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Isn't Less Pain Better? | Focus on Humane Practices | Debate | Christ University | Bangalore 

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There are a few instances in this Q & A where I could not hear what the student was saying as there were issues with the microphone. Also in hindsight I feel I have left out a very big point and that is the fact that what we are fighting against is systemic. If we change the system from cruel to what we perceive as less cruel, that does not benefit for the victims. Comparing this systemic violence to something like capital punishment (which is an isolated incident) is also not a fair comparison.
For isolated incidents where the victim is innocent and we are unable to save their life, it makes sense to find a way to reduce their pain and suffering. But demanding for that when it comes to systemic violence only normalises the continued use and abuse against them and does nothing to help them out of the system. I really regret not adding this point during the Q and A session.
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@arvindanimalactivist8192
@arvindanimalactivist8192 5 часов назад
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@Indianterrain-w7x
@Indianterrain-w7x 4 часа назад
Arvind let say to 100 years from now. Animal consume green leaves and human consume green leaves base on vegan .then what situation will be in that time 100 years later? Did human eat all green leaves or trees etc? How much time takes for cabage to matured? Animal or eatable green leaves are food cycle for human. isn't it? What is your response.
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
@Indianterrain-w7x Food cycle exists only in the forests. We're already out of the woods & produce our own food through agriculture. Livestock is a huge burden because we also have to produce food for those too. It's an economic abomination.
@LouisGedo
@LouisGedo Час назад
👋 hi
@locksudoshin-h6m
@locksudoshin-h6m Час назад
😂😂😂😂😂 go ask the Undead Chickens 👍 😂
@thelavangela
@thelavangela 4 часа назад
So she's been an "animal rights activist" since childhood but missed the memo that rights don’t include "humane killing." It's like calling yourself an environmentalist while torching a forest because you did it with eco-friendly matches.
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
It's like promoting non violence through domestic violence.
@pot8735
@pot8735 2 часа назад
How about less cruel life for those animals and as a food..
@jangwan
@jangwan 18 минут назад
😂
@shakuntala2207-k5z
@shakuntala2207-k5z 3 часа назад
Arvind there are people who are changing, I'm one of them
@neerajaggarwal4689
@neerajaggarwal4689 48 минут назад
Changing or changed?
@shakuntala2207-k5z
@shakuntala2207-k5z 46 минут назад
@@neerajaggarwal4689 changed a long time back by listening Acharya Prashant.
@shakuntala2207-k5z
@shakuntala2207-k5z 41 минуту назад
@@neerajaggarwal4689 changed a long time back by listening Acharya Prashant.
@shakuntala2207-k5z
@shakuntala2207-k5z 32 минуты назад
@@neerajaggarwal4689 changed a long time back by listening Acharya Prashant
@Ram_Mohammad_Singh_Adam
@Ram_Mohammad_Singh_Adam 6 минут назад
I m in my final stage of adopting veganism. At personal level, I have adopted vegan products over the course of last 2 years. But I still have to convince my parents ,🥶 who are adamant in thinking that it is against our religion 😶‍🌫️
@Nam13_13
@Nam13_13 3 часа назад
I am shocked.. How is she an animal right activist??? she does not know anything about animal emotions, pain suffering
@thelavangela
@thelavangela 3 часа назад
Short answer: She isn't. She just likes the label because it makes her look morally superior in front of her peers. Probably started to call herself an animal activist after throwing 2 biscuits at her street dogs.
@eemayo5889
@eemayo5889 4 часа назад
lets hope our granchildren generation gets to see Veganised world.
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
I'm not sure because by that time, humanity may die of climate disaster.
@thelavangela
@thelavangela 4 часа назад
Your statement sounds ideal on paper, but antinatalism challenges that by pointing out that the most ethical choice is not to bring anyone into existence at all. Veganism opposes exploiting animals, but birthing children fuels the endless cycle of suffering. Life itself is like a cancer-multiplying without purpose, with suffering growing every day. Just as breeding animals for human use is selfish and immoral, so is creating more humans to endure the inevitable pain of existence.
@thelavangela
@thelavangela 3 часа назад
"Let’s hope our grandchildren see a vegan world" sounds ideal on paper, but antinatalism challenges that by pointing out that the most ethical choice is not to bring anyone into existence at all. Veganism opposes exploiting animals, but birthing children fuels the endless cycle of suffering. Life itself is like a cancer-multiplying without purpose, with suffering growing every day. Just as breeding animals for human use is selfish and immoral, so is creating more humans to endure the inevitable pain of existence.
@thelavangela
@thelavangela 3 часа назад
"Let’s hope our grandchildren see a vegan world" sounds nice in theory, but antinatalism argues that the most ethical choice is not to bring anyone into existence. Veganism opposes the exploitation of animals, but having more humans only contributes to increased consumption and suffering. Just as breeding animals for human use is selfish, so is creating more humans-it perpetuates the cycle of suffering for both animals and people. Choosing not to procreate may be one of the most effective ways to minimize harm.
@kjmaniket
@kjmaniket 3 часа назад
I won't marry , there won't be any grandchildren of mine and my elder cousins are also single happily ... There won't be any grandchildren of us ❤
@Niltuu
@Niltuu 3 часа назад
I am a vegeterian and trying to be vegan. But my family is not so i m putting some pictures of animals showing empathy and love so that my family look the pictures daily and they too become vegan or vegeterian.
@thelavangela
@thelavangela 3 часа назад
This girl needs to stop calling herself an "animal rights activist." With such an anthropocentric view and lack of compassion, she’s not advocating for animals at all, she’s merely speaking for humans in a watered-down way because she doesn't want to make real changes. Shame on her.
@pot8735
@pot8735 2 часа назад
She is right, making a life healthy for humans and reducing cruel life from animals.
@SaravananVallalar
@SaravananVallalar 4 часа назад
Why to promote a wrong doing in a right method?
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
Bcoz it's so called "realistic" according to her.
@pot8735
@pot8735 2 часа назад
What's wrong when its being the food??
@pot8735
@pot8735 2 часа назад
​​@@PunyHulkyes she is more realistic than vegans i can say..
@SaravananVallalar
@SaravananVallalar 2 часа назад
@@pot8735 Animals are not food. They are Sentient beings like us.
@SaravananVallalar
@SaravananVallalar 2 часа назад
@@pot8735 @pot8735 Animals are not food. They are Sentient beings like us.
@veganforlife5733
@veganforlife5733 4 часа назад
Your combination of passion and genius leaves me speechless. All I can say is Thank You !!... I know your next chapter of life will be even more amazing and powerful.
@sneharaikar32
@sneharaikar32 4 часа назад
The biggest problem in the girls mentality is that she is underestimating the power of human beings and willpower. I myself m trying to become vegan but i cannot as of yet, but atleast one can admit that i am not mentally SO STRONG(as of now) to give up milk products since turning veg was in itself a huge change for me... But atleast one should ACCEPT! Arvind is trying to CHANGE the system all together and the girl is trying to STAY in the system and try to bring a lil change. But i trust my will and know that some day il develop the mental strength to go vegan. Lets not underestimate the will power of a human brain and the compassion of a human heart ....its time to change the system 😅
@shivaniagarwal1841
@shivaniagarwal1841 3 часа назад
Great job on turning vegetarian, baby steps!! It took me a few months to transition too.. Watch Maa ka doodh or other documentaries. I dont even view cheese, milk products as "food" anymore.. it will give you the jolt you need, otherwise you will always view it as "food" you had to "give up". Good luck
@pot8735
@pot8735 2 часа назад
U get mental strength by eating nutritious food which is from animals.
@davidformosa7626
@davidformosa7626 Час назад
Trying to become vegan but cannot as of yet because youre not mentally strong enough? Dairy is the most evil industry ever devised by the human race. Think of the victims and the atrocities you currently support and becoming vegan suddenly becomes very easy!
@thattravellingguy
@thattravellingguy Час назад
You know what! It's all in the brain and the dopamine receptor in the amygdala (the area in the brain that makes you happy & content). It will take 3 weeks for the brain to retrain to newer stimulus. Just stop all dairy once and for all for three weeks. Trust me, there's nothing good about consuming any animal derived food for either the animals or the health of the people consuming it. So, for your own health and the animals welfare, stop it. Three weeks later, come back here and post your comment. It will inspire many others.
@madhubantipatil137
@madhubantipatil137 3 часа назад
Brilliant Arvind ... God bless u boy .
@satishgarde1550
@satishgarde1550 3 часа назад
She just started speaking by 'I 'm so high'.
@ResidentReveler
@ResidentReveler 2 часа назад
😂
@babitapandey3754
@babitapandey3754 4 часа назад
❤❤😊😊
@Storytime_Official
@Storytime_Official 3 часа назад
She makes good points , for those who cant give up meat which is a lot , her option is a good option and she is being relaistic. Her methodology is better as going from 100 to zero is not possible ,people will not care .She understands humans are humans and animals are animals.
@davidformosa7626
@davidformosa7626 Час назад
She didnt make one good point!
@1994ravneet
@1994ravneet Час назад
Those who can't give up on animal meat can try and shift towards plant-based mock meat. Now that'll make a 100 to 0 jump. Killing is killing, there's no humane way of doing it, like arvind said.
@prakashrajagopal4521
@prakashrajagopal4521 3 часа назад
This shows the modern education. She is very admaant in proving her stupidity continuously but some sects of society are like that..we need to educate them
@RanjeetKumar-vc7jh
@RanjeetKumar-vc7jh 2 часа назад
At least she has an idea to reduce one factor of exploitation, Do u want to die in extreme pain?? What is better??
@pot8735
@pot8735 2 часа назад
She is more sane than vegans from the human health perspective.
@prakashrajagopal4521
@prakashrajagopal4521 34 минуты назад
@@pot8735 you keep thinking. Hardly...
@AadiHuBhai
@AadiHuBhai 31 минуту назад
​@@RanjeetKumar-vc7jh No , I just don't wanna die that's it !
@pot8735
@pot8735 43 секунды назад
@@prakashrajagopal4521 and u need to start thinking.
@dh1vya
@dh1vya 3 часа назад
i get what she's saying, she's talking about the ones who wouldn't go vegan just out of spite....those are the people who would say "no meet for you, thanks, MORE FOR ME!" ..... Her point, if I'am not mistaken is those kind of people are still going to kill, so for that she's imposing on this humane system. But there were people who were against women liberation, there were people against the abolish of slavery.... Every human rights movements had people who were against it.... No one brought forth humane ways of human exploitation for these people who won't change.... These kinds of people were not part of any movement.... similarly, head strong non-vegans, who are against it, care nothing about animals, they needn't be part of this Animal liberation movement. The compassionate like minded people understand veganism, and practice it, spreads the word, those are the ones we need, and SUCH PEOPLE ARE CHANGING. Like it or not, VEGANISM IS THE FUTURE.
@locksudoshin-h6m
@locksudoshin-h6m Час назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂 keep dreaming Dumbgan !!!!
@thelavangela
@thelavangela 3 часа назад
"There is no right way to do the wrong thing" 💯 "We cannot sanitize a violent action" 💯
@jaybolt100
@jaybolt100 3 часа назад
Anti-natalism is the solution to veganism
@VeganRevolution
@VeganRevolution Час назад
No compromises. With the asking of why not aim for less than Veganism I use archery as the example, yes you might miss the middle but if you aren’t even taught to aim for the middle then you miss the whole target
@surajpoudel3215
@surajpoudel3215 4 минуты назад
another point i would like to add is welfarism will lead to the same level of cruelty through slippery slope. Therefore veganism should be the only way ahead.
@albiorixsaturn3532
@albiorixsaturn3532 48 минут назад
Slavery was common in the olden days and was considered idealistic to abolish slavery. Something unthinkable back then. Today, it is that "ideal" world, where slavery is unacceptable and punishable by law. Realistically possible. When abolishment of slavery is possible in the human world, in a realistic sense, it would also be possible to abolish the animal agriculture. The word "ideal" does not exist. It keeps moving away from us as we progress.
@ajaymehra8839
@ajaymehra8839 3 часа назад
Hey Arvind... In the same way, there one more person who is also a vegan ed. winter he provided a speech with TEDx TALK and there 500k views... I'll just request you to make a speech with them TEDx TALK Which is also help us to enhance the numbers vegans.
@neerajaggarwal4689
@neerajaggarwal4689 46 минут назад
Her argument can be shattered in one line:- There are still some nerds out there who wants slavery back.
@DvaitAdvaitAdda
@DvaitAdvaitAdda 3 часа назад
How can one eating chicken or milk can be a animal right activist... people are like i love my dog and i dont love chicket and love eating chicken... i love cows but i also love milk , butter in pizza, milk tea... thats hypocrisy, scam, superstition, foolishness... Untill we take ourself as a higher being than animal , we can never see the reality...
@pot8735
@pot8735 2 часа назад
Yes,She is not a animal right activist but a human who is doing a good thing for humans and also healthy way for animals.
@DvaitAdvaitAdda
@DvaitAdvaitAdda 2 часа назад
@@pot8735 i dont think there can be any good way of killing innocent beings against their will. As a human we have options to eat plant based diet, now we are not in jungle or stuck in some island or desert where there is no option
@pot8735
@pot8735 Час назад
@@DvaitAdvaitAdda 🌱 based gonna cause prblm in the long run coz we are made to eat 🥩 thats why we crave it coz our digestive system is made to digest🥩..
@DvaitAdvaitAdda
@DvaitAdvaitAdda 48 минут назад
@@pot8735 please do some *unbiased* research , that might help you understand. That plant based diet is the only sustainable future if humans or all other beings are to survive for long, how many vegan athletes are there currently how animal farming is causing death of earth.
@RanjeetKumar-vc7jh
@RanjeetKumar-vc7jh 2 часа назад
There are 9 coastal states in india ,they all should stop fishing ac to arvind ,,it's OK,, but what is substitute ?? Is human is out of cruelty?? Why so extreme steps is needed , rather trying to reduce exploitation if we r going for zero animal cruelty world then I think it is idealistic thought for this century.
@DvaitAdvaitAdda
@DvaitAdvaitAdda 3 часа назад
One coomunity says " jhatka", other says " halal" and goat says i am no more... noone is seeing what is happening to the goat . Untill we see oneness in all beings its hard to make any real progress...
@RanjeetKumar-vc7jh
@RanjeetKumar-vc7jh 2 часа назад
At least she has an idea to eliminate one factor of exploitation, Idealistic persons understand it as she is promoting cruelty
@MrOutstandingtuber
@MrOutstandingtuber 3 часа назад
I think this girl is a non- vegetarian and she is in delusion that she is vegetarian and she wants an ethical way to eat her meat 🍖 without guilt... Can't blame her tho meat is delicious 😋.
@zenlightreiki
@zenlightreiki Час назад
Beautifully said 👏👏
@rushikeshkalwade9375
@rushikeshkalwade9375 Час назад
She was over smart.
@KekaSarma
@KekaSarma 3 часа назад
Thanks a lot❤
@comproprasad6438
@comproprasad6438 3 часа назад
Slavery was stopped because there were good enough machines to replace their work and many of these people can be used in a better way in society. But chickens hardly have any use for society and can be easily bred to produce more.
@isabellezablocki7447
@isabellezablocki7447 3 часа назад
Slavery was stopped through a very hard war here in the states. It was not because of machines. It was because people felt it was morally wrong to do it.
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
I can judge her that she's probably patriotic, anti-feminist, right wing & upper class orthodox just by this stance of her.
@nikhilshetty8291
@nikhilshetty8291 4 часа назад
I understand what she said..she is absolutely correct
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
She is correct but she is wrong too. Realistic world is actually non-existent. We can change vegetarians to vegans, but not meat eaters to vegans. Because they don't have compassion towards animals. India is 25% vegetarians so 25% Indian vegans is still a large population. Don't focus on carnists.
@ajaymehra8839
@ajaymehra8839 3 часа назад
In the same way, she was quite correct and I got the picture she painted, but she isn't entirely correct.
@TimePass-wi6by
@TimePass-wi6by 4 часа назад
Arivind can u plz come to nashik maharashtra?i am the only vegan in this city,we need more vegans and educate people about animal cruelty plz ,plz promote opening vegan restaurants in this city as I cant eat pizza burgers fries which arent vegan
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
Bruh stop eating junk. They're not our staple. Learn how to cook. Eat unprocessed whole food.
@jaybolt100
@jaybolt100 4 часа назад
💚🌍As Arvind cried in last video, “law of diminishing returns “, his videos are a failure now…❌ It’s time for Aravind to find a real job, bcoz evidently yt videos & donations are not helping him. Aravind thought he could make a fortune by capitalising the new trend - “VEGANISM”. But sadly, like any other vegan startup companies, his business too plummeted 😥 It’s time for vegans to make donations or share his video to ur family & friend to keep his videos trending… Or else, vegans will be losing Aravind to “BURN-OUT”…
@praneethmashetty591
@praneethmashetty591 4 часа назад
He's just getting started bro
@jaybolt100
@jaybolt100 4 часа назад
@@praneethmashetty591getting started to “burn out”? Yeah, he said that
@PunyHulk
@PunyHulk 4 часа назад
Chill bruh. His activism will continue. It just happens to be repetitive by giving college speeches. He's now shifting his activism to online through content creators. Social media has bigger audience than offline.
@AjithVaidik
@AjithVaidik 4 часа назад
Ridicule and Personal Abuse is the way of ignorant who have no subject-based arguments to make. If you have points against Arvind's arguments, could you make them decently?
@jaybolt100
@jaybolt100 4 часа назад
@@PunyHulk so, u don’t want to give him donations? Or u don’t want to share his videos with ur mom, dad, siblings, friends? What a self-centred vegan u r, that u can’t make donations to “SELFLESS VEGAN WARRIOR”? bcoz of selfish vegans like u, that we have very few vegan activists… make donations to keep them going
@Indianterrain-w7x
@Indianterrain-w7x 4 часа назад
Arvind fight for frog 🐸, earthworm, cow, cat😺 ,etc and not for his family 😂😂😂
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