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Expensive guitar cables; fad or fabulous?
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Key points:
0:00 Intro
0:10 JAM! (Live at the Royal Albert Hall)
1:17 Buying new cables
3:07 Avoiding the subject...
3:45 Choosing a cable
4:20 The contenders
5:42 COMPARISON
9:42 The results/concluding thoughts
13:13 JAM! (I'm Ready - Live in Cork)
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@rodgerrodger1839
@rodgerrodger1839 Год назад
Chris Buck proves that he can play through tin cans and a string and put out a better sound than most musicians playing today.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад
No doubt.
@andersf324
@andersf324 Год назад
Yep
@rodgerrodger1839
@rodgerrodger1839 Год назад
@fredfreddy2338 Sorry you missed it. It was a special Chris did on how to build amps for cheap and still tour. On a "Shoe string budget."
@gui-texzan7477
@gui-texzan7477 Год назад
Chris is as talented and tasteful as any player in music. I'd love to see John Mayer pick him up as his number three and introduce him to the masses. As for playing inexpensive equipment and sounding like a million bucks, nobody beats Jack Pearson, who has used Squier Bullet Strats for years.
@rodgerrodger1839
@rodgerrodger1839 Год назад
@gui-texzan7477 I couldn't agree more. I'm an old fart now and had the pleasure of seeing some of the greatest players in their prime with their original bands play live. Chris really captures the essence of music. He's just incredibly talented and humble about. A magical combination. I also noticed that every person on this site is very nice and extremely polite. Another example of who follows him and his music. I wish everyone a happy musical journey in life.
@fladification
@fladification Год назад
There a few things you can do to make your cable last forever! 1. Never stand or step on your cable, and don't let other people do it. 2. run the cable threw your strap and 3. always coil it up neatly when not in use 4. never let them get knotted or tangled.. I've been playing in an oldies cover band since '02 we are using the very same speaker cables for the P.A. that came free with a PA head the guitarist bought in 1986. We use 35+ year old speaker cables every time we gig with no problems, show your cables respect and they will last forever! When i joined this band I went out and bought me a whole new set up including cables. I'm still using all those 21 year old cables to this day, in the same amount of time I have blown through 5 amps and 3 speaker cabs. I haven't had a problem with cables since I learned how to take care of them. Do the things I said above and your cables, even you cheap crap cables, will last forever.
@MyRackley
@MyRackley Год назад
I used to work in a recording studio, and learned the correct way to coil cables on my very first day. I think there are still people out there wrapping cables around their elbows 🚫😩. Lol.
@Gregorypeckory
@Gregorypeckory Год назад
Your advice is good, but let's face it; your story is as much about the good fortune of not being the person who bought the bad ones out of the batch. Manufacturing isn't perfect, so my advice to anyone who reads the above advice scratching their heads trying in vain to recall what they did wrong to have had multiple cables fail on them, because they haven't been so lucky, is just bite the bullet reach into your wallet, try again, and shrug it off, because bad manufacturing can happen to anyone at any time, and just because someone says it wouldn't have happened unless you abused the cable, doesn't mean you have to join them in believing that manufacturers are flawless and any problems with their products are strictly the fault of the consumer; a huge load of BS.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions Год назад
Thru.
@MultiGoulash
@MultiGoulash 4 месяца назад
We always used 20ft cables (found longer ones just didn't sound right), for those of us who have toured in larger venues where radio gear wouldn't work for various reasons. I agree with coiling them up properly, but truth is most cables will survive even if trodden on regulalry as ours were. We always used more expensive brands which helped and as far as i know, these cables are still working years later.
@ronrumsey3205
@ronrumsey3205 Год назад
Here's an option. You could order the bulk cable (Mogami 2524) and connectors (Neutriks) and solder them up yourself for about 1/2 the cost of the pre-made, store bought cables.
@andrewarcher2773
@andrewarcher2773 Год назад
And the length you want
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 Год назад
Very true, but try this as well. Use coax (cable tv) line from the amp to the pedalboard. Then make all your patches from coax and doctor a guitar cable end to accept coax. You'll have the best cable shielding and drop resistance measurably. Yeah, you'll look silly to some, for a second. That's until they hear it. If you use any kind of wireless it's a godsend for keeping out stray signal.
@larsfrederiksen3005
@larsfrederiksen3005 Год назад
@@jimshorts6751 Well. Isn't it true that the passive guitar is pretty high impedance on its own, so the resistance of the (first) cable is of less importance. The signal loss (high frequency loss) is mainly due to the capacitance of the cables. In this regard I agree with your observation on coaxial cables. This is also what some of the (grossly overpriced) patch cables on offer use..
@U-mann
@U-mann Год назад
There's really no better option than this. 👍
@SandauxBeats
@SandauxBeats Год назад
Yes. I do this too.
@IGoSantaMK8
@IGoSantaMK8 Год назад
I ended up investing in a Mogami Cable after my old one failed on-stage during a set. The difference in tone is very, very small (so small that it is probably just placebo causing me to believe that is sounds better). What you are paying for with more expensive cables is the durability, and this investment I made was solely for peace of mind. Thankfully, the Mogami cable has proven to be incredibly stable and I am glad I bought it. However, I am sure there are many cables that are more affordable and can do the job just as well, as long as you take care of it, of course> Great video and playing as always, Chris!
@imacashew.
@imacashew. Год назад
Not to mention lifetime warranty. When it doesn’t work you get a new one, no questions.
@benink5690
@benink5690 Год назад
Gold is just better conductor. Everyone knows this.
@OG_Mereles
@OG_Mereles Год назад
Would you rather go to a venue with one Mogami cable or two fender ones?
@felipew101
@felipew101 Год назад
I think I've heard warren from ProduceLikeAPro answer a similar question on expensive studio cables. The matter of sound is negligible, but the durability you afford for the cables you will be constantly plugging and unplugging is where the actual value is. But ofc there's a point of diminishing returns even with durability of construction.
@cliveward7346
@cliveward7346 Год назад
​@@benink5690 silver has higher conductivity. Then again, we could super-cool cables in liquid nitrogen......
@shadwellsong
@shadwellsong Год назад
congrats on the gig - I appreciate your take on the cable question , level headed and calm. Always a good place to be.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад
I really enjoy listening to your music Chris. It is inspiring, soulful, and joyful.
@ryantaylor3416
@ryantaylor3416 Год назад
Chris- I know I’m super late to the party, but I just finished first listen through Cardinal Black record…all I can say is WOW! Your tone and tasty phrasing is PHENOMENAL! Love the ear candy as well as the monster playing and vocals. Keep it up!!
@leeasbury7273
@leeasbury7273 Год назад
I have like 100 foot of Mogami cable and silent Neutrik ends that I solder myself to whatever length I need. Been doing it 17 years and never had one fail. Still using the first 18 foot cable I made
@MikeLike8
@MikeLike8 Год назад
I can feel Chris Buck when he plays guitar, his play has so much soul, he plays with great levels of feel. Finding great young players like Chris is fun and really satisfying when watching and listening to those who dedicate themselves to their craft like Chris does.
@barrykelleher5009
@barrykelleher5009 Год назад
Thanks for coming to Cork Chris. Had a blast at the gig.
@acernumberone
@acernumberone Год назад
Hey Chris thanks for the demo,. I've seen plenty of your videos showing the difference between a good strat and a really good one and this cable demo shows the same distinction between good and really good. Thanks Allan
@MurrayWilliams
@MurrayWilliams Год назад
It’s great that the Fender cable is so close to the Mogami. There may be a SLIGHT bit more air in the Mogami, but it doesn’t sound anywhere close to £53 better.
@heikopfister9739
@heikopfister9739 Год назад
Well, but we have to keep in mind that the smaller difference at the comparably short length adds up at each inch. I found peace using Sommer Cable, that are pretty high quality but still reasonably priced in the middle
@elibeachill1150
@elibeachill1150 Год назад
Saw u in Cork and noticed ur cables and was meant to ask you when I got up meet you, cos I didn't recognise them. Great video and was great to see you play PS. That's my video at the end. So very proud of myself for that 😂
@b10t3rr0r
@b10t3rr0r Год назад
I recall reading somewhere that the only thing that really matters in a cable is capacitence, otherwise it's just all about quality of the plugs and how the cable is done overall. I'm a long time DiMarzio cable user, I like their coloured tweed cables between guitar & pedals and pedals & amp. And they dare to tell capacitence & resistance on their websites.
@musikus7092
@musikus7092 Год назад
Absolutely. The rest is esoteric.
@cgavin1
@cgavin1 Год назад
@@musikus7092 Especially if like Chris your entire sound is comprised of pedals and associated buffers.
@OG_Mereles
@OG_Mereles Год назад
And I recall watching debates about whether or not you can hear the difference between expensive vs inexpensive OPTICAL audio cables.
@GCKelloch
@GCKelloch Год назад
DC cable resistance is insignificant compared to Hi-Z pickup coil resistance.
@musikus7092
@musikus7092 Год назад
@@GCKelloch And then there are people who replace thin to thick wires in their wiring harness or buy these overpriced shit😅
@robdavis8307
@robdavis8307 Год назад
The difference became more apparent the higher the gain got. I absolutely treasure my only Mogami cable. Great quality and the silent jack is perfect. The sound difference was obvious. Thank you for the comparison.
@heikopfister9739
@heikopfister9739 Год назад
In parts it's explained by the length of cable between the clean take and the gainier ones is doubled - so the high end roll-off is considerably more compared to the clean take
@richardlynch5632
@richardlynch5632 Год назад
George L's retains the highs/clarity that most cables seem to lose. They are so easy to service yourself as well. 20+ years with same cable with only 2 trim jobs😉👍
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638
@riffcodgerpetermcaleer8638 Год назад
A triumph Buckmaster, a triumph. Even my old ears noticed a significant improvement in overall sound quality with the more expensive brand. I still like my neutrik cable though.😂
@rickygallagher1677
@rickygallagher1677 Год назад
Great gig in Dublin the other week. Thanks!
@samuelhatman8995
@samuelhatman8995 Год назад
My imagination? An old man with Riveter's Career hearing loss? Childhood ear infections hearing loss as well. No Tinnitus. And yes, with no headphones, I think I do hear more in the Mogami fullness. Not so crispy, yet with no loss compared to the Fender. I do use very good cables my self and Fenders are only for backup in my stage kit bag. My spendy cables have never failed. I watched and listened a second time. Every observation in your summation mirrors my own experience. In the end I pay for comfort and assurance, freedom from worry in the quality of my creative pursuits. Thanks!! I need the best and you are an essential part of that.
@leejohnson6516
@leejohnson6516 Год назад
Great episode Chris. Can you do a comparison between wireless systems and against cables? There should be definite differences! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 👍
@james-he7xv
@james-he7xv Год назад
Bro someone needs to give you a cable endorsement, your a well enough known artist .
@simonm3889
@simonm3889 Год назад
Outstanding playing and great band
@davidkeane2399
@davidkeane2399 Год назад
Hi Chris - I started buying lengths of cable off a roll a couple of years ago out of necessity, but also interest in the question. I went with Sommer cable and Amphenol jacks. Broke out the soldering iron and made 4 cables (2x6m and 2x4m) for 56 quid. They've done over 30 sweaty, beer drenched gigs since and still sound better than anything I've ever had. Sturdy as, comparatviely cheap, and the difference in sound is clearly audible. No breaks, never let me down, better signal than I've ever had. The secret appears to be the quality of the inner core and the shielding. I wouldn't buy Mogami personally, but totally attest to the idea that cables makes a huge difference, and that we (guitar players in general) don't pay nearly enough attention to them.
@lachlanmacquarrie3129
@lachlanmacquarrie3129 Год назад
Interesting comparison - actually in all the examples I preferred the sound of the Fender cable.
@rectangulardots
@rectangulardots Год назад
I just wanted to write pretty much the same thing. There where maybe one or two comparisons where I have a hard time deciding. Overall though, I prefer the Fender, especially because of it‘s softer attack!
@TheImaboku
@TheImaboku Год назад
@@rectangulardots Fender was more present for sure, really interesting. Mogami almost sounded woofy comparably.
@NonalignedVideos
@NonalignedVideos Год назад
The Fender cables sounded VERY SLIGHTLY more upper mid-range-y to my ears and I liked it better in almost every example. It feels like a musical choice rather than a "quality" choice to me. Years ago I switched to Mogami for bass, but I use other cabling for my guitar rig. I keep a 30-foot Mogami in my bag for times when I find an extra-long distance between my pedalboard and the amp.
@kmajor44
@kmajor44 Год назад
Great vid Chris. Love your playing!! And, really appreciate you surrounding the strat on the couch with the throw pillows. 🤗 Ps. congrats on the Frampton call up! Very 😎! 0% surprised as I predict some notable acts will be opening for you someday.
@j.t.2722
@j.t.2722 Год назад
I have always used the higher end cable. I use Monster and Mogami primarily. You are 100% correct my friend, there is a noticeable difference. I love your style. Keep it real. Peace!
@nicoengerer5959
@nicoengerer5959 Год назад
You're so fuckin honest, a big hug from Nürnberg, Bavaria! Btw, you are the best 🎸🎸🎸🎸
@raykeefe9253
@raykeefe9253 Год назад
As a music electronics designer, a factor often forgotten is that with the volume control all the way up and the tone control all the way up you have the external cable capacitance directly in parallel with the pickup coil inductance which creates a resonant frequency between the 2. Higher impedance pots increase the resonance. The rolling the tone all the way down add that capacitance plus series resistance in parallel with the resonant circuit. So the actual result you get depends on all of the above: pickup inductance, cable capacitance, pot resistance and tone control capacitance. So pretty complex interactions and the same cable can behave differently with different guitars because of that. Having talked about the technical side, I full agree with Roger that Chris Buck sounds great through anything. Really enjoyed this one.
@jefe_golf
@jefe_golf Год назад
I’ll say this, I was listening to the video while doing dishes, so not not paying much attention to the video. Each time I heard a sound that I said, “Oh yeah, that’s it”, it was the Mogami.
@JohnDoe-tx6uy
@JohnDoe-tx6uy Год назад
I/we have tried so many cables. From trash to 2k a meter. In a solo recording you might get the 1% but no chance you hear a difference in a band. Good for you though, Mogami is Badass. You deserve it!
@nickguitarmonkeyphillips1817
I've been a whirlwind user for most of my 42 playing years, I've had others including mogami but keep coming back to whirlwind, hey we're all different 😊
@DavideGranato
@DavideGranato Год назад
Great subject mate , loved it. Also because professionally I've always been taught Mogami is the goat. Well not just for the sound , that something plus is those cables from the less expensive to the most are virtually armored from signal disturbs and external noise and boast a great deal of a rapport length/inductance. as you Chris said price is high but actually if you can buy - say a relatively inexpensive 2319 - a meter and two reliable jacks of your choice , solder them DIY you'll be surprised how much you can save. Hope I could help not breaking the bank!
@Zavijava1
@Zavijava1 Год назад
Thanx Chris very timely information as I was just wanting a similar upgrade, and always a mystery as to where to start...
@joybuzzer
@joybuzzer Год назад
The best part about Mogami cables is the shielding which is second-to-none. They are extremely quiet, low-noise cables. There are a lot of cables on the market with much lower capacitance than what those Mogamis.
@dougreid1951
@dougreid1951 Год назад
The effect of the capacitance in the cable depends (critically) on the source impedance - the guitar is a high impedance source - but the pedal board tends to be buffered - so if you can only afford one seventy quid cable - use it from the guitar to the board. P.S. the Neutrik locking jack sockets are brilliant.
@buzzbabyjesus
@buzzbabyjesus Год назад
Yep. Mogami. Thanks!
@giornox114
@giornox114 Год назад
As someone who experienced some absurdly expensive cables(analyzer, vovox, vemuram), it does make a difference with your average cables, as long as you plug straight into your amp or have very few pedals, once you stack your pedals, the impedance and buffers will reduce the difference. Plus, high end cables are usually ones that are HiFi, which is not always a good thing for guitar tone, and you wouldn’t hear it in the mix anyway. A decent cable built with quality parts is the way to go for most of players. Btw, the speaker cable is way more worthy to invest in.
@DDE_ADDICT
@DDE_ADDICT Год назад
Hi Chris, this is Buddy Mack from Canada. I intentionally stopped at 9:43 before hearing your thoughts. In my 300.00 headphones the Mogami have a Hi fidelity to them, I can easily distinguish the two of them, the Mogami’s are top tier. I use the Fender for two reasons. One readily available, and lifetime warranty over the counter exchange. I have an interesting under known SRV fact. Today, we always talk about impedance robbing tone and the length of the cable. If you look at good photos of SRV from early 1989-death, his tech got him using 12-gauge mono speaker cables. Being a huge SRV buff back in the day, those cables are heavy, but the best tone I ever had. Have a great weekend, brother.
@shygrammer
@shygrammer Год назад
Your tone is addictive
@double-a4834
@double-a4834 Год назад
At home, I was surprised how much of a difference a cable (or no cable) makes. I have always used 3-5m Yorkville patch cords and made the switch to an inexpensive wireless set up in my living room. A/B testing showed the budget wireless rig to be clearer, brighter, and louder than my quality cords; enjoying the freedom of movement too.
@donaldnelson8764
@donaldnelson8764 Год назад
I switched to Mogami cables for guitar and microphone years ago, and I think I felt a difference as much as I heard a difference. If playing guitar for 63 years has taught me anything, it's trust your ears and the feel that inspires you.
@onlyrick
@onlyrick Год назад
Well, I've only been playing for 58 years and I disagree about the high-dollar cables but totally agree about the the feel and trusting your ears. Let's check back in another 20 years or so and see how we feel. Keep on playing, man! Edit: Isn't this Chris kid something!
@davidwoods358
@davidwoods358 Год назад
Sitting at a desk in front of monitors a laptop, mixer and a Headrush, I've never needed a long cable (just a good cable.) Been using the same 6 ft. George L for as long as I can remember.
@sgt.grinch3299
@sgt.grinch3299 Год назад
Great to see you again. Interesting topic, I would say they are more durable. I love the tone of your Yamaha.
@pierheadjump
@pierheadjump Год назад
⚓️ Thanks Chris 🎸 no matter how these comparisons are done < A > B < whatever the gear : the limitations of the system 🤠 Internet Satellite Bluetooth Wi-Fi string of devices too many variables to get anything like a consistent result from receiver to receiver 😎
@billkeaveney1526
@billkeaveney1526 Год назад
Thanks Chris all we are missing is a clip of you jamming with Stevie Ray ❤
@EL34Quartett
@EL34Quartett Год назад
When I a/b tested monster cables with my former cables, I was blown away and it became clear I was on to something and did some more research. I ended up using SummerCable and soldering on Neutrik Plugs myself. You can have great sound without breaking the bank.
@k8923
@k8923 Год назад
Mogami takes it with the clean sounds (significantly better frequency response across the board). Even with the higher gain, the mogami cable seemed to capture individual string tone better than the Fender. In all cases, the Fender cable seemed somehow more dull, and almost compressed compared to the mogami.
@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar
@WaylonMcPhersonGuitar Год назад
For me, cables are all about Durability + Noise Rejection. I make loads of cables every week, I have found Amphenol Pro-Series ends + Van-Damme cable (Abby Road etc...) = very good. Many bands I work for have done some large tours (national + international) and they have proven to be very resilient cables
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 Год назад
Ever try coax ?
@bulobeloo
@bulobeloo Год назад
A guitar and cable has the ingredients of a tone control ie. the pickup coil (inductance) the pots and cable resistance and capacitance. Changing guitar or pickups may alter the outcome. I use a good cable with solid connectors and a buffer pedal with 1st loop to pedals to front of amp and 2nd loop going to time based pedals and it works for me. The buffer I use requires 12 volt but delivers good head room. It is a never ending discussion leading to true bypass pedals etc. go by your ears.
@CJLee-jd2lh
@CJLee-jd2lh Год назад
by the time Chris' guitar is recorded, compressed by youtube, and get sent to my wireless bose headphone, I really can't tell much difference. Now I can sleep in peace knowing my cheapo cable is not the problem with my tones haha
@raulromo7930
@raulromo7930 Год назад
i assembled my own mogami cables after having the fender ones and i really love mogami also have more high end in your clip
@grinkashman7884
@grinkashman7884 Год назад
great shirt!
@JimmyDel
@JimmyDel Год назад
They both sound good. Maybe the Mogami are a little smoother but both are decent to my ears. Great gig in Cork too 🤘
@Hbomb731
@Hbomb731 Год назад
When doing these kinds of test you should consider using a looper. That what the inflection in which you play is the exact every time you repeat the the lick or phrase. Just a suggestion. I’m a huge fan of yours and your channel. Simply amazing! You that is.
@Guitar5986
@Guitar5986 Год назад
There are a lot of good cables out there. I used to use Mogami but found that I prefer George L cables. However, I don't like solderless connections so I solder all of mine to high quality plugs. Cables do indeed sound different but it's all subtle nuance which overall matters very little.
@kevcorbett1
@kevcorbett1 Год назад
I was at the gig in Dublin? Poor old lead singer was under pressure. Chh the Chris sounding amazing as usual, we will leave you off for the slpunk comment! Shout out to some neck guitars in Dublin, Eoin will always sort to out.
@Robowx
@Robowx Год назад
Oh yeah Chris! The Mogami was definitely better brighter and fuller sounding.
@pablo.g
@pablo.g Год назад
I was taught that, whenever long stretches of cable are needed, the best option is to have the shortest 1/4" jack cable possible going into a direct box, and then use XLR cable, as those are balanced and don't pick up as much noise. I don't know if this applies here, or if it would be cheaper, but I didn't see anyone else mention this
@aquilarossa5191
@aquilarossa5191 Год назад
Make sure the cable jacks and inputs are clean. They can quickly get grimy and or oxidized and cause trouble, no matter the brand. A can of contact cleaner is always a good thing to have around. P.S. The most important cable is the speaker one. If it fails, it can kill your amp, which is why it's so important. Buy a good one and look after it.
@G5Hohn
@G5Hohn Год назад
I buy bulk Mogami cable and make my own. I can tell you not only that cables DEFINITELY sound different from brand to brand (test a Lyric HG compared to a cheap cable, almost anyone can hear it), but the last dozen or so I made you can hear a difference between the darkest and the brightest samples in the lot. This despite multimeter testing showing perfect solder joints and no measurable difference in capacitance. But the sound difference in the high end was absolutely unmistakable. At least with my Tele and my amp (a bright Dr Z take on a pre-top boost AC30). Now, in a mix in a big room, i doubt it would matter. But at home in a quiet test environment, you can actually sort individual cables from brightest to darkest-- EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE MADE FROM THE SAME ROLL OF MOGAMI CABLE. And to boot, they are going into an amp with an EF86 pentode front end with higher input impedance, which should make the tone less sensitive to minor changes in cable capacitance. I think perhaps it was actually the Neutrik plugs I used. I switched to Amphenol plugs and the cables (again from the same bulk roll of Mogami gold) sound much more consistent, even though you can still hear a subtle difference between the brightest and darkest in a batch. I'd never believe it if I hadn't experienced it myself so convincingly.
@mikeatl4953
@mikeatl4953 Год назад
The more expensive cables sounded better from here. Appreciate you commenting on the feel. As we know that can really change the playing, sound and the player and listener experience. Thanks.
@geraldhills41
@geraldhills41 Год назад
I remember in the seventies buying a cable that was really fat ,when it failed I went to repair it and found very little copper and lots of plastic !
@pooritech
@pooritech Год назад
On my TV I can hear a clear difference. The fender sounds more muffled. The Mogami gives more clarity. If I recorded, I would go mogami.
@brysonlee3631
@brysonlee3631 Год назад
Once I went Mogami + Neutrik, never looked back. Mostly the connectors just feel more substantial and higher quality. Be careful with those Silent connectors though. The silencing mechanism may have a short life. I’ve heard stories of them crapping out after a year or so. Also Amazon has them at affordable prices under "Worlds Best Cables".
@thesjkexperience
@thesjkexperience Год назад
Quite a bit of difference! I make my own and wanted to try Evidence Audio Lyric HG and made myself 2. About a year later I left my cables at home and had to borrow two. It felt like my guitar would only go to 8! Love the solid cables.
@laska747
@laska747 Год назад
I always use UK made Award Session ClearTone instrument, speaker and patch cables. Lifetime guarantee, silent and colour coded jack options, any length you want, reasonably priced. What more could you want 😊
@matthewkennedy7283
@matthewkennedy7283 Год назад
Before I even watch the video, it’s all in the hands guys. Little things like fancy cables are for your enjoyment, they may add a little extra push of audio quality but 90% Is in your hands
@StephenGallacher
@StephenGallacher Год назад
My advice would always be buy the best you can afford, and look after them. Somewhere in the mid 2000s I decided it was time for new cables - was running some pedal into the amp and a few in the fx loop so needed 4 twenty foot cables; the best Guitarguitar had at the time were Shadowsky, so I bought 4 (nice bloke in the shop chucked in a 5th for me 'cos he was nice) at around £26 a pop, and I still have them. I did upgrade the jack plugs to neutric a few years later, but that was probably unnecessary, and I still have them - one was chopped into two 10ft cables for gigs where space was an issue. While it seemed a bit of a stretch at the time, I'm delighted by the sheer value for money almost 20 years later.
@MrMikepresley
@MrMikepresley Год назад
I remember thinking my tone control pot on my guitar was not working right (no sweep), I tried another cable and my tone control knob was working great and sounded great (lots of sweep in tone); after years of playing I now see how valuable a good cable is, which makes sense, it is a vital link between you guitar and your amp (and something hardly anyone thinks about).
@picksalot1
@picksalot1 Год назад
I've got a handful of different brand cables, and each sounds different - brighter, warmer, thinner, less compressed, etc. But ultimately, durability and reliability won. I've used a DiMarzio EP1710SSGM for ages, and run over it probably a couple hundred times with my Computer Chair. Always works and sounds good.
@OzziePete1
@OzziePete1 Год назад
As others have said: Capacitance. The more cable you have the greater the capacitance & the greater roll off of signal, especially in the high end. Look at your pedal board too, see if you have buffered pedals or not. If there is no buffer in the pedalboard signal chain, then the amount of cable within the pedalboard will also add the cable length capacitance from the guitar. THEN add the cable length back to amp. If you are a player who insists upon True Bypass pedals only within your pedalboard, that has to be considered. You have to consider IF you need to buffer your signal somewhere and that's a whole different rabbit hole to fall into. You very quickly start getting into basic electrical physics..... Capacitance, Resistance, Ohms, Input & Output ohms of pedals... the list is endless. You could do your head in if you didn't just yell STOP at some point. Mogami cables are good, well made. If you appreciate what they provide in audio then they are for you. But a well made cable with the similar specs to a Mogami cable will get very very close to them. And that name on a cable ('Mogami') makes them attractive to audio thieves, something to consider when on the road, setting up and pulling down stages each night. Personally, I'd try to travel with different lengths of input & output cable lengths and use the shortest set per show... The longer sets I would just buy Mogami, but the shorter sets I'd use similar gauge wire & plug sets to the Mogamis and either build them myself or have someone solder them for me.
@TJK_Audio
@TJK_Audio Год назад
One great option is buying some bulk Mogami cable and Neutrik connectors. If you can (and are willing to) solder, you can have amazing, reliable cables for a fraction of the cost.
@djmojolosangeles8190
@djmojolosangeles8190 Год назад
Very subtle but I can definitely hear the difference, I think the Mogami cables help the guitar sound more clear and free, the Fender sounds a bit compressed. Again, very subtle but noticeable to me. Is it worth the price difference, for me yes! I have Mogami Silver cables for my guitars, yes they are pricey but well worth it if you are an audiophile like me :) Thanks Chris, for your work and this review! God Bless!
@lawinsmalltimore
@lawinsmalltimore Год назад
Began replacing my cheap-ish cabling with Caulfield Cables (he's not making them of course, but sourcing good stuff and assembling them with the connectors and colors of your choice) and haven't regretted it one bit. Whenever I have a little extra scratch I replace one. Even the speaker cable for my head/cab. It does sound better, and will clearly last longer.
@deadcatforcutie9349
@deadcatforcutie9349 Год назад
I found a recommendation for Mogami with the exact part number (2524) in a Rivera amp manual from 1982. Since part number is still valid, the product must have some non-hype-reason to still exist. Another main addition IMO is that the Mogami is very indifferent to moving them around or stepping on them. Use them for 20+ years. they are very durable. If you buy them without the Neutriks and do the soldering yourself, the price diff is not so high anymore.
@B-leafer
@B-leafer Год назад
Huge difference! Mogami sounds MUCH crisper, while the Fender sounds muted, like you rolled off the treble. Guitar sounds great btw!
@paulweber9945
@paulweber9945 Год назад
Excellent post, thank you! My 2 cents' worth: the critical areas are solder joints and the quality of the plug ass'y. HEre it is worth pointing out that missing strain relief where the cable exits the plug barrel can be a source of a later breakdown. Good quality oxygen-free cable sheaths also greatly improves cable durability, to the point that it won't be uncommon to have 20+y.o. cables still functioning wonderfully. Tonewise? On a loud stage will the weekend guittslinger really be able to tell the difference? And once the signal has been captured by the badly placed and un-damped SM57 (hello, stage resonance and vibrations!) and mangled by the FOH guy squishing the signal through banks of Behringer prosumer compressors, gates and EQs, good luck with the cable tone cork-sniffing exercise!
@wolfgangkocks6494
@wolfgangkocks6494 Год назад
Interesting item! Confronted by big stages using a pedalboard and effect loop I agree there are easily 20 m or more length of cables. Mogami sounds definitely brighter with more clarity and top end. Saving money I recommend to solder high end cables by your own. Sommer Cable The Spirit XXL in combination with self tightening Neutrik NP 2 X-B and NP 2 RX-B jacks means highest quality for a reasonable price.
@aquilarossa5191
@aquilarossa5191 Год назад
Yep. My custom built cables are still flawless after 18 years. Switchcraft jacks and Canare cable. Custom-made heavy-duty speaker cables too. I can trust my amps to them (I wonder how many folks blew their amps up using crappy speaker cables and cooking the output transformer).
@stevesteve1965
@stevesteve1965 Год назад
I've used cable by Award Session which you can buy at any custom length with Neutrik noiseless jacks . A UK company .
@teleplus97
@teleplus97 Год назад
I preferred the sound of the Fender cable. Arguably, it was at points a bit tinny, but that could have been corrected by rolling off the treble. You can't fix what you lose with the cable, but you can get rid of what the cable did't lose if you want. I would have liked to see the capacitance measurement. Go for short cables if you are on a budget. The cable matters only up to the first buffer pedal, like many rightly pointed out before me.
@talkychris
@talkychris Год назад
I often don't notice much difference in a lot of comparison videos. However there was a clear difference between these cables and the Mogami had more clarity, top end sounded brighter with better note definition. The first Fender Deluxe cable I ever bought will probably be the last Fender cable I buy. The exterior braiding started coming apart very quickly. At the moment I'm using WBC Worlds Best Cables Van Damme Pro Grade Classic XKE Instrument Cable with Eminence connectors. They are relatively low capacitance, robust and noise free! Not cheap, but a bit less expensive than Mogami.
@pdx_angler9760
@pdx_angler9760 Год назад
If you measure shunt capacitance and series resistance of each cable that would explain any sonic difference and be nicely quantifiable. Durability is a different issue. You sound great and I love the playing. Keep it up!
@pauligood
@pauligood Год назад
I’ve been using handmade Italian Reference Cables for years and have never had a problem with cabling since, and they also have a lifetime(!) guarantee;)
@rschelyoung8705
@rschelyoung8705 Год назад
Such a great song. Like an 80s foreigner anthem NOW!
@dmitresser
@dmitresser Год назад
Cable is the guitar circuit put outside, so it does matter. imho VanDamm cables (the one Jeff Beck was always using) is worth trying, just perfect
@jerryjones8513
@jerryjones8513 Год назад
for years now I have used Cleartone cables by Award Session. They are made in the UK with Neutrik connectors and Van Damm cable, never had one fail yet. They are only about 10% dearer than Planet waves and such like and they will make them any length you like. I do have a couple of Planet Waves 20 ft cables and I have had them about 10 years with moderate use. You aren`t paying for the tone, it`s durability and reliability you are paying for.
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Год назад
For myself, I tend to shell out on cables more than I should simply because I’m paranoid about them crapping out on me live (only happened once, and i CANNOT face it happing again!!)
@claudevieaul1465
@claudevieaul1465 Год назад
That's indeed the exact right reason to get better cables. The sonic difference is totally moot, imho.
@WutipongWongsakuldej
@WutipongWongsakuldej Год назад
I have an expensive cable die on me once. That's why I usually go with known good cables. I ended up making most of those though.
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Год назад
@@WutipongWongsakuldej 😬🤞
@OG_Mereles
@OG_Mereles Год назад
The difference in the electrical grid from two different venues in two different cities will likely be more noticeable than the difference from the rather small signal going a few feets inside two different (purpose appropriate) cables. Architecture, geographic location, time of day, amount of people present, behavior from the crowd, the mood of your dummer, electrical and electronic devices connected to the grid, amount of alcohol in your bloodstream (not joking) and then the multiple signal processing devices in your pedalboard will never EVER be the same two times! And they all will have greater effect on the sound. Play any gig like it's a one of a kind event because it is! And have fun!
@BeesWaxMinder
@BeesWaxMinder Год назад
@@OG_Mereles I quite agree, but it’s all meaningless IF the signal cuts out because of aN inferior cable (see? I have PTSD!!)
@rocknrollguitar
@rocknrollguitar Год назад
I always play the Fender cables, usually with the vintage cloth cover.. but thats just for the looks
@claudevieaul1465
@claudevieaul1465 Год назад
I've been making my own cables for years, using good plugs (Neutrik) and Klotz cable. It means I can make them to any length I require - necessary as I use them all over the place for my guitars, basses and keyboards, as well as in the studio. I did have the chance to use a really expensive, hi-end guitarcable from a friend, but honestly I could not hear any tonal difference. The main advantage, seems to me, is that the better cables are just more durable, which is definitely what you look for when you're on the road - it's a nightmare having to deal with faulty cables while the audience starts sniggering. I certainly recommend making your own.
@chardmb
@chardmb Год назад
I switched to mogami years ago and now I have almost forgotten that guitar cables were once disposable commodities
@louisindelicato1406
@louisindelicato1406 Год назад
Mogami’s are great but there are so many great cable brands out there. If you are running more than 10 ft plus a board all those connections you absolutely need a buffer to preserve that signal as much as possible any ways. Ive got. Evidence and lava and Mogami’s , all great but i still love my fender purple Hendrix coil cables too. Ultimately you achieve your tone based on what you have and that’s all that matters. Practice, feel, playing dynamics are more important than the cables , nobody is gonna A/B them playing a gig and call you out. Chris Buck can make anything sound amazing . Work on your craft and use what you have as per JHS-Bad Monkey video proves. The fancy cables and pedals are just the sprinkles you add to the dessert they don’t change the substance of it. Great video Chris keep it up!
@elephantfootrisers
@elephantfootrisers Год назад
Best-Tronics CA-0446 Low Impedance Oxygen Free Instrument cable (tested superior to Mogami 2524 and Canare GS-6) - made in the USA
@Badhands55
@Badhands55 Год назад
Always used canare cables for whatever lengths I needed and always on the mic’s- now I like evedence audio directional and some planet waves stuff now
@voxshall
@voxshall Год назад
My favourite sounding cable is Vovox, but the difference was more noticeable plugged straight into an amp, which I don't do often enough.
@NoBSMusicReviews
@NoBSMusicReviews Год назад
Wired my pedalboard with Mogami. My guitar cables are ancient Monster Cable cords I made myself 35 years ago, with a class of Monster cable that's no longer even made. Pain to do: you have to dip the wires into a solder pot to burn off the Litz compound prior to soldering. And they're slightly microphonic too. But NOTHING I've ever tried can touch them! Not just more high end, but tight low end, with no flab. Also, and I heard this on your comparison too - transients just seem tighter and ever-so-slightly less slurred. All of these subtle differences add up to a real, palpable difference in playing live and recording.
@judih.8754
@judih.8754 Год назад
Cable commentary aside, I like what looks like a child's piano in the living room next to the telly. Will the younger Buck be a pianist and shun guitar? BTW : cool shoes Chris. Rock on!
@chukrock
@chukrock Год назад
I use Klotz Titanium 6 metres. I was working in a pro guitar shop when these first arrived on the market. We all thought it was snake-oil. So expensive! They couldn't possibly sound better than other hi-end cables. We were shocked to hear the additional high-end clarity that the lead provided. They are as 'dear as poison' but I treat them very well and they've lasted about 10 years so far. All of my other gear is top-end so why scrimp on the cables. No regrets.
@stuartanguish5111
@stuartanguish5111 Год назад
Worth watching for the police synchronicity t-shirt ❤
@z4570
@z4570 Год назад
I buy bulk hi -end cable such as Canare (there are others) and invest in the best quality plugs such as Neutriks which I solder together. I use a good boost from a company of your choice.
@stevelawrie9115
@stevelawrie9115 Год назад
Great review. Probably not much different than we'd expect. I was wondering if you'd do a review on wireless systems?
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