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Today on TwoGuyzTech, Logan is going to be taking a quick look at UGREEN's latest NASync series of network attached storage devices. With UGREEN being a newcomer to the space, and making really big promises, we weren't really sure what to expect. There's a lot to unpack here.
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@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Quick update on the custom OS hardware warranty issue; We got word from UGREEN that they seem to be shifting their stance to continuing hardware warranty support after installing a custom OS, but they still don't want to promote it, and of course they won't be providing support services for a custom OS. Here's the exact statement we got from them; "We can offer the normal hardware warranty, but given that there may be unknown compatibility issues with third-party systems, we need to remind [customers] that flashing the machine is risky. So we prefer consumers to use our UGOS system directly. For the long-term development of the brand, we have invested a lot of R&D costs in the hope that we can run our own operating system. At the same time, as a new NAS manufacturer, our current software experience may not be able to compare to those [other] brands that have been in the industry for more than a decade. We will also continue to optimize and upgrade our system based on consumer feedback and suggestions. We understand that customers want to use a third party system, but we can't officially state that our customers should abandon our system." We see this as a huge win for the community, and it resolves one of the biggest potential problems we saw with the NAS. Let us know what you think!

@xenonlp9189 6 месяцев назад

I have heard that others now had problems with Unraid, which simply switches off after more than 60 minutes. Have you also experienced such problems? But all in all it certainly sounds a bit better from Ugreen now 😅 The cleanest way would of course still be to replace the built-in OS SSD, but then unfortunately you have to remove the warranty sticker. But that would make it go out again, wouldn't it?

@thefoxhouse 6 месяцев назад

@@xenonlp9189I’m pretty sure he addressed that in the video. He said the watchdog timer in the bios needs to be disabled

@xenonlp9189 6 месяцев назад

@@thefoxhouse Under the newest Video he answered me: "I disabled the watchdog, used a completely new drive for the OS (and in the case of UnRAID, ran off the USB on one occasion with no disks, and on another with 3 disks). And on both occasions, the system rebooted after a few minutes. Still investigating the causes, as I need to eliminate some potential causes my side [...] but haven't had the time yet between other projects to explore yet." ... It doesn't seem so

@augustuspollock3676 6 месяцев назад

I keep seeing ads for UGREEN, so I’m glad someone I trust was able to get a copy and review it! Thanks for the information, hopefully they can get their software figured out in future.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much! Glad it was helpful! We hope so too. It's not far from being a really capable unit right out of the box.

@pilsplease7561 6 месяцев назад

I was supposed to get one to test then they backed out last minute

@tropical-thunder 6 дней назад

why don't you just put unraid or truenas on it?

@artvram 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for showing the kernel and BIOS. Rare to see in a video like this, but super useful.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!

@MADBONE0 6 месяцев назад

ABOUT TIME … thank goodness 😅 SLAPS TRUENAS on it Let’s Go

@marcopaolini3478 6 месяцев назад

JFYI, if you install a different OS you'll loose UGREEN warranty (source: a recent interview with UGREEN UK rep. on another YT NAS channel).

@utooboobnoob 6 месяцев назад

Not sure how valuable that warranty actually is

@marcopaolini3478 6 месяцев назад

@@utooboobnoobAgree, but as a user, I prefer to make an informed decision.

@liquicitizendirk2147 6 месяцев назад

The disclaimer from the Uk rep. sounded more like:"We don't wanna fix problems you have due to flashing an different OS". Feels like it should be fine if UGREEN provides an image that you can install once something goes wrong.

@msaraiva 6 месяцев назад

There is conflicting information floating around (including from official Ugreen sources). Also, that's not enforceable in countries with strong consumer protection laws.

@K4sk4d3 6 месяцев назад

They don’t want the CCP mandated back door removed from the kernel? Gasp!

@Hummtaro 6 месяцев назад

Huge thanks for making clear the boot and efi situation! After i finally clicked on their ad and was impressed by the hardware specs for this price, i reached out to both the community and ugreen themself to ask if i coould install another operating system. Ugreen only aswered, that this is not supported and i will loose warranty, while the folks in the community only said, that all could be done with tinkering and fiddling since we have root access..

@RespectedDesperado 6 месяцев назад

Yes you can install another OS. I've seen a youtuber do it with a test unit. You just loose your warranty

@xellaz 6 месяцев назад

And you also loose their phone app access.

@draginator6 6 месяцев назад

@@xellaz Well that part makes sense since you are removing the software that makes it work.

@Hummtaro 6 месяцев назад

@@xellaz Of course! Would be horrible otherwise!

@andymok7945 6 месяцев назад

I really like the design of the unit. Easy access for RAM and M.2. Being able to install TrueNAS or such is also a great benfit.

@geofreypejsa54 6 месяцев назад

Good review; glad you pointed out the deficiencies regarding the software. As you noted, these pieces make it tough to go to it now, but hopefully they update and get it right software wise

@SierraGolfNiner 6 месяцев назад

If I could install TrueNas Scale on that…I’d be 100% in.

@nikola_korneta 6 месяцев назад

You can

@JoseRodriguez-cl7be 4 месяца назад

You can install any os, there is even videos with Windows installed.

@timothyvandyke9511 6 месяцев назад

That looks like the PERFECT hardware for a tiny nas. I'm drooling and want to add unraid to that so bad

@Vedeyn 6 месяцев назад

I would love to see a more in-depth video regarding the installation and use of another OS. Im debating getting one of these with the intention of installing Proxmox on it.

@Vatharian 6 месяцев назад

Ugreen makes a lot of stuff like laptop holders, and lots of small electronics, and all of that stuff is really high quality.

@ctrlaltdelete08157 6 месяцев назад

Thunderbolt 4 is available at 6 Bay Models and above.

@__Ben 6 месяцев назад

For another way to access the BIOS without having to deliberately break the EFI partition could you attempt running "sudo systemctl reboot --firmware-setup" This should work as a way to reboot the system straight to BIOS.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! Didn't know about that!

@__Ben 6 месяцев назад

@@TwoGuyzTechI don't know if that will work on these systems, but it should do. That said with the higher end ones i'd just open it and replace the SSD anyway. Look like brilliant hardware, just rough software wise for now.

@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 6 месяцев назад

@@__Ben I think that only works on systems that use systemd-boot as the bootloader, no? Don't think it would work on a system that boots from grub or does it?

@__Ben 6 месяцев назад

@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Still works on some systems I have that use grub, so it should be fine. Could possibly add a grub entry to fwsetup too somehow

@BobHannent 6 месяцев назад

It was interesting when i saw it being advertised, but they're kickstarter is only selling to USA and Germany.

@Pr3mium2 6 месяцев назад

Can u add power consumption numbers? For like idle avg min max. With or without hdds. Thanks.

@garyhobson8583 6 месяцев назад

other reviews are showing 60W idle

@neolordie 6 месяцев назад

@garyhobson8583 with the 4 hdd ?

@philosoaper 6 месяцев назад

the stagnation is why I decided last year to ditch "nas boxes" and build my own nas with truenas scale on it

@jamesbailey9512 6 месяцев назад

I wouldn't trust a custom kernel from a Chinese mainland company. Which is a shame as the the hardware looks great.

@globetrotterdk 6 месяцев назад

Also note that they state on their website that all arbitration is to be done in Hong Kong courts.

@MangosVinylCuts 6 месяцев назад

Unlock bootloader... install whatever you want.

@PennGG 3 месяца назад

You can install another NAS on in it

@nospamallowed4890 6 месяцев назад

The problem with the NAS market is that they are proprietary and linked to hardware. After a few years they discontinue it and if something breaks you are left hanging. My definition of a perfect NAS: - Generic low power PC hardware, with no hardware RAID. This is where NAS hardware manufacturers should compete. - An open source implementation of the NAS, with software-based RAID and the ability to sync/mirror with a 2nd instance on another hardware instance. Possibly based on Linux and simple installation. - Ability to easily add a drive (new or from another NAS instance), be asked whether to absorb the data from that drive into the NAS set or to format it and add it as a new blank drive.

@nurgledave 6 месяцев назад

Sucks the KS is only shipping to US and Germany, us UK lot can't get the 40% discount

@RayDusso 6 месяцев назад

Sorry but having to go through a Chinese server to circle back to my network connected NAS is a big red flag for security.

@captainsubtext 6 месяцев назад

It uses Amazon cloud … no one cares about u except the cia.

@FerTechCH 6 месяцев назад

They shouldnt even bother creating their own OS. They should highly promote the compatibility and choice of TrueNAS and unRAID into these machines. The hardware looks amazing and the whole idea if it would support the mentioned OS is amazing, but they missed not supporting ECC RAM which would have been the cherry on the top.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

It's a double edged sword. When good solutions are already available, it's hard to justify reinventing the wheel unless you can bring something new to the table. I am optimistic though, seeing as they have a good base, hopefully UGREEN can bring those essential features to the platform because it would make the NAS extremely convenient. Ultimately consumers want choice to use the hardware in a way that they see most fit. Thanks for watching!

@ragingbombast 6 месяцев назад

None of the CPUs they are using support ECC, as per Intel documentation. I'd have to checked, but I'm pretty sure all the modern choices for ECC either a) are AMD, and thus incompatible with several media services' hardware transcoding processes, or b) are expensive small scale Xeons. As for trying to sell these as boxes for enthusiast grade operating systems... most people who buy these small boxes are looking for things that "just works." Its why Synology is still king in the space even though they make such awful hardware choices - The software is fantastic for novices or people who just don't care. Most people I know who get into TrueNAS and unRAID would build their own boxes no matter what.

@m0x34riou 6 месяцев назад

I can understand them creating their own os to market to people who just want a plug and play NAS and don't want to fiddle around with TrueNAS or something else. And the similar look to Synology is probably with the intention to get people to switch. What bothers me is their adamant standing about voiding your warranty should you install another OS. In my opinion they should lean more into the enthusiast market and make it even easier for users to switch the OS. If they would have gone that route, it would have been an immediate buy from me, followed by immediately installing TrueNAS on it 😉

@sinisterpisces 6 месяцев назад

Great review. Thanks for the deeper dive on the Linux kernel (I don't understand why they're using a custom kernel at all) and the third party OS/UEFI stuff (not bizarre if you assume it's primarily to lock users into their OS, but aggravating). It's disappointing to see such great hardware paired with the software you've experienced. It's actually a bit concerning that they sent it out to you in this state. NASCompares has Q and A with one of the Ugreen product leads, and ... he was a lot vaguer on the hardware specs than you were. He didn't give details on some things that you were able to look at just by using lspci. One thing he did say that really turned me off was that installing a third party OS apparently *voids the hardware warranty*. I'd understand it being completely unsupported, but voiding the entire warranty seems extreme, especially as the software is still so ... young. If you're able to talk to Ugreen's product rep(s), could you ask them to clarify whether installing a third party OS is just unsupported, or whether it actually voids the hardware warranty?

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching & we're glad the video was helpful! Unfortunately, as we've come to understand from the digging we've done, the operating system warranty issue seems to be something that UGREEN is pretty stiff about. The German website also verbosely states that (translated) "We do not recommend this type of intervention. If you still insist on it, you will permanently lose your warranty". We haven't had contact with the gentleman from UGREEN that was in the Q and A session - the individual we've been working with is part of UGREEN's team in China - so we may contact them for further clarification. Will keep you posted.

@alonzosmith6189 6 месяцев назад

The hardware specs looks great.

@christopherjames9843 6 месяцев назад

Really good looking unit.

@NerijusUza 6 месяцев назад

Nice review, thanks. Could you do a part 2, going more in-depth running third party OS? Both Truenas and Unraid. Specifically, stability and performance (transfers speeds) running it. Thanks.

@johnwoods1161 6 месяцев назад

Keep up the amazing work. This is my favorite tech channel 😌

@chrisumali9841 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day

@marcogenovesi8570 6 месяцев назад

One possible explanation for the custom kernel is for btrfs support and especially btrfs raid5 support. Yes Debian has btrfs support too, but they might have backported more features/fixes on their own kernel since btrfs raid5 is a moving target and not officially "stable"

@frankwong9486 6 месяцев назад

Hardware looks nice , but I pay hardware + software (even I don’t need the software part) and still no go for 3rdparty OS which broke whole warranty (they even void hardware warranty) . Their software/features is mostly not sure / in develop , if you trying sell a turkey solution with strict UgreenOS policy , at least make something work out of the box ,right ? No go until they have clean statement about 3rd party OS /hardware warranty and timetable of supported feature list

@msaraiva 6 месяцев назад

In the higher end models, the OS is installed on a built-in NVME. Replace it and install the OS on a new one. If you need warranty, put the original NVME back.

@frankwong9486 6 месяцев назад

@@msaraiva I remember see that part that you need to broke their "warranty sticker" to access that system drive Not sure if the sticker is legal in the EU but I am sure the company will try everything to decline your support Like how they describe the 3rd party OS policy in a another video -is because they don't want to get into a rabbit hole where people raise support tickets for something on the 3rd software part Yep you reading right , one of the reasons for it is : we don't want to do the support job or try to reject support ticket not related to us. Mate you are the first line of contact for user support ,if the issue is something from 3rd party then gently told user what happened and suggest them contact the correct party When your company is selling a turkey solution to the end user, don't expect the end user know everything ,and expected will get odd support ticket from end user if they know everything they don't need to buy your turkey product . Funny thing is the turkey nas solution they try to sell got lots of thing can't promise ,no time table, not that "work out of the box" LMAO

@marcogenovesi8570 6 месяцев назад

@@frankwong9486 EU warranty is provided by the EU seller and the stickers are irrelevant. If you buy from overseas there is no EU warranty besides what the manufacturer decides to provide

@whiteb0rd 6 месяцев назад

I would love to see a review if this guy's big brother, the 6bay unit, maxed on ram, additional optional SSDs, and TruNAS Scale taking advantage of all of it.

@Nik.ff. 2 месяца назад

I wish I had known how deep into homelab I was going to go just from the time I ordered my nasync. I haven't even opened it yet because I realized I wanted more. Having a higher level ugreen nas would've been perfect but I didn't know I wanted it at the time. I went from just wanting a nas to host jellyfin. to building a full xeon pc with tons of HDD space to run proxmox.

@haroldostenger5160 5 месяцев назад

do you think this can be a line of defense, in the case of a ransomware attack in an office LAN ?

@STONJAUS_FILMS 3 месяца назад

I think competition is good , just hope truenas keeps on getting more and more stable and capable with time since i plug more than 16 “old” repurposed drives and a 16 bay nas is prohibitory expensive… the hardware seems amazing though except the ram limitations which i hope can be overcomed with some kind of swap memory partition on those nvmes… wonder if they support ECC RAM… wish to see ecc ram becoming a standard for nas systems

@a9udn9u-vanced 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the review! I'm looking to get this exact model. OS is my main concern and you confirmed it. I heard that UGREEN will push a major update before the official release, hopefully it will bring more features. Did you break the NDA by releaing an early review? I can't find any other reviews but yours.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! We also hope that UGREEN will be able to deliver on their promises. It sounds like a lot of new features will be coming soon that would improve the software experience a lot. Although UGREEN did send us this NAS for review, they never asked us to sign an NDA nor subjected us to any other editorial oversight. We only became aware that some folks were held to an NDA after the release of our review. Hopefully this helps to put some of this into perspective.

@a9udn9u-vanced 6 месяцев назад

@@TwoGuyzTech Thanks for clarifying

@KoolAidManOG 6 месяцев назад

I really want one but it is a no-buy without Plex support or word on whether or not it will happen.

@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 6 месяцев назад

Well, it seems to have some crude support for Docker so one can still install the Plex docker manually and go from there, I think.

@derekschommer1465 5 дней назад

Can you do one nvme cache one storage? I plan to get a NAS and cobble together with what drives I have now and upgrade as I need/can. My extra 2tb nvme is a little excessive for cache lol.

@llamaSHORTS1 6 месяцев назад

Can you test the power draw with TrueNAS or any other OS?

@malifestro3319 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for touching on the UEFI boot portion of your video. Did you test unraid on it after you did that? Will it stay online and reboot right back into Unraid with no problems? Unraid boots off a USB stick, not a nvme drive.

@kiaser21 6 месяцев назад

Nearly perfect, just needs a few changes: Some sort of iKVM/IPMI remote control, a way to mirror the boot drive (maybe the SSD boot drive can bifurcate?), and change that SATA backplane to a tri-support of SATA/SAS/NVMe.

@jaylord55 6 месяцев назад

this is super cool my first thought of this was for the price i could 3d print an extension to the bottom of the case and add some more 3.5in drive bays or even some 2.5in bays and throw truenas or proxmox on this thing. Atlest the software is not completely locked down like some other brands

@greggv8 6 месяцев назад

Since it's running Debian it should be able to run Open Media Vault, which brings along with it Docker support and a bunch of other things. But since it has DLNA out of the box there's no need to add anything if you're just using it to store media and your Smart TV and other devices have DLNA support. They just need to have native support for the codecs the files are encoded with.

@Hummtaro 6 месяцев назад

Could you maybe install a few different operating systems and test if everything works fine? Like Windows and TrueNas. Since they use a custom kernel, it could be that they did some odd stuff, like it's often the case with embedded hardware.. Theoretically even Windows should run. Would be nice if we could also use the internal 128GB SSD for 3th party operating systems.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! I have tested other Linux distros and they work perfectly on the hardware, so I don't have any reason to believe that Windows and TrueNAS wouldn't work great either. I may visit this topic in a future video. You can use the internal 128GB SSD for other operating systems, but I'm not sure if there's any way to source the original OS again if you want to restore the unit to its original condition, so keep this in mind as well.

@naturprodukteessens9865 5 месяцев назад

Hi, I have a question. Does this product even exist? This Ugreen Nasync DXp4800 Plus. It's not available on their website. Where did you buy it?

@TwoGuyzTech 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! We did not buy it but UGREEN sent it to us for review as it is a prerelease unit. As mentioned in the video, this is currently being crowdfunded on Kickstarter, and I left a link to their campaign in the description.

@sjn8768 6 месяцев назад

Good job on the review. That Chinese kernel is a no go for me. I’ll wait for something else at this point.

@msaraiva 6 месяцев назад

Rip and replace.

@kiaser21 6 месяцев назад

@TwoGuyzTech Can you show us all the BIOS menus? I"m wondering if this board supports or has a BIOS option to bifurcate that 1st M.2 slot used for the boot SSD, you could adapter it out to dual M.2 SSDs in a mirror.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! The BIOS setup is really basic, unfortunately no options to bifurcate any of the M.2 slots. You don't really get anything past fan curve adjustment and enabling/disabling Turbo Boost. You could mirror the boot SSD to another one of the M.2 slots that would otherwise be used for a cache drive but if you want more cache or more NVMe storage then it's definitely not ideal. Hope this helps.

@Techning 6 месяцев назад

Great review! I'm also planning to buy one of these NAS systems. Do you have any information on compatibility with MacOS Time Machine Backups?

@nathancoy8066 6 месяцев назад

Gonna be the TikTok of NAS.

@VirtualCoding 6 месяцев назад

Does the HDMI Port work with a custom OS installed? Or do you perhaps require the custom kernel code for it?

@tankspl7 5 месяцев назад

Ill hold off judgement until I see a video of TrueNAS Scale installation video with full hardware functionality.

@sidbratkovich 5 месяцев назад

What I think is strange is the popup box that says the hard drives are not on the compatibility list and that you could lose data. Strange because UGREEN supplied those drives, and that WD Red drives are not on their compatibility list.

@Shanakar 3 месяца назад

Maybe you can help @TwoGuyzTech So one of the things I've been toying with is to either use NAS storage or get PCIE-Sata expansion to have the drives in my case. I am planning on building a full gaming/media PC and have been undecided on the best way to do it. All my old games, current games (almost 3000 on steam) and all my DVD's, Anime which I have ripped to keep the discs safe are all stored on multiple 12tb hard drives. Right now I'm using external cases for temporary but don't like them because they tend to go to sleep after a while and them initializing every time I want to access something is annoying and slows down Launchbox. What would you recommend me doing? Having all the drives in my case (Cosmos II case that can fit 13 hard drives) using a PCIE-Sata Expansion or should I use a NAS and would playing games be ok on a NAS? I've been leaning more towards the PCIE-Sata Expansion route but for some reason my mind is having second thoughts. I think I just need another intelligent head to provide me with their thoughts. Hope you'll see this and reply.

@NoEgg4u 6 месяцев назад

@4:27 -- Having to go to the company's web site, in order to activate or configure or enable your purchase to function properly, is a red flag. If some remote web site can run admin processes on the hardware in your home (or your office), then you are granting access to complete strangers. And what if UGREEN goes belly-up? Well, where does that leave you with your hardware? What's next? Buy a new refrigerator, and to to the company's web site to set the temperature? It sounds like that UGREEN NAS is a mini or small form factor PC, housed in a case that has four bays for drives. You can probably install Windows on it, and use it like any other PC (albeit with Pentium CPU performance).

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

While I do agree with this 100% I think I should have made it clearer in the video that the "find UGNas" site only searches for the NAS on your local network. The actual web interface that it directs you to is hosted on the NAS itself and doesn't have any reliance on the Internet (unless you link a UGREEN account which is optional for now) but it still can absolutely receive commands from the internet and we don't know how well UGOS is written as far as security goes. You can absolutely install another OS as well and we think it's an optimal use case. I showed a little trick to get access to the UEFI BIOS towards the end of the video. Hope this clarifies things just a bit, thanks for watching!

@NoEgg4u 6 месяцев назад

@@TwoGuyzTech Thank you.

@roelsiebens9090 6 месяцев назад

Just a small detail in the Kickstarter: "Please note that The UGREEN NASync Series Kickstarter campaign currently only supports shipping to addresses in the United States and Germany."

@cardboardpig 6 месяцев назад

I like the hardware and that you can replace the OS - I have my own self built server that's a bit long in the tooth that I would like to replace with something like this.

@jeremyzeeky3024 6 месяцев назад

I'd be curious for a performance test of Plex on this

@skyler2020 6 месяцев назад

No native Plex support according to Ugreen. Have to use Docker, which I don't want to do. I expected easy installation like Synology

@fixitfixitfixit 6 месяцев назад

I'm a beta tester, I've ran my own tests and plex works well in terms of performance, Had to jump through hoops to get hardware transcoding working though as many of the drivers needed for that were not installed. That was a native install via SSH. They did mention that they are looking into making some kind of official package. I don't know for sure if that will happen though or will they just tell users to use docker if they want plex. Gotta wait and see on that front.

@fixitfixitfixit 6 месяцев назад

I can't say much more than that due to us beta testers being under an NDA. I will 100% agree with TwoGuys though the hardware is really solid.

@skyler2020 6 месяцев назад

@@fixitfixitfixit I would really like a native package that doesn't require a bunch of hoops to make work. I understand that there are technical people who can install Linux on anything and make things work, but I'm here to use it as a "non technical" user. Another person said it best, this is advertised as a "Turnkey solution", but you still have to manually do things to make things like Plex work.

@KoolAidManOG 6 месяцев назад

@@fixitfixitfixit Did the Plex developers say if they were making an official package or did this come from UGreen? Thank you in advance!

@florentin... 5 месяцев назад

Maybe this question has been asked before, but is there a video/tutorial showing how to install a different OS on this hardware? Thanks!

@thepumpchumppp Месяц назад

im new to NAS. I cant find a tutorial on how to get jellyfin on the UGREEN. i want to buy one but want to make sure i can get jellyfin on it first

@markarca6360 6 месяцев назад

I guess they got the idea from Synology DSM. If I get the same unit, I will install CasaOS, which is also based in Debian.

@slow_Jo 6 месяцев назад

i'm looking for an easy to use backup solution for ios and android, and other digital media. what would you recommend? Truenas? Synology? Qnap?

@TieFly 5 месяцев назад

After watching this I’m considering 4800 Plus, but now that I’m on the website the DXP480T Plus is catching my eye. Any opinions on the all-flash for primarily movie streaming?

@th3r3v92 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for the informative video. I just wonder, if you replace the built-in SSD with a different one, I doubt that anyone can tell that you used a different OS.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! Yes, in theory you could do this, but the disassembly of the NAS is rather difficult and we had to break a "warranty void if removed" sticker to gain access to the internal SSD. The best approach might be to image the SSD to another external drive and then install your operating system, so you could re-image the original data back on if needed.

@th3r3v92 6 месяцев назад

Oh, I see, you are absolutely right then. With the sticker in mind, then imaging the drive is probably the best solution (especially since it is just a 128 GB SSD). Thank you for the extra info. Originally, I was looking at the TerraMaster F4-424 Pro (after what happened to Storaxa...), but it looks like I'm going to be a Ugreen NAS owner "soon". The hardware is just too good to skip. Especially considering the PCI layout is also decent (thx for showing the lspci output), it will make a hella good Proxmox/TrueNAS box.

@AndrewyRi 6 месяцев назад

@@TwoGuyzTech Can we just boot from USB Stick ? I Plan to use Unraid

@mpxz999 6 месяцев назад

I like the size of the cooling fan

@joer9276 6 месяцев назад

I’d be on this in a sec with a hybrid raid option!

5 месяцев назад

So to use plex server you need to install another OS, right? Also using plex for playback via the HDMI requires another OS, right?

@Linealo 6 месяцев назад

Does it supports a direct link via the second LAN? 2.5G to network is enough for me, but the 10G to 10G on my computer would be great for direct access when i.e. editing directly off from it. The missing TB4 on this specific model would be the make or break if it comes to this use case, if a direct LAN connection doesn't work.

@danielwright4307 6 месяцев назад

How’s the Mac compatibility? I currently have a pi running OpenMediaVault attached to a sabrent enclosure and I’m getting a ton of issues with copying files to the drives. From what I can see it’s a macOS and SMB compatibility issue.

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! We don't have a modern Mac to test with right now but it behaved perfectly fine being read and written to both from Windows and Linux. I suspect it's running Debian's standard Samba package for hosting SMB.

@greggould4275 6 месяцев назад

Just saw this, and will watch other reviews. Just a question in case you may know.. I live in the US, so I know this NAS IS available to m )others have said only US / DE). I have a QANP Nas I LOVE and use it for work. I am looking for a surveillance system for my home. Many standalone camera systems are great, but, interfaces can be wonky, and they don't NEARLY have the processing / memory of something like an actual NAS. I just don't want to burden my QNAP with wired camera streams, and so I was looking for a 2-Bay NAS to basically use as a Surveillance system. Do you know if this NAS handles ONVIF cameras I can use, or how the Surveillance app is? Have you looked at that aspect of the software? Seems like it has great processing power to be a dedicated surveillance system ONLY (which is what I am looking for) - many standalone systems have bragged they can handle multiple (like 6) 4k streams, and yet, actual reviews are mixed when tried. That's why I thought about just buying and dedicating a NAS ONLY for that purpose, and this sounds like it COULD be the one. What would you say?

@Leo-tf7gu 6 месяцев назад

I am looking for a 6 bay NAS which will let me add an existing HDD with data without formatting and possibly run Windows 11.

@t1ll1s 6 месяцев назад

will this trick with renaming the EFI folder work for the eMMC (soldered) N100 versions as well?

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! To be truthful, we're not sure, since we don't have an eMMC unit to test, but we would imagine the process would be almost identical, save for the name of the device being different. I'm covering this topic in more detail in a video releasing on our channel this morning. Hope it helps.

@LordSaliss 6 месяцев назад

Can the USB type C port on the front plug into a Mac or PC and make the drives be seen as a removable drive? If so then I can use BackBlaze to do a cloud backup of this NAS.

@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 3 месяца назад

Are they even selling this mains stream yet?

@theskuffedknerd 5 месяцев назад

Hmm, I was able to stop it from booting into the built-in EFI and will boot from a USB for Unraid, but I am still unable to actually get into the BIOS settings. I've tried every key I can think of that would normally pop the BIOS menu. Any ideas?

@DrawdeThePotato 6 месяцев назад

Can you attach a eGPU... Just because i want to see what it will do if you make a VM with the attached eGPU.

@worldgate989 6 месяцев назад

I wouldn't mind the 8bay but im kinda broke after investing in an 85 inch tv.

@RTX1070 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for your review. Is it possible to connect another computer directly to this nas via cable to open the disks?

@Playerz714 6 месяцев назад

This needs more years of development on the software

@shilezi 6 месяцев назад

do you have steps on how to install a new os on it? good review btw

@ziyanide 6 месяцев назад

Do you have any information on the eMMC of the DXP2800/4800? I was wondering if it was soldered on or if it was replacable and if one could also put a different OS on there

@felkmane 6 месяцев назад

I watched another video on these, from 'aChair leg', who did a full teardown and installed a different OS. It isn't easy, but is possible and seemed to work well.

@blackshadow323 6 месяцев назад

Can you please let me know the dimensions. Depth and height are important to me. I only have 16.5 cm of height space left in my small rack. Thank you :)

@saotekwong3276 6 месяцев назад

Just what are those leading zero on the bays for?

@asyraffahmad8307 5 месяцев назад

Genuine question, can i use plex and stream 4k?

@ericseidel4940 5 месяцев назад

YOU make the developpment with UGREEN, I have a M2 USB reader unable to recognise proper SSDs.

@PitFighter2007 6 месяцев назад

will wait for price to drop thanks

@davekincaid8308 2 месяца назад

Well I received mine, now I just need to figure it out...

@CrazyPr0ducti0ns 6 месяцев назад

Do you feel that jellyfin/plex would be able to run on the none plus variant?

@FishamaticianDX2-66 6 месяцев назад

Personally I bought a Dell wyse 5070 to run proxmox and jellyfin on and use a nas just for storage, that way failure of one won't impact the other.

@nooby1.0 6 месяцев назад

Man, too bad they aren't shipping to the Netherlands. I could send it to Germany, but that would be a hassle.

@laborspy 6 месяцев назад

There is cutting edge and bleeding edge. I'll let everyone work out the kinks and I'll check back in around 1yr from now.

@undergod1987 6 месяцев назад

I don't trust it but shoot it's awesome If you swap the OS.

@ecotts 4 месяца назад

Ugreen, sell the box with no operating system, reduce the price and the majority of people looking for a suitable nas would likely buy one of these over a QNAP and Synology.

@tld8102 6 месяцев назад

wait can you use the 4k hdmi 2.1 port to stream games?

@BurkeJones 6 месяцев назад

I'll never back another Chinese company on Kickstarter. Storaxa ruined it. Plus a custom kernel for literally no reason is suspicious as hell. I won't even buy Synology anymore because of their closed ecosystem and draconian practices on their enterprise products. I have no trust anymore. I'd be interested to see someone wireshark this thing for a few weeks and see what all telemetry is being sent and where.

@Goodgu3963 6 месяцев назад

The fact that the 4 bay version costs $200 more than the 2 bay version is a scam. The specs and internal hardware are nearly identical. You need some small bit of extra hardware to connect two more drives, but the price different is absurd for different shape box and extra couple of internal connectors.

@jimchen319 6 месяцев назад

If you can install Synology on it , I would get it

@darkpenguin1978 6 месяцев назад

Vidéo surveillance app does this available

@true4795 5 месяцев назад

I always heard Ugreen without G

@richiewoodward6301 4 месяца назад

Can you make a vpn using this?

@DavidChiluk 6 месяцев назад

Do they support ZFS? How hard is it to install other OS's?

@cardboardpig 6 месяцев назад

I think they _might_ support ZFS based on their documentation and the dropdown menu where you can select btrfs - shame the reviewer didn't click the dropdown in the video...

@marconwps 6 месяцев назад

Hack for install truenas?

@TwoGuyzTech 6 месяцев назад

The section where I mentioned modifications you could make to disable booting from the internal SSD would make it very easy to install TrueNAS. Hope this helps!