Israel's F-35 vs Iran 

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Its not easy to fight a enemy you don't have enough info about fact remains Israel stands no chance against Iran only US will come to Aid & other allied countries but right now the world is too mult-polar to risk counter productive war like this one & US will gain nothing on this.

2:12 Not the stealth makes expensive the plane... Just check the price of the F-15EX... 2:40 Yes, and mostly inaccurate things...

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@@mohamedelmoussaoui5531 Yup agree

He's biased as fuck towards tye west it's obvious, if you can't see it it just means you agree with his bias.

@@xerogue well the west is more advanced technologicly, that can change when china rise

And not a shitty robot voice

@@Sedna063 I hate that shit!

He's always neutral and often criticises US policy, hardware, tactics etc.....

I also watch newsy for the same reason

@@gooner72 no I've heard some bogus info before from him on Iran, for example. The number of missiles is one that comes to mind. They have many many thousands of the short range Fateh type and hundreds of the larger Sejil and Shahab types. That's just one example that comes to mind.

@Peter Russellwhat were they gonna do - fly their jets halfway cross the world to convince the terrorists to give up? America was no where to be found when Osama bin Laden was trying to build nukes too, which resulted in Operation Opera.

@Peter Russell in the same place it has always been, in the middle east

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@@junkookbts1273 yeah I don't even know what the fuck they are talking about or how it's related to my comment. I'm grabbing popcorn tho

@@bamdad19996 , some idiot even mentioned Ronald Reagan.....lol I wouldn't be surprised that if in 5 minutes some other moron will go on about how Kim Kardashian's ass is fake and not natural.....watch !

@Drew Peacock It's interesting there are false positive and false negative detection signals, never mind failed tracking thereof. The Lightning II is a devilishly clever pocket rocket.

@Drew Peacock Trump was and is a populist to his core.

@@zykom1 Detection is one thing. Having accurate enough tracking info to fire upon and hit is a completely different matter.

@Drew Peacock By the time a fighter gets into range of the F35 which is BVR. What do you think will happen. You people make it sound like the F35 won't see them coming a million miles away. Talk to me after one gets taken out as you suggest. Until then I have 2 words, Prove it!

@Drew Peacock Are you a Brit?

If they were stealth their path wouldn't be known no mater how many times they used it. ECM are a flaw for stealth planes, they make normal planes being spotted sooner let alone the plane over which you have spent millions to make it almost invisible. RQ-4 has the same/even better ECM since it lacked maneuverability but still Iran shot it down.

@@itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242 "If they were stealth their path wouldn't be known no matter how many times" I don't know if you were aware but stealth doesn't make the plane invisible, you can still hear and see the aircraft

@@itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242 this comment shows a lack of understanding. ECM is only meant to break the enemy's potential for a good radar lock, forcing manual launch of SAMs which is ineffective. ECM however increases your visibly range by 2x. The path can be known even without the visible ECM pathing because of the multitude of missions flown prior can be traced by the enemy to begin with. Being spotted vs being targeted are two completely different things. Once you're spotted, you expect an air sortie which doesn't exist because in the case of the F-35s being supported by the F-22 would have already shot down the incoming aircrafts. Then lets say we have a combined strike group with F/A-18s and F/A-18G Growlers, F-22s, F-35s, F-16s, and F-15E or F-15EX. The most likely scenario is the F-35s penetrate enemy defenses and take out early warning and important fire control systems. F-22 supports the F-35s while also shooting down aircrafts at BVR. F-35s datalink with F-15EX and take out all enemy fighters BVR, F/A-18G is in-charge of scrambling enemy radar to confuse enemy on direction of attacks, numbers, and other ECCM (Electronic Counter Counter Measure, yes that s a thing). F-16s and F/A-18s and F-15Es are in-charge of delivering the mission package. In this scenario, an enemy like Iran would literally be obliterated because they can't even get a shot off. You can SEE but they can't fire. Even the S-300s and S-400s would have problems shooting down F-35s without proper targeting radars. F/A-18s can carry HARMs and shoot in the general direction of the radars blindly. This suppresses the enemy radar as turning on would risk a HARM locking onto the radar radiation. And say they do turn on and fire, given that they can land hits, the number of F-35s available would be replenished rapidly since they have been built to be mass produced. Capabilities combined with the ability to be mass deployed makes the F-35 almost omnipotent against low tech nations like Iran. But nations like China and Russia would have more ways to deal with it, although at a very high cost.

@@marcosburgos8415 Stealth doesn't make the plane invisible, it makes it harder to be spotted. The main use of stealth coating is that you don't have to fly low to avoid enemy radar so no one will be able to see and hear you(and of course thinner air up there has less drag) I only meant that phrase of "known path" doesn't match stealth, either they would never find it or they shoot it the very first time(if it gets too close radar can find it)

@@kerblingtime Thank you for the highly intelligent explanation. People forget about combined arms and focus on one narrow aspect as if they are supposed to work alone. Gulf War 1 is an obvious example although drones are going to really be a game changer. Have a great day Kerbling Time.

@William Jeff No he is Mexican

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@@viveliran7509 you are wrong... he is chinese.

for example the f15ex

Also arguing that the US in particular is putting a lot into stealth is strange. There isn’t a large power on the planet that isn’t currently spending billions developing new stealth aircraft or building them. The US just happens to have the most since they’ve been making them the longest.

what other secret technology do you think they have now?

​@@alf3071 No one knows. But if we stay with Israel, they had the Pereh tank since 1980, and it was a secret for over 30 years. It was armed with 12 Spike missiles with 25 km range. Since it was based on the old M60, it would be no suprise if they had a new variant based on the Merkava/Namer chassis. israswiss.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/43131209_1439566737824154_v0_h.jpg tankandafvnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/70696511.jpg And if we talk about aircraft, no one knew about the Stealth Hawk which was used during the Bin Laden raid. And according to Ben Rich (former chief of Lockheed Skunk Works) they're way, way ahead. Like 20-30 years. All behind locked doors until anything similar comes up from the enemy. They built some crazy stuff. Just look at the D-21 drone, which had its first flight in 1964. Had a speed of Mach 3.3 and a range of 5600km, and could fly autonomously (a pre programmed route) - and that isn't classified. Imagine what is.

Well, advanced hidden tech aside, it looks like USAF is going to diverge from high cost monolithic platforms in the not to distant future because it is unfeasible and to costly to develop and implement in a timely fashion. However, some of that hidden tech u guys are referring to did show up in the form of them announcing possibly a 6th gen prototype existing that was designed virtually not that long ago. Crazy times to b living in!

@@alf3071 6th gen fighters. Plus 5th gen trains with 4th gen in tandem to account for the low numbers. Their strategies are already aware of this. I used to talk to pilots everyday as i was a crew chief and launched them out. Was friends with a few as well since they were cool peeps with us.

@@guitarninjarick8179 not diverging it was already part of the plan.

They just used a simple trick with GPS guidance where you make the drone think it's landing at a US airbase and not an Iranian one.

nah, it was detected because it didnt have the accompanying jamming craft and flew in a well known position.

@@honkhonk8009 watch the interview by the commander that was manning the SAM battery

I've heard it stated as "No Battle Plan survives first contact with the enemy."

Hundreds of Iranians actually died,Btw Israel says nothing,Syrian Government and Syrian opposition did.

@@yakov95000 but you are claiming as if you have a first hand information instead what isreal claimed? We all know isreal sometimes they over stated the actual situation on the ground. If Iranian are dying like as isreal are claiming then what da hell are waiting to retaliate back or u think Iranians can't do so ? Bb have been lying about iran but still he can't fulfil his promise to attack iran what is he waiting for or is he waiting until when iran gets the bomb? Tell him if he wants to fight iran let him go to Iran itself instead going to bomb Syria . Syria is not iran and Iran is not Syria.

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Wouldn't the F-35 Countries in the Baltic Sea & Norway use their F-35s with Radar reflectors/Luneburg Lens, when used during peacetime, in order to avoid this?! You think they have not thought of this...

@@Kauppi2 what that?

@@mohamedelmoussaoui5531 It's a device or surface that reflects radiation (usually light) back to its source with minimum scattering. Every Steath plane uses this when they want to avoid hostile or regular radars from getting their radar signature or when flying during peace time/regular airspace, to make sure regular radars see their flightt path.The original comment did not consider this at all... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luneburg_lens. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroreflector

@@Kauppi2 thank you

@@Kauppi2 Yes, of course stealth planes have a stealth mode for combat missions calling for it, and a mode they use general flying. Some may have multiple levels of stealth configurable depending on the situation, and then of course there's loadout. Even still, the natural shape of these planes makes it hard to spot them sometimes. The B-2 is notorious for disappearing off air traffic control radar screens even when it's trying not to be stealthy. China proudly reported intermittently tracking some F-22s on patrol over the Pacific a while back, and those F-22s were carrying very unstealthy fuel tanks, showing China's radar systems their side not their stealthier front, and probably wanted China to see them since they were on a mission to show the flag, so to speak. Intermittently. They only were detected intermittently. Anyway, they've definitely thought about it, and try to change up the signature and hide what the plane is truly capable of, but in a real war they'll be so much jamming and anti-radiation missiles and decoy drones flying about it's hard to imagine any air defense system is going to have an easy time of it even if they have clean data on the real thing. The idea that a single plane is going to go up against a single radar system in some lab-conditions 1v1 is absurd. Most real wars, the defending countries keep their radar systems off so as not to become targets, and the radars best able to detect stealth planes are big and immobile and easily destroyed in the first few hours. Stealth is mainly for surprise attacks at the outset of a conflict and doesn't matter much one way or another after that. The US likes to maintain first strike capability, so it makes sense from that standpoint, but I think it's obvious by now that the F-35 is trying to do too much and other specialized weapon systems can do everything it's designed to do, but better. Stealthy cruise missiles, stealthy drones, they're going to have much more optimized profiles because they don't need to dogfight and keep a person alive on the inside. 99% of the F-35s going to other countries are going to only fly in training, and the other 1% will be interception of civilian aircraft straying off course because the pilot had too much to drink at the airport bar or got distracted looking at his iPad. The stealth is totally useless for them. It's probably a good thing they didn't get the good coatings. Besides the security risk, it'd be a complete waste of money.

Nah man, its actually E-RUN

Dude you should watch a MadTV skit about iRan and iRack.

@Mehrdad Kia youre right, my bad i didnt read his comment correctly, thanks for the info

@@DanielK1213th the iRaq is on fire!

How did I escape Iraq? I ran

But did you cook it with a F-35 radar?

An OK technique for starting a war, but not a viable way to avoid losing.

In my opinion it's an F4 Phantom bomb truck and an F22. That's cheaper to produce than an F22 with a bit less stealth capabilities but more boom like the F4.

@@wooflessdelta Yeah I think it's primarily focused on the air to ground mission. It's ATA Capabilities are something else with Avionics suite.

Actually a lot less. Like 71 million when you average the cost of 478 planes over 34 billion and that includes the more expensive B model.

79 million now. Cheaper than euro fighter, Rafael, f-16 block 70 and saab Gripen. The beauty of mass production and economy of scale.

@@libertyprime2921 damn......but where tf are we gonna get the pilots?

@@K.I.A22 you train them like any other aircraft

@@libertyprime2921 isn't there a shortage of fighter pilots?

A well balanced comments - in my amble opinion.

They wouldn’t attack Azerbaijan directly as this would result in a war with turkey

@@tuxlinux5565 I do not know direct or indirect. But Iran is forced to strike at Azerbaijan in a way that none of its neighbors have thought of military cooperation with Israel for years. Even if has to be involved with Turkey for a while. Because if the answer is not heavy, this Act will be repeated.

@@ira5823 you’re right. However since turkey will be involved it’s very unlikely that they strike Azerbaijan.

@@tuxlinux5565 No country will go to war if there is no benefit. Turkey supported Azerbaijan in the last war because of the gas pipeline from Azerbaijan to Turkey and the liberation from the leverage of Iran and Russia in the field of energy. Of course, Turkey has always wanted to invade Armenia and has committed a great genocide against them in history. But the destructive power of Iran and its allied forces is so great that Saudi Arabia, with all its weapons, is now engaged in an erosive war because of Iran's support for the Houthis. Turkey's military power is the size of the invasion of Iraq and Syria.

Aren't 20% of Iranians ethnically Azeri?

Yea that is awesome! I've always said they would make a SDB-ER with a booster on the back. Instead of 4 per rack, just 2, but they'd have extremely long ranges. And Spice 250 is pretty much the same as SDB II. They are also making a JSOW-ER, similar but larger, and much larger warhead

@@CovertCabal The stated range for the Spice 250 ER was 150km. The mockup shown has somewhat similar dimensions to the regular Spice 250, so maybe you could put 4 of them in a rack.

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Thats why they were lost for 40 years in Egypt.

F-35 need to ask some question from RQ-4

Russia has zero reasons to shoot down Israeli planes.

@@zoka7108 S-400 in Syria is not controlled by Russians. It was controlled by Syrians so they have the authority to shoot it down but they cannot because they cant see it.

@ It's reported the S400 arrived in Syria along with Russian troops and equipment to support Syria. Not to be operated by Syria. That suggests the S400 was defending Russian personal and positions.

@ No. All S-400 systems in Syria are owned and operated by Russians. All Syria has are a couple of old S-300 variants.

To target a missile it needs to be detected. The thing is, it was detected at 8 miles away and the lock failed twice. 8 miles is almost point blank range.

Well, actually, yeah, they are. For the price of a stealth plane, you can have 5 times as many extremely capable aircraft in your inventory. What's the old saying: quantity has a quality all its own.

@@hot2warm except no. Lot 13 of the USAF's F-35 purchase pegged it $80 million per aircraft. Name me what "extremely capable" aircraft you can get at 5 units for 80M

He already pointed out that israel didn't flow over iran

@@mohamedelmoussaoui5531 no, he pointed out that it’s unlikely, not impossible

What do you mean? Its fairly common knowledge.

@@lastword8783 The ermgence of gunpowder and guns was a much more gradual and much more global process than most people think. To say "China invented gunpowder" is a gross oversimplification.

@@heinrichwonders8861 its arguable that its oversimplified but it is true that the chinese were first and that it then over time went westwards to the middle east and europe with lots of innovations made to it along the way. I dont think its accurate to say its a "gross" oversimplification.

You mean "The Synagogue of Satan"?

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whats the sourse for that? just curious

@@deanboy2416 quora ... educated guess based on f35 supposed RCS and supposed detection range if the irbis e as I gather.

@@kresbes7240 ye, I reckon thats a bit too many "supposed" to be stating it like a fact (Im talking about the OP here). RCS is a giant can of worms. Americans claim one thing, Russians calim something completely different. I saw somewhere that Americans claimed the RCS of the Su-57 to be around 0.001 m2, whereas the russians put it at 0.2-0.3 m2 (I can try to find the source, though it wont be a terribly reputable one). Point is, that idk who to believe. Gut tells me that the Russians are lying less, since if they had actually achieved an RCS significantly below 0.01 m2 they'd be calling US out for BS when they say that the 57 isnt as stealthy as the 22 (which I dont doubt myself). But my point is that with stealth planes, RCS is too secret and too much of a selling point for them to just disclose it, so I reeeeeealy dount that the RCS of the F-35 used in the 45 km estimate is correct.

@@kresbes7240 going off Irbis-E wikipedia data (ye, trustworthy source again, but whatever, its just for lolz anyway) a 45km detection range would put the F-35 RCS at roughly 0.0003 m2, which is stealthier than the Russians claim the Su-57 to be. I somehow find tha validity of this calculation (based off a line of best fit of wikipedia detection ranges) doubtful.

@@deanboy2416 let's say if the Russians lying is proportional to American lying that would be about correct. To be blunt the no escape zone of the amraam is 20 km. Which doesn't mean that the plane has no chance to escape. I don't belive the f35 can hide at that distance. Neither from the radar nor from the IRST. Taking into account the superior kinectic performance of the su 35 and the quantity of missles i would say f35s r dead meat in that encounter.

awacs is one big beacon for long strike missile. when at war, those awacs will be one of the first asset to be strike alongside giant x band over the horizon radar.

And also not following the same flight path everytime like the F-117s did.

@Wtf New Well, this happened with the F117. They shot one down and the US scrapped their entire fleet. Sure, they said it was due to them having design flaws and other problems that had nothing to do with one of them being shot down....but that's just likely trying to save face. F117s worked to great effect against Iraq in the first Gulf War and dropped a lot of ordnance on Serbia before and after that one plane got shot down.

But where to refuel ?

@@inlikearefugee5194 in the air...

@@_____Justin______ Whose airspace ?

@@inlikearefugee5194 probably Iraq

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Of course

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Ye my country sure ain't paying over 100 million dollars each...

@@lemsdk17 canada needs a interceptor. The new f 15 is your best bet

@@johnmiller9681 my country are buying f35 but they don't cost over 100 million dollars each. We pay 75ish million dollars each the last i checked

But the time f-35 is in its prime, it can be useless

They don't even have to waste their own long range missile arsenal. The just shoot them from hamas and hezbollah and bases in Syria

f-35 can't go through the state borders of these countries. Fast missiles can. That's why stealth aircrafts are useless against powerful countries with developed missile's technologies.

Su57 +Su30 +Su35: Satisfying iran's air force needs.

It means that if you want to attack someone you will be also destroyed. What's the point of stealth aircrafts then?

That doesn't seem to have stopped Israel from bombing Iranian/Hezbollah assets in Syria, at will, for years now. By most accounts, the S400 appears to have been turned off. After all, that way the S400 can't be destroyed by Israeli SEAD missions, and thus Russia can continue to sell the S400 as a valid system.

Honestly that would just be a bloodbath of a video! We sink so little into our military it’s pathetic, yet no political party has any interest in upgrading our airforce and navy. Our troops are some of the best in the world but our equipment is just garbage!

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@@rick7424 Honestly it’s true but sad. NATO recommends spending 2% of a nations GDP on national defence. Canada spends half of that or just over 1% of our GDP. It’s a real issue