Is Time Running Out For This Former #1 Overall Draft Pick?

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In 2023, the former #1 overall pick clubbed 30 HRs in a breakout season. In 2024, he's looking more lost than ever. Let's try and figure out what's going on with Spencer Torkelson.
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@JollyOlive 28 дней назад

Spencer Torkelson, known 2022-year old

@EvSop93 28 дней назад

LOL! Love the content bro. Just found it funny.

@ethanniedorowski116 28 дней назад

Please don't do Henry Davis

@cleganebowldog6626 27 дней назад

@2:22

@komickaze85 27 дней назад

I noticed that, too. Funny stuff, man.

@NDTexan 26 дней назад

Spencer Methuselah Torkelson. Professional old man

@bknicley 28 дней назад

I’m so happy that JRam quote is being immortalized by being in a Happy Grape video

@thatoneoshawott5826 28 дней назад

He’s 24. This is pretty much is late sophomore slump. He’s got time

@305CardCollector 27 дней назад

Look at what Soto had accomplished by age 24. Torkelson is a MAJOR BUST

@vibin7027 27 дней назад

@@305CardCollector Crazy to expect everyone to be Soto lol

@305CardCollector 27 дней назад

@@vibin7027 Torkelson’s career WAR is -1.7. Crazy to call it a “sophomore slump” when he’s never had a good season

@OhAnd 27 дней назад

I'm not saying he's not gonna be good (He will likely figure it out to some degree) but I'd say he is likely going to end up being a bust for what his expectations were. His good season so far only resulted in a 105 ops+ as a poor fielding first baseman which is not worthy of being a full-time player. He should be able to get back to that level but is he able to find the consistency to be deserving of being a starting first baseman? Hoping that he is able to find that

@GeeEm1313 27 дней назад

*junior slump

@toast2893 28 дней назад

As a tigers fan, it’s a lack of aggression. He takes low 90s fastballs down the middle especially early in the at bat. He’s swinging at the first pitch 10% less than last year. Its all mental

@aflacktime5785 28 дней назад

Reminds me of my favorite player. Christopher morel these young guys are just getting in their own way hopefully they turn it around

@matthewdennis7390 27 дней назад

Which the coaches (we all know are bad) have to find a way to help him in any way

@cubsfan2016W 23 дня назад

Morel is just getting insanely unlucky. I feel like he smokes a ball that gets caught every game.

@aflacktime5785 23 дня назад

@@cubsfan2016W 1000% the case he’s also playing on a bad foot every game he re injured again tonight

@RileyJane7 27 дней назад

The Tigers inability to develop hitting prospects is something that needs to be studied. Since the turn of the century, only Bobby Higginson in 2000, Curtis Granderson in 2009 and Torkelson in 2023 have hit 30 homers in a Tigers uniform while also being a Tigers draft pick. Every other 30 homer hitter in that time frame for Detroit was a free agent or trade acquisition with almost all of them already being established hitters. Their pitching development has been great but as a Tigers fan, watching every hitting prospect we have either being a bust or they end up being far better elsewhere is so frustrating.

@drivewithbishop4426 27 дней назад

Sounds like the Mariners

@BigKeegDrives 26 дней назад

@@drivewithbishop4426 Midwest Mariners indeed. Great Lakers if you will

@cambusquaert9632 25 дней назад

Try being a giants fan. Guess the last guy to hit 30 with us

@RileyJane7 25 дней назад

@cambusquaert9632 Mate the Giants had 3 World Series wins in 5 years just a decade ago with a league MVP that they drafted and developed, I think you've survived lmao

@cambusquaert9632 25 дней назад

@@RileyJane7 don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t give those back for anything, it would be nice to break the stigma of hitting in oracle tho

@johnathanspore2378 28 дней назад

2:23 I keep replaying this over and over "The then 2022 year old" Is blowing my mind lmao its beautiful

@handsomemcwonderful4845 28 дней назад

If you sort 2020 draft class by WAR Tork is dead last

@kyleOWillFixIt 28 дней назад

Since only about 3% of the 2020 draft class (if that) have touched a major league field that would still put him in the upper echelon of the class success wise.

@BuccaneerBruce 28 дней назад

Still better than Asa Lacy who mailed it in very early.

@CADClicker 28 дней назад

Well yeah, he's bottom 10% in the majors and a large portion of that draft haven't made it to the majors

@peterskrobola8753 28 дней назад

Well he’s got a lot of playing time and plays brutal defense at 1st base.

@Waffle77362 28 дней назад

Toby Keith mentioned in a Happy Grape video? What a day

@davidott886 28 дней назад

I will say as a Tigers fan, I have confidence in Torkelson. He’s a really good guy, a incredibly hard worker, and a team leader. There’s a lot of negativity right now as a lot of Tigers fans are giving up on him and also hyper focusing on just him (a good majority of the team is slumping due to lack of aggression in the zone) however I refuse to give up on him. People seem to forget that he has just recently hit the full 2 seasons worth of games played. He missed a lot of time in the minors, and was thrown to the wolves in the Majors. I have faith, even though a lot of other fans don’t. My bigger issue with the tigers is how incredibly conservative Scott Harris is with calling up prospects, especially when you see Zach MicKinstry and Jake Rogers getting major league AB’s while J-hen and Dillon Dingler dominate AAA. All in all, I have faith in the person, and by proxy the ball player, and I refuse to give up on a 24 year old who’s had a 31 homer season

@jordannawrocki3362 27 дней назад

I think a lot of the negativity comes out of frustration knowing and seeing what is and can be in him as a player. We watch players like McKinstry and just that’s who he is. Torkelson has such a high, high ceiling (we’ve seen it), but we are watching the floor. It is nothing against him personally, it’s more aggravated because we are hoping for the guy to be great and we know he can be.

@davidott886 27 дней назад

@@jordannawrocki3362 I know, I just wish so many people wouldn’t be so incredibly negative and vocal. I know he’s struggling, But I’ve never been one to call for people to be cut, or if I do I will delete the comment once I’ve calmed down

@sporer_ 28 дней назад

as an everyday watcher of the Tigers, this is so good. the amount of times i scream SWINGGGG at Tork per night seems to multiply daily

@jordannawrocki3362 27 дней назад

Or yelling c’mon man every time he does swing and it’s right through a fastball down the middle.

@davidstachurski8755 28 дней назад

Can we get a modern tigers trade history, its crazy

@Karmy. 28 дней назад

I'd rather not have to remember any of those trades

@gavinwatson9677 28 дней назад

@@Karmy.same

@jimbobcooter9874 28 дней назад

@@Karmy. Agreed

@nathancorbin210 27 дней назад

It will just cause more suffering

@killeh6083 28 дней назад

my sweet prince Tork... Please revive your career :(

@ilovekatescott8057 27 дней назад

Gay

@Dameworth 27 дней назад

Finally, a Torkelson video. I feel like every at bat I see of him he's popping out or making weak contact. He's so close yet so far right now. I think it will click eventually. 30 home runs last year showed that he has the potential.

@henryrivera3397 28 дней назад

Your comedy in this video was incredible! Please keep it letting coming out

@weirddude8885 28 дней назад

That "ho-OOOme" made me physically wince

@brycewilson1909 26 дней назад

thanks for the breakdown, good stuff! fingers crossed Tork will figure it out

@jethrojacinto2798 28 дней назад

I'm rooting for Tork, I hope he finds a way to breakout sooner rather than later.

@benana4382 27 дней назад

every saturday i get to hear the happy grape talk about baseball with mario music in the background life is good

@adamsavat4769 28 дней назад

Thanks for a measured and level headed take on Tork!

@chrislewis5069 28 дней назад

Don't give up on torkelson. He's a beast

@basebatter94 28 дней назад

Saturdays are good days because we get a new Jolly video.

@WhiteGuyNextDoor 27 дней назад

This video made me happy, thank you Jolly

@evandouglas5414 27 дней назад

Maybe your best vid to date Jolly! Love it

@komickaze85 27 дней назад

Funny how I'm watching the Red Sox/Tigers game while I watch this. I'm a Sox fan, but I have nothing against the Tigers since 2013 when we faced them in the ALCS and they were so good, but we beat them. Hopefully Spencer figures it out...again. Great video, Jolly!

@kylewardell8604 28 дней назад

Scherzer wasn't a rookie, he started 30 games for Arizona the year before the Tigers traded for him

@shhhvcnear 27 дней назад

I just want to say your taste in video game music is 10/10

@joehaas2598 28 дней назад

He was drafted by the tigers who are notorious for horrendous position player development. No one wants to admit it but players careers change drastically based on who drafts you. Tork would be an all star if drafted by a Houston/Atlanta/Philadelphia/etc.

@nicholastricarico2957 28 дней назад

He's going to get traded to Houston in 2027 and become an All-Star that year, isn't he?

@williamford9564 25 дней назад

It is Tuesday, 3 days later, and yesterday the Tigers sent him down to the minors to, according to A J Hinch, to make adjustments to his swing and apparently also to improve his defense at first base.

@astroamc 28 дней назад

Wassup, Jolly? Love the content, bro bro.

@Xansby 28 дней назад

5:40 I love it😂

@kurtwoods9789 28 дней назад

Thanks for that pic of Aaron Judge - signed an O's fan

@248624862486100 26 дней назад

Good timing on this one, go see Tork rake in Toledo!

@pasketti2404 28 дней назад

i love when boisterous banana uploads

@kadenbraaflat8015 26 дней назад

Can you do something on eddy julien because I swear every time he gets to a 3-2 which is often he strikes out

@chowdergirl8094 28 дней назад

the super mario odyssey music is so good here lol

@StewieGriffin111 26 дней назад

Thanks jolly you got him sent to AAA

@torkelson4289 26 дней назад

Class video.

@user-ds3in8gt8s 22 дня назад

You should make a series out of this called trust or bust i think it would be a good idea for young stars struggling and analyzing them

@SymplyAG 24 дня назад

Just optioned him too wow

@jacobmckevitt6735 23 дня назад

Love Jolly, he uses Pokemon music in his vids. Pokemon + Baseball is the best!

@MJCFilms 28 дней назад

AHHH THE PLATINUM LAKE THEME

@devlnbowden 28 дней назад

Nate Pearson is the player I’m hoping can turn it around, just want him to be a good reliever and still hope he can be a big league starter.

@ethank-l4930 28 дней назад

what was the main issue with him as a starter besides injuries etc

@devlnbowden 28 дней назад

@@ethank-l4930 to be honest injuries dropped his name on the depth chart, eventually they wanted to get him through a season in the bullpen, unfortunately he lacks consistency and command, person I feel he tries to throw to many sliders, which I don’t get, when he throws upper 90s. I wish I could see him throw more fastballs and try to work his secondary pitches of that.

@asdfaeou 27 дней назад

I was looking away from the screen during the God Bless America gag, and thought "man, has he just been hunting for a way to use that clip? Then I rewound and got my answer.

@a_kraeft1 25 дней назад

I'm a lifelong Tigers fan and I do believe that he needed to go to Toledo for some mechanics-related evaluation. He's still young and in a sophomore slump but a lot of guys don't immediately thrive in the big leagues right off the bat (*pun intended*). That being said I think he will be brought back up in due time it's not like he's a struggling vet that is kept in the lineup (AKA Javy Baez) day in and day out and is a liability in nearly all facets of his game.

@rngfootball759 28 дней назад

Joey Bart. Hes already on a 2nd team. Was drafted to replace Posey. On the same team as Henry Davis.

@bmac4 28 дней назад

Its kinda a shame. Though as a Giants fan Pat Bailey is a nice consolation so far

@Ian00003 26 дней назад

13:10 pulling fly balls is one of the most effective way to hit more home runs

@bearswin4 27 дней назад

Do one about how the White Sox need to option Andrew Vaughn please Jolly!!!

@TOMahwk707 28 дней назад

If he keeps it up, how about a vid on David Fry

@rayanbfeverr 28 дней назад

No ! Leave Fry alone 😂

@canaanlocke4375 27 дней назад

He’s got one of my favorite swings hope he turns it around

@Gravy_Jones22 28 дней назад

Video on Julio Franco please

@jacknelson6163 28 дней назад

I would love to see a video about Dylan Carlson. Cardinals fans including myself thought he was going to be the next face of the franchise after what he did in the second half of 2021

@RuanTheDon 28 дней назад

Wooded Kingdom from SMO is Jolly’s favorite background music

@bmac4 28 дней назад

Its all damn over youtube lol

@capraagricola 25 дней назад

Because of MLB players' bat paths slightly curving upwards as they get through the zone, getting under fastballs IS the same as being late on it.

@seanwalkerfilm 27 дней назад

Might just be me, but it seems EVERYONE is playing below the normal with the exception of a few players. OPS across the league is down, teams like the Braves and Dodgers aren’t as offensively potent. Seems like pitchers have a greater advantage this season.

@nathancorbin210 27 дней назад

As a Tigers fan I think I can speak on this. I think whats most annoying about Tork is he is just incapable of hitting the mistake pitches. His hips go too early which makes him pull everything. He had a good like week stretch where his timing was good, but now its back to bad. Now defense is atrocious but little underrated thing with him hes elite at scooping at first. Which is helpful when your infield is a converted 3rd basemen at second, a plethora of Gods finest utility players at third, and Javier Baez at short…

@doesanyonehavegum327 26 дней назад

As an ASU fan, I wanted my Dodgers to make a deal to acquire him after Justin Turner. I really hope you can figure it out in AAA and make his way back up.

@Brhoward31 26 дней назад

My pro career ended the same way, here si the fix. He needs to be comfortable striking out. I know it's weird but when you have been a Pujols-style player, it's tough to get to become Adam Dunn.

@kajr8580 27 дней назад

Someone get this video in Torkelson’s inbox asap. He might appreciate the in depth analysis.

@MVE2399 27 дней назад

Ozuna (From the Braves) mention

@kyleOWillFixIt 28 дней назад

Oh, as a Braves fan it hurts so bad realizing they had 4 of MLBs top 6 hitters by barrel% last year, an this year with 3 of the 4 still healthy Marcell Ozuna is the only one who can hit gis way out of a paper bag.

@MichaelPCaruana 27 дней назад

Emotionally, I've given up on him. He is sort of symbolic of the team in a way, he will give you just enough to have some hope that he can turn it around then follow that up with a a week long slump. Logically, he's 24, 30 home runs simply cannot be a fluke (right?) And there is still 4 months of the season to go. But the more time he spends taking pitches he should swing and destroying his average and on base, the less time he has to bring those numbers up. I'm convinced that a combination of 2020 having no season and 2022 disaster rookie season completely destroyed his development. If he succeeds, it will not be with the tigers

@colingeiman5169 26 дней назад

Good timing for Tork to get sent down to AAA

@georgemeade1254 21 день назад

Max Scherzer wasn't a Tiger's prospect, he wasn't even a rookie by that point

@tjizzle8155 26 дней назад

Yes

@ryanstevens11 26 дней назад

Right on cue he got optioned today, this aged well

@cebolla1449 28 дней назад

HAPPY GRAPE

@ryanabbott5351 26 дней назад

Goated for the seinfeld reference

@coltrueg 28 дней назад

Love to see all those bottom 10 AL players on the Mariners roster. Shows how hard the pitching is carrying them to be first in the worst division.

@daylyncolmorgen2006 28 дней назад

That’s baseball?

@TheWizardous 28 дней назад

11:11 lol

@croke835 28 дней назад

Most relievers do throw 95+, but Ryan Yarborough does still exist (somehow)

@PopOutPaulie 27 дней назад

If you remember back in 2022 there was so much hype between him and Jrod and most Baseball people were picking Tork to win the AL ROY. They were literally saying this dude is one of the best all around hitters that we seen in a long time. So for him to be one of the worst players in 2022 was a shock. I cant lie after last year i personally thought this was gonna be the season he really breaks out where he hit 40-50 hrs. That clearly doesn't look like its gonna happen. Hopefully he finds it cause dude definitely has the talent.

@TheTEN24 28 дней назад

That difference is his spray chart is definitely alarming

@YankeesFan0620 26 дней назад

2 Days post video drop: Spencer Torkelson optioned to Triple A

@cliffordangus 28 дней назад

I can't wait for you to be sponsored by morton's salt in next month's videos

@TheHockeyjock10 27 дней назад

Is that the Lake Verity theme from Pokémon D&P I hear?

@patricknoonan3610 27 дней назад

Why not to focus on, Homer's as a primary hit but, keep the ball down and, or find gaps in the infield and, out field. Home runs are a mistake pitch pro-level hitters make, pitcher pay for.

@patricknoonan3610 27 дней назад

With the pitcher aspest: home runs are mistakes they make with, not locating or a fast but, hitable fast ball down the middle.

@wockcup38 26 дней назад

he’s in his own head to much. The power and talent is still there us tiger fans see it. It’s just all mental for tork he’s gotta get outta his head

@supermario_49 28 дней назад

I saw the title and I thought it would be about Mickey Moniak

@warslayerxxx 26 дней назад

Jolly olive makes a video. A day and half later Tork is sent down

@nolankane6704 28 дней назад

My sweet Torkapatamous prince, he will figure things out soon

@tyler3876 26 дней назад

24, still got time. Next year is make or break though

@ac-zn9lu 4 дня назад

It's never too late. Jurickson Profar is actively proving this right now.

@drewlally2324 23 дня назад

He hit a lot of Tork 💣s at ASU that’s for sure

@Lgz009 28 дней назад

11:18 why did I die here

@BuccaneerBruce 28 дней назад

Because you were meant to do so.

@rillerTv 28 дней назад

My first baseman in fantasy baseball

@nicholastricarico2957 28 дней назад

I drafted him. Released him a month later, because I just didn't have the patience. So far, I haven't been proven wrong.

@rillerTv 27 дней назад

@@nicholastricarico2957 he had a slow start last season and turned in on after the all star break dont be surprised if he still hits 25 home runs

@wyattbarnes9641 26 дней назад

@@rillerTv Sent down, time to drop him

@rillerTv 23 дня назад

@@wyattbarnes9641 ik im pissed

@seno9771 22 дня назад

Reminds me of Jared Kelenic, all mental

@roygoodhand1301 27 дней назад

#DetroitVersusEverybody, Urinating Tree 3.0, #DetroitVersusEverybody. Look at our schedule, especially in July. Between July 1 and August 4, we have TWENTY games in our division. For us, it's still early. I call it Do-Or-Die July because of that. IF we're in the same boat August 5, THEN you can talk. Leave Tork alone! Go after Casey Mize instead: he's letting us down! Oh, and Tarik Skubal is AWESOME.