It could be GREAT! - Cities Skylines 2 Traffic Management Tools 

They'll be releasing a full price DLC to add that functionality.

@@Poppa_Capinyoaz I don't think they'll release anything like that, their developers have got no time for it.

@@skayt35 It's paradox as their publisher... soo it's not off the table they have plenty of times released features in paid DLC a bit after release.

There will be DLCs and I see that they will provide this at some time. Seeing how much they added to the base game of CS1 I would bet that they will not lock it in a DLC, but release it as a free update.

@@zyhgar25 Yeah, they've provided free updates for CS1 for base game and it's DLCs. Tollbooth were added as a free update, also new vehicles to assign to bus, tram, trolleybus, ferry lines.

TM:PE2 anyone?

Knowing Paradox. It'll be a paid DLC.

Yea I agree. I always think the same when I see goofy things in a game... like "No one thought about this?" but hey it happens, overall they made what seems to be a well rounded successor, but yes hopefully they add per lane to all tools. It'd just make so much more sense.

@@TheBodiesInTheWaterBeckons That's very unfair. I can't think of a time in CS1 where they EVER released improvements to the base functionality of the road tools as a paid DLC, they were ALL free updates

Not saying we don't want this as an extra. But seeing how traffic behaves much smarter I don't think what specific lanes do are gonna be such a big deal as in CS1 where you sometimes had to really force lanes to just sort our traffic. Here, yes the lanes might do too much but the cars won't get in each other's way it seems.

TMPE would be absolute gamechanger on this ew game :-D

Yeah, I'm just as thrilled about the launch of TMPE 2 as I am about the game itself

@@taffypride1983 So according to CS2 is only an ew game because TMPE isn't in the game? I guess you considered Cities: Skylines an ew game when it released back in 2015? Or maybe you talked about Cities: Skylines II already back in 2015?

@@automation7295 I can't really speak for them, but maybe they typo'd on "new"?

Also removal of parking spaces

@@ralalbatross Add trees, grass, or wide sidewalks. This disables street parking.

Welcome to Houston!

@@381delirius Wooo H-Town

cs1 4+2 roads work great

Agree with your observation. I assume as long as a lane is available they will be able to make the turn. In 4+2 you'd probably get a left, left straight, straight right and right turn lane. Only other option probably would be left, left, straight right, straight right, which does not sound safe for both most right lanes.

@@Damic_Damic well it depends whether its connecting to a 4 lane or 2 lane road, if its connecting to a 2 lane road theres no reason to have 2 turning lanes as there is only 1 lane to turn into to begin with, but yeah if its 4 lanes all sides then yeah it would prob do smth like that

you can add lanes afaik

@@LiLBitsDK can you? I think you can replace with other roads, and when the new road as more lanes yes... that's kinda adding a lane but not really.

@@LiLBitsDK He means like maybe changing the direction of the lanes, so turning that 3+2 into 4+1 or 3+2 with median would be nice. I don't think that's technically possible so hopefully considering how many road options we already have, means we'll get even more in DLC. I need a asymmetric road with medians DLC from what I can tell.

@@alexitosworldit is sorta "new lane" since you decide if it should shift the road left/right or keep it centered on the original road so you can put the new lane to either side just as if you added a new lane

I was pretty shocked that you can't do something that simple (directing lanes individually).

tmpe is still neccesary

Fair point. I’ll be running lane arrows asap!

Realistic style traffic (which tey will change lane to right to known reason) could be good and bad at the same time. I think for ai is better to be on the opposite site of the road, bcs they dont plan to use intersection and they try to save his right lane for a guys who will stuck in traffic.

Well good thing the console version has been delayed lol. I feel like PC players will kind of be beta testers.

@@Distress. Good point! I hope they still do as much as possible and add crucial easy-to-add features

​@@lucm2708Looking at CS1 I am 100% certain they will add additional features like that in the future. And even if they dont/or at least until they do, there will be mods like TM:PE2.0 or something that make it possible

Not really. It adds a lot of clutter to the UI which isn't immediately useful to most people. TMPEs UI for it was absolutely atrocious and would result in a ton of visual spam

@@ralalbatross All they need to do though is swap the no left turns or no right and instead make it so they add a left turn or a right and right clicking removes them

Those weren't vanilla, though?

@@adamcetinkent no they weren't vanilla. I'm just saying that is the standard that should have been implemented. Full control and very simple to use. Beautifully done

Roundabouts are suddenly a functionally excellent and easily implemented solution. God help us 🤣

I totally agree! We are off to a great start, and things can only improve from here.

Great question. Not as well i would bet

What do the different sizes of roundabout actually achieve? Just slowing the traffic down more via a larger diversion?

​@@adamcetinkentI'm guessing it allows more cars onto the roundabout so it can handle busier traffic without clogging up. I haven't seen any busy traffic in the videos I've seen of this game though.

I like the idea of paving shoulders... also the center pieces we should be able to adjust much more with grass(in game) with concrete (in game) with chevrons/lines/not in game) etc. etc. and the trees should have the option for "round dirt around them" instead of either concrete og grass all over

Perhaps one can just add footpath parallel to the highway manually? Should be good enough for most players.

@billyswong pedestrian paths aren't supposed to be next to high-speed roads. I feel like it would definitely add some unrealistic waking path problems lol

You can actually make larger nodes depending on where you connect a road. It can be a full node diameter back on any side. Not as clean as NC, but just as functional

Per lane management is worth having if one wants to make anything close to a real world intersection solution.

Perhaps this'd be good for, say, more complex (semi-)motorway interchanges, but I'm not sure for just standard roads (Wonder how many might try to re-create "Spagetti Junction" in Birmingham (where the M6, A38(M) and A38 meet)

Not at all in my experience. Do you have an example that matches either of my 4 way intersections featured here?

The amount of lanes in the roundabout depends on the number of lanes on the approaching roads.

​@@YUMBL That's something I suspected. Good too, since two 1+1 lane roads crossing wouldn't need more than 1 lane in the roundabout itself in most cases. Still though, having an override for it wouldn't be a bad thing. For example, my favorite kind of roundabout involves having each lane spiral outwards from the center, to eliminate crossing any lanes when exiting the roundabout. But such a design on a 4 way intersection needs at least 3 lanes within the roundabout itself. (As well as the lane connector tool to stop vehicles from changing lanes while already inside the roundabout.) And with how the roundabout tool works in C:S2, I would need 3 lanes to approach the roundabout from at least one of the directions... Which is a bit excessive for a roundabout in most cases. Would work for terminating an arterial and evenly dispurcing traffic onto 3 1+1 lane streets. But in lower traffic areas that don't have a 3+X lane road, it just couldn't be made with the roundabout tool. Even if we did get the lane connector tool in the near future. One could try making it like how one makes roundabouts in C:S1, with just a circle of one way roads. But I highly suspect that C:S2 won't recognize that as a roundabout, sadly. :

I think more roads with alternate lane configs would solve a lot of intersection (roundabout) related issues. A 3+1 and 4+2 come to mind specifically, but there are others. The way the game treats a roundabout as its own configuration rather than a circular road with its own lanes is a massive improvement overall, and will simplify roundabout making and altering for beginner and advanced players alike

@@YUMBL More road configurations would be great in general! And I have no issues with how roundabouts are created in C:S2, it's a great way of doing it. And I don't have any issues with it picking a reasonable number of lanes for the roundabout automatically. I just don't see a reason why we shouldn't be able to have a bit more control over how our roundabouts are configured.

I imagine an undo option would open the door for a lot of unexpected exploitation in the vanilla game. Possibly cheapening the achievements for those who care. Deleting a misplaced network or moving a building is also rather cheap, so I do t think undo is necessary.

Yield is default if no traffic light or stop sign, but sure. Both yield and stop should be toggleable (how do I spell that correctly) per incoming road

This is correct. Yields are automatic, and are the default at junctions that dont have a light.

@@YUMBLIs there a way to change the priorities? And are 4-way stops possible?

Yields are the default but they are on all sides. Stop signs can be toggled, but are also on all sides. Traffic lights only change if traffic is present so in that way the road with the most traffic is prioritized automatically.

@@YUMBL I figured out what you mean by it’s default. As long as it has no light or stops at it. I haven’t tinkered a whole lot with the game yet, but I definitely don’t need all way stops everywhere I put them. I’m also used to being able to switch it to the traffic view and see exactly what’s a light and sign and toggle it that way on or off per that side of the street, which is why I said add yields, because I don’t see most of em and if I do I probably think they’re stop signs.

Roadside parking is actually default for almost all the roads. And it can be removed by applying the wider sidewalk.

@@YUMBL sorry I meant the actual parking space. Like the spaces on parking lot roads mod. Where you could do the angled parking spots.

Totally! I did that for my Newmarket build. Main Street USA vibes.

Yea, but too bad its a two phase light where the straight and left turns all go at the same time 😳

@@YUMBL That it's a classic 4 step traffic light, one for each direction in a classic intersection. That's why the lanes are this way. So the two left turning lanes get to move at the same time. It seems fine to me.

No, the light is two step in game. Thats the problem.

@@YUMBL Ohhh shit, sorry !!! :) How can this be ?? The only tow phase traffic light, in reality, is on very small intersections. That's a bummer, now I get you.

You can remove parking by applying large sidewalks, grass strips, and/or large medians to networks. It is built in.

thats a bit weird and overly complicated ngl.. a roundabout is much simpler

@@JakePlayz37 note I never said it would be practical, that I just wanted to try it. And in real life around here, yeah I would much prefer roundabouts, but I doubt they're going to put roundabouts on US Highway 1

@@JonathanHarvell yeah thats true, do what you want haha

Great question. Franklin turning left onto Florence is that roads sole purpose. You cannot reenter the freeway via Butler from Franklin.

Thanks for the answer@@YUMBL Have to live through you and some others on RU-vid until I try and break my computer when the game comes out ( 11 year old model so I am prepared for it )

I don’t think so, there are still some limitations, also it wouldn’t act like a single intersection anyway

The reason that any configuration is common anywhere is because the traffic engineer had the OPTION to configure it that way. And thats all I want :)