IT'S A STUPID ARGUMENT! 😡 Simon Jordan & Agent Sky Andrew CLASH Over FIFA's Limitations on Agents

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TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan and football agent Sky Andrew lock horns over FIFA limitations on how much agents can earn.
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@mewe1771 8 месяцев назад

If this guy is a top agent, how bad must the others be...

@jtmmmm27 8 месяцев назад

Their biggest role is to massage the players egos.

@nicholascannon5001 8 месяцев назад

Spot on

@beejj6190 8 месяцев назад

The point is if the agents are regulated / paid by the footballers their cut will be less. That's the real issue, lol.

@alexlanemusic 8 месяцев назад

Glad Simon cut through the nonsense. I’m sure Simon learned something, and more importantly, so did we.

@G_Hump3z 8 месяцев назад

Anyone else read this in Simon’s voice?

@Harry-mj6tq 8 месяцев назад

Can't tell you how much this comment made me smile - constantly have that intro going around in my head

@VR46314 8 месяцев назад

Nosunsche

@xjkdx 8 месяцев назад

agents don't have a monopoly on the market, nor should they. There should be limits because it affects the entire game not just the players and agents. Capitalism at its best.

@Motownisyourtown 8 месяцев назад

@@VR46314Nosunshe

@mojy77mm 8 месяцев назад

Well done Simon. Utter nonsense from the agent

@beejj6190 8 месяцев назад

?? So the Scots guy asks a specific question. Sky gives his opinion. Jordan ignores the question (and answer) and a says Sky is being irrelevant (and goes of on another one of his idotic coke -fuelled rants). Perhaps you should listen and stop being a Jordan -sheep.

@garyjohnson264 8 месяцев назад

Are we sure Sky isn't the taxi driver the BBC thought was an IT expert for a live interview?

@garytaf 8 месяцев назад

Players should pay agents not clubs

@thrilla72 8 месяцев назад

I mean...then the players would increase their wage demands to compensate

@Alex123491996 8 месяцев назад

@@thrilla72then the clubs tell them to get fucked, this might finally make players chose between their club and their snake agent

@Jim90117 8 месяцев назад

You think that bill wouldn't be passed on by the player?

@aspursy7826 8 месяцев назад

Sky ain't got a clue. Simon just rinsed him 😂

@sonark289 8 месяцев назад

BS thats why Jim had to step in as Simon as just talking lol

@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 8 месяцев назад

@@sonark289Coward 🙄

@Rayunicorn1 8 месяцев назад

You don’t know what you’re talking about?

@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 8 месяцев назад

@@Rayunicorn1 Clown commenter Ray is here on another comment 🤣🤡

@Rayunicorn1 8 месяцев назад

@@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx Better to be a clown than a confused fish.

@tonylawlor8833 8 месяцев назад

Simons argument has always been who pays the agents, not what they earn, it should be the players that pay their own agents, just like any other agent/client relationship, like for instance Actors. At the moment the clubs foot the bill and thus the fans.

@pascalthe8th66 8 месяцев назад

100%. Thats the normal way for every agent relationship in sports or business in general. Why is it different in football?? Pure greed from agents bleeding clubs.

@adtastic1533 8 месяцев назад

It's a nonsense argument. If the player has to pay his agent he will just ask for more money. The club still pays the same. At the end of the day it's not our money it's not our business. Stop trying to take money out of people's wallet.

@cygnus3632 8 месяцев назад

Football is getting beyond a joke with the amount of money going around.

@pooriaansari1674 8 месяцев назад

nope, not football but the fans/those who are feeding it up!

@LifeAtSea50 8 месяцев назад

Simon’s hatred of Football Agents is fairly obvious 😂

@zcyf3211 8 месяцев назад

It was hilarious to listen to cause it only fuelled him to disregard any points made. You gotta link Simon with facts and common sense or you’ve lost your argument before you start it 😂

@pamjohn1814 8 месяцев назад

Sky clearly has his agenda

@albertbrammer9263 8 месяцев назад

Yeah, make as much money for himself as possible.

@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 8 месяцев назад

*Sly

@Rayunicorn1 8 месяцев назад

Why, whose agenda would you prefer for him to have? Yours?

@hbos9709 8 месяцев назад

@Rayunicorn1 what? Sky is clearly angling for a job position at fifa . Seems sky asked you to deflect for him

@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 8 месяцев назад

@@Rayunicorn1 Ray has his unicorn horn pointing firmly in Sly's direction 🙄

@charliehill2464 8 месяцев назад

Jim didn’t like the idea of a limit on what he can earn. Changed his tune quick 😂

@sixfootsosa4466 8 месяцев назад

Thats for sure

@kernowchris 8 месяцев назад

Jim would have buggered off to Saudi if they needed a tv host.

@saint8471 8 месяцев назад

Lol

@parz6917 8 месяцев назад

Omg… and millions going out of the game to these parasites. Players should pay their agents full stop.

@HuntsDown 8 месяцев назад

No top agent would go on Talksport and embarrass themselves like this, surely

@jackramsden9346 8 месяцев назад

The same thing happened with the NBA with them trying to make sure agents have a degree and relevant qualifications to stop Rich Paul from having a monopoly on the sport.

@JackJackJack123 8 месяцев назад

In USA the agent is restricted to approx 3.5% of the contract that they negotiated and that’s that. No financial incentive for agents to move players. Works just fine.

@billybobthornton9668 8 месяцев назад

Sky's argument about so-called 'double taxation' revealed exactly what motivates him! "Oh no, we can't tax the footballer and then tax the money they spend on agent fees - that would mean I get less money!!!"😱😱😱😱 What, like almost every other transaction that takes place in society? I'm beyond dismayed at the absolute cheek of this man, especially considering what he must be earning 🤦

@glover424 8 месяцев назад

Spot on, it's like any joe bloggs on the street when he gets paid his wages and buys something immediately after. its taxed 😂

@1980redkremlin 8 месяцев назад

I don't know how Sky Andrews is successful as an agent but he's an awful broadcaster. I don't understand any of his points

@billybobthornton9668 8 месяцев назад

@@1980redkremlin I mean, I suppose broadcasting is a different skillset to corporate negotiations, but it doesn't seem like he's the most articulate bloke. His comments give the impression that he views agents as a closed club which suggests success as an agent comes down to who you know, rather than how good you actually are at negotiating deals 🤷

@1980redkremlin 8 месяцев назад

@billybobthornton9668 Yes, but he should say that shouldn't he? Obviously he doesn't want to upset any of hid industry buddies which is fair enough. But at the very least, if you're going to dance around the subject...learn to dance!

@jonhayes7322 8 месяцев назад

SJ: “I don’t know what you’re talking about!!!!” X10?? 😂😂😂

@bornin1948 8 месяцев назад

Djokovic doesn’t play a team sport. That guest is a fool.

@lemons1986 8 месяцев назад

Simon and Sky both make good points. Ultimately matters such as these aren’t decided on a basis of “fairness.” They are negotiated ruthlessly according to positions of leverage. Sadly, most of the public has been infantilized to the point that this ruthlessness - this steadfast pursuit of self interest - is considered anathema. As a result, it is impossible to have an open & honest conversation about issues like this in a public forum, for fear of outrage and backlash. Simon and Sky are two brilliant & experienced businessmen and interlocutors more than capable of hashing out their differences on this issue in a coherent manner. However, in a public forum, the naive notion of what “should” be done crowds out the more realistic discussion regarding what SHALL be done. Remember this the next time you hear someone cry about business dealings being conducted with a lack of transparency.

@lfcspectre4335 8 месяцев назад

Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@lfcspectre4335 8 месяцев назад

@@MW92. The Jordanite Leader Himself OG MW = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts

@leedoyle7150 8 месяцев назад

Love how ruthless Simon is 😂😂😂😂

@fyarlynx 8 месяцев назад

They need to put limited on how much a club can earn off the players ffs 😂😂😂 put limits EVERYWHERE 🤣🤣🤣

@thrilla72 8 месяцев назад

Yeah great point that gets overlooked

@TheBodger7 8 месяцев назад

Sorry so if I employed a cleaner to clean my house I'd get a tax break for having a cleaner?? Nonsense, the cheek of players expecting clubs to pay their agent is just ridiculous and an utter scam

@denisoleary1407 8 месяцев назад

This guy comes across as a right money grabbing scam artist !

@DJeMo 8 месяцев назад

As desperate as car salesmen on the lot

@Isleofskye 8 месяцев назад

Tru Say,Mi Bredda. Tru Say,Bredrin..

@iamfordy3457 8 месяцев назад

This conversation was absolutely pointless

@djmattblack 8 месяцев назад

Anyone notice how much louder Skys voice is than everyone elses, is that deliberate?

@machinefannatic99 8 месяцев назад

they are basically arguing about capitalism, and explaining its flaws.

@Explorations84 8 месяцев назад

The only representation I would need as a footballer would be my own accountant I can drag along with me to negotiations. These "agents" are self-professed and not qualified in anyway - they just have good contacts. They'll spout how important they are simply because of the amount of money they are taking out.

@williampotato1221 8 месяцев назад

Money for old rope my friend!

@languageoffootball 8 месяцев назад

There are lots of “money for old rope” roles like this out there. I don’t think it’s as unregulated as it used to be either in terms of entry level.

@williampotato1221 8 месяцев назад

@@languageoffootball oh come on 🙄... Wake up and smell the coffee! It's an absolute cesspit of corruption.

@kerrysgold1 8 месяцев назад

Same for me. I know Roy Keanes never had an agent. His family solicitor does all his dealings-even contract negotiations with Man U

@bobsocks7575 8 месяцев назад

@@marditoon1128How did they do that?

@NibberKSmooth 8 месяцев назад

No agents at all in football. Players should employ a solicitor to discuss contracts.

@troydyall6624 8 месяцев назад

Well done SJ!

@ajjo-ni8mw 8 месяцев назад

Agents deserve every penny they get, bang average premier league players getting hundreds of thousands of pounds a week because of great work by the agent

@JamaicanToast 8 месяцев назад

I agree with Sky, he does work in the industry at the end of the day. Everyones agreeing with Simon but then when Simon invites him back on and acknowledges Sky's argument just like he reconciled with Eubank Snr. You're all quiet

@leemoffat159 8 месяцев назад

Simon at his best here! Well done 🙌🏼

@fiddler8395 8 месяцев назад

Simon from the Piers Morgan school of interviewing. Just put him in a paper bag and let him fight with himself. Why bother inviting a guest on.

@richarddawson8479 8 месяцев назад

HMRC should look into this tax fiddle

@stevenjohnson7442 8 месяцев назад

Simon, really can be blasted rude at times! And it's so unnecessary.

@JoeBrennan-lj8sg 8 месяцев назад

Sky clearly doesnt like players choosing their agents if they are family

@InPursuit-ToddMay 8 месяцев назад

Plenty of good agents, even more dirty ones

@dbfhorses 8 месяцев назад

"Lo 'angen frooo". That's what football is.

@jennybyford8071 8 месяцев назад

The lies of the Qatar Stadiums needs addressing too by FIFA.

@jackswaby8532 8 месяцев назад

Am I sitting in the right seat? I'm not sure

@rob-24971 8 месяцев назад

Simon, let him speak for gods sake. He never got a chance to put his point across.

@abiodunbuddy 8 месяцев назад

Omg!!! Let your guests speak and stop interrupting!!

@atikurrahman9304 8 месяцев назад

Agents are the bane of football.

@yarp123123123123123 8 месяцев назад

bad owners are by far the bane of football, like simon here who got crystal palace bankrupt.

@campfirefootball 8 месяцев назад

Can someone tell Jim White that if he wants to come to a solution on a debate, interrupting others to repeat the same sentence over and over again is probably not the best route?

@sonark289 8 месяцев назад

Ive noticed alot of people just agree with Simon regardless of what hes saying

@ConfusedAnglerfish-ik5bx 8 месяцев назад

Has Simon been sleeping with your Husband again?! 🙄

@nickchivers9029 8 месяцев назад

And some people disagree with him no matter what he says. Some people are stupid and just blindly follow or blindly hate.

@rsamancunian5609 8 месяцев назад

Simon appears to look at things logically, and he comes across as being sensible most of the time. Sometimes, people are just agreeing with the way he lays down the argument.

@avfc1985 8 месяцев назад

Guessing you disagree with him whatever he says then

@kavitvora6654 8 месяцев назад

The solution of this agent problem is to let players pay their agents

@rosshaugh7937 8 месяцев назад

EXACTLY!

@rosshaugh7937 8 месяцев назад

Why the hell should a club have to pay the agent?!

@rc9719 8 месяцев назад

they will just get higher wages then , the club is still going to foot the bill.

@stnbch3025 8 месяцев назад

@@rc9719 The wagebill has an FFP cap.

@johannisvanleeuwen5533 8 месяцев назад

The agent came off as a blabbering idiot.

@matthewwells1817 8 месяцев назад

And to think this guy is classed as a top level agent.... Clueless.

@paulthurman5517 8 месяцев назад

Top agent😂 Christ!! Can you imagine the chancers in that industry 😅

@alanclark4569 8 месяцев назад

This discussion needs to start from the identification of what is/are the problem(s) that need to be solved. My suggestion is that the problem is the capacity of agents to manipulate the clubs and players to their financial gain, has gone out of control, This lack of regulation is taking huge amounts of money from the game, dictating to a large extent which players go where, creating hyperinflation of transfer fees and player salaries, diminishing player loyalty, taking away the obligation to perform, and destroying some clubs. Of course the clubs themselves need to question their modus operandi. But right now they are at the mercy of agents and the power that they have, and the obsession/financial neccessity to succeed.

@riaddaniels2823 8 месяцев назад

I'm always concerned about a player, with an agent, going broke.

@bwalya773 8 месяцев назад

Simon is a sad story

@adriangill5504 8 месяцев назад

The argument is just going round and round At the end of the day it’s not in the agents interest in a player staying at a club for the length of their contract Agents make money on a percentage of a transfer Agents should not get a percentage but be paid by the player over the length of their contract The player should agree to pay their agent a percentage from their weekly/monthly pay packet

@michaelkeenan2212 8 месяцев назад

Theres no real clarification on the points here because,,its just a mess and young footballers are been hoodwinked,,this is like going around in roundabout,,

@Jim90117 8 месяцев назад

That was the most vague "debate", devoid of any kind of useful information...

@LFC4LIFEJEDI 8 месяцев назад

I got out of that is Sky is jealous that none of the top players want him as their agent.. As for Jim, my God he has never been ore annoying, he was so out his depth

@si_w8201 8 месяцев назад

He's always annoying and always out of his depth, today was not an exception...

@si_w8201 8 месяцев назад

@@rebelwill412 agreed, don't even get me started on the current format on SSN...

@D-RockDrop 8 месяцев назад

Sounds like America…let’s not tax the wealthy

@JP-nb7tm 8 месяцев назад

Why would you even ask an agents opinion?

@sicklymaad 8 месяцев назад

You can’t become a top agent without the top players hiring you. FIFA doesn’t have the authority to tell agents what they should charge for their services. Sounds dumb and illegal.

@benhilton4884 8 месяцев назад

Wow not sure we’re glad Sky was able to make it in this morning 😂

@georgearthern2163 8 месяцев назад

Family agents/managers is a regular thing in boxing. Ask Lawrence Okolie how that has worked out for him.

@BigAlCapwn 8 месяцев назад

Restraint of trade clauses do exist though and can be perfectly legal (dependant on how they are shaped and what their purpose is, including the clause being necessary for the good of the industry)

@davidharrison6083 8 месяцев назад

Simon, you are far too intelligent for this discussion. This agent is thick and you will never be able to have an civil debate with him.

@richyrose99 8 месяцев назад

call them out

@darthgreenthum6364 8 месяцев назад

Kevin De Bruyne negotiated his current city contact without an agent.

@whodoyouratemore 8 месяцев назад

Simons attack dog style gets s bit boring

@garethevans4865 8 месяцев назад

Imagine being a footballer and this muppet represents you…

@TheXxaddictxX 8 месяцев назад

Also, these signing bonus? Player literally run their contracts down doing f all for the clubs they play for only to sign for someone else who they have clearly been tapped up by. Think that needs to be looked into as well.

@jonhayes7322 8 месяцев назад

Sky “you need to put people in the right seats… fifa sit in their GLASS tower” 🤦‍♂️

@ianbanks3016 8 месяцев назад

This guy's a a top agent? Really?

@jtmmmm27 8 месяцев назад

If regulations from FIFA are the answer, your asking the wrong question.

@NukularNutz 8 месяцев назад

All this guy talks about is dodging the tax man. We would all like that. Why should a player not be taxed on money he pays his agent. Its errelevant

@pascalthe8th66 8 месяцев назад

I never heard of this agent. I don’t know who the hell he is. But what I do know is that nearly everything he said made no sense. Definitely not a brainiac that’s for sure.

@denisako6493 8 месяцев назад

Players should pay their agents

@LilHazTV 8 месяцев назад

Why’s it a problem?

@LukeSpires-h2u 8 месяцев назад

Simon might as well change his first name to former club owner

@terrymetcalfe615 8 месяцев назад

Agents should be payed by the player they represent only.

@ilovevegimite 8 месяцев назад

Have footballers got the intelligence to know who is a good or bad agent or do they just trust what they are told?

@superpantman 8 месяцев назад

Well like finding a tradesmen you either go by recommendation from other players or change agent if you're not getting what you pay for.

@JW-db8bz 8 месяцев назад

Jesus christ, Sky is thick beyond belief. I could have made a better representation of agents than him and I don't know the first thing about it.

@richardfield-h1z 8 месяцев назад

Agents and the bosman ruling killed the game

@BigDman69 8 месяцев назад

1 club should have 1 agent......quite simple really Clubs pay them anyway

@paulc2007 8 месяцев назад

Why do players even need an agent? Can’t players just do deals themselves

@Tormented22 8 месяцев назад

Players need an agent because of managers like Harry Redknapp who would pay you a packet of crisps per game if he could.

@anthonyd975 8 месяцев назад

Surely these people should b ready for simon to pick there point of view apart..

@glenndouglas.T 8 месяцев назад

Jordan over rates his opinions

@thebluewolf5012 8 месяцев назад

Simon disagrees for the sake of disagreeing. If the agent agrees that agents should be regulated then he suddenly has a problem with that, yet every week he complains about how agents are bleeding the game dry.

@MrMoneyLong 8 месяцев назад

Exactly - he’s so full of himself. But folks with little intellect thinks he’s clever , when in fact he articulately talks nonsense.

@matthewbarber13 8 месяцев назад

Simon is right 9 times out of ten but in this case because he wouldn’t let Sky actually get his point across he became rude, childish and petulant, how many times has he tried to make a point for someone to interject and him furiously say let me finish what I was saying! He bangs on about how players earn to much and agents are parasites etc but here’s Sky who if was allowed to finish his point was basically agreeing that the way agents make money needs to change. Yet Simon couldn’t be bothered to be civil for 1 minute to listen. If Sky had told Simon that Christmas is on 25th December Simon would have agued that it’s not and Sky doesn’t know what he’s talking about. There are a lot of unscrupulous agents who act only for themselves and cause division (which is a point a wholeheartedly agree with Simon on) but Sky is not one of them, for him to be treated with such disdain by Simon is completely out of order.

@albertbrammer9263 8 месяцев назад

Simon does not like agents. He would like them to be gone.

@soapboxparishrecordings5287 8 месяцев назад

Introduce a fixed 5% of the transfer fee for agents. Paid split between both clubs and the player. That’s more than enough 3:51

@HATTORI82 8 месяцев назад

That was hard work, Simon wasnt even playing devils advocate for once.... he was merely stating the facts that you can't simply restrict agent fees in a world where every other aspect of the deal has a million variables. I do however think he was slighlty contradicting the times hes spent grilling agents about the way they do their dealings, other than that he was spot on.

@tomgilbert9565 8 месяцев назад

Do you agree that the right people should sit in the right seats!! 😂

@villainofthepiste8275 8 месяцев назад

Fancy having an agent on then not listening to his point of view and cutting in every 5 minutes because you love the sound of your own voice- Simon Simone wasn't interested in asking him questions or having any logical counter-arguments, just interested in speaking his usual Codswollop

@cavanharrington1814 8 месяцев назад

Hes talking riddles and very frustrating watch

@devilfacedjedi 8 месяцев назад

I GET THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH AGENTS EARNING MILLIONS OUT OF THEIR CLIENTS, OR JUST EARNING MILLIONS IN GENERAL BUT TO BE HONEST WHATS THE PROBLEM?

@bojam_83 8 месяцев назад

That was 15 minutes of what do you mean? What do you mean? What do you mean? !!! 🤯

@alipanroosendaal9503 8 месяцев назад

SJ does not suffer fools. Sky came across as a complete fool.

@SDCLFC1 8 месяцев назад

If taxation is a problem in football then it's a problem in every industry. This guy thinks football's special because that's his industry. The response to him should have been - "go an have lunch with Jimmy Carr then". What a tosser.