@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac I feel like that's because 1. A lot of people skip pills and 2. Pretty Fly isn't the most common pill, so people probably aren't seeing just how good it can be.
What's more cool is the fact that you can actually sacrifice the flies with sacrificial altar. And in the older versions, having three fliess blocks almost all incoming projectiles. But for repentance, i think it is a 66% chance or something
9:25 could’ve ranked the stat down pills in terms of usefulness with false phd? Like shotspeed down is a take even without false phd, but I’d never take a tears down for almost any reason.
Note on the drowzy pill: unlike stop watch it seems to also slow down the player, which is usually fine except there are some effects in the game that can't be slowed. For example, I used this againt hush once and were literally unable to run away from the tear pillars at the end, as they aren't slowed down
I've taken range down pills before when I have arced shots (haemolacria, ipecac) and have been happy to see them because range is kinda annoying on both, but yeah it's annoying most of the time
I dont get why bomb are key is neutral. It may not be that impactfull but it's not rare to have a ton of usless bombs if you get stompy or can break the rocks/walls with your tears, or have a ton of useless keys because of paper clip or money talks. In all the cases where your generation/need ratio of keys and bombs is not the same the pill is usefull.
Shot speed up synergizes well with Proptosis. Even though the game says "short range mega tears" it's actually the amount of time spent in air which decreases the damage. It's the opposite of Krampus charcoal.
Friends till the end is actually a more consistently good version of infested? with no enemies, since it guarantees 3 flies, and repentance changed it so that blue flies and blue spiders deal the same damage to enemies. Loved the graphics you did for the video!
As someone who played keyboard and controller.. Ima be real there are moments where I want a Speed Down Pill. However, this is only if I'm playing keyboard. The difference? If playing with controller, you can slightly nudge the left stick to make Isaac move more slowly, potentially acting like a "fine tune" dodge option, especially whenever I'm dealing with Hush. Keyboard? You got no way to "walk", only run. Having only one speed, and having a high speed, can make it tough to dodge barrages of projectiles. So for me I try to keep a balanced speed, like 0.9 to 1.5. The moment I go over it on keyboard, I am just BEGGING for a Speed Down pill to make it easier to control.
@@dannacoleman5189 Dataminer is so utterly unhinged that, if you are immensely lucky, it can make you tear stat go so low it literally UNDERFLOWS ingame and rolls from the lowest tear rate (0) to the HIGHEST (120). So yeah, if you are able to endure the immaculate 0.12 tears gameplay for 3 floors, this miracle MIGHT just happen to you.
I'm excited can help when farming loot in the arcade, it can also help after clearing all the floor and farming IV bag from donation machine. That's why the game says it's "neutral".
Shot Speed Down is actually super useful in a few cases. If you get an item like something like Trisagion, Tech X, or Godhead, it can directly increase your damage. It also makes homing shot effects more reliable. Honestly, if I reveal an early Shot Speed Down on Basement 1 or 2, I'll try to go Angel deals just because of all the potential synergies and homing items.
yeaaa but there are just too many ifs for it to be good for any reason lol. IF you're playing forgotten, IF you have too much range like its wayy to specific so its just bad 99.999% of the time lmao
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaacI'd still say range down is -3 instead of -4 because there's still *a* way to benefit from it, and if you can't benefit from it, range is still the least useful stat
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac I regularly get too much range if I'm playing Forgotten, and I have to consciously watch my range stat, I don't know if it's _that_ specific.
I once got so many size down pills and items (like binky) that I was smaller than a fly and the true challenge of the run became picking up items bc my hit box was so small
Though tear down pills is bad, when used with false phd on runs were you have like a billion tear ups and no damage. You can convert the excess tears to damge. And in some wierd cases you will want a low fire rate with moms knife especially with high range.
No clue wtf the items I had were but I recently had a run where every 2 to 3 rooms I was getting a heart container and literally couldn't ever get soul hearts
7:17 why does it mention zits? maybe i'm misremembering but there are no zits on his face it's only the hair 9:23 if you have monstro's lung you'll have a wider spread so you may enjoy that sidegrade
Range down is useful for a few scenarios. One of the few you mention is ipecac, but also hemolachria and dr.fetus. (also there is a chance for a synergy with Infested and card against humanity. Altho I understand that relying on a low chance gimmick is not the way to play issac.)
range down can be specially usefull when playing the forgoten mostly becausae if you get too much range your meelee starts way further than your hitbox leaving blind spots right in front of u
29:10 correction, spiders now do the same damage as friendly flies. why they changed this, i don't know. i felt it was balanced well considering spiders have worse mobility and are rarer but oh well
worst feeling pill of all time is bombs are key on tainted blue baby. your bomb count becomes nothing because you don't have bombs, and your key count becomes zero because you don't have bombs
Got a hot take, some of the stats down pills have a use. With false phd i love seeing a range down or a speed down. Health downs are great if im the lost but thats rare.
i feel like theres a case to be made for most if not all of the stat downs in negative never want to be at least a ring up from never want - if i have no other pocket consumable thats worth bringing with me usually i hold on to stat down pills if i can find them just for the small chance i find phd; lucky foot; virgo or false phd its a minor thing but to me i wouldnt call them completely skippable never wanting them; since the potential to convert them is pretty nice if you got nothing else to hold onto
Don’t forget, health down can help balance your health if you have too many heart containers and are unable to take soul hearts to protect your deal chance
9:23 range down pills are good with monstro’s lung. I’d argue also ipecac and haemo too. Too much range with melee characters especially like t forgotten is bad as well
24:00 I have not played much of the game, but where does the hitbox stay then if you get bigger? Near the legs or near the head? Also at some point if you take "one makes you larger" you can stomp through rocks right? So you should go as far as to unlock the stomp effect then you should not take any more, correct?
Hit box is near the legs. Stomping through rocks can be dangerous if you touch a mushroom, bomb rock, and some rocks in womb burst into tears. Not bad, but still some downside to look out for.
@@justicepenguin7996 thank you, I’ve known about the game for a while but just got into it recently. The mushrooms are definitely a hazard in that case yeah, never thought about that
Imagine this scenario, You're playing as The Lost or Tainted lost you have a godly run and you go in the curse room but, Oh No you got hit in there you're now going to die and lose this amazing run but you remember Oh Yeah I have a Telepills you use it and now you saved the run
i have beef with the range down pill because when i was doing a dataminer run trying to get the funny number on one of my stats it already kept taking from my range, to the point i had 1.5 range then, this asshole pill decides to show up and because it cant even take a full 1 off of my range im stuck with 1 range as tlost to the point im using ball of bandages because it has the same range and higher dps than me and then, i find sausage from chaos, and it cant even make my range go up because of the range down pill holding a grudge and putting me in debt instead of letting me shoot farther than i could swing
i always "golden pill or no balls". i never take pills otherwise without lucky foot or phd or virgo (or if i forgot something, that too). false phd maybe.
range is reversed for monstros lung. the other mat knows this smhhh also i believe edmund reversed the spiders doing more damage also also golden pill vuro doesnt give golden pill