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IS ZZZ GOOD NOW? | Zenless Zone Zero CBT3 Review 

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I've compiled all my thoughts in a review video. It's long yes, because there is a lot to talk about.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:36 - Banners / Pity / Selector
02:40 - Bangboo System
03:05 - 5 star character selector
04:30 - Agent/Character panel
05:09 - Combat Simulation
06:00 - Equipment
06:15 - Music CD Store System
07:00 - W Engine
07:56 - TV System
08:26 - Why the TV feels bad
10:48 - Hollow Zero
11:40 - Story TV roleplay
14:05 - Shiyu Defense
14:36 - Combat
17:01 - Early absence of elemental/anomaly gameplay
19:00 - Multiplayer Boss Fight / Reckless Challenge
21:03 - Overal Income concerns
24:00 - What i want
24:15 - X2 TV Speed QoL
25:32 - Outro
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@Jakazin
@Jakazin 2 месяца назад
I've been told the weekly npc is not present in this cbt3 version, so there are no weeklies available. Maybe i get it later on chapter 3? kinda weird it'd work like that, but we'll see.
@no1caers
@no1caers 2 месяца назад
4:58 5:58 20:56 22:48 the most important parts of the video imo
@StormyDMG
@StormyDMG 2 месяца назад
Truly, the most crucial parts indeed
@koalabro6118
@koalabro6118 2 месяца назад
@@StormyDMG I was trying to parse what he was saying as it seemed like he was mid-thought for each timestamp... Then I realized that the timestamps are for the character in the background. I have watched a total of 2 minutes of this video and I still don't know what this game is or if it's good lol.
@Dominichunter5
@Dominichunter5 2 месяца назад
8:25 i think you nailed it here. Even just watching people's gameplay, the constant back-and-forth created by the TV exploration system keeps the game from getting into a good groove.
@v1nzzzz1
@v1nzzzz1 Месяц назад
very informative, thanks
@thepeanutter9972
@thepeanutter9972 29 дней назад
This game just feels so bare minimum compared to Hoyoverse's other games. Only MC in the open world and using TVs instead of moving around open areas like HSR's simulated universe.
@stareck2374
@stareck2374 2 месяца назад
How much do you get from dailies ?
@TheDarknessDelmin
@TheDarknessDelmin 2 месяца назад
pretty sure they do like genshin and HSR. 60 tape for the pulls
@daniel336600
@daniel336600 2 месяца назад
Think tv is ok but need a bit of a skip but if it is not at the end game I’m fine with it and hope they can make it a bit fun and just have it to tell stories but more combat would be better
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 2 месяца назад
Tv has a 2x skip basicly takes you straight to next batle
@arifasatria7704
@arifasatria7704 2 месяца назад
TV is almost non existent after ch 1 i heard, it will be combat after combat after combat
@Sol1tude101
@Sol1tude101 2 месяца назад
Do they not have weekly missions?
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 2 месяца назад
It does have weekly misions
@Sol1tude101
@Sol1tude101 2 месяца назад
@@joshbrosh6626 Do you know how much they give? Last time I saw it gave a 10 pull per week? Or am I high🤣
@joshbrosh6626
@joshbrosh6626 2 месяца назад
@@Sol1tude101 i dont really know how much it gives I just saw the weeklies on a stream It would be really nice if they give 10 pulls per week
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
@@Sol1tude101 i think ur talking about event-login.
@GeneralSmolderas
@GeneralSmolderas 2 месяца назад
​@@joshbrosh662610 pulls from weeklies in a hoyoverse game? Funniest shit I've ever read dawg. I'm expecting around 200 film/primos/jades
@thatssocloudyazia4871
@thatssocloudyazia4871 2 месяца назад
I wouldnt mind chest and the ability to check trashcans for random loot i feel why not have little secrets like that😢
@roomer8381
@roomer8381 Месяц назад
Bc you already have that in genshin and star rail. They want to bring new players in
@mwangwo
@mwangwo 3 дня назад
the weapon banner is like hsr so 75/25
@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters
@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters 14 дней назад
This game is such a missed opportunity. I was really looking forward to it since the beginning, but the TVs and Minigames killed all my hype. Decent combat, beautiful animation, cool characters with personality. But they keep trying to make "Mini-games: The videogame - Part 2. Television Boogaloo". They could have made a better version of Honkai 3rd that solves all of its problems. But instead are double dipping on them. And people who defend it say it as if the game was about the TVs. All the official gameplay shows combat. All the character trailers are about combat. They market it as a Hack n Slash game with some minigames. Gacha games first atractive are characters. But it's like they don't want you to enjoy the characters.
@doublevalentine5970
@doublevalentine5970 2 месяца назад
The tvs reminds me of simulated universe in honkai star rail and that my favorite content
@Jakazin
@Jakazin 2 месяца назад
Tv in hollow zero is basically simulated universe. And those are fun
@doublevalentine5970
@doublevalentine5970 2 месяца назад
From playing it all day every day and in all three modes I can say simulated aslo does suffer from the many load screens from traversing each path but they should have did it like ypu said and ease the player into like they did in hsr.
@ericduvalle5648
@ericduvalle5648 2 месяца назад
Silk died for this
@CoFF3e_Man
@CoFF3e_Man 2 месяца назад
Now, the BIG question is Can they reach the same player satisfaction on fights, like what PGR did? I'm looking forward to this game but I hope that they can compete with other ARPGs like HI3, PGR, Aether Gazer, and soon DNA
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
>Can they reach the same player satisfaction on fights, like what PGR did? --- They don't need to do this if they don't want to be at the PGR popularity level. In addition, PGR combat system is not interesting outside of boss battles. That's why people don't post such content. >I'm looking forward to this game but I hope that they can compete with other ARPGs like HI3, PGR, Aether Gazer, and soon DNA --- They will be able to compete without any problems. They have budgets, unlike the games you indicated. Isn't DNA not openworld? I just don't know.
@CoFF3e_Man
@CoFF3e_Man 2 месяца назад
@@broccoli5176 DNA is an ARPG that is like a semi-open world and the reason why PGR is not that famous is because of their sh*t marketing and 1 year gap between Global and CN. If PGR was marketed well it would've been a proper competition for HI3, making both games improve for the better.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
​@@CoFF3e_Man But in the end they didn't do it. The problem is not even the popularity of PGR, but the fact that, as I said, it is not very interesting outside of boss fights. Literally more boring than Zenless in this regard. Because all you have is a bunch of yapping cutscenes and a fight that takes place in less than a minute. Basically everything you do: Spend energy > loading > Waiting or skipping story yapping > kill enemies in seconds > loading back to menu > repeat it again. From this point of view, ZZZ looks more interesting and you, at least, do not spend energy on literally every action. Although it used to be so, I do not argue. It's good that they listened. btw, didn't know that DNA is a semi-open world. Ty for info
@viao4121
@viao4121 2 месяца назад
@@broccoli5176 actually no, PGR have a lot of content outside the boss fight like event, Norman war or even guild mode, dorm thing... The thing is PGR dont marketing well and the content is not efficient to try for long time period (not difficult or something, it just grindy and only about combat thing). Just a case if PGR have a lot of content creator, or small cc of PGR get recognize, you will see PGR has a enough content to try each patch not only boss fight.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
@@viao4121 No, I know that in such games there is content besides boss battles. I'm rather saying that it's mostly boss battles that allow PGR to stand out from the rest of the games of this genre on mobile.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
People are yapping about the TV like there's nothing in other ARPGs on phones that distracts from the fighting. Another proof that 90% of people who hype about PGR and their developers - have not even played their game. People saying bs about ZZZ for having the same problems as other games in the ARPG genre. Take HI3 or PGR as an example - in both of these games you have a few minutes of battles, after which you go back to the menu (loading), do some things, then spend your energy and go back into battle (another loading) which will only last a few minutes. And over and over again. I think they were just trying to add something new (tvs) to a game of this genre. Have people like you ever played ARPGs on phones? They literally all have similar problems. Constant interruptions of the tempo, a lot of useless yapping in the plot. A bad start. I've seen it so many times that I'm already used to it. Maybe this is some kind of curse of the genre on phones, I do not know.
@Jakazin
@Jakazin 2 месяца назад
I should've specified this video and my opinion only refer to the pc experience. i never/dont like/never will play games on phone because i find it "too small". Maybe you get accustomed to all of this downtime if you play games on phone. It might not be as annoying for you then, which is... good? i think?
@Asaki9013
@Asaki9013 2 месяца назад
I think it's good that they want to add something new, and besides, the game will be more for casual players than for hardcore players, although it's still better than in Genshin, where the combat is practically brainless. You shouldn't worry so much, because people these days like comparisons and the feeling that they are playing the best game. Just ignore them and have fun.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
@@Jakazin I just want to say that most likely hoyo decided to make something like a "modern" ARPG project like Hi3/PGR/Aether Gazer with a high budget, but at the same time not very far from typical ARPGs on phones. Yes, it may seem easier than some representatives of the genre (for example, it's easy to get lost in PGR effects using modern characters xd) - but it seems to me that they specifically want to occupy this niche. Since HI3rd no longer brings in a lot of money and is not a "top" offer on the ARPG mobile-market. I don't want to offend anyone or anything like that. I just want to convey that they most likely compromised with this TV system. At least now you can play a little more than just login for 10 minutes, spending all your energy on several 2-minute stages and exit.
@Jakazin
@Jakazin 2 месяца назад
@@broccoli5176 Yeah that might be the case. I just think they could still improve the tv system further.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
@@Jakazin I think they will change something else before the release. They have about a month or two (considering that they are probably doing something with the release client right during the current CBT) before the release. Judging by the final Genshin and HSR CBT, the game will be released in 30-40 days after the end of the final cbt. And, apparently, these TVs have something like a modular system, so they don't have to spend too much time changing or deleting them. If I understand correctly from what has changed since CBT2.
@Takamitzu
@Takamitzu 28 дней назад
IDK but all the Interface and UI looks pretty Cheap to me not like a 2024 Game Compare to HSR the game looks behind
@Jakazin
@Jakazin 28 дней назад
I get what you mean but maybe it's just a style choice
@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters
@Mr.MasterOfTheMonsters 14 дней назад
Da Wei is obsessed with Arcade games. They tried to go with that style for the interface, but it doesn't really look as good as the good ol´ arcades.
@wllmjhuang
@wllmjhuang Месяц назад
From what I've knew about this game was they took the inspiration from: Final Fantasy VII Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance Devil May Cry Borderlands Persona 5 Yakuza On the other hand, some of those characters were took the inspiration from DC Universe, and other video game characters such as: Billy Kid from Red Hood Anby from Raiden (MGRR) Nekomiya Mana from Catwoman Lycaon from Hworang(Tekken) Bangboo from Minicons(Transformers) + Fall Guys Zhu Yuan (future character) from Bloodsport (Suicide Squad)
@yeumu
@yeumu 5 дней назад
I don't understand this game bruh
@KyHeartWill
@KyHeartWill 2 месяца назад
It's very similar to aether gazer. Ngl I'm not coping. Play AG, it's same with small twist in combat tech.
@Lunair
@Lunair Месяц назад
People complain about the tv system... Honestly I love the tv part which adds a lot of variety. The Golden week hollow exploration for example is really a treat.
@user-zf1bb5pe8w
@user-zf1bb5pe8w 2 месяца назад
300pulls selector 😂😂😂
@Zactly91
@Zactly91 2 месяца назад
Not enough booba Jaka 😢 game bad
@Jakazin
@Jakazin 2 месяца назад
cuz you havent seen the dreams
@hammeredch
@hammeredch 2 месяца назад
​@@Jakazin he was right. Just giv back nicole's booba and sum players will forget WuWa. Don't take this seriously since you might not care about this but for people who got scammed we take it serious.
@keidara8327
@keidara8327 2 месяца назад
I'm a big HSR fan, but why does this game feels like meh, and Wuthering Waves is more enticing? Is it just me or somebody else is in the same boat :/
@shubnee-chan5661
@shubnee-chan5661 2 месяца назад
History repeats itself, WW are a major step up for Kuro Game where they start out making stage-based hack-and-slash game (PGR) and made open world title on their next just like Mihoyo's HI3rd and Genshin.
@Blackwolf-gr6ch
@Blackwolf-gr6ch 2 месяца назад
100% agreed, may other games did this formula better, pgr, shitty aether gazer and even hoyo's own hi3
@Blackwolf-gr6ch
@Blackwolf-gr6ch 2 месяца назад
@@samseyour6395 ??? learn to write at least, not sure if you trying to be funny or just simply messed up
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
@@shubnee-chan5661 Unlike Kuro - Hoyo, they were pioneers in this field. Kuro only repeats after them, so they will never become even close to so popular.
@ProfessorDefault
@ProfessorDefault 29 дней назад
You're confused on why you don't have a feel for a certain game??? HSR, ZZZ and Wuwa are all compelety different games fundementally, HSR is turn-based, ZZZ is a rougelike action and Wuwa is open world rpg, all very different games that set out to different things in terms of combat. I'm not you but if you don't like ZZZ's gameplay, you simply just don't like it, that's perfectly fine.
@hayseshouhda5730
@hayseshouhda5730 2 месяца назад
I am more interested in how the game does than actually playing the game. I fell off the wagon after the censorship, but i hope ZZZ fans enjoy the game.
@Toupx2
@Toupx2 2 месяца назад
I hope they just delete the TVs :(
@stevencoto1853
@stevencoto1853 2 месяца назад
Keep hoping, xoxo
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
For what? Let's imagine that they delete tv's. Only fights lasting several minutes remain in the game. And a lot of loadings. Then will you stop crying? I doubt
@CoFF3e_Man
@CoFF3e_Man 2 месяца назад
​@@broccoli5176I mean as a concept the tv is good BUT on the way they implemented it, it's not really fitting yk? Mybe if they make the tv more grounded to the genre and plot. The reason why people hate the TV system is because it breaks immersion, not because it is sh*t. I mean, here let me give you an analogy: If you've listened to a single song for a whole day, on repeat, will you get bored and frustrated? Yes. They need to make it more diverse and unique from the last to make it more enjoyable and thrilling.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
​@@CoFF3e_Man Your example doesn't make sense because tv's minigames are already diverse. Besides, you don't spend all day on TV's alone. At the moment, this is only 10-20% of tvs in the game. "it breaks the immersion". Yes, exactly the same way immersion breaks down in other games when you just want to fight and game are forced you to collect chests, flowers or solve puzzles. "people" hate it because it's trendy to hate it. Don't pretend that you are here to give "constructive" criticism, because kuro players are not capable of giving it.
@CoFF3e_Man
@CoFF3e_Man 2 месяца назад
@@broccoli5176 No. Stop hugging hoyo and just step back and see it on another player's view, you entered a hack and slash ARPG to experience the ACTION, the FIGHTS, and the ADRENALINE of combat. Not whatever this TV system is. You are the one who's acting like your criticisms are perfect and immaculate but the truth is, you're just hugging it. If you really love the game be critical, point out the flaws, criticize it constructively to make it a better game worthy of your satisfaction. But if you really don't want to listen, then it's fine. It's not like I can completely change your mind or something.
@razornad1299
@razornad1299 2 месяца назад
I don't think i want to play any new hoyoverse game anymore .... That artefact kind of system is really sh*tty Also their dev that so stinggy and greedy that never listen to their players survey especially genshin dev is really put the end to me
@PlaylikeDuke97
@PlaylikeDuke97 2 месяца назад
but to my knowledge it is being handled by a different team not related to genshin dev. we know that dev from hsr have been much better bring Qol updates and new modes. let's hope for the best.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
idk what are you talking about. New games like Wuthering Waves also have a sh*tty artifacts system implemented in a slightly different way. This is not only hoyoverse anymore. Btw what does genshin dev have to do with it? It's a different game from different team. People like you just like to write nonsense?
@razornad1299
@razornad1299 2 месяца назад
@@broccoli5176 then block me
@fgdfhhvvvvv14
@fgdfhhvvvvv14 2 месяца назад
I agree with you. I don't trust Hoyoverse games anymore. The rewards and events will be similar. The rewards are low and events in every Hoyoverse game is all just dialogue and mini games instead of combat. I'd rather play something else.
@Blackwolf-gr6ch
@Blackwolf-gr6ch 2 месяца назад
@@broccoli5176 ww already fixed it's "Artifact" system, and they make a difference by adding more movesets, so your comparison is bs
@bakad5458
@bakad5458 2 месяца назад
Besides the TVs, the gameplay itself is really lackluster you can just mash buttons and it really doesn’t matter. Of course hoyo wants the game to be noob friendly but it’s just so painfully boring. And the gameplay loop is even worse since it’s not open world and the stages are very basic and not interesting. ALSO WHY ARE THE COLORS SO FRICKIN WASHED OUT?!?! The game looks ugly af to me bcz of it
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
Who asked u? A game for the mentally handicapped will be released soon. Its name is Wuthering Waves and it has an open world. Enjoy. Have fun playing a game in which 99% of mobs die as fast as in genshit
@markedone494
@markedone494 2 месяца назад
Everybody talking about the tv aspect but the gameplay in itself really isnt anything interesting, its as braindead as honkai and genshin, i was really hoping mihoyo would actually create a combat system that is deeper than mashing the same two buttons again and again, its such a dissapointment, great designs, but gameplay shallow as a puddle.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
I know of one game in which the combat system is much deeper. But that doesn't save her from being secondary and boring. It seems to be released on May 23rd. If im not wrong. I prefer a more superficial gameplay than a game with an audience of one and a half people and bosses, where it is more difficult to see something on the screen than to fight the boss himself.
@zTenam
@zTenam 2 месяца назад
wait, I see that genshin combat is barren. however, about hi3rd and zzz, you've played arpg with a deeper combat system? I mean, I played dark souls and elden ring, devil may cry (all of them), and kingdom hearts (all of them too), and apart from the latter the other ones are based solely on timing and combo chaining. In kh and the from software games you have spells and abilities that spice up the combat but even here, different characters in zzz have skillsets and different combos/utility. I bet there are plenty arpg better than the one I mentioned, but if you know some other ones... well, I hope you don't mind sharing them (so maybe I might try them too)
@Nakirakira
@Nakirakira 2 месяца назад
@@zTenameven if the combat system IS complex , it wouldn’t really matter if all you is doing the same combos and mashing buttons until the boss eventually dies , since from what I’ve seen , even in hard mode the bosses are really slow and HP sponges
@zTenam
@zTenam 2 месяца назад
@@Nakirakira I think I'm missing the point then. What does it need? can you give an example? if the problem isn't the combat system then what is? the combat modes? I might agree to the fact that if the combat makes you feel unaccomplished then it's a bit pointless and boring. Is that what you mean?
@ArchAngelKnights
@ArchAngelKnights 2 месяца назад
bruh it needs to be stated that the tv system is outright horrible in every way. Im tired of cc's being afraid to say it how it is and lighten the blow. Its bad and is detrimental to the games success imo. People who like it are capping full stop. its not "ok" this time around....its as bad as its always been.
@Jakazin
@Jakazin 2 месяца назад
I mean, not saying it's very bad doesnt = being afraid to say how it is imo. Tv is bad but it's not a deal breaker. also it does get better in ch2 onwards. like, objectively.
@ArchAngelKnights
@ArchAngelKnights 2 месяца назад
@@Jakazin im in the beta as well and im gonna have to hard disagree. The tv system is absolutely killing the game for me.
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
>Its bad and is detrimental to the games success imo --- What "GAMES" do u mean? What is this set of hate that is just taken out of your head? Stop watching tectone and getting mad at the gameplay. If it annoys you so much, get out of the game and don't think about it anymore. Because they're not going to cut TV's out of the game completely.
@WarGodV_
@WarGodV_ 2 месяца назад
I love people like you who think that they are always right and everyone else is wrong. You sound like a kid who thinks that the world revolves around you.
@bopdabot
@bopdabot 2 месяца назад
Wait till he learns abt other opinions existing
@user-zf1bb5pe8w
@user-zf1bb5pe8w 2 месяца назад
like who thhe fuuckk hack an old tv? and the enemies even the boss is pretty passive.. whats the whole point of dodge and parry when even the boss would just attack once every 10 sec
@Blackwolf-gr6ch
@Blackwolf-gr6ch 2 месяца назад
NO, it still inferior to the other games on it's genre
@broccoli5176
@broccoli5176 2 месяца назад
Whatever you say, buddy. Living in wet fantasies is easier than living in reality. That's why you can continue.
@Blackwolf-gr6ch
@Blackwolf-gr6ch Месяц назад
@@broccoli5176 that's what I could say to you buddy, being a white knight for this game is so lame and sad, have fun though, you are literally on every video defending this game, hilarious
@roomer8381
@roomer8381 Месяц назад
bs
@Blackwolf-gr6ch
@Blackwolf-gr6ch Месяц назад
@@roomer8381 get your eyes checked then and see the other games on this genre, way better in everyway
@Blackwolf-gr6ch
@Blackwolf-gr6ch Месяц назад
@@roomer8381 you mean facts, lol, this game is inferior to pgr, hi3 and even shitty aether gazer
@northofmainstreet7281
@northofmainstreet7281 Месяц назад
Visually this game doesn't look good...
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