Is this the 'real' Holy Grail? - BBC REEL 

I think it’s a great piece of history~ always interesting to know something so old has survived until now~ I don’t really think it matters if Jesus drank or not from the cup ~ but how well people preserved the stone until now!

I think organized religion is the biggest problem facing humanity. It's time to realize that there isn't some ghost gonna come down and take responsibility for you. The worlds problems are ours, no dude died for your sins that's your job.

@@brianellison3525 if the God is true nothing else matters. If the God is false nothing else matters. Including responsibilities...

I notice ALOT of "we got the biggest, deepest, oldest, best, FIRST, RAREST" ,. ... in Europe. This falls under that category. I Also notice people believe anything. Just because it was that old, don't make it " the holy grail". Lol. Wow

@@taylorsukoshi6126 the perception of god means nothing. You mean nothing. My wife means everything. I have killed for her before and will fo it again if need be. I have no remorse. No discussion of a god from any level will change that. Have a nice day. Try not to kill anyone.

It explains it in the video how they came to the conclusion .

@@HyruleDude without providing the slightest bit of evidence to support their claims

@@HyruleDude Flimsy at best, it explains that such cup are made for ceremonial purpose based on Jewish law, that would mean there were hundred if not thousand of the same type of cup made in that period. And btw, this church isn't the only one claiming possession of the "holy grail", there are dozen others with their own story backing them. Imo at the end of the day it doesn't really matter, I doubt even if it's really the cup Jesus used, it's just a cup, now Jesus being actual son of God is a debate for another day, but worshiping of an object is against all Abrahamic religions, and if Jesus is watching, he would probably be very disappointed by it and that we went to wars for centuries, killing countless just because of some holy land and a cup.

I dont think there's too many 2000 y.o cups in general, you really have to take a lot of care for an object like that to mantain it over thousands of years... not saying this is it, but if this cup has lived 2000 y.o. through who knows how many genereations and it's still almost in a perfect state, sure there was a good reason to keep it safe.

@@rapsus92 Oh, well, if there really aren't many it must be Jesus's chalise. 🤦‍♂️

In 1 Samuel, chapter 4, the Israelites make the mistake of thinking that The Ark of the Covenant itself would bring them victory in the fight against the Phillistines... they were defeated because they a) thought The Ark itself would save them, despite the fact that b) they had stopped listening to God's guidance and were doing whatever they pleased. Time and time again, the Israelites were warned about idolatry, which will always be relevant as long as we are tempted to make anything more important than God. I can't speak for all Christians, but for myself, trying to follow the will of The Lord, Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit will always be more important than touching whatever objects Jesus may or may not have touched. The importance of "The Grail" is a reminder of how Jesus shed his blood for our sins, so by believing in His sacrifice, we would be redeemed to Him for all eternity. And by our repentance, our relationship with God can be restored, and we are free to receive and grow in daily renewal. Hallelujah!

@@G2097 I was thinking about idolatry too, and how the obsession over this object is similar to idolatry. I think the things you say here are beautiful, and can relate to most of it. Yet I often wonder if people are easily confused and manipulated when rather simple ideas of love and compassion are turned by clergy and other "experts" into very abstract, complex, and even convoluted relationships that require a complex flow chart to even begin to understand. I imagine that Jesus spoke pretty plainly and directly to most of his followers about love, compassion, self-awareness, virtues, etc. and that over the centuries, other people purposely made these ideas much more complex than necessary to that we would think we need them in order to act as middlemen and interpreters. I don't think that Jesus would even have supported the idea of clergy, someone who holds such power to limit and restrict your relationship with God. We can see throughout history how this power has been abused and the evils that have resulted from it.

So weird to hear people who don't believe the Bible tell others what it means...

The swami Vivekananda once visited a Maharajah. The rajah told him he just couldn't bring himself to worship images that were just stone or wood. With the rajah's permission, the swami asked a servant to take down a picture there was on the wall of the rajah. Then he said to the servant: 'Spit on it.' But the servant refused. 'Why? It's just paper, wood and glass.' 'It represents my master!'

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Yeah science is always wrong.

Uuuuh where was the holy grail again ?

Plenty of people can't wait to get their questions in, without even watching the video it seems....

I want a "Head of John the Baptist" for my living room shelf. I've heard there are several out there. Maybe I should look on ebay?

Yes likely, in this case though the relic appears to date from the correct date and location, it's not a medieval hoax in other words.

maybe it was neighbors'

At least we can admit Jesus is a historical figure.

@@taylorsukoshi6126 can we? How? There is virtually no evidence of his existence. There are no eyewitness accounts of his life or works, no contemporary accounts, no writings by him, no artifacts or archaeology associated with him. So the very best we can say is that it is slightly more likely than not that the jesus character was based on anyone real.

@@slickmcCool this is just embarrassingly wrong, even the pagans refer to Jesus Christ

@@taylorsukoshi6126 it doesn't matter what anyone _believes,_ the number of people who believe something, how ardently the believe, nor the length of time that belief has existed have any bearing on the truth at all. What matters is the evidence provided. Name a specifc piece of evidence that contradicts any part of my statement. Should be very easy for you, given wrong you have stated I was. I eagerly await your response.

This is the real Holy Grail : a small humble onyx cup of I B.C Century, covered with gold and jewells by princess Urraca of Leon about the year 1.065. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8DdsN7AEmr4.html It is at the church of San Isidoro in Leon, into a romanesque tower. Close to the place where the princess is buried just below a big Last Supper paintig (about year 1.085)

Yeah the part of the story where Muslims offer it to the king of Spain in exchange for not invading their territory, could have easily been a hoax by the Muslims. I’d assume the Muslims were acutely aware of Jesus, Jews and their traditions and could easily fabricate/repurpose a ceremonial chalice.

This is a dented onyx bowl, dated I b.c. Century. It was covered with gold and jewells by princess Urraca of León. She even wrote her name with gold around it. It happened about year 1.070. The chalice is into an ultra-secure glass urn, with movement sensors. When you see it, you are sure you are seeing the Holy Grail. It´s a very special feeling. No fakes anywhere. You are seeing History with your own eyes. All you see is real and dated. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8DdsN7AEmr4.html

What was it Martin Luther said? Enough pieces of the true cross scattered around Europe to create a battleship (or maybe it was a battle fleet!) Come to Jerusalem, and see the spot where he (likely) died, and where a temple to Afrodite was consecrated.

Interesting. I want to believe I'm beautiful, unfortunately, my mirror, and pretty much every woman I've ever met, makes it impossible.

No, I accept things I don't like all the time, that is what is called accepting reality... YOU may believe what you WANT to believe in denial of reality, but it is not everyone who does that... Just stupid religious people do that

Yes, that works both ways, it's confirmation bias.

The stone agate cup at the top is the Grail, the gold was added later in the reliquary tradition by church craftsmen.....

@@LaFayVerte that makes sense. Now I wonder if the place or “church” that it’s being displayed in is charging people to view it. That’ll be bad ju-ju in my book.

@@ocho27hd Even without the mediaeval additions, the craftsmanship involved in making a cup out of semi-precious agate is considerable. Even if there were no charge to view the chalice in the cathedral (is there??) there must be some motive (and funding) behind the seemingly endless documentaries, tv slots etc. The "jubilee year" in Valencia is surely of financial benefit to Valencia in addition to the regular income from tourism. I can't predict what ju-ju (or karma) they will get, I'm afraid...

@@ianspegler yeah I suppose that makes sense too. They have to have some founding “to keep the lights on”, building maintenance, or other miscellaneous expenses. I just meant as I hope they’re not just filling their pockets with the income they receive from the relic. But, I’m thousands of miles away from there so meh…

@@ocho27hd I went to Valencia not long ago and they charge you to see the cathedral (as every other cathedral I've seen) not to specifically see the relics.I didnt even know there was any chalice there. 😅

that is what I was thinking too.

Thank all the gods that some of the Christians have a sense of style.

This is just the point: the agate bowl of the Chalice of Valencia is dated : I Century B.C. The rest of the pieces , about XIV Century.. The onyx cup of the Chalice of Princess Urraca is dated too : I Century B.C. The golden envolvement is about year 1.070, Princess Urraca even wrote her name with gold on it. They are not fake at all.

@@bwanaminoplis2536 there is nothing real about their bullshit religion... their most important story, birth of Jesus... : Evidence for Emperor Augustus, Cencus'ing the entire Roman Empire - There is none, because it Never happened!!! Ask why all of a sudden census were where they were born, rather than where they payed taxes!?! all the census we have evidence for, are where people were working! Neither were they ever of Non-Roman citizens, as they didn't earn enough to pay taxes... Nor would the animals be in the fields in December, they would be in the stable, which means there would be no room for Joseph and Mary... They didn't even get the right governor, the one they mention wasn't Governor till 10 years later... Couldn't be worse of a lie, and people still believe it!

This parabole was first recorded as said by Sertorius, enemy of Pompey, to his troops in Spain: united we resist, separate we die.

But Jesus, what ever he might have been, he was no simple carpenter. He was, at the very least, a rabbi leading a cult, and if you've met any of these big rebbes with their followers... it would not have been unusual for him to have a cup of pure gold. Stone, silver, and glass would also have been quite possible. Pottery too, if it was pretty.

No he was a stone mason not a carpenter

The chalice was from St Matthew family.

It may be it the last super was held in the house of a rich family, it hints at that in the gospel of Luke 22, 10 He replied, “As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters, 11 and say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 12 He will show you a large room upstairs, all furnished. Make preparations there.”

They specifically say in the video: the "Grail" is just the stone cup at the top. All the fancy gold and jeweled parts you see are a reliquary made to hold the grail. Also IIRC the cup wasn't even owned by Jesus. He and his followers held the last supper at a strangers house, so presumably whoever the guy was loaned them his utensils.

The video explains that the Catholic Church added the gold and jewels

This is the Cup of Saint Peter. The aunthentic Cup of Christ was a simple onyx bowl, but Princess Urraca of Leon covered it with jewells and gold and so the Cup got its iconic appearance .: an amazing cup of gold. The onyx cup is dated about I Century B.C., the embelleshiment is dated about year 1.070. Princess Urraca ordered to paint a big painting of the Last Supper juts above her tumb. There is a man showing the Cup in its old appearance. The Cup is in the museum close to the painting. In Leon, Spain. Sorry my poor english.

"And He took a cup and when He had given thanks He gave it to them saying "Drink this, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. I tell you, I shall not drink again of the fruit of the vine until I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom." The cup was an important part of the passover tradition whether you call it a grail/chalice whatever...

@@JimboJohnsy The point isn't that there is no cup mentioned in the bible, the point is that the Holy Grail is a celtic myth grafted onto Christianity. Again, a grail isn't a cup, it's more of a gravy boat. Read any of the grail myths and you will hardly hear mention of Christ at all. The grail myths are entirely pagan in their substance and values. It is comparable to when a pagan deity would be re-christened as a Christian saint, perhaps merging them with a biblical figure. You could point to the biblical figure and say "see, they are in the bible," which would be like finding a tree in the bible and saying "see, Christmas trees aren't pagan" or finding a hare and saying "see, the Easter bunny isn't pagan." The cup of Passover, or the cup used at the last supper, is not the grail of the grail mythos. The cup used at the last supper was just a cup.

Let me detail the differences between the Judeo-Christian and pagan or Celtic uses of a grail or chalice so that you, and Christians may understand both. Please forgive if I forget the many uses of a cup in pagan myth. The grail legend isn't as old as the ceremony as described in the Gospels or in the Hebrew Bible. The ceremony can be dated by the Tanakh supported by archeological excavations of Hebrew settlements, dating up to 2 millennium B.C.E. In Celtic myth, yes people used wine vessels. Everybody drank wine. Human, and child sacrifice was popular. The sacrifical victim has a last meal in which they drank a fermented beverage, which includes mead and beer, so they would be in a state of partial or full inebriation prior to sacrifice. We have analyzed bog bodies all over Europe, (a/k/a sacrificial victims) and discovered a lot about what took place. Even sacrificial children were discovered at an Altar to the Moon Goddess Diana or Artemis in Greece. The Gods were thirsty to say the least. - Slightly different in Judeo-Christianity. The people of Canaan were pagans originally. It took a long time, because habits die hard, to end sacrifice to the gods in all its various forms. 1st, YHVH stopped Abraham from sacrificing Isaac by grabbing his hand, shouting "No!" then, telling him he would provide the sacrifice. "Look!" Said God, there is an unblemished ram caught in a thicket. This was the prophesy of the sacrifice of the Messiah being an unblemished (pure & sinless) ram to wash the sins away. The ram was pierced by the thicket of thorns as Christ would be crucified and a crown of thornes placed on His head. "This will be your sacrifice until I give you one that will last for all time!" This is a clear prophecy of Christ, one of hundreds in the Old Testament, yet not recognized by all Hebrews at the time. The sacrifice of animals was the last vestige of paganism. God asks for no blood sacrifice. In Isaiah YHVH says "Bring Me no more vain offerings! I do not delight in the blood of animals!" For He is not a pagan god. In the New Testament, to His Father, Christ repeated the passage of Isaiah adding "....I will go down. I will be the last sacrifice for ALL time." Ending the practice of blood sacrifice. The cup commemorates the last sacrifice where wine is tran-subatabtiated into the blood or "LIFE" of GOD. Blood, not even a drop of an animal is to be injested as YHVH said to Noah after the flood in which he came from world of sin, a concession was given. Since Adam and Eve. YHVH or God forbade humans and animals from eating meat, Kosher law was laid down. "You may eat meat as a concession to sin, but you must not drink it's blood. For blood is the LIFE of the animal." The only LIFE we are to drink, is the LIFE of GOD. The Passover ceremony was to commemorate the night when the Angel of death passed over the homes of practicing Hebrews, faithful to YHVH. Blood of an unblemished, young, male lamb was painted over the door to signal to the Angel of death to passover. The blood of the unblemished young male lamb washed sins away for one year until YHVH sent a Messiah, so sins would be cleaned for all time. Christ, being man and God became the "Sacrificial Lamb" or the scapegoat, unblemished who "Took upon Himself the sin of the world" washing sins away for ALL time. Death, or eternal death was conquered. Christ drank of the Passover cup commemorating the Old Covenant between God and man in which the Passover feast was commemorated. The,"Grail" was also believed to be the cup which Mary Magdalene used to capture the blood of Christ as He died on the cross. CELTIC MYTH: The "platter" you speak of is from the legends of the grail written into French authors. These date to a millennium after Christ and three to 4 millennium after the Hebrew Bible or Tanaka. The "Grail" in Arthurian myth or Percival, was also possibly a quest, or rite a candidate or squire, completed before being invested into knighthood. In the case of the Templars, a coronation was a part of the investiture.

you must be related to a ape. Without even knowing why u can talk.

The Holy Grail is described in the Tales of the Grail as a cup covered with gold an jewells , and it´s owned by a unmarried princess that used it for healing the king, wounded in the knee with a spear. The kingdom was in a big danger. And it is located at the North of the Gothic Spain. There is a small onyx cup, date I b.c. Century, covered with gold and jewells by princes Urraca of Leon, about year1.070., her brother, king Alfonso VI of Leon (Anfortas) was wounded in a knee by a muslim in a battle. The Kingdom of Leon was attacked by almoravids , fanatic muslims. Princess Urraca ordered to paint a big romanesque Last Supper just above her grave. There , you can see a man offering to Jesus the small onyx cup. This is the Holy Grail : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8DdsN7AEmr4.html At the North of the Gothic Spain ( and at the city where The Zohar was written)

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I agree that it is unlikely that the cup survived. I agree that it does not matter. Salvation depends on the heavenly Father taking responsibility for the sins/ugliness of the world he created on the cross as Jesus. But the documentary is correct that clay and wood can be considered "unclean" because they can absorb contaminants.

That part

It will only bring them suffering and death. Cause for the desire of wealth, power or godhood. A price must be paid.

They say in the video that the golden portion was added in medieval times and only the simple part at top is ancient

Also the chalice was from the family of St Matthew. A rich family.

The top part is believed to be the authentic bit. A little later in time it would be glass. The stone was still expensive but Jewish law and custom was very strict about passover.

the real Holy Grail is the Cup of Princess Urraca (Cáliz de Doña Urraca) and it´s in Leon (NW Spain) It is a cup formed by an humble onys bowl dated : I Century BC, covered with gold and jeweels by the princess. about year 1.070. It was hidden, but nobody knows why. I guess because it was a present from the muslims. The onyx bolw came from Egypt about year 1.060

Al ser una copa de celebración de la Pascua, el cáliz no puede ser de material poroso, como arcilla o madera. Se usaban metales o piedra (ónyx o ágata). La Copa de Valencia es de ágata y es romana, el ornamento lo pusieron muchos siglos después. En realidad es la Copa de San Pedro. El Santo Grial, o la Copa de Cristo, está en la basílica de San Isidoro de León. Es una copa romana de ónyx embellecida con oro y piedras preciosas por la princesa Urraca de León sobre el año 1.070.

Hollywood history is the true one, the most respected and documented!!!

How much nonsense do you have to hear, my God!!!

Jesus is myth created in 1970s? What in the world?

There are two Cups. The Cup of St Peter (Valencia), and the Cup of Christ (León). The Holy Grail is the Cup of Christ .It was owned by princess Urraca (the Maiden of the Grail) and it is just like the legends told : an onyx bowl covered with gold and jewells.

They think they have the holy grail but I have the chalice, I use it almost all the time while I’m at my computer working, my favorite drink I always add to it is a root beer float, sounds like a weird thing to add to the holy grail itself, sure, but it’s just cause it’s my cup lol, they must’ve just completely forgotten how my cup looks like and found one “diamond encrusted” in some church, in its own glass case, but I see stories after stories after stories… I don’t think I’m god,I cannot turn water into gold nor walk on it, and nor can I turn wine into gold while everyone’s very much so aware that I almost never drink any alcohol, so my blood isn’t 24/7 wine consumed like by its own taste, those who can afford to drink wine for their entire lives likely own the earth or their credit card has an endless amount on it. I cannot perform miracles, people might call others with long hair as guys Jesus just for having that alongside a long beard and mustache, but the reason he had that on his face back then was more obvious then ever as to why, shaving was not made in the first century lol They think Jesus can levitate off of the ground or walk on water, but who sees that actually happen without realizing, if someone’s doing it somewhere today…. They likely went outside early in the morning to a big fountain to hide glass in which they’ll then take home after pretending for enough people that it’s real. Look, all I’m saying if not saying I’m Jesus, is just…. *smh* I have the “holy grail” as it’s apparently called, the holy chalice etc etc… but I swear I found this in Egypt, while I although don’t speak Egyptian, it doesn’t matter, you don’t have to tour the world while knowing all the worlds languages each place speaks to have fun going everywhere, if they wouldn’t understand cause of lacking having any experience speaking their language, that’s why you can bring friends or a tourist guide with you, what did I do? Well, neither of those things, I only took a road trip for a vacation over to Egypt, I’m still young and just a very excited to travel anywhere around the world person, did I buy it? Actually, I found it buried a ways down in some sand, I have to actually extract it by hand cause no-one was around, so whenever o start each morning to resume going back to working at home as I always did despite Covid existing, why do I work from home? I’m a online artist.

the lower part was done before the knights templar were even founded...

Those are medieval pictures and can't be relied on. They show have a rather medieval look and feel ti them. You'd be better off looking at some of the older mosaics.

Indiana Jones already said it

@@Juan-xg4kr yep not gonna lie I have that quote from there hahaha But it makes sense

Yes. you´re right. And that´s why the Chalice of Princess Urraca is a better candidate : In this Cup, the gold envelopes the bowl in a way that the priest never touches the old onyx cup with his lips, because the gold cover. The old agate of the Chalice of Valencia is "naked". If you think as a priest of Century XII or XIII... you probably don´t dare to put your lips where Jesus did. Sorry my poor english, please. :D.