Tom says ‘ask a Liverpool fan’ well I’m a Liverpool fan and salah absolutely makes an all time XI. He’s absolutely magic and scarily consistent, 20+ goals and 10+ assists every season, wouldn’t trade him for another player in the world. Tom’s salah tales are horrendous
idk how someone can say this when he went two calendar years without scoring, sure he'd have more goals playing in that liverpool front three but I doubt they'd be as much as Salahs. To Toms point of salah not being entertaining or having that "wow" ig he forgot about the 17/18 or start to 21/22 season man was electric.@@icewallowcom3526
Nah tbh Salah's also nicer on the ball than Zaha...Zaha's just doing the steps overs but doesn't really amount to anything... but Salah's definitely not the best winger in EPL history... Ronaldo and Hazard clears
The only thing I've been hearing for the last three months is that Saka is overrated and I get it every person that says he's better than Salah is just wrong. But still this man is 22, he already hit double digits in both goals and assists in a 'bad' season (all comp). And he has been doing this for a relatively long period of time.
Yeah I think folks gotta keep in mind that it’s proportional to the praise and hype they receive. Saka is terrific but he’s not THE world beater that he’s made to be-overrated. If that makes sense
One should also look into what country the players get rated from. In England and english press, Saka is overrated. That goes down in other countries. If Salah was english he'd probably be overrated in english media too but I think he's probably rated just about correctly. Outside Egypt I'd wager.
Fr. I’d still lean towards overrated rather than underrated, just because I don’t think he’s either, but he was incredibly disrespected in this video. Last season, he was world class and in everyone’s team of the year. The fact that his “terrible form” is still over 10 goals 10 assists proves his quality. He’s still nowhere near Salah’s level and was massively overrated last year, tho. The agenda some players get against them is crazy.
Dont think Pato would put up with him. At least with Sam when he chatted shite you knew he meant it. Tom just says whatever outrageous thing will get him the most clicks. Hes a fame whore
@@Smith89123Always moving the goalposts “he wouldn’t do it here, he wouldn’t do it there” yet he does it. You’re literally having to bring up different eras to discount what Saka does…
@@Smith89123 Tell me you understand ball without telling me you don't understand ball. Wanna justify how defending is worse? Is it because they're smaller as I doubt that.
Tom's ball knowledge is crime at this point. I'm a liverpool fan and Salah is one of two or three players that made this liverpool side victorious for the last 6 to 7 years. We're talking about an all timer, Africs best player ever and PL best RW. He was a team that broke a 30yrs old curse and win the Ucl in a same calender. If not Real Madrid & Man city. We would take about; 3 Pl winner, 3 Ucl winner, Ballondor winner, triple winner & Quadriple winner and so many others. There was a times he was the best player in the world and messi version of the pl when it comes to pure talent. At the time of speaking he is still performing at the top level of this game. He is so under rated that some people gonna argue that he wouldnt make liverpool all time XI which is mental. As a liverpool fan i'm sure that if Mo stays 3 more years he come down BEST LIVERPOOL PLAYER OF ALL TIME.
Love to see you doing videos and love that a couple of the guys from FD are doing content with you. Hope the rest of the crew jump ship and join you here.
Suarez was there 3 years not a year and a half he also won a league cup and he was a prolific striker just he used to take 30 yard shots and try and log the keeper every game but chances that he needed to tuck away 9/10 he would score
And the question wasn’t rate these players in the Prem. so Suarez time in Barca needs to be counted. He out scored the two best players in the world Messi and Ronaldo. Suarez need to be a lot higher on those lists.
I really liked Tom being in the vedio, there should always be atleast one guy who has unpopular opinions, it's good for the content and also if everyone just agrees to everything, what's the point?
Please don’t let Tom back, he doesn’t know football, he only has a career in the space because he baits reactions. That’s so obvious, especially around people who make sense
He reminds me of american alt-right political grifters on social media who have no backbone, no conviction, just baiting people with outrage in order to mass views.
I like how Saka is 'overrated' because he doesnt do what a Prime Salah is doing. Salah was no where near the player Saka was at 21/22. Yes, Vini Jr is probably the best RW in the game today at a similar age - and that puts Saka what, 2nd best RW for his age group? Pretty blooming good. Saka also plays a in a system where Arteta requires certain things of him, something Carlo doesnt do to Vini as Carlo has said he basically lets his players flow and hes just there to control vibes.
Klopp over Wenger is ridiculous 💀 Wenger revolutionised football in the premier league let alone Arsenal, and won 3x the prems Klopp did. 1 UCL doesn’t make up for 2 premier leagues and what wenger has done outside of trophies
@@marko9463 U are crazy if u think klopp is tactically anywhere near wenger. The guy made top 4 pretty much his whole career. Trophies with it, invincible. Liquid football. And the teams he mad top 2 top3 and top 4's with in the latter stages of his career. They would be borderline bottom under klopp.
@@antoniodiamonte3424 I know klopp has never gone invinvible but he was 1cm from being invincible, two wins from a quad, has also consistently finished top 4 only exceptions being injury plagued seasons. Battle against theninfinite wealth of a saudi billionaire and a russian oligarch. Manage to hit 90+ points on multiple occasions. Is also able to adapt his team well as time passes.
If this video proves anything it's that Saka is super underrated by general football fans, but these guys have it in their head because their Arsenal mates rate Saka he has to be overrated.
Aguero not being top 3 just proves how underrated that man is, injuries every season, scored 25 goals a season, carried city for 10 years, iconic moments, literally a full generation of people defenders would say they feared aguero, all times of goals and his play making too is so underrated
The fact that your reaction to 5/6 people calling him overrated to justify a point that he’s underrated proves that he’s actually overrated. Do you see how this line of thinking is stupid lol
James shout on aguero is terrible. Aguero under mancini and pelegrini which was half the time he spent in the prem, he wouldn’t get those chances under pep and quite literally carried our teams. Aguero goal record is the best in prem history bar Haaland and quite literally has the biggest moments in the prem against the best teams. If kane played for us we would habe won less coz he can’t do it in big moments, look at his career!
The one good argument you could make with putting Klopp over Ferguson is that Ferguson's best ever season (after over 20 years in the Prem) has been 92 pts. Klopp has reached or surpassed that THREE TIMES in the last 8 seasons. He should have more Premier Leagues than he does, but Man City have been too dominant. Ferguson, on the other hand, has won the PL during a 75-point season.
I’m honestly cannot remember a point that Tom has made that I have agreed with. He is listened to as he shouted the loudest and doesn’t let others speak to prove his points wrong and is just all round a bit of a mug
This is definitely the best style of video in my opinion as long as the guests aren’t interrupting eachother which happens on a lot of other channels I’m glad they let eachother speak
I'm with you here, Henry. Klopp "only" won 2 league titles because he played against the best manager and team of all time. If it weren't for Pep, Klopp would've wipped the PL with an all-time high quality of managers. Sir Alex was incredible and is certantly in the conversation, but Klopp is surely clear of Mourinho and Wenger, and is up there with GOATs.
The disrespect to Aguero is insane, 6th is absolutely criminal he is 2nd at worst, top goals per min, most hatrics, most goals against top 6, for a man argueing that goals are everything for sala James went straight back on that when talking about strikers, he is one of the best only rivaled by Henry, and rory putting drogba over aguero is criminal, big game player aguero had the most goals by a large margin against top 6 oposition, won city our first prem tital and was great in an unexperienced city side in the UCL.
That's because he actually knows what he's talking about, the things he says for purely for a headline are obvious, but his football talk has never been awful.
Need to sort out the keyword selection on this video mate. Saw this on Tik Tok and couldn’t find this when typing in just Rory and James’ names. Best to get the bigger influencers faces in the thumbnail also for more views. Keep it up cos this is a great video!
James is the only one who used actual lock and not bias. Everyone else just went with “Twitter takes” since that’s the only way they get their videos to go viral
Just wanted to bring up the fact that James said Saka had the same amount of goals as Salah last season. Salah had 30 (1 every 143 mins) Saka had 15 (1 every 247 mins). Absolutely embarrassing.
In the league Saka played 3,191 Minutes... Salah played 3,294. The part you should have had a problem with is the goals argument as salah scored 5 more. He did attempt almost 50 more shots though. I think you guys need to calm down as I dont even think James is trying to argue is saka better but if saka is hitting near salah and you consider salah WC then what seperates saka from being WC.
@@mitchgraham3882 attempts and getting in position just makes it all the better, it's not like salah is in a position to always receive feed assists, he's the one who feeds. Also tfym WC? Egypt qualified under 5 times and one of them was under Salah while England is pretty much always a free shot at the WC. This is why we call the man underrated
@@N15-m9u WC= world class not World Cup. Although I agree more attempts doesn’t mean worse I was using it as an argument against saka having more opportunities due to playing and getting more chances last year. When you read my reply try and read the tweet I’m replying to for context, could help.
What is buvey on about with Havertz he was signed because we needed someone who can win aerial duels, his winning mentality, he’s a big game player and he wasn’t a replacement for Xhaka they play completely different positions as much as I do agree in saying Kai wasn’t a good summer signing he isn’t anywhere near as bad as Buvey said
I stand with tom, Salahs numbers are insane but i personally don’t think his performance match, he doesn’t excite you like many other wingers in prem history. Just my personal opinion, maybe I’m wrong
how mason mount wasn't mentioned for worst signing is crazy. has been injured mainly. hasn't been amazing when healthy they paid 10 million more then they had to and he has already lost his spot to mainoo. 60 million pounds for nothing. at least kai has the assist against city and winner at Brentford
Kudos to Henry for standing up for Klopp! Arsenal fan here but Klopp having 7-8 yr reigns at 3 clubs and achieving great things against odds at all 3 is an insane achievement! That being said, SAF still tops the list by a mile. The Mourinho nostalgia needs to end.
@@Prime1Wunna we're just comparing trophies at that point though.. Mourinho has taken top jobs everywhere.. Klopp has literally built teams from scratch everywhere he's been.. nothing takes away from inter and Porto achievement.. but they were still the top clubs in their respective leagues.. not to mention mourinhos second half has pretty much been failure after failure and leaving clubs in absolute disarray
I liked this new show Zac! Obviously it flows a lil worse than team talk cus the presenters don’t know each other as well, but I liked this! Pitch: Zac + the 4 voted out should vote for who they think is the winner, not just Zac!
Rory is soo inconsistent with his ideas, he literally was saying that Saka is future Ballon d’or talent and now saying he is overrated and wouldn’t make it in 98’ Squad.
I dont get the basis for James opinions. Picks Salah over Hazard coz he says output is more important than what ifs but then picks Kane over Aguero coz he did it in a worse team despite having worse output? Surely then you'd pick Hazard too for carrying a worse team?
Love the content! Keep up the good work! But a couple of the takes were pretty shocking.. I’m a Chelsea fan and I have to agree Salah is just an all time great.
Prime Mourinho conceded 15 goals in a season, and then went on to retain the title the following year. Klopp won the league and then the next season Liverpool were dubbed 'The Worst Champions'.
An interesting tidbit of information. There has only been three seasons in Pep's entire management career that he hasn't won. It has been Klopp each time that has usurped Pep. Twice with Dortmund and once with Liverpool.
Tom is just a firestarter, it's the only reason he is invited to stuff like this cause you know he isnt gonna agree with what is a sensible human being would. Dont get me started on that dumpster fire of a "football" podcast with Theo Baker and that Newcastle fan, everytime I listen to them it makes it wanna kms
