It’s Real. The Dust Moto Alpha. // Test Ride 

Getting closer .. off the shelf, well known & tunable suspension is a big step forward ! Now if they can just get a 30-35 mile range & keep it comparatively light - they'll really have something.

i donno what people are thinking .... if their is no sound no normal people will want to go watch .....this will not become a thing for at least 20 years in motocross or supercross .............think if nascar went electric ...not gonna happen

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These look pretty good tbh i'd love one for my channel just not many places to ride them

@@hackmasterHQ Just signed up for the Next 100 so that one was still open today 2/24/24. Hope I am not a sucker but I love this things potential and made a huge wad of cash when I sold my early reservation Rivian pickup so am taking a chance.

A Whole pack of them is gonna be wild sounding though 🤣

But it sure ain't as cool as a pack of two strokes tearing down the line

To me it sounds like a Barbie car you would buy your daughter at age 6. I guess the little she-boyz need a bike too. Maybe you boyz could give ea. other some backrubs after a couple hard laps in the mud 😂

Damn! My lgtbq score just dropped about 50 points after that last comment.

@@mattmatt591 I love 2 strokes, but there's things that you just can't get away with riding a 2 stroke compared to an electric? If electric means the difference between riding and not riding, then I'm going to choose an electric over a 2 stroke just because I need to drive 3 fking hours away and hundreds of kilometres just to ride a 2 stroke FFS! So 2 stroke as much as I love the sound and power, is dropping down my list because it's becoming an unridable machine these days! Not because of the limitations of fear vs balls of steal.....but because you put a target on you by authorities! The one thing that used to terrified me was the thought of being on my Husky CR250 being chased through the bush by police on trail bikes and my bike just snap eating a spark plug on the spot! FFS 2 modern strokes literally destroy spark plugs more than any combustion motor I know of? Oh did I mention I'm a turbo rotary owner as well? Yeah my Husky put my fking 13B to shame on plug eating contest! And I don't mean "fowling a plug" (that would suggest I rode it out of power band and like 18:1 oil ratio or some shit?) nope this animal would fry the spark plug completely dead never ever gonna revive no matter what you do to the plug. I literally had to carry 2 spare spark plugs with me if I went on a trail ride that put me more than 5kms from car and trailer? Fk that haha I started to hate my 2 stroke merely because of how many spark plugs it would munch and consume! It went like a bat out of hell, and I'd flap of the handle bars like a national flag.... .but fk no not again, not a Husky anyway! I was told the amount of plugs it was consuming was normal expect behaviour for a modern day 2 stroke? I told who ever said that that they are Ludacris thinking that's acceptable just because of the power output the bike was making? Also going hotter or colder plugs made no difference other than the length of time between plugs being shorter or longer? The bike would literally melt the connection inside the ceramic/porcelain and no more spark what so ever!

can i have 100 bucks

Yeah, as a more casual rider, the Varg is way outa my league in terms of performance and price. So something like the Dust Moto seems to be way more appropriate for a mere mortal such as myself.

this!! buying parts online and making your own frame/plastics is the completely wrong end of development

That tech will be innovated with autos first. I doubt a little start up is going to blow us away with battery tech. Sick looking bike tho, right?

Did Chat GPT write this?

Did Chat GPT write this?

Did Chat GPT write this?

You can make those changes when you design and build yours. 😊

Sprocket shaft placement is fine if you consider suspension sag with rider

if i understand correctly, the front sprocket should actually be slightly lower than the swingarm pivot which gives an anti squat effect under harsh acceleration

I think they know exactly what they doing.

You are correct!@@Noonenaught

you dont need to build it yourself i guess

I'm a casual off-road motorcyclist, so I'm actually interested in how it performs on the track because I'd like a 'jack of all trades' bike that's sufficient for recreational trail _and_ MX riding.

Keep in mind, this is the first prototype, They need to get the kinks out and its much easier to chase down a pro to get the first two rides in on a track! This thing is designed and built with 100% trail riding in mind. The core group is very open about their builds and trust me, you will see it on the trail in real conditions soon. This thing will not be released without seeing many miles on the trail first.

Enduros? The battery tech is nowhere near the point of leaving sight of the truck. So for now it’s only practical for the motocross track…and even that is debatable.

American manufacturer for one. I'm pretty sure it puts out more power as well. I also know for fact the DUST guys won't make KTM's mistake of using a dual battery system (one for the ignition system and one for the motor) which often goes dead, so EVEN when your main battery is charged, the ignition battery is dead ... 😢

Freeride is 245 lbs and lacks hp. This promises a much higher power to weight ratio. Hope they don't blow it.

@jimji2774 I bet if they achieve the low weight it'll be worth a battery too small to be useful

They said shooting for 200 lbs.

Ultra Bee sized.

Go to 9:28 in. He describes all the initial Alpha prototype specs.

They are shooting for 200 lbs.

Nah, bro. Once you get used to using your left hand for the rear brake, it's superior. I swap between ICE and electric (w/ rear hand brake) all the time. It's really not that jarring. But I also ride mountain bikes, so I'm used to hand braking for the rear.... BUT in North America, the brakes are flipped, so my front brake is left, and rear brake is right. But even then I find that going back and forth between ICE, electric moto, and MTB is fine. Your brain adapts pretty quickly to each bike... at least mine does, lol

Sit around and listen to the generator for hours on end…and then ride for minutes on end! 😂

Exactly.

You’ll be riding these soon enough and pretending like you were onboard the whole time.

@@editname4279 You'll own nothing and be happy.

Just bring your F150 Lightning and plug it in to the truck !!!!

Generator

Not everyone wants a 270lb bike and no option to swap batteries.

The video editor should've left that out probably... That's just normal brand new bike brake-in stuff, nothing wrong with the bike just tuning stuff for the bikes maiden ride

@@smithrod63 your probably right - “here’s the bike Mr.Hill we just broke it in for you”

Currently at 35.5"

That depends on gearing…as per all chain driven motorcycles.

It will be a hot-swappable battery. The website currently says it will have a 3.5 kwh battery.

This ain’t a stark competitor, this is sized to compete with the ktm freeride E and the surron ultrabee, being sub 200lb range.

For Stark competition we will have to wait for the Flux Primo.

This will be a high quality version or competition to the Surron Ultra Bee. I have a Segway X-260 (Surron Lite Bee). I have spent more money on it than buying the Alpha Stark Varg. That doesn't count the over 100 hours of wrenching to get it where it is today. Anyone wanting an Ultra Bee should seriously consider buying this instead save the wrench time for ride time.

Tons of this info on their Instagram link. This includes comparisons.

@@lboughto Yep. I am approaching the cost of the Dust Moto with the money I have put into my Surron Light Bee. I was previously considering getting the Ultra, but as you said, it makes more sense to just go for the Dust. And today I joined the First100!

​@@jasper_of_puppetsI finally got my Stark Varg makes my KTM Freeride EX-C feel like a kids toy! Its an amazing machine! The future for electric bikes is bright 🌞!

@@lboughto Nice! Can't wait for my Dust Moto! I thought about getting a gas dirt bike, but I'm kinda over the maintenance and mess. Simplicity and ease of use with electric is amazing!

~ 10 million afrikaanized bees on repeat.

Probably keeps the sprung \ rotating mass much lighter by having a lighter tire ... Less tire sidewall is less weight

19" is for MX. They will have 18" option available for those who prefer trails.

25 kw peak output is equivalent to 33.53 hp.

indeed @@longrove5710

And the bike is light and nimble... Almost no riders need more power, the bikes have the power, the rider is nearly always the limiting factor... But now pretty in reserve is not a bad thing though I guess (except maybe for your tire budget)

It's going to have 35hp of peak power - or 26kw. And 500nm of torque.

The Dust Moto Alpha is most likely a 125 two-stroke 250 4-stroke class bike.

Looking at the website, they say the target specification are for a full size moto, with 26KW/35HP peak power, with a 3.2kWh minimum battery, with a 10K$ MSRP. If you need more, go with Varg. Honestly, this is likely the sweet spot for many existing and new riders out there, the ones not racing-focused who just like to have fun. Can't wait to see the production model. I just wish they can squeeze as much battery as they can.

yeah, i dont think it will be practical on the track but i wonder the price and if it can compare to a surron

​​@@realkidcarter I think this will eat a SurRon's lunch. I've spent time riding with the e bike guys on the ultra bee and it would get hosed by an 85 supermini. The ultra bee is cool, but I actually had a chance to talk to Colin at dust and this video confirms the kw output of the alpha shame's everything out there (except the varg) at this point - especially since the bike looks light and small still!

yeah but thats not the point, its going to cost 10k a varg being way better for 2 or 3k more, and it being more expensive than a 2024 250, its not practical what so ever. it has an 85 rear shock .... and by comparing to surron i was wondering if people could use them the same was as a surron if they were similar price but they are not and i think its over priced and not worth it. get a brand new 250 or a varg for that price@@smithrod63