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Is YOUR Hay the PROBLEM? | Vegetable GROWERS NEED TO HEAR THIS! Chemicals Used on Hay Ruin Gardens! 

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After hours of research, I have found out why my tomato plants on one side of the greenhouse grew really fast and curled. Can Hay be the problem? We found some very startling facts about hay production and harvest. This has been the problem with our garden for the past couple of years. Chemicals used on hay, animals eating hay, and us using the manure for compost on plants.
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@valh9858
@valh9858 4 года назад
Wow Danny, I can understand your anger. I had no idea about this. I bought 2 bales of straw and asked if they knew if the straw was sprayed with chemicals since it was going around my potatoes....they looked at me as if I were from Mars. It seemed like a perfectly reasonable question to me.
@donnaocasio45
@donnaocasio45 4 года назад
Omg , thank y’all SOOOOOOO much. This is the very thing that I have o.c.d about. Everything is contaminated, I mean EVERTHING. I’ve realized it along time ago but was told I was nuts, everything from lotions, deodorants, soaps , shampoos, clothing, air and water. It’s overwhelming and terrifying..
@beebob1279
@beebob1279 3 года назад
Not my yard. No chemicals here. I have insects and worms and what people call weeds. Nothing is a weed except for grass
@OhItsJustMe2
@OhItsJustMe2 4 года назад
This is why we have so much cancers and other medical issues.
@MsLippy
@MsLippy 4 года назад
This is a video that needs to go far and wide.. Wow, I cant thank you enough for this lesson... Many Blessings Yalls Way
@wandawilliams3110
@wandawilliams3110 4 года назад
"Buyer's Beware". It's good that channel like yours exist. I have always wondered about a lot of the bagged manure being sold. It's time we learn to buy from our neighbors when possible.. Or, really and truly go back to the old ways.. Or, we will do more harm than good in most cases. I won't buy seeds any more, from ANYONE, that I don't know personally.. I today choose my battles, to prevent a war. Thank you for sharing this Danny. " We are what we eat ". I always tell my granddaughter, stay away from bagged manure for such a small garden and her pots. I hope she's listened.. It's just to much misinformation and half truth. Thank you again for sharing Peace
@jeremiahlackey1582
@jeremiahlackey1582 4 года назад
Thank you for this valuable timely information Danny! Just yesterday I was looking over my pastures and hay meadows and was about to pull the trigger on having them all sprayed with grazon. I used to spray some of them with low vol 6 but haven’t in about 15 years now. The weeds are starting to choke out the grass and take over. If I had that sprayed that it would have killed off my feed source as far as all the gardens, fruit and nut trees, all the different berries and grapes not to mention tainting the meat when I process my cows for the freezer. This is must know valuable information that no one around my area seems to know. Thank You Danny for bringing this to my attention!
@renatehaeckler9843
@renatehaeckler9843 4 года назад
Sheep will happily eat most of the weeds and restore the pasture to grass and clover.
@christiebetts4970
@christiebetts4970 4 года назад
How frustrating! I know of one gardener who had problems with herbicides in straw he mulched his garden with.I would be concerned about the affects on the pregnant cows with this chemical.We're always being told a chemical is "safe" and then down the line finding out its not
@NS-pf2zc
@NS-pf2zc 4 года назад
It really is quite an epidemic! I always check and check and check with the hay farmers we get hay from. One thing you can do is test the manure by planting a couple of beans in it, and then plant some control beans in unaffected soil and see if the curling happens. To test the hay you do the same thing, but instead watering with water you've soaked and then strained out the suspect hay. One way to find hay that doesnt have aminopyralids (grazon isnt the only brand that has that chemical) is to find a poor farmer who can't afford to spray. Then look for broadleaf weeds in that hay. And triple check to make sure they dont put ANYTHING on those fields. Sorry you guys got burnt by this.
@ABamaGardener
@ABamaGardener 4 года назад
Danny, I'm so sorry this happened to you. This is what I have been writing to you about this past year. DON'T use straw either because they kill it to harvest with round-up. Here in Alabama its the same as Mississippi. We are so depended of chemicals that they don't even think about what its doing. Now that you got some clean bales you're gonna have to figure out how to grow your own. Please watch Gabe Brown under my "Soil Biology" playlist. It will help you with that and Yes his idea's do work in the southern soils. I also can put you in touch with Ray Archuleta. if you want to speak to him directly. What you can do now with that "bad" compost pile is get some bio-char. You can buy some Royal Oak Natural Lump Charcoal break it up into small bits and incorporate it into your compost. (abt 5%) this will help absorb and breakdown any heavy metals and toxins.. Call me if you need phone numbers.
@danelleroundabouts2559
@danelleroundabouts2559 4 года назад
bio char and mushrooms helped me clean up soil. I thought I was getting some rich compost & soil as it was recommended by a friend. When it was delivered I could smell diesel. Thought well duh it's the truck. After the truck left I could still smell it. Next day could still smell it. It was from the soil!. Called to see where this came from. Well it was scrapings off a saw mill parking lot!! CRAAAP no wonder. Young and dumb didn't think about it prior. Trusted someone else. Now I know.
@naplescajun
@naplescajun 4 года назад
I have stopped using Blk Cow because of the grazon. Veggie growers---beware. Thank you Danny for making this video!
@onedazinn998
@onedazinn998 4 года назад
oh no thanks for the heads-up...had plans to use black cow in my garden beds this year...
@wandawilliams3110
@wandawilliams3110 4 года назад
This is what I've been telling my granddaughter.. I've seen some problems with her beans, where she used this yellow bag.. So, she stopped. But, she has been using it for a while.. I expressed my concern.. I personally don't believe any of it is safe. I believe in just a while, it will be shown that I'm right.. So, she's now at our compost pile..
@geminilove4682
@geminilove4682 4 года назад
naplescajun Now you tell me! Seriously thou, BC was my go to fertilizer every year. Will have to try other ways.
@edwardleroy7648
@edwardleroy7648 4 года назад
Thank you very much. I wish that I had seen this sooner. Like Miss State says, "wait until next year".
@jawjagrrl
@jawjagrrl 4 года назад
Oh no! We added this in small amounts last year and nothing has done well since. Thought I'd lost my touch, blamed the rain, etc. Maybe it was that damn manure. Should have stuck with out own compost, but didn't have enough of it yet.
@joyceobeys6818
@joyceobeys6818 4 года назад
I hate GMOed foods! I wonder if they can say it’s organic when they use that stuff? Recently, The mennonites had dirt I bought that killed my plants. They buy it from a mushroom harvester then they add their manure to it, they bag it then sell it. I can’t figure it out why my plants are dying and this could be the reason. I even put ground dirt and Epsom salts hoping that would stop everything from dying. Maybe they are doing the same thing in spraying because they use lots of pesticides or maybe the mennonites are buying their hay out side of their community and the mennonites may not know either. But they hardly have anything organic. A few tomatoes n that’s it. And they spray directly on each plant while they wear gas masks. Which doesn’t make sense, because they eat the fruit n vegys that they spray. This world drives me to upset with the sin. I tried telling a few very kindly that it’s truly not loving your neighbor as yourselves when you sell them foods with pesticides. They told me there was a split over that very subject and some went north to a different camp where they grow all organic. But my husband and I still can’t find the organic community. Thank you so much for sharing this.
@Cdngardengirl
@Cdngardengirl 4 года назад
I figured this out about 20 years ago and tried to tell people but no one would believe me, as they didn't believe you, and they insisted everything was fine. The chemical companies said so. As my mum used to say: And if they told you to bang your head against a brick wall, would you do that, too?
@dirtdiggerjerry
@dirtdiggerjerry 3 года назад
I feel your pain. I lost over 200 tomato plants in my high tunnel all because of Grazon herbicide from the hay that was fed to horses that we used for our compost!!!
@bluebird4021
@bluebird4021 2 года назад
yep.
@loisyoung595
@loisyoung595 4 года назад
Danny, when you said that they are spraying that crap on the hay, my heart sank. The first thing I thought of is all that meat I was so careful to buy because it is organic grass fed beef and it was all for not! Then you said what I was thinking. Makes me so angry!!! I don't have a lot of money coming in, but I was trusting that I was making healthy choices, even tho it costs way more than the other meats. This makes me so angry!! So tired of being lied to, especially when it comes to the food I buy!! I am not in the position of being able to raise my own critters. I have to rely on these companies to tell me the truth that I am getting what I expect to get and they lie!!! They are killing us slowly!!!
@Sasha8pancakes
@Sasha8pancakes 3 года назад
"America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry and kill it slowly because that's what we do to countries that we hate" - Benjamin Netanyahu. 'They' own everything dont research the talmud or you might get angry that they think you're worse than a dog
@enchilada1956
@enchilada1956 4 года назад
Good catch and good research!! I now have to go back to the source of all that grass-fed antibiotic hormone free beef I bought and check to see if they sprayed this herbicide on the grass they ate...I also wonder about the bags of steer manure I bought for my vegetable garden...that manure could indeed contain that herbicide...it never ends...
@molliejonte2732
@molliejonte2732 4 года назад
Thank you so much for this super valuable information. I had no idea. So many of us use our animal manure. Wow
@preppernut
@preppernut 4 года назад
I'm sharing this video, Danny, I hope that you don't mind. Poisoning the soil should be illegal. I don't want to eat the beef or drink the milk, eat the cheese or anything dairy from the store from now on. What about the pelleted feed that we buy for our chickens and rabbits? Could that be contaminated as well? If so, they are going on a new diet, because we use that manure for our garden.
@jdaniels6913
@jdaniels6913 4 года назад
You encountered GRAZON which is only one of the persistent herbicides, there are more. The four main persistent herbicides of concern are clopyralid (sold as Confront, Stinger, and other brands), picloram (sold as Tordon or Grazon), aminopyralid (sold as Milestone, ForeFront, and other brands) and aminocyclopyrachlor (sold as Imprelis, Streamline, and other brand names) .
@nancyschriver113
@nancyschriver113 3 года назад
Isn't imperils the herbicide that killed all those trees a few years back?
@karen15061
@karen15061 4 года назад
We have used horse manure in our garden from our horses. My garden was so sickly that I gave up gardening for 2 years. This year, I used an organic cow manure. I wonder if it has that chemical as well?
@karen15061
@karen15061 4 года назад
Also, it’s just not the hay. We also feed grain to our animals. Who knows what they spray on those crops grown for animal feed. So you can be getting contaminated manure from that as well.
@dianaatjustusacres4698
@dianaatjustusacres4698 4 года назад
We grow our own hay-no chemicals! Good info
@lostnfoundinchrist4812
@lostnfoundinchrist4812 4 года назад
are you selling any? in SC
@featheredcoyote5477
@featheredcoyote5477 3 года назад
Can a person do well with 40 acres of hay? I currently cash rent to a farmer and want who sprays all kinds of chemicals on the soil. If I were to choose to grow hazardous free hay, how long would the soil need to correct itself from years of spray? Thanks for any advice on this. Northern Indiana
@christineoffthegrid6373
@christineoffthegrid6373 3 года назад
@@featheredcoyote5477 I have 35 acres of hay and it has been excellent for many years, but last year our friend decided to put fertilizer on it. I don't think it helped anything. It most likely just needed over seeding and moisture. I think letting a hay field be cut and allow to decompose every 7 or so years could be beneficial too, but unlikely to happen for most farmers.
@featheredcoyote5477
@featheredcoyote5477 3 года назад
@@christineoffthegrid6373 thank you for your response!
@ARasputinaFan
@ARasputinaFan 2 года назад
@@featheredcoyote5477 I'm wondering the same things. We are about to take back our family farm, which has been sprayed and overworked for decades by people wanting only to make a buck. It made our horses sick just eating the nearby grass and the one time they didn't plant Mnsto/the right kind of corn, the neighboring field owner sprayed something that floated over to our fields and killed more than a whole acre from overspray. Folks, this is ridiculous!! If the guy across the street from you sprays something and it kills your crops, especially if they are GMO, what is nature trying to tell us?!?!?
@kathleenperdue9753
@kathleenperdue9753 4 года назад
Jesse from Roots & Refuge homestead has the leaf curl on her tomatoes & she didn't know why it started happening. You might tell her I think she would like to know, those tomatoes are in her new High Tunnel greenhouse. Thanks for sharing this important issue. God bless you and Wanda.👼💞🙏💖
@jimt6151
@jimt6151 3 года назад
Rachel Carson tried to warn us, back in the 60's! I ran across a random on-line article about this a while back, and have been trying, without much luck, to find out more details. I got lucky, because I was just about to collect some manure from some livestock ranch to up-size my compost production, when I started to learn about these herbicides. I don't currently have any livestock to produce manure for compost. Now, I'm on a mission to trace the chemicals all the way back to the farm before I'll use any manure. And, when I am ready to add livestock to my place, I'll research every outside feed source before using it. Thanks for this video! God bless y'all!
@larrymoore6640
@larrymoore6640 4 года назад
Danny I would have never thought that a person that sells hay would use a chemical like that. Like you, I thought the very first cutting was to help stop the weeds then all cuttings after were the standard type hay. Sad that we can't trust people that sell a simple thing like hay.
@normanrambo4189
@normanrambo4189 4 года назад
God bless you for caring about your fellow man and taking the time to let us know about this. You just can't trust a lot of folks today, because all they are concerned about is the all mighty $$$$$. The love of money is the root of all evil. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@deblong56
@deblong56 4 года назад
The reality is frightening...poisons and irritants are EVERYWHERE! TOO many believe that if a product is available to buy, it is okay to use it. Thank you for pointing out OTHER examples of consumers not educated to dangers...and producers reaching for perfections. Now you and others have to deal with nonchalant practices. I appreciate the information that you both share. God Bless.
@bluejean55girl73
@bluejean55girl73 4 года назад
Back in 2009 I had a twh stallion, full round bale 13% Bermuda all to himself and fresh water. Dewormed, teeth floated and losing unexplained weight. He got down to skin and bones, stayed 24 days at a vet clinic and blood tests showed being off but nothing that they could ever figure out even after calling experts all over the USA. Sent him home with the chilling words "When he stops eating you'll know it's time to put him down". With nothing left to loose I put him on a specific horse feed all he could eat and a thin silver of alfalfa hay 2x a day. This feed has probiotics in it as well as Trace minerals. Which I believe got his gut enzymes going again. 6 weeks later he was looking like his old self again. I lost him two years later to a large cancer mass around his heart that eventually blinded one eye and going for the other. Lost a brood mare too and a several cows from that hay. Through questions and research I finally found out it was Dupont Direct 4L (pre-emergent for weeds) that was accidentally misapplied too heavy via rented equipment. Has an 80 day cutting window and I found a study that rats on this Dupont 4L lost weight after 30 days let alone all winter eating this hay. So yes, I totally agree that we and our animals and land are being poisoned each and every day.
@beckywatt5048
@beckywatt5048 4 года назад
2,4,D is the same way , and horses seem to love it , the Fullerton informer did a show , I believe with Sophia Smallstorm (?) On this same basic premise ,they are having expensive highly bred racing horses fall over dead at 5-7 yrs old at the racetracks and stables in Cal. . Glyphosate replaces Glysine , a building block protein in all mammals glxphxate is used on the oats to ripen them uniformly also , I don't about oats out of Canada as here in Michigan that's where most of them come from , I have been in and around farming my whole life an I have seen such a dramatic change in the attitude in farmers it makes me truley sad to see the infection that is in the colleges filter down into this once sacred profession.
@OutWestHomestead
@OutWestHomestead 4 года назад
How terrible.👍
@ARasputinaFan
@ARasputinaFan 2 года назад
My three TWH's had the same thing happen! I genuinely thought I was a bad horsekeeper and rehomed them; they deserved better than me and the goat had already died. I rehomed my senior with someone who lived "way out there", a recommendation from my vet, and he perked up and lived another 3 happy, healthy years until a respiratory infection took him. The other two I don't know what happened, guy never returned my phone calls. 😔 I wonder now what was in that hay my friend helped me buy, and I was buying alfalfa cubes from TSupply like I thought I was supposed to, but it seemed like the more he ate the skinnier he got.
@scottwilliams5196
@scottwilliams5196 4 года назад
Now I wonder about my rabbit feed. Perhaps even my rabbit manure isn't safe either.
@lauradell8548
@lauradell8548 4 года назад
Wondering the same...
@turtleworld3208
@turtleworld3208 3 года назад
The same
@Green.Country.Agroforestry
@Green.Country.Agroforestry 4 года назад
Aminopyralids are no joke - keeping them out of my soil is one of the reasons that I garden the way that I do. When they call an herbicide 'persistent', they ain't kidding. Those molecules will survive passing through a ruminant's digestive system, composting, and still interfere with any broad-leafed plant's ability to build new cells for years.
@donnacox1242
@donnacox1242 4 года назад
Thank you Danny and Wanda for all you do. Ya’ll are truly a blessing to all of us trying to grow a better life for ourselves and our families.
@MargretFerguson
@MargretFerguson Месяц назад
Hello! I started watching your videos and I have learned so much and I thank you ok! Pensacola Florida loves your knowledge
@702cadi
@702cadi 4 года назад
Wow so many things untold what else are we going to find out. Good job u did
@jewelgaither1504
@jewelgaither1504 4 года назад
Danny, thank you so much. This is what happened to our tomatoes last year! My husband had got a load of goat manure from a neighbor and spread it on our garden and flower beds. Our tomatoes looked just like yours. Our daughter-in-law kept saying something was in that manure, but we thought it was just too "hot" with nitrogen. Well....Katie Anne was right!
@beckywatt5048
@beckywatt5048 4 года назад
Tomatoes are a lot like corn , they almost can't get too much nitrogen , you just better have some tall stakes and a good pair of pruning shears , and less fruit .
@teresarodgers8233
@teresarodgers8233 4 года назад
Luke 8:17 17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
@donnanordbruch8288
@donnanordbruch8288 Год назад
shout it to the sky!! I just recently heard about grayzon and believe that a farm supply sold me a truckload full of compost soil with that in it. defiinitely noticed weird plants, curled, frizzled leaves, low or no production of veggies..wondered why for two straight years I couldn't grow squash!! after three years finally got some produce...only certified clean hay for me for gardening!!! isn't there a way to test the hay ?? thanks my friend, donna
@L_Martin
@L_Martin 5 месяцев назад
A way to test new hay would be to pick a “test crop” that you know will be effected if the hay is bad. Try to grow a young plant in the hay and grow a “control group” plant in regular compost and see if they grow the same. Charles Dowding has a video showing how he does this using broad beans. Once you see the 2 plants are growing fine, you can proceed to use the hay throughout your garden. This testing method is good because you only lose 1 broad bean plant if it turns out it is poison, and you save your garden.
@cowtv7190
@cowtv7190 4 года назад
Thank you so much for this ! People need to know, and what is it doing to your kid's and grand kids ? And the ground water for that matter ! Bless you Danny and Wanda !
@jpobrien5418
@jpobrien5418 6 месяцев назад
Grazon contamination can and will last for up too five years. I have a few contaminated raised beds from amending with tainted manure. Im still having problems after two plus years. The only thing you can do is get rid of as much of it as possible or grow cover crops in it for a few years which will help to leach it out of the soil. Legumes in particular can be effective. Beans.. im in southern Florida so im going to use the effected areas to grow peanuts. This grazon is a major problem for farmers, gardeners, and growers. We spend all this time, money and sweat equity trying to have clean organic food only to end up with tainted ground, loss of food, and for commercial growers a major loss of income. Most times the farmers or vendors will not disclose the fact that grazon and other herbicides have been used. Even if they were aware of it. I have switched over to only using what i can produce on site in my garden. Composting, vermiculture, feeding with fermented swamp juice from soaking weeds, biochar, and chop and drop to help condition and improve my soil. Permaculture techniques have been key for my gardens. I appreciate you making this video. This is a huge problem and every time I try to tell people about this they look at me like im nuts.
@pondholloworchards
@pondholloworchards 4 года назад
I just learned about this myself. Been soil building with it too😢
@lindajackson618
@lindajackson618 4 года назад
THANK YOU! For sharing this information. I’ve lost count of the number of ways greedy farmers are poisoning us. 40 to 50 years ago there was always weeds in our bales,of hay and our animals ate just fine and were healthy. Didn’t have all the cancers and other illnesses animals have today. That goes into our bodies too. Got to keep the elite’s chemotherapy mill going strong. Try to eat healthy organic food and find out that’s all lies too. I stopped feeling bad for farmers a long time ago. Stay well.
@jimbennett7248
@jimbennett7248 2 года назад
I'm not so certain the blame is on greedy farmers so much as the greedy manufacturer's and distributor's of these products. By and large, farmers attempt to use "best practices " to grow their crops, as prescribed by the "experts ".
@nancyfahey7518
@nancyfahey7518 4 года назад
Who makes grazon? Monsanto/ Bayer? David the Good youtube is spreading the word too. I'll send him this link with your research. Thank you.
@debbiebevis3806
@debbiebevis3806 4 года назад
I am so frustrated with the way that our farmers and the Dept of Agriculture are killing us. I am a cancer survivor and I don’t want all of these chemicals in every thing I eat and the water I drink. These people know what they are doing to us and they don’t care because it is all about the almighty dollar. I am convinced that the Black Cow manure is the reason that my tomato leaves curled and became almost leathery feeling. I am trying so hard to grow organic but between the chemicals in everything we buy and fighting the pests and powdery mildew I feel defeated. The people that make these chemicals have families too, are they not concerned. What are we going to do Danny. There is so much negative stuff going on in our world today, it is hard to even enjoy life sometimes.
@DeepSouthHomestead
@DeepSouthHomestead 4 года назад
We have to spend time looking for clean stuff it's there.
@ShreejiFine
@ShreejiFine 4 года назад
passive pesticides also impact organic compost...Thanks for best information...
@TheOrganiclady
@TheOrganiclady 4 года назад
I bought Standlee Timothy Grass and I was planning to use in my garden/compost. How can I find out if it has been treated with a herbicide? Thanks for an answer. Great video. I have subscribed.
@JipseeGirl
@JipseeGirl 3 года назад
So if everything is contaminated, what is a person to do?? I'm just a single old lady who is not an experienced gardener by any means. This just seems so overwhelming when you have to worry about things at such a intricate level!
@AaricHale
@AaricHale 4 года назад
I been hearing about this for several years now . I knew right away you was going to say the hay .That's why I just like using leaves in the fall to make compost . My problem has been with drift from the farmer beside me . Last year he burnt down my turnips and winter squash with drift into my garden . They were burnt down in a couple of days after he sprayed .
@shez4199
@shez4199 3 часа назад
This just happened to me here in Australia. Destroyed half my veggie patch. Its heartbreaking.😢
@j.p.9189
@j.p.9189 4 года назад
WoW!.This really blew my mind. No wonder there are so many cancers .Something so innocuous as hay could potentially be the hidden component that begins a death warrant. Thank you so much for educating me.
@scottwilliams5196
@scottwilliams5196 4 года назад
Ugh, that explains my squash and Danny corn. I work so hard to get further behind. Thanks for the info Danny.
@NS-pf2zc
@NS-pf2zc 4 года назад
Those chemicals only hurt your broadleaf plants. Corn is a grass, so it should be ok. Sorry about your squash!
@beebob1279
@beebob1279 3 года назад
I don't know anyone who reads the instructions with basic chemical use on yards. I know when the neighbors are spraying for weeds because the neighborhood smells like weed killer
@loravaughn2910
@loravaughn2910 4 года назад
I understand what you are saying about the hay, but could there be any problems with using our own chicken manure. Could Grazon be used on anything that is in chicken feed?
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 3 года назад
What's not in this video is that none of these persistent herbicides are labeled for use on crops, including hay. Under Federal law using herbicide in a manner inconsistent with its labeling is illegal. If you buy hay and it's carrying persistent herbicide, the person who sold it to you has committed a Federal offense. A few people get busted for it and it will stop.
@sandyd.2513
@sandyd.2513 4 года назад
And then people wonder why we have so much cancer , and other diseases that were rare in my grandparents day.And Monsanto admits that 2 4 D causes cancer. But they have not taken it off the shelves.
@janpenland3686
@janpenland3686 4 года назад
Thanks Danny. I'm lucky in that my feed store buys hay locally from a farm that doesn't spray their hay. The feed store also sells non modified grains. He said that if he has a choice he won't sell anything that he won't feed to his own livestock.Much Love
@onedazinn998
@onedazinn998 4 года назад
This was so important thanks for posting. I had trouble at my first farm finding organic anything. I got lucky with my first straw bed garden that the farmer didn't spray the straw I bought. Even though we lived in an Amish strong community area, it is hard as heck to convince multi-generation farmers that they should stop spraying their crops. They just don't think about the cycle of contamination. I was the only customer who bought the Amish non-gmo organic feed at the mill. >.< If we can't even use spent hay or straw in our gardens or feed our livestock...we really have to get really focused on growing our own fodder and need to research more. Most people don't have the land & equipment for haying...and if I have to do it it will be by scything, old fashion stacks & less animals to feed.
@boobear6256
@boobear6256 4 года назад
I have a few roosters,my few girls mostly died,i had given them compacted hay,well there was plastic in it,they would bring us the strands, no lie
@jeas4980
@jeas4980 4 года назад
I don't have livestock that eats hay... but I do use straw in my garden. So far, so good. I buy Earthgrow Organic Compost Manure... seems to be a great product. But I'm considering raising rabbits for their manure and doing earthworm compost...thanks for the heads up because now I know I'll have to produce their feed as well. You probably saved my soil. 🙏💚
@nic9042
@nic9042 4 года назад
...I thought I was the only person in this world who back tracked all these details and put that much deep thought into every one those details!! My oh my... my new favorite channel!!! My uncle bails hay! I use to drive the truck while he and my brother would throw it. I cant wait to ask him how he goes about this!! You should write a book!! I tell my kids all the time - every generation before you is the best tool in your tool box! - Wealth of knowledge and experience- knowledge is power and you would be crazy not to utilize those generation while you still can!! I just recently found your channel. - Time to play catch up!
@CedarCreekHomestead
@CedarCreekHomestead 4 года назад
We did use grazon and remedy on our pasture. It kills the good grass like clover and rye. We stopped using it, Clover is great for our pasture and has come back good this year. Thanks for the information, God Bless!
@DeepSouthHomestead
@DeepSouthHomestead 4 года назад
So glad to hear that you quit using it. The land will heal in time.
@jeffsullivan3362
@jeffsullivan3362 4 года назад
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm just a backyard hobby gardener but it's so depressing to do everything you can to do it right but sometimes plants die...and it's not my fault. Even a veteran farmer such as yourself gets burned. I was just about to stop composting my yard and garden waste. it is a lot of work but well worth it I guess. Thank you again for sharing.
@johnndavis7647
@johnndavis7647 3 года назад
How do I know if the chicken feed and rabbit feed have ingredients in them that have been treated with weed killers?
@myracassel
@myracassel 4 года назад
Thank You for what you have done for All of us. Thank You I passed it on. And joined you today after I see how you take care of you’re home. Thank you.
@kinflorida579
@kinflorida579 4 года назад
Sounds like a class action suit to me! They need to stop using that product /poison on that hay..
@geoffoutdoors
@geoffoutdoors 4 года назад
Amazing. Yet...not surprised. I tell folks all the time there's no such thing as "organic coffee" in the U.S. ... it all gets fumigated when entering port for import. I still roast my own though and enjoy it, but it is indeed very disheartening. Thanks for sharing Danny! Great info for all!
@chucklively9633
@chucklively9633 4 года назад
Hi, you mentioned the leaves were curling up not down. I have a few tomato plants that the stems that the leaves are growing on are curling down what do you think the problem is with them curling down? Thanks and I enjoy your videos
@GrammaRosesHomestead
@GrammaRosesHomestead 4 года назад
Thank you for this! Just the other day my mail man told me he was getting ready to cut his hay. So, I showed him my back field that used to be a horse pasture and asked him if he knew anyone who needed another place to cut hay. He could have the hay, and I could walk back to my pond without getting chiggers all over me! He told me I should get someone to bush hog it and then spray it before cutting the hay. Now I know what he was talking about! Now I know what he's using on his 60 acres of hay! edit to add: I just looked up Grazon and found this at the bottom of the discription! "Hay from grass treated with GrazonNext HL within the preceding 18-months can only be used on the farm or ranch where the product is applied unless allowed by supplemental label". From what you've researched and discovered, it sounds like nobody is paying attention to that warning.
@DeepSouthHomestead
@DeepSouthHomestead 4 года назад
Yes your right they don't want people to know.
@lbarnes8207
@lbarnes8207 4 года назад
mow that field a couple of times, bale it and sell it to those in your area who do not want contaminated hay. run you an add in the organic farmers newsletters/websites in your area. if that takes off then hunt you up a few more fields that have not been sprayed. you would be amazed how many 5 acre plus fields you can find and use that people own but pay to just get them mowed once a year. most will let you cut hay off of it so they don't have to pay to get it cut. i smell a business opportunity!😊
@dianebailey7868
@dianebailey7868 4 года назад
I wish these farmers would wake up and realize this is why cancer and other diseases are so rampant!
@stanleypennock2118
@stanleypennock2118 4 года назад
Most farmers don't realize they are putting their own families and ours at risk! They have trusted the sprays that huge, rich chemical companies have led them to believe are safe. Chemical companies that our federal government are supposed to oversee! In a era where the farmer bares the production costs, but the middle man make the bulk of the profits from the farmers crops, farmers have to produce in larger quantities than ever before, so keep in mind that in some ways the farmers are the victim as well.
@goinscottwhere
@goinscottwhere 3 года назад
Now you just need to show you're proof and collect you're nobel prize
@dianebailey7868
@dianebailey7868 3 года назад
@@goinscottwhere Use your own brain cells and stop depending on everyone else to think for you or just eat up and we will see what happens! I don't need their nobel prize!
@melisagraham587
@melisagraham587 4 года назад
When I contacted the representative for North Alabama from corteva, a dowdupont company, I learned that it’s not only the manure that’s a problem but I couldn’t move my vegetable garden or plant fruit trees on my own land because it had been sprayed with grazon by the guy who cuts hay from it. She told me it would take 3-7 years depending on how fast it percolates out of the soil. In other words, drains away into our water table. I found out about this product from a friend who used her own cow manure in a garden bed of tomatoes and peppers. For some reason her yellow squash wasn’t killed. She was told wait three years and try it again. In my opinion, grazon is a scourge second only to roundup. My two cents worth.
@rosea830
@rosea830 4 года назад
We just have an acre here. With what's going on we're tilling a few more plots and I was thinking just this morning that some hay might really be helpful... Thank you for this video.
@paulasnatural
@paulasnatural 4 года назад
Thank you Danny.Great video! I used hay many years ago for mulch...then it occured to me that it most likely isn't organic and stopped using it. Still using plain cardboard over winter to protect raised beds under dried grass and leaves. Probably not the best but worms love it. 😊 God bless 💕ps...all alfalfa is now GMO. Monsanto has the patent.
@thefishfin-atic7106
@thefishfin-atic7106 6 месяцев назад
I had no idea how bad this problem is! Thank-you for sharing this with us!!!!
@molliejonte2732
@molliejonte2732 4 года назад
Have a question. Do they use the Grazon on wheat? I use straw for mulch.
@DeepSouthHomestead
@DeepSouthHomestead 4 года назад
Just downloaded the PDF file for grazon and it's labled for use on wheat and corn.
@OleensEmbroidery
@OleensEmbroidery 2 года назад
Thanks for making this video. I need to spread this information. I'm hoping they are already aware as I am just seeing this 2 years later.
@melissasprinkel1670
@melissasprinkel1670 3 года назад
Most farmers don’t care it’s all about money
@FrontYardGardener
@FrontYardGardener 4 года назад
Just 30 miles North of y'all in Purvis, we also have experienced the curled leaves. Thanks for a possible explanation!
@dejayblair7571
@dejayblair7571 4 года назад
I have hay with no spray, I’m 2hrs north of Danny and Wanda.
@DeepSouthHomestead
@DeepSouthHomestead 4 года назад
Thanks for posting.
@growingtexas1772
@growingtexas1772 4 года назад
The aminopyralids are getting into lots of stuff. Not only hay, but store bought compost & potting soil too. I'm just waiting for it to show up in our feed we give our animals. If that happens, we won't be able to use the manure for gardening at all. Hopefully you'll be able to sell your hay to someone who doesn't mind the aminopyralids.
@jjo5375
@jjo5375 4 года назад
WOW! Chemicals!!! I hope many people are helped by your heads-up here! God bless you for telling people! QUESTION: WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR YOUR FARM TO PRODUCE THE HAY YOU NEED FOR THE ANIMALS, DANNY?
@DeepSouthHomestead
@DeepSouthHomestead 4 года назад
No I don't have enough land.
@ilovecharleston2
@ilovecharleston2 4 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing this. Organic hay impossible? Enough of a DEMAND makes anything possible. ..... "What's in the grass?" Fantastic question!
@m.t.pockets448
@m.t.pockets448 4 года назад
Thank you Danny for your diligents, we are pretty new to gardening and make enough mistakes without unforeseen situations like you have uncovered. We just added steer manure compost to our little greenhouse and garden patch purchased from a box store so we have no clue what could be in it, sad 😞 when we believe in our hearts we are doing a good thing for our soil so we can produce nutrient dense food to fuel our bodies only to find out that we may have just messed things up. Thank you again from way up north, in North Pole Alaska, love 💕 your videos.
@JubeeBijou
@JubeeBijou 2 года назад
Did your garden end up being ok?
@samgalbraith6411
@samgalbraith6411 4 года назад
Wowwww! Unreal. Now I know why my plants look like this. I’m shocked!
@azzzonline
@azzzonline 4 года назад
One year I got some inexpensive cow manure for my home garden, omg omg that year I had such a weed problem, so bad I couldn't grow much food. Now I ask a bucket load of questions before I get compost.
@jawjagrrl
@jawjagrrl 4 года назад
We have about 40 acres dedicated to hay. It is sprayed with NOTHING. timing of the cut is the key for weed control. We have an arrangement with a local fellow with cows that he can come and cut, bale, etc., and just have it as we don't have livestock here. Saves us the time and fuel to cut all that ourselves. If chemical-free hay is really that rare, perhaps we need to rethink the arrangement.
@christineoffthegrid6373
@christineoffthegrid6373 3 года назад
Thankfully I have my own organic hay. However, we get a friend to cut it and last year he wanted to put fertilizer on it. I don't think it made any difference to the quality, but farmers are addicted to putting things on crops! So frustrating!
@schooldance6057
@schooldance6057 9 месяцев назад
Do you know which fertilizer was used?
@mypseudorealitymaybenot7845
@mypseudorealitymaybenot7845 4 года назад
All I can say is thank goodness I have my own hay baled on 7 acres in shares by a neighboring farmer. And yes there are some weeds in it... don't really care. I'm like you Danny about feeding weeds, many weeds actually get consumed. My horse is smart enough not to eat it if noxious. She actually loves brambles and even thistles if baled young and tender, although everyone will tell you she shouldn't be allow to eat them. What I think is the weeds provide a different nutritional profile than the grasses, different minerals pulled from the soil. There is also dandelions and narrow leaf plantain which are edible for most animals. About 85% forage grass and clover and 15% assorted 'weeds' are just fine in my book. And yup hay and manure goes on the garden worry free. I have clay soil and actually want some of those deep rooted weeds to put nutrients to the top soil. Nettle are rarely eaten when green but let them dry, after fall frost or in hay and my horses always cleaned them up. Nettles will be eaten green if your animals are ill, they know when they need to eat medicinals, but they are rarely available for free choice grazing. All weeds are not bad. But I also walk the field once in the spring and hack down the few harmful weeds I see, helps keep them in check. BUT I wonder if I advertise my excess hay for sale as grazon free or non-sprayed if I can get a better price for it from an informed customer, hmmmm.
@wmluna381
@wmluna381 4 года назад
I'd pay extra for the information and your certain efforts. 👍
@MichelleM0704
@MichelleM0704 4 года назад
Scott Head @ Black Gumbo had the same problem last year, kinda. He used tainted hay as mulch & it took out many plants. If you're interested, check it his play list to see what he did to correct it. I think he grew dicots. I can't remember for sure.
@danorley5575
@danorley5575 4 года назад
Thank you this is important information for all. To many people are worried about their self and don't care about others but they sure will pretend they do. Happy I found your channel .
@thymetosow4972
@thymetosow4972 4 года назад
Off topic, but this storm that is forming in the gulf is deeply concerning. I live in central LA, 50 miles from the coast. It appears that MS, LA will get the worst of the winds and rain. I will be shutting my garden down and removing all structures including cattle panels that will become lethal weapons with strong winds. Luckily, I have been blessed with a great harvest so far and have canned enough vegetables and fruit to sustain us for a couple of years. Would appreciate your prayers at this time.
@melissacee4574
@melissacee4574 4 года назад
thank you Danny - I have been raging about the poison put into our food chain and all I get is eye rolls from everyone. yep. know where your food comes from and what went into all of it from seed/compost/harvest to table. stay safe
@jackieroberts6316
@jackieroberts6316 4 года назад
Thank you. I lost my 30 year old pony recently and have about 30 square bales that I was planning to mulch with. Think I will leave it for now.
@lostnfoundinchrist4812
@lostnfoundinchrist4812 4 года назад
well it got me too, all my potatoes are crap now, dairy goats are eating sprayed hay, sooo milk will be crap, it will be hard to find hay, what to do..? need help in SC.
@DeepSouthHomestead
@DeepSouthHomestead 4 года назад
Its hard to find good hay but it's there look for small farmers.
@TheSHOP411
@TheSHOP411 4 года назад
I listened to this video on my way to work this morning. I think this is why I have been in such a foul mood all day. My compost pile is full up with hay from the chicken coop run. I thought I was building some of the best soil on the planet and now this. Dammit, how many things have to be against us. Thanks for doing the research on this. I would have never expected the chemicals on the hay to be a problem.
@cindisprock7993
@cindisprock7993 4 года назад
Thank you. I always learn so much from you.
@connieblasingame7996
@connieblasingame7996 4 года назад
Thank you for your research and using your video to inform the public....We just have a small garden, but have been aware of this chemical in hay for a couple of years....We mulch with leaves and shavings and grass clippings from our organic acreage.... Larry & Connie at Scoot's Organic Eggs
@rebeccalay119
@rebeccalay119 4 года назад
Wonder if this applies to straw as well? Over the winter I turned many of my beds into growing rye grass which I cut out in early spring but unfortunately it was not enough for all the beds.
@irissmith1663
@irissmith1663 4 года назад
And I thought it was me.
@cpenn9304
@cpenn9304 4 года назад
I found out about grazon before using it and warned my neighbors.I didn’t use it. Some of them did and learned the hard way.I recently warned a neighbor not to use another neighbors manure because he had used grazon 3 years before.It killed his tomatoes.18 months is not enough for it to be gone.
@jeffriffel4364
@jeffriffel4364 4 года назад
Thanks Danny, yeah we've been getting screwed for sometime. My son started a mustache when he was 12 I knew it was all the hormones given to our food.
@myrurallife_official
@myrurallife_official 4 года назад
Some studies show the herbicides stay in compost even up to 5 years, but mostly gone in about 2. If you have extra garden plots, I would spread it and plant and mow cover crops like rye, mustard (it likely wont grow well, but might survive) and Sudan grass for at least 2 years to clean and build the soil.
@ameeraljadie1282
@ameeraljadie1282 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the information. I appreciate your time in educating others. I am gardening organically and I don't use herbicides or pesticides because I know they impact the environment very badly.
@ggsfarm1041
@ggsfarm1041 4 года назад
This same thing happened to me this year! My tomato leaves also turned up, then died. Heart broken.
@allthingselderly
@allthingselderly 4 года назад
I enjoy watching your videos very much. Thank you. Keep prepping guys. Get all your supplies now.
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