Is Z-42 Worth Getting In 2024? 

Yeah. I wanna try a Lütjens Daring. Got Lütjens and Z42 is my best bet for german ships, since I dislike the BBs and CVs. CAs (=Hindi) is OK but you can't utilize all of Lütjens abilities on it. So, in general, the idea is to compensate the loss of Healings in comparison to Daring by getting Lütjens and exploit the larger Hydro and faster speed combined with Reload Boost. ^^

How do you get Steel man ?

@@terkbro1087clan battles, ranked battles, some in battle pass and dockyards. Mainly clans and ranked though

Playing against bad players then. Anyone decent should know about that 6km hydro and prepare accordingly.

z-42 has AP arming threshold of 18mm whereas z-52 has 21mm. Most DD hulls are 19mm, so z-42 has much better AP performance against destroyers, which is mostly the entire gimmick behind hydro + smoke + crazy AP dpm on DDs. You'll get overpens mostly in a z-52 if the enemy isn't angled perfectly for you, so your dpm against destroyers is much worse. The lower arming threshold also helps with getting full-pen on cruiser and battleship superstructures. It's not always about higher pen.

It can be hard to compare ships purely by stats. That's why videos like this are interesting. I got Leone as a trashbote because the stats were so bad. It's turned out to be really capable.

@@striderpianoI didn't take a look to the threshold so far. I will do some tests in a private training room with Akizuki, Fenyang, Schultz and Z-46 and see how fast AP can kill other DDs. Without improved pen-angles like Fenyang and Schultz I absolutely ignored the AP ammo of DD. Thanks for opening my eyes

Who the hell cares about better torps, DD influence is mostly about who can outtrade who on guns, taking concealment into consideration. Z-42 hardly cares about slightly lower concealment because of the Daring playstyle it can go for.

fenyang has the best ap for its tier and short fuse improved angles, its awesome, but its useless trying to use ap on a dd running at you, so the shitty he on 42 is pretty lame

THen again, if we are going to go AP vs larger ships, why are we running Z-42 (a cap contester) in the first place.

Now imagine if Z-52 got reduced AP fuse treshhold or improved pen angles to make it more relevant. 52 unfortunately doesn't really have the firepower to abuse the hydro as much combined with the pretty mediocre concealment.

Yes they are shima levels of anemic... 134.8k shima dpm,142k z52

@@MarcusKuann And shima at least has better shell travel time and higher alpha to take pot shots with.

@@samuelhakansson6680 Z52 has better travel time,still shit guns.

@@MarcusKuann yes but that generally doesn't matter for the ranges you want to engage at for both of these DDs (around 6km, aka short range fights). Z-52 does long range HE farming better, but that is generally not a good role for these two particular German DDs anyway.

Fenyang literally has stock HE that gets shattered by DD armour. You have to use 3 captain points just to make her playable to the standard of any other DD. She's dog water. Z-42 is actually competitive enough that you could use her in CBs even. Though I do think they should restore her reload to the pre-nerf test amount it used to be (about 10% higher) and stop balancing things assuming people have the Lego commanders for them.

​@@MattH88S You clearly don't understand either ship. First, Fenyang has powerful Armor Piercing with improved penetration angles so it obliterates destroyers; you're not supposed to use High Explosive, or the Inertia Fuse for High Explosive skill. Second, Z-42 is not competitive at all, and you could not use it in Clan Battles at all, specifically because the concealment-to-Hydroacoustic Search range was nerfed and tie firepower was nerfed.

I'd take a 6KM hydro any day. Fenyang gets ultra Deep water and reload booster for torps and worse conceal, how is that better than an hydro?

​@@MattH88Sinstead Z-42, Daring better choice than her or just take Z-52 if you love german. Also in CB, i never met Z-42 in Storm or above, mostly they use Smaland/Marceau + any long smoke DD, Kleber leg mod, YY radar or Solo Smaland

@@dzello I own both Fenyang and Z-42, I am quite familiar with them, and Fenyang is dog shit lol. It's HE is literally unusable because it only pens 17mm and shatters on most DD armour, so if you angle to her she does no damage. If you take IFHE you've lost 3 captains points just to make her HE usable, but now it's fire chance sucks. She is clunky and turns like a brick, she doesn't have hydro/radar or any useful utility. She's one of the worst ships in the game. She's a worse Akizuki in every way. Z-42 is absolutely a competitive pick once busted Smalands and Klebers/Marceaus start getting inevitably banned. She's arguably the best cap contester in the game at that DD tier.

Z-42 is almost inarguably the best cap contester in the game. The only thing she's genuinely got to be scared of is Smaland/Gdansk, but she will absolutely ruin every other DD. Having Lutjens on her for the free heal to make her a bit tankier and the added DPM is even nicer. Being broadside isn't even a huge issue because you should be broadside when entering caps anyways so you can back up if need be if a Vampire II or Sherman is coming at you, which you then proceed to smash outside their hydro range, as you do every other non-Radar DD.

@@MattH88S You should not be broadside entering caps (good way to get torped); you should be tail-in.

@@EvoraGT430 It's a Z-42 with 6km hydro.... if you take torps you really fucked up.

WG and their bullcrap theory of bringing old world war differences to a game...just look at italy, Germany and japan .then look at ussr whos 95% navy didn't even exist even on god damn paper just wtf is this game lek

IFHE? On a German DD? I m not sure if its worth, German ships have a better HE Pen

@@markushuber214 True that German ships have better HE pen, I just run IFHE on mine to ensure the damage. In the Z-42 you mostly run AP anyway.

Well if they removed the reload nerf on it i would be really interested in getting it cause of smoke hydro gimmick in order to secure caps more easily but WG just does not like Germany for reasons that all players know and its in a weird spot currently ..if they had to nerf it then atleast give it out for coal instead of steel

He cherry picked his games for sure. I own this, and you almost never get to farm broadside DDs like that consistently.

Sort of yes, Z-35 gets the lower tier German Cruiser hydro so 5.5km ship detect, so longer range than most hydro paired with short burst smoke.

Z-44 is torpedoes, Z-42 is guns. The ships are different in detail, but they have fundamentally different play styles.

Unfortunately the gameplay of subs is so bad and in most cases they make so few dmg that most games have none players with subs in the teams

@@markushuber214 yeah, WG nerfed them into oblivion

This! The Z-52 is my most played DD. I love it but it lacks so much against other DD's unless you catch them with smoke and hydro. The Z-42 can go toe to toe with most of them. Against a Sherman I would run in my Z-52 while I usually have a good chance of killing one in the 42. You will lose HP but you will in most cases kill them.

I thought you said you quitted

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There is literally 4 videos with worcester😅😅😅.

​@@luukvst1032he got convinced otherwise

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