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Isengard Vs Army of the Dead! ~ Conquest Champions Game 2! ~ Middle Earth SBG Battle Report 

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In this game we have the Army of the Dead with ARagor piloted by PJ, The General, going up against Isengard played by Nathan, The Wildcard. It's a 650 point clash of titans in season 3 of the Conquest Champions League!
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@wadehudson9776
@wadehudson9776 Месяц назад
Both absolutely beautiful armies. Seems like a rough matchup for Isengard
@reslime
@reslime Месяц назад
It really is 😅 i usually play Isengard and a friend of mine runs the dead LL. it's so hard to kill their soldiers while Aragorn tears apart your lines and calls Heroic combacts each turn, Terror is a problem too
@sharbie9540
@sharbie9540 Месяц назад
I’d say the opposite! Army of the Dead hates F4/S4 troops, and C3 is an important break point as well. Berserkers are incredible, crossbows are incredible, ballistas/bombs are incredible, and Aragorn is the best possible target for Saruman or Grima if they're around. The particular lists here may not quite have that dynamic, but in general Isengard is one of the best possible armies into Dunharrow
@SonsOfGondor1
@SonsOfGondor1 Месяц назад
I was like, "Lurtz won the Strike-off - some luck at last!" *rolls a 2-high* Ooof . . .
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
The sad music should have queued in
@francescogulisano2917
@francescogulisano2917 Месяц назад
I'm guessing this was done on purpose, but I really like the fact that all the round 1 matches were paired as evil vs good
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the comment, that was done on purpose!
@kierfish
@kierfish Месяц назад
Those are fantastic paint jobs on both armies. Very well done boys! Top tier basing too!
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the feedback mate!
@craig3111
@craig3111 Месяц назад
CC is the best mesbg batrep channel. One channel to rule them all.
@JohnnyTightIips
@JohnnyTightIips Месяц назад
That's why he's the rightful king of Gondor
@NickSibz
@NickSibz Месяц назад
Aragorn quite literally ran train over everything and KOTD's auto kill on wounds is insane. Those models all look amazing too.
@Eiweing
@Eiweing Месяц назад
The dice definitely went against Isengard. How many ghosts did he actually kill?
@louise.4748
@louise.4748 Месяц назад
U can see a lot of love and effort goes into these videos👏👏
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks mate! I am trying my hardest on these
@KnudAutlermann
@KnudAutlermann Месяц назад
Dang what an amazing match! I was waiting all week for this one!
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks mate, the next video is on the editing table now!
@TiagoRamosVideos
@TiagoRamosVideos Месяц назад
Yesterday I've played The Return of the King LL vs Lurtz' Scouts LL and today this video comes out 😱👌
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
That is an awesome coincidence!
@LakeyWargames
@LakeyWargames Месяц назад
Been really looking forward to this game and it did not disappoint!! Well done to both players and what fantastic looking armies to have clash! A real joy to watch. :)
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks mate! I can't wait to get the next episode out!
@BrianSmith-cn2jh
@BrianSmith-cn2jh Месяц назад
Absolutely fantastic! I am loving this tournament so far and I cannot wait to see the finale. Thanks for your amazing, beautiful, dedicated videos. Also, the paint jobs are exceptionally well done.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks!
@ArchangelTyrael
@ArchangelTyrael Месяц назад
Amazing paint jobs on the armies. Really like the Fountain Guard too. And man that Aragorn is a beast as long as he doesn't fluff his rolls. Can't wait for the Gil-Galad and Ellendil combination. They will hit really hard.
@IcarusGames89
@IcarusGames89 Месяц назад
Gorgeous armies you guys should be so proud. Thanks for doing this series
@halvorlarsen2708
@halvorlarsen2708 Месяц назад
Very good video and editing! Keep it up!
@montelugo3908
@montelugo3908 Месяц назад
Crazy game ! I really feared for PJ losing the objectives in the late game, but fortunately he won those fights and got them back. Really great !
@JourneymanHandcraft
@JourneymanHandcraft Месяц назад
Great video yet again!!
@irishtom30
@irishtom30 Месяц назад
Fantastic paint jobs and nice sportsman ship on display
@mrvinc908
@mrvinc908 Месяц назад
Painting really matters to the battle, beautiful armies !
@Spartan2444
@Spartan2444 Месяц назад
Great Bat Rep! Always look forward to seeing a new video from you! 🔥🔥
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks mate! Can't wait to get the next one released
@philipdeamer8787
@philipdeamer8787 Месяц назад
Great video, shout out to those painting cases as well I may have to get one of these, will make my painting life a lot more organised and cleaner!
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
I absolutely love mine, it's constantly going between home and the studio
@smoothbrush4722
@smoothbrush4722 Месяц назад
Nice game and painted armies
@JDWidhalm
@JDWidhalm Месяц назад
I love playing ghosty bois. And seeing such a lovely painted and based army of them on the channel is a real treat!
@hannsolo2251
@hannsolo2251 Месяц назад
Good stuff! Just as a heads up- I think you forgot the link to your kickstarter in the video discription? I wanted to check it out but couldnt find it.
@user-ob7bc4kg5b
@user-ob7bc4kg5b Месяц назад
Really good battle and awesome dead army bases! May i ask how they are done?
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the comment! I believe they are resin cast bases
@729060
@729060 Месяц назад
Its unfortunate that Isengard had its worst matchup right from the start, they were some beautiful painted models and I would have loved to see more of them. Will be interesting for round 2 if the Harad list can do better since its used to being hit on 4s and is already expecting to work around that.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
The next game with be very interesting, D8 is great against shooting but a horde of fight 4 going up against a small fight 3 army could be tough. We haven't filmed it yet but I am keen
@729060
@729060 Месяц назад
@@ConquestCreations I expect the Betrayer to become a key model as long as the compel and transfix into Aragorn don't wiff.
@kentonbiffert2802
@kentonbiffert2802 Месяц назад
Finally this came out.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Some of these will be weekly and some fortnightly
@thesmithy3D
@thesmithy3D Месяц назад
This was the matchup I had the most anticipation for seeing as I play Isengard as my main evil force and Dead/Tirith as my main good force. It did not disappoint! Question for PJ, what are your thoughts on replacing the Herald with Hurin on horse for his synergies with Aragorn? I have used them together with the dead to decent success.
@brandonkirk6498
@brandonkirk6498 Месяц назад
FOR GONDOR! FOR GONDOR! PLEASE WIN THE TOURNAMENT ELESSAR SHOW US YOUR GREATNESS :)
@susiduo3438
@susiduo3438 Месяц назад
Well made.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks mate
@szilarderki5449
@szilarderki5449 Месяц назад
2 beautifully painted armies but Aragorn and army of the dead...the most effective and easypilot almost "stupidproof" army. Mainly against all evil armies. A very irritating army to play against
@mikeglasswell-gameplay
@mikeglasswell-gameplay Месяц назад
Great Round. i have fought Army of the dead before with Isengard, its tough. have to really go with 9 or so crossbows with Vrashku to be effective. i love using Heroic Accuracy, i think its under utilised
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the comment. It was sad that it didn't pay off here! It would have been great to see how different the game could have been
@karlwhite8294
@karlwhite8294 Месяц назад
I cant remember the last time I watched so many ads
@Ilostmycactus
@Ilostmycactus Месяц назад
I love watching these. I hope the other games come quicker.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
I am at the editing desk now and just doing the final watch through of game 3 to check for any errors!
@loganbrown2959
@loganbrown2959 Месяц назад
I know it’s an elimination but I still wanna see the others duke it out!
@powlaband6579
@powlaband6579 Месяц назад
That army of the dead list with Aragorn is busted, endless free might
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
It's a strong list but has low fight value and low numbers. Aragorn is great but he can only be in one place at a time!
@nordicmoose2147
@nordicmoose2147 Месяц назад
Man do I love watching your games. I have a ton of time at work recently and it makes it less boring. Altough a small bit of criticism. You guys keep refering to the players names instead of their faction. This would be perfectly fine and im all for getting then known, but it makes the commentary hard to follow as im a visual learner and keep forgetting who is playing what. I know it is mentionned at the start, but 15-20min in i start to get confused every time. Maybe having a visual reminder somewhere would be great, maybe along with the turn counter animation or somewhere at the bottom of the video along with a models until broken tally?
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the feedback, I could definitely add a few more visual ques in to hep with that!
@thefinalseries
@thefinalseries Месяц назад
Any idea how the AOTD were painted? They look amazing.
@TheKodiak72
@TheKodiak72 Месяц назад
This battle continues to confirms my opinion, I dont get what people froth over Isengard Crossbows, everygame ive used them theyve been pretty useless... But from shooting missing and means the that model didnt move. Far better to bring some S3 uruk scouts, atleast then they can move and shoot if needed.
@leonk.3739
@leonk.3739 Месяц назад
I'd love to know how the warriors of the dead were painted!
@loganschmoyer1382
@loganschmoyer1382 2 месяца назад
Wow what a steamroll
@craig3111
@craig3111 Месяц назад
Is that a denethor model made up as an army of the dead troop?
@Anonanonanon163
@Anonanonanon163 Месяц назад
Very good eye! That model was used in a gimmic tournament in Victoria where everyone had to use a version of Denethor. That was PJ’s.
@BlumenkohlBroccoli1
@BlumenkohlBroccoli1 Месяц назад
Those F5 heroes would have needed to go in from round 1 supported with 2 pikes and Banner to just avoid the ghosts winning many fights at all and kill a few here and there. Also, having 2/3 of your army die fighting, while 1/3 of it just tries to shoot normally ain't working out well since you'r just giving up to many dice for combat. Anyways - really well painted models, absolutely gorgerous.
@joshcable2240
@joshcable2240 Месяц назад
Pretty hard to avoid the ghosts!
@BlumenkohlBroccoli1
@BlumenkohlBroccoli1 Месяц назад
@@joshcable2240 Not avoiding themself, but avoiding them winning fights, since F5 heroes with 2 attacks, 2 pikes and a banner would win nearly every fight against 2 ghosts, so they don't kill your Uruk-Hai as fast.
@CaptnLoken
@CaptnLoken Месяц назад
Aragorn. With an r.
@mikoajdeszcz4454
@mikoajdeszcz4454 Месяц назад
I am not sure why the Isengard forces has -1 to courage. The harbinger of evil feat comes from the legendary legion which is not in play 🤔
@robbertd5561
@robbertd5561 19 дней назад
Harbinger is the army bonus for Dead of Dunharrow so it is in fact still applicable due to the Historical allied in Minas Tirith
@borkman5576
@borkman5576 Месяц назад
Is running the Return of the King LL still a competitive option? Love me some Dunharrow.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
The Return of the King legion hasn't changed so its just as viable as it has always been. It's tough to get right with it and has a relatively low win rate with only 40% wins out of 381 games. I reckon that is heavily influenced by it being popular with new players so I think its quite a lot better than that.
@noahkarmann3994
@noahkarmann3994 Месяц назад
Man the army of dead just seems broken and not fun to play against. Having low fight is their main draw back but striking againt courage, causing terror, and being d8 is ridiculous. I never enjoy playing against them
@Noobslayar
@Noobslayar Месяц назад
Why isn’t this video listed on your channel? I could only find it within the champions league playlist and didn’t get a notification for it being posted
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
You have managed to find it early! It is scheduled for release on Thursday, you just got lucky!
@Noobslayar
@Noobslayar Месяц назад
@@ConquestCreations Haha ok, thank you. You did a fantastic job with this one! The editing is really fantastic here, you make it very easy to keep track of what is happening in the game with the overlays.
@collincollar1398
@collincollar1398 Месяц назад
For the algorithm
@jamesgilray7025
@jamesgilray7025 Месяц назад
Is it the legendary legion the good player is using ?not sure if Aragon can take a horse ?
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
It's just a regular army list alliance between Gondor and Army of the Dead
@JosephSDodd
@JosephSDodd Месяц назад
It's a Minas Tirith/AoTD green alliance
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO Месяц назад
Is it just me, or are these boards just made for elite armies? How is that Urukhai horde supposed to beat that army with a giant fence piece sitting in the middle of the table, a building covering the right flank, and a building covering the left? Looked like Arragon just ploughs straight through the middle with a Defence 7 terror wall flanked with 2 buildings and a fence in the middle to save them from being outnumbered substantially ever? Then again, maybe it's a list issue, perhaps a shaman or more berzerkers to get around the terror and some more bows to get more shots at demounting Arragon and actually using Lurtz; maybe it's just poor piloting from the evil side. I don't play Isengard I wouldn't know but seemed like a very one-sided game.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the comment, if you think that these boards are made for elite armies it is very likely that you aren't using enough terrain in your games. In the rulebook's 'Matched Play' section it suggests 33% - 50% of the board is covered with terrain. In this game we were on the lower end of that at about 33%. I would definitely recomend playing with a bit more! I find it to be a lot more interesting
@OGEETOMO
@OGEETOMO Месяц назад
@@ConquestCreations@ConquestCreations That doesn't really convince me, TBH. Two buildings covering each flank of the front-to-back flank is definitely an advantage for the elite army. I don't see that in the rule book-basically forcing people to use cav with a march to wrap to get around the building? Obviously, the board does need terrain, but it still seems like a massive advantage to have two impassable pieces on either side of a front-to-back flank where the tokens are. The result somewhat supports this as well (do have to consider there were some horrific roles as well, and the heroes didn't do much for evil), does it not? Either way, the whole point is to show off the terrain pieces. Well, it definitely did that they look amazing while blocking a wrap haha.
@lordsauron8811
@lordsauron8811 Месяц назад
Vrashku with his crossbow he is able to shoot twice remember
@Competentetyler
@Competentetyler Месяц назад
From what I saw, he was. Just wasn’t hitting anything.
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Yep don't worry he shot twice every time, he just struggled to get a hit!
@Alex-gq3zr
@Alex-gq3zr 6 дней назад
Can you explain how Aragon was allowed to be mounted? I'm building AOTD at the moment and keep being told he cannot be mounted in the legendary legion
@Alex-gq3zr
@Alex-gq3zr 6 дней назад
I guess now watching it more its not a LL, its just a ally?
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations 6 дней назад
This was not the Legendary Legion. It is a green ally between the Dead of Dunharrow and Minas Tirith. That is why it was Aragorn, King Ellessar, rather than Strider and he was able to lead some fountain court guard
@TristanBiffert
@TristanBiffert Месяц назад
Link for kingdom of tor ithilas?
@privateershark8291
@privateershark8291 Месяц назад
Well, how do you beat those guys then? They barely took any damage at all. Am a newbie
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the comment. The big weakness of the army of the dead is their low fight value so despite them easily wounding their opponents if they don't win the fights they will never strike blows. They are also very low model count meaning that if enemy armies play it correctly they should be able to surround and trap the army of the dead
@Elessar_King
@Elessar_King Месяц назад
Yup, Nathan should aim to surround AoD with his numbers and instead of pushing into fight focus on claiming all possible objective as main goal. So taking courage checks to charge is less important in this scenario than getting and claiming objectives..
@jessepigram1039
@jessepigram1039 Месяц назад
How you beat them really depends on what you're using and the scenario. In Nathan's place, I woulda deployed further back to give myself a turn or two of proper shooting while trying to pull the enemy army away from the choke point. D7/8 is hard to crack, but if you throw enough dice, eventually you get wounds
@TheFlashman
@TheFlashman Месяц назад
You've missed an e in enemy for your objectives at 2:30
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Please accept my resignation
@TheFlashman
@TheFlashman Месяц назад
@@ConquestCreations 🤣 no you're not getting off that easy back to the content creation mine for you. We need more premium MESBG videos not less! *cracks whip*
@michaelthurley1651
@michaelthurley1651 Месяц назад
On second watch: some thoughts this was a bad match up for isengard. the list lacks high damage, and courage, and numbers, the list needed 5-7 dunlending with 2h axes they are cheaper and backed by pikes cause the warriors of the dead trade more in your favor. also increases numbers neede to face more elite armies. no counters for aragorn exist in isengard sadly. this channel has anti dunlending bias ... Im sending a complaint to Thrydain himself about this.
@BogBabs
@BogBabs Месяц назад
Bomb crew is pretty good counter to Aragorn.
@Zeromus5555
@Zeromus5555 Месяц назад
You need to do a better job at spell checking...
@scrotymcboogerballs6756
@scrotymcboogerballs6756 Месяц назад
Cool batte report, great editing as always! Though I don't understand why you can't just put the army lists on the screen for a few seconds, instead of making us click away from the video. That would be much more convenient and not very hard to do
@ConquestCreations
@ConquestCreations Месяц назад
Thanks for the comment and feedback
@scrotymcboogerballs6756
@scrotymcboogerballs6756 Месяц назад
@@ConquestCreations And thank you for engaging so much with your community! Can't wait for Battle 3 of the league (Especially as a Mordor player)
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