Ishmael: The FORGOTTEN Son, How BLESSED By God (The FATHER Of Arab Nation). 

outstanding observation and a comment worth noting.God bless you!

Well the Israelites and Judaeans fought all the time. They are even more closely related

It is sad, but I the Bible it says Ishmael will fight with others and others will always fight with him

yes it did....great observation.God Bless@@nanhand99

@@nanhand99 that is actually for Esau

God isn't a man and Jesus is a prophet

This is a major point being made. They are not a part of the point.

Very Good my friend.

Very true, it was common even back then for sons to fight and even kill the other to fight over inheritance or thrones, especially if there were separate mothers that would benifit from it. By Jewish law it was Ishmael the oldest son not Isaac that should have received the inherentce from Abraham. Maby they wouldn't be enemy's today if Abraham had split the inherentce with them both and honored them both equally and there might not have been a endless jealousy, hatred, and fighting over Jerusalem/ Israel. (Personally i think it was what he did after Abraham ask them to leave the house that led to thousands of years of strive, not that he had two sons with two women)

@@aaronb8698 Had that split been done, it would have contravened God’s intention to create a separate line of descent down to Christ, create a people separate from the pagan religions at the time. Because of Sarah’s lack of complete trust that God would give her a son, she sinned both against God and her husband, allowed another woman into her close relationship with her husband which caused issues and went against what God had chosen Marriage to be- One Man, One Woman intimate relationship. In all this time, Abraham had never taken another woman to his bed, or divorced her for being barren. It was his right to do so under the current social norms. Yet she chose to pressure her husband to take a concubine, the son she would from Hagar, did not happen. Clearly, the 13 year old was as arrogant as his mother when he mocked Issac as some lowly status son, Sarah saw him as threat (which he was) to her son’s inheritance , but also his safety. She had put up with his mother’s attempt to replace Sarah as a legal wife and the son’s attitude mirrored that. Abraham sinned when he agreed to sleep with Hagar. Those two decisions would have far reaching and tragic consequences for the descendants of both Sons. God had mercy on Hagar , promising they would not die in the desert, but her son would become progenitor of a mighty descendants - yet his hand would be against all people, suggesting a quarrelsome nature that would grate against other tribes and cause conflicts. So do we blame God for his mercy to a mother’s heartfelt plea to save her child’s life as they were dying of thirst? Do we blame it on Abraham and Sarah’s decisions? Do we blame Ishmal’s dependents whose choice was to fight instead of diplomacy? Two decisions by two people lead to a child who would not be God’s chosen leader of his people. God’s decision not to let that child die but grow up. That led to the consequences of strife between Ishmael and Issac’s descendants Ask yourself, what does this cause and effect tell us? Multiple women competing for one man’s affection will cause strife and favouritism . It will cause strife between siblings over inheritance and children may be used as pawns in the competition between multiple women for husband’s time, affection, or resources. It is a warning of what happens when we disobey God ‘s commands and decide a solution ourselves. Sarah wanted mother and son dead but Abraham would not allow that in an outright manner, so she chose a more indirect way, send them away. They may live or die, more likely die, but God intervened against the murderous intent of Sarah’s heart. I believe God loved Ishmael just as much as Issac.

Many family's all over the world find a way to live in peace when there is a dispute over inheritance and legitimacy. Do you think all of palastin should be sent into the desert to die one again, or should the jew start showing some desancy and divide land fairly so all may live in peace, and with respect of fellow man without teaching there children to hate and murder there old family? (Is the ground soaked in Jewish blood the only thing that angers God or do all men have value? In truth i am angry at both the the sacred Jew, treating Palistin worse than the germans did in ww2 and the Palestinians for there unwillingness to make pease over old grievances and stop acting worse than all of us less chosen people. I think murdering children should be a war crime no madder if your Jewish Russian or Palistin and all who actually believe in God should look to find peace and try to improve the lives of old enemies with democracy not war.

​@@KittymoreJoy Nice breakdown. Thanks for this.

God wants to know who will choose the Satan. They are not his people and not part of His plan.

Yes, it is an interesting 10:31 read.

And They all lived in Utter Turmoil ever since.😢

His descendants basically make up the entirety of what we know to be the muslims. Jews and Muslims are literal brothers destroying each other like Cain and Abel

During that time God allowed man to take many wives if they were never married, although it was not his prefect will. The problem with David sleeping with Beersheba, she was married to another man and David killed her husband once he could not hide her pregnancy. Once, David saw his wrong and repented, God allowed him to take her so his son would be taken care of. If you read in Genesis, the first man to take two wives was Cain's grandson and he was a MAN OF THE WORLD. The men of Adam never took two wives until Abraham slept with Hagar. Then Ismael took 2 wives. No MAN OF GOD before these days took two wives.

⁠​⁠@@michellehunter2993idk that doesn’t make sense to me. If marriage between one man and one woman was always the game plan then nothing else should be allowed. Unless it’s not that big of a deal. I can understand rule changes but if being with more than one woman was and is always wrong, why allow generations to be with more than one woman? Why willingly give one man multiple women but punish another for the same actions? Back then they could’ve had one wife but also had concubines n handmaidens. Technically the man would still be married to one woman which would’ve been seen as ok. Unless being with multiple woman just wasn’t or isn’t that big of a deal. Must not be if God himself gave them to David. If murdering innocent and just people is and was always wrong, would God tell someone to murder an innocent and just person? I feel most people would just say “well God does what he wants” but we all have a brain for a reason

What is the fastest way to grow a population and preserve genetic diversity? Multiple wives. Science gives us that. God changed His mind regarding Israel many times, as we see in the difference between Old and New Testaments. History gives us this. Lastly, faith, for who are we to judge what God decrees?? Hope this answers your questions, please feel free to ask if you want me to clarify since that's just a basic answer. I'm no expert but I spend a lot of time on the study anyhow

⁠@@brandi7986So the only way God, who can do all things, could’ve grew the earths population and not have genetic mutation was to go against his own morals that he set and allow men to have multiple wives? It must not be a big deal if that was allowed and not other things but I’ll leave it alone

Bro switch to islam you can have 4 wives i was watching the video and i was thinking the.same as you think god im muslem

It all went according to the lord

It also goes back to Sarah. It was Sarah who put her slave to be with her husband because she had no patience. If Sarah had only waited and believed God.

Thanks for letting us Know the history of Ishmael

Sarah mearly made a suggestion that could be accepted or rejected by Abram. He had time to think it over, pray about it, and possibly reject the suggestion. It was his physical act that caused the pregnancy. It adds up that he should take the blame. As my mom used to say, if someone suggests you jump off a cliff, it is your fault if you do and get hurt.

@@jaynekrauss4758 , I agree with you, look how many wife's David had and had his best friend killed to take his wife, they all human

Sure did

Abraham is the father of three religions Judaism, Islam, and Christianity

And?

@@feanacar islam came 600 years after I dont think so

False ..

"God will hear"Ishmael

This garbage is nothing but a bunch of fake Christian nonsense spewing out of the mouths of people who couldn't be farther removed from Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, or the real people of the land and their history. Idiots who have nothing but pure, unadulterated hatred for the true descendants of Abraham. 😂

I'm looking for any church that believes this bc it is true. Jesus was Messiah but not God.

@@notacommunistholocaustdenier Amen! I’ve been looking for one too-most do not fully speak the words of God.

@@user-rj8py9ld3j the only group I know who clearly says this message is the twelve tribes community

Knowing Christ.....(. God in the flesh)....is knowing the Father.... John 17..... God displays His devine nature..thru Christ....

@@patriot4amer Christ isn’t God in the flesh. He is the “Word of God” in the flesh. He is the image of God-that doesn’t make him God, for no man has seen or heard God. This immediately disqualifies Jesus as God alone. God does display His divine nature through Jesus, but Jesus and God are separate entities…they are not the same entity, they are the same/one in agreement.

Muhammed was sent to cancel biased ways of worship

Radical side of Muslims results in terroristism....whereas the results of Christianity results in humility..love... servant hood...loving our enemies....BIG DIFFERENCE

where’s that in the Bible silly woman Sarah was beautiful and Abraham did not desire Hagar do your due diligence and check facts instead of blabbering

@@noemibarrios4056 hey Dipshite… do Not need to check facts as I never said Sarah was ugly and can YOU prove she was not and neither was I blabbering but adding a possibility as We all Know man’s flesh is weak… Now, Can You prove Me Wrong? Unless you can, do not reply as You are excused!

Asserting either way that he wanted or didn’t want Hagar is unfounded and undocumented conjecture. We simply do not and cannot know. Furthermore it’s irrelevant and unimportant. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Who cares? 😅

@@ericb2409 no, Not unimportant nor irrelevant nor unfounded and neither do I care… these things are here for ALL opinions and though knowing what is said about opinions… that is just another suggestable idea. Now, wether it buggers Your little brain… DEAL WITH IT or not, I really do not, as You say, give a care. YOU too are excused.

@@magdatorruellas9122 🤣😜

Wrong. The Covenant was with the promised child, not the cild of the flesh. The Covenant was with the one born of impossible circumstances; not the child born of natural drives.

It matters not. JESUS CHRIST is the only way and the only covenant that matters to God. The Old Testament and the old ways are redundant and tossed out. Replaced by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, in the New Testament.

​@@_SnowJustice_God never tossed anything, only came to forfil because no man could live and meet God with the old ways. Jesus provided Grace because he was now the blood sacrifice