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"Israelites", "Jews", the Prophets, and Paul (Dr. Jason Staples enters the Dojo!) 

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In this most-requested episode, Associate Professor of New Testament and NC State (and fellow pop-culture nerd!) Dr. Jason Staples joins us in the Dojo to talk about his recent books which are the culmination of 20 years of work on the question of "Israel" and the various ways that concept was defined within 2nd Temple Judaism...as well as how the Apostle Paul uses it in Romans 9-11, which many Christians miss entirely.
Jason’s books, articles, blog, and other podcast appearances, are all available at www.jasonstaples.com
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@sishrac
@sishrac 12 дней назад
It's wonderful to find a scholar verifying what the Lord revealed to some of us who asked to understand these matters in Deut. 32: 8 - 9, Hosea 1, about all Israel, the fullness of the Gentiles, etc.
@BiteSizeBible1
@BiteSizeBible1 7 дней назад
Love Dr. Staples' work! Great interview.
@1gtrman1
@1gtrman1 2 дня назад
fantasic discussion, well defined, biblically sound. I subscribed. Thank you.
@davidcoleman3250
@davidcoleman3250 Месяц назад
Can’t love this conversation enough! Thank you!
@johnsonc8
@johnsonc8 20 дней назад
Late to comment (just realized I didn’t see the last 15m), but I just wanted to say thanks for having Staples on. As a fellow NC guy, love to see my neighbors getting a chance to appear on the Dojo.
@Iguathor
@Iguathor Месяц назад
Thank you! Thank you! Certainly some of the most innovative and important work to come along in a while. I resonated completely with the observation that these are concepts that were somehow “intuitive” to me as a reader of the Scriptures, but is nice to get the scholarly research to undergird the instinct. Will be getting and recommending Jason’s books and website.
@missinglink_eth
@missinglink_eth Месяц назад
Fantastic interview. Both books are on my amazon list.
@Daegdon
@Daegdon Месяц назад
You provide a Premier Biblical Studies education, with a plethora of lucid insights and resources. Gratitude for your Ministry! BTW... is "Smell Me" a euphemism?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo Месяц назад
The Greek text is 2 Corinthians 2:15-16 www.zazzle.com/2corinthians_2_15_16_greek_t_shirt-235974035132471904
@DanOrcutt723
@DanOrcutt723 Месяц назад
Hey, J-M, thank you! 🫎🌞🐻
@saifsaad201286
@saifsaad201286 Месяц назад
The word ( Esky ) means ( from the mother ). This means that the owner of this surname uses the family name of a woman who immigrated from ME to Europe, meaning that they belong to immigrant women who married Western men, and they continue to use the family name of their immigrant grandmothers to prove their origins and Eastern affiliation. By the way, Benjamin Netanyahu's real name, Malkowsky, is similar to the family name of former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. This means that Netanyahu’s grandmother, whose family name bears this name, is a cousin of this prime minister, and she had previously immigrated to the West. This name goes back to a large tribe in Iraq and the Middle East in general, and it is a common name there. and Yes, they are in fact Mizrahi, as is the case with most residents of the south of Iraq. Of course, the word Mizrahi is a second name for the word gypsy, so...
@mtndesert7891
@mtndesert7891 Месяц назад
Loved this interview. Just wow! I hope you have him on more often. His knowledge is outstanding. Out of curiosity, what religious affiliation is Dr. Staples?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo Месяц назад
I'm not sure. You'd have to ask him.
@estevenn_
@estevenn_ Месяц назад
Really enjoyed this!
@dunk_law
@dunk_law Месяц назад
Staples is not treading water. I like his books much.
@gregoryrice9998
@gregoryrice9998 Месяц назад
Amazing how we can be hyper literate and hypoc literate simultaneously.
@HERObyPROXY
@HERObyPROXY Месяц назад
KOTOR definitely is one of the best video games I’ve ever played and one one the best things done for Star Wars.
@bernardware3190
@bernardware3190 Месяц назад
Do we need to read his first book in order to fully understand his second book?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo Месяц назад
Not unless you need to be convinced that Jewish views of the identity of "Israel" were not monolothic during the 2nd Temple period.
@matthewmencel5978
@matthewmencel5978 Месяц назад
a number of these ideas are familiar with me, as I am involved in the Messiianic/Hebrew Roots movement where Two House theology is a thing. I'll note that Dispensationalism (at least Classical Dispensationalism) IS a soft form of Supersessionism/Replacement theology. And that the two have literally the SAME presuppositions that "Ethnic/National" Israel and "The Church" are two different people groups.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo Месяц назад
Yes, that is discussed specifically in the video I mentioned at the end of this one and linked in the description.
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
By the time Paul wrote about "The Jews," it was during the Kingdom of the Yahudim, Judah. At this point, Northern Israel is not in the picture, the setting is in Judea and Jerusalem. So Israel is not "Jews" alone, it's the 12 Tribes or the descendants of the 12 Sons of Jacob. This all goes back to the Blessings and Curses of Deuteronomy 28-29, and then the big Prophecy everyone overlooks.... Deuteronomy 30... The reversal of the Curses, the remnant of the 12 Tribes return to loving YHWH while living in the land of their captivity, *no one being sent down from heaven to deliver a message of salvation, nor overseas* because the word is near them, in their mouth to love YAH and keep the commandments and He would regather them back to the land to live out the Blessings. It would also help to define what "Gentile" means, because it just means "people, nations." Considering the Tribes are scattered into the Nations (gentiles), they will be called out from among the nations to come back home.
@sishrac
@sishrac 12 дней назад
Those called out from among the nations are called Christians.
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
The Samaritans, at least one of the Spokesperson Abood Cohen, shared his DNA and it was 99% Canaanite. Interestingly, Dr. Kipp Davis (Scholar of the Hebrew Old Testament and Dead Sea Scrolls) believes the Torah originated with the Samaritan Israelites and they still make copies using Ancient Hebrew. They also learn to read, write, and speak Ancient Samaritan Hebrew. The Samaritan Israelite Torah matches more closely to the Dead Sea Scrolls compared to the Masoretic text (which was finalized in 1000 CE). We have inherited a Jewish/Judaic Narrative, it's worth looking into the Samaritan Israelite's side of thr story because they reject the Old Testament except for their version of the Torah. Also interesting that Paleo Hebrew is also Phoenician which included Spain, North Africa, and parts of Israel. I would love to see some DNA evidence tying Modern day "Jews" to the land.
@sishrac
@sishrac 12 дней назад
People are so mixed by now that it is rather absurd to track genealogies unless it's done just for the fun of it. 99% Canaanite sounds incredulous. As for the versions of the Torah or even the whole Christian Bible, read any version relying on the Holy Spirit, the same one that inspired the original writing. He will provide a true understanding.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Месяц назад
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below? Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the RU-vid videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
@shayalynn
@shayalynn Месяц назад
And let’s talk about the identity of the harlot of the book of Revelation.. how are we saints supposed to be expecting what’s going to happen without knowing the identity of the harlot
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Месяц назад
@@shayalynn It is the same city identified as the harlot in the Book of Jeremiah. Mat 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Rev 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
If Paul was looking for Gentiles, I find it interesting that he went to preach at synagogues.
@sishrac
@sishrac 12 дней назад
The early Gentiles who converted were God-fearing ones who went to the synagogues where Paul preached.
@PrescottJohnson-gfh
@PrescottJohnson-gfh День назад
louis feldman's "jews and gentiles in the ancient world", gives the evidences of the 2 categories of gentiles in diaspora synagogues for more than 200 years before jesus. the obvious, proselytes, gentiles who intent on converting to judaism and were "in training". and the gd-fearers, heaven sympathizers, heaven fearers (different names in different place and times), and these were gentiles who rejected their ancestral religions and its practices, and "worshipped the sky as do the jews". and different traditions existed place to place, and it appears that this may have led to the tosefta oultining some sort of "gentile obligations" in the second century. or something like that.
@PrescottJohnson-gfh
@PrescottJohnson-gfh День назад
oddly, feldman and similar academics hold to the view that the gd fearers in acts ARE NOT the same as the gentiles discussed in his (and other's) books. which i find completely unconvincing and can only conclude that because acts, as a "religious" history of sorts, cannot be trusted. an assumption on my part. but if acts read within this knowledge of history and culture, does explain how cornelius became the "exemplar" of "whom among the gentiles" gd had "made clean" (re. peters vision). and peter acknowledges that cornelius was ALREADY accepted by gd, because he knew from the day he spent with cornelius' servants and secratary, who were also "gd fearers" who they were. that's the conversation i would have liked to witness! judean peter probably heard about these gentile "unicorns" and thought them mythical...
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
"What Paul is announcing through the spirit?" Please read Deuteronomy 13 and Deuteronomy 30. Ok, I realize you have to use Paul and the New Testament because of what they said, but why completely ignore what YHWH and 'Moses' said back in the Torah to what was actually established?
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
Why aren't the prophets being challenged? Did we forget the warning in the Torah of Deuteronomy 13? Is "divorce" listed as part of the Curses in Deuteronomy 28? The reason it doesn't apply to the Jews, is because you're reading their side of the story which is seriously biased and full of Torah violations.
@dannykoop
@dannykoop 27 дней назад
Was blown away by the existence of modern day, non-Jewish, Torah-observant Samaritans who still worship at Mount Gerizim like the ones in Jesus' day. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samaritans
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
Yeah, they have a different side of the story. We got a Judean Narrative
@divinityofblackness6330
@divinityofblackness6330 9 дней назад
why are you wearing a t-shirt that says "smell me"? 🤣
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 9 дней назад
@@divinityofblackness6330 look up the Greek text on it. 😉 www.zazzle.com/2corinthians_2_15_16_greek_t_shirt-235974035132471904
@estar1277
@estar1277 Месяц назад
Please do consider changing your music. It is spooky!!
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo Месяц назад
@@estar1277 nope.
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
I am still baffled though, that Dr. Staples isn't using the Torah to establish who Israel is...why start with the New Testament? Why look to see what the schools of thought think? Why not go to the First Mention of Israel? Israel is a name... Jacob was named Israel. Thus, think of it as a Surname. The Sons of Jacob aka Israel or Israelítes, is a family name. Jacob had 4 baby mamas too. So why are we avoiding using the Torah as the foundation?
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 19 дней назад
@@SopranoJessi his entire first book is about that. His second book focuses on how *Paul* speaks of "Israel" in Romans...which is what I most wanted to discuss with him, since a LOT of things happened after Torah that made Jews and Christians alike have to wrestle with the question of "Israel." But we can only cover so much in a single episode, and Jason is a Pauline scholar, so that's where we focused. I recommend you check out his first book for more.
@lemegipto9251
@lemegipto9251 Месяц назад
So much neediness 😂
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo Месяц назад
Learn to spell, sucka! It's "neRdiness"! 😅
@julieosmondson5180
@julieosmondson5180 Месяц назад
@@DiscipleDojo😂😂
@lemegipto9251
@lemegipto9251 4 дня назад
Ha, just saw this a month later 😂. I was like who wrote this, lol, me!
@SopranoJessi
@SopranoJessi 19 дней назад
Paul is Balaam, trying to get Israel to curse themselves by leading them into Idolatry and placing another elohim before YHWH.
@DiscipleDojo
@DiscipleDojo 19 дней назад
@@SopranoJessi obviously, we who are Christians completely disagree with that charge and think it is a woeful misreading of Paul.
@saifsaad201286
@saifsaad201286 Месяц назад
The word ( aravi ) is ( alavi ) they are the Levites themselves. These jews are just a religious sect, not an origin, and not a race. The Arabs are the original. And I'll give you a hint: Saudi Arabia is not Arabia or the Arabs
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