovely bass tone too. Thank you.
@jonathanzeppa2824
@jonathanzeppa2824 Год назад
Mark this is great!!! I have been wanting to learn this for ages!
@wasteyelo1
@wasteyelo1 Год назад
Great lesson. I think "Chromatic Spunk" is gagging to be the name a Jazz Funk album. 😂
@talkingbasslessons
@talkingbasslessons Год назад
Glad someone noticed it
@alanwadey2848
@alanwadey2848 Год назад
My weird brain initially read this as "Jazz Punk", this should now be a thing
@nickchambers3935
@nickchambers3935 Год назад
I feel uncomfortable seeing “spunk” and “gagging” in the same sentence
@hadmyfill8179
@hadmyfill8179 Год назад
I believe JPJ uses a pick on this one. But fingers da best! And yea, you’re right Mark, hardest LZ bass riff!!
@66mmpow
@66mmpow Год назад
Ramble on id say is pretty hard to
@frasertreglown3273
@frasertreglown3273 11 месяцев назад
The run during the chorus is very difficult but black dog is easily the hardest line as the complexity due to the time signatures
@leifbaker64
@leifbaker64 15 дней назад
That bass line is simple compared to Achilles Last Stand. Even Black Dog is trickier.
@thepaulmacfarlane
@thepaulmacfarlane 6 месяцев назад
The F# repeated riff doesn't have the octave matching Jimmy. Strange but true.
@jasoncherry3404
@jasoncherry3404 Месяц назад
Love this lesson, I’ve been trying to work this song out for over a year and I still stumble a lot. Another song I would love to see a video for is “The boys are back in town” by Thin Lizzy. Phil Lynott inspired me to pick the bass up in the first place and I would like to master that song as a tribute to the late great “Rocker” himself.
@garymulter1571
@garymulter1571 Год назад
Another great one Mark. For another Led Zep song that challenges bass players perhaps sometime you can cover The Lemon Song.
@davidbalan6571
@davidbalan6571 Год назад
I liked rhythms Melody's bass tones freth octave ✋ liked Sam River Group Band of Limp Bizkit and Chad Smith's Group Band of Red Hot Chilli Peppers .
@annachiarasardella3757
@annachiarasardella3757 4 месяца назад
gooooosebumpssss
@floouk
@floouk Год назад
Hello Mark Best channel and thanks for all the lessons and info but. . . It sounds like your slightly out of tune, especially your D string which sounds slightly flat. All the best
@harshtimes23
@harshtimes23 8 месяцев назад
I find The Lemon Song as the harder song to play. This song only has two sections that you can get up to speed. My opinion only
@calken546
@calken546 5 месяцев назад
I would of thought the bass lines in the song "Thank You."
@BBaldwin
@BBaldwin 2 месяца назад
Surely The Lemon Song has to be near the very top.
@oreally8605
@oreally8605 6 месяцев назад
Does John Paul Jones play it with a pick? Or no?
@BaldoFlores_godmetal
@BaldoFlores_godmetal Год назад
I knew i had picked the wrong Zep song to learn first 😂😂😂
@murphymoe9220
@murphymoe9220 9 месяцев назад
🍋🎶🎸
@charlesmartel3995
@charlesmartel3995 8 месяцев назад
I've listened to the isolated bass track using Moises and during the verses with Robert Plant's "Viking" wail, Jone's play the F# then the octave. However, when Plant is sining he plays F# to a minor 3rd which is a. Subtle but powerful difference.
@davidmacleod9313
@davidmacleod9313 11 месяцев назад
Thanks, man!i was always the guitar player and singer doing this song but was always so glad I wasn’t the bass player for this! Lol Anyway, I have this Taylor Mini Bass and thought it would be nice to tackle this. Jesus! I’ve got it slow so… Lol But thanks again!
@svenramnefjell7742
@svenramnefjell7742 Год назад
O.M.G! I love you channel. Your methode of explaining everything is so inspirational. It is exactly peaces like this I need. Relatives easy, but impressive to hear. Since I picked up the bass at a advanced age, my fingers are stiff and need some stretching. The good thing is, I have all the time in the world. Thank you so much!😁
@marcgauvreau2663
@marcgauvreau2663 Год назад
Once again the brilliant Mr. Smith comes to the rescue of all of us who have humbled ourselves; confessed our need for help but then asked for it. Thank you Mark...for your skill; effective teaching style and generosity of time in teaching us 'dullards'
@artrogers3985
@artrogers3985 Год назад
Great stuff Mark. When I saw the title I didn’t guess the Immigrant Song
@JustK009
@JustK009 Год назад
Excellent video..How about out on the tiles
@RicardoIsTheGoatBaby
@RicardoIsTheGoatBaby Год назад
It's not really hard, it's a little complicated on the A, B to C notes
@AtomizedSound
@AtomizedSound Год назад
Yeah the fast scale run during the chorus is the hardest part of this song to learn.
@sornord
@sornord Год назад
I think JPJ uses a pick on this song.
@timmcmaster6435
@timmcmaster6435 Год назад
great help man on an epic n timeless chore of a tune 😅
@kimmorgan379
@kimmorgan379 Год назад
I've always thought this was picked. Is it? I TRY to play it with a pick, but ... yes .... will have a go with fingers. So I can' NOT play it two different ways!
@xpatsteve
@xpatsteve Год назад
There aren't many live performance videos available but I've seen him play this song both ways. I use fingers or a pick depending on the song but for me, this one is definitely fingers.
@kimmorgan379
@kimmorgan379 Год назад
@@xpatsteve Right. Okay. Hmm. Well, I can't play it properly with either pick or fingers so there we go!!!
@megadawg342
@megadawg342 Год назад
you played a minor 7 in that major scale. ???
@talkingbasslessons
@talkingbasslessons Год назад
It’s not a major scale.
@patrickgallagher4212
@patrickgallagher4212 Год назад
yes, a major scale with a minor 7th is called mixolydian
@prashantmalani823
@prashantmalani823 Год назад
HI Mark, Any tips on how you got that great tone?
@talkingbasslessons
@talkingbasslessons Год назад
Used a Darkglass overdrive for this one.
@stuartmoore6310
@stuartmoore6310 Год назад
@@talkingbasslessons and I'm guessing you have Active Electronics as I see little blue lights on the high side of them. Thanks for the lessons!
@maliwilliams7262
@maliwilliams7262 Год назад
"HARDEST"?? LOL!!
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