'It Was Never Over So Icy': Clem on Real Reason Gucci & Jeezy Started Beefing, DJ Drama & T.I. 

On my soul😂 boogie Oogie looking azz

Looks like Cleveland Brown

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@@rubenparkerjr1531this comment slept on fasho 🤣

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Yeah and Master P 97-98 impact was crazy

@@statusofmyown9829 yea u right

@@statusofmyown9829 nelly 00-01 big pun was supposed to but rip

Cash money 98-00

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I don't even remember Wayne's

@@MoePeezy I do

@@MoePeezylol them dedications mixtapes was 🔥🔥

Fuck trap. One of the greatest albums ever.

So what's the other one?

@@Hingle_McCringleberry87Calm down.

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I got it banned from my Highschool 😂🤦🏿‍♂️😒

No lie… my cousin school made him turn his shirt inside ou😂😂😂 and this was DETROIT

New York created Hip Hop. LA took it in another direction and the South redefined Hip Hop more than once. Stop Snitching T shirts came after the Snowman Shirts .Jeezy& , Gucci Mane's beef is the turning point in Hip Hop where street cred and street morals became the most important topic. Remember TI snitched. Boosie beat his murder charge. It was no longer about the quality of the music. Gucci Mane became a star after the murder charge. People became concerned with who was the biggest gangster, who beat a murder charge and who didn't snitch. Boosie running around here like he's the Black Godfather of Organized Crime. Jeezy created a shirt glamorizing nose candy. That's pure ignorance and nothing to be proud of😂😂😂

@@rotweilerscholar1181never heard ti snitched… Who ti snitch on??? Is ti snitch paperwork on RU-vid???

@@MKORO30TUESDAY Type TI snitched.

T.I. Was way more influential then jeezy dude cut it out if it wasn’t for the ground t.I. Paved there would be no jeezy t.I. Popularized that trap sound

That's the difference. Very accurate

​​@@JPK169o you could say without Ghetto Mafia,there would be no TIP, cuz they are the real ones who started that " Trap " sound. T.I. is a Giant,but Jeezy took it to another level.Had America wearing SnoMan tshirts...TIP never had that type of Influence.

@@dfromgarylantasota2439holdup Tip had niggas cocking they hats to the side and Shìt lol. But Jeezy Wayne and Dipset definitely had the craziest wave when it come to influence on the streets

Yea u right but it was never ti mixtapes that was goin crazy for the streets his albums did the numbers which makes more money so technically he not wrong cuz if that’s the case name a ti mixtape that was a culture classic

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He said Drama was in a Liberty Jeep but after Trap or Die he came in Jags, benzes, that's a hell of upgrade

Definitely agree. Before Trap or Die we were trying to get a Gangsta Grillz Tape hosted by Drama and they were only asking for 3500, then it went 5000 and then….it was out of reach because they blew up so quick.

Yo I swear RU-vid comments are funnier than 98 percent of comedians out now

Actually my first time of hearing about drama or gangsta grillz was Jeezy

Everbody does.........Drama knew Jeezy saved his career and made him who he is today

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He threw me off too lmao I’m hoping he was being funny lol

He cap

Believe NONE of what you hear, and half of what you see. 😅

U must Ain never heard Jeezy when his rap name was Lil Jay!! Lil Jay was WACK. He rapped like A Florida Guy!! He must Ain Heard dat Georgia Song. He dressed like a Clown. When he got around Bleu his whole style Changed!!! Bleu had been living a BMF lifestyle. Meech put him over the Music!! U must forgot about Baby D!! He was a rapper UNDER BLEU Administration!!! Sure Bleu rapped. Duh! He also handled the business of BMF MUSIC SIDE!! When Jeezy got around Bleu he started dressing like a Crip. He started talking DOPE TALK!! He told a Car Combination on the Song GET THROWED and nobody understood until after the Fall of BMF!! Bleu men had been seeing Shit like dat. Jeezy was rapping Meech life! Jeezy was rapping a BMF life style dat he only had jus got aroun. Like Bleu said, when Wolf got Killed is when Jeezy came up. Meech sent everybody home and Jeezy was in MIA at the time and Meech was out Thea. He was Meech Runner!! Jeezy started rapping wat he Witnessed!!! Without The BMF lifestyle there would be NO JEEZY!!! He wasn’t having bricks like dat. He tell u, “I shoulda got 5 mics in the Source, instead I got 5 bricks in a Porsche. He Dey snitching on O Dog movements. Kmsl

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​@@zipsomequick382Rick ross and Jeezy should've been best friends all that faking they do.

Bro look like a big Gary Coleman😂😂

@@dizzlelaflare8605 😂😂

Wayne did

It was Bun B, not Jeezy. The Gangsta Grillz legend series staring Bun B, introduced the nation to Gangsta Grillz. T.I. and Jeezy were influenced by UGK. Jeezy also had a big push from BMF which was basically marketing without a budget. UGK’s influence was everywhere and they were around Cash Money and No Limit in their beginning years with Pimp C doing a lot of production for both labels.

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@@raymondwhatley4970 nah lol drama was on when Wayne finally did one

Not all facts …. I was the engineer at big cat. Def not all facts . Many falsehoods but blame it age and time

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Yooo wtf 😂

Underrated by who he’s good but he’s not great if anything I would say jeezy is underrated as a lyricist people respect TI more as a lyricist than Jeezy. TI is better but jeezy had better hits Imo

I’m from Indianapolis, that boy had the Midwest locked. Everybody was bangin Jeezy that summer of 05’. EVERYBODY. Bought the hard copy(CD) twice cause it was stolen out the car. I ain’t gone lie, even bought the bootleg to tie me over and still went up to FYE and grabbed the real album.

I ain’t mean to put my last comment here lol. Dat boi T.I. nice he always was droppin hits, but Jeezy was dropping street anthems you bang over a nice set of 15’s

@@gsp1634 I feel like TIP doesn’t get enough credit for his lyrical ability imo but u right

@@JtreeProductions Jeezy had the game on fire in 2005 🔥

I’m sayin, he tweaking on that one

@@ClaytonBigsby4 it wasnt how he said it either. He talking like Ti wasnt on that level

@@DesignzRUs Ti wasn’t on that level fasho 😂 he was doing his thing tho

@@BigKoolTv now yall tryna rewrite history

Down With The King Had Bangers💯 Ended Lil Flip Career

💯 💯 mf strictly promoting the brand

Nobody this dumb nomo lol

Shyt bro look like he from a 80s time warp 😂

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He's capping. There's no way he personally pressed up 500 thousand CD's at one small facility for streets is watching. 50-100K is more reasonable .

This nigga full of shit and tryna stay good with Jeezy

@@rotweilerscholar1181 Definitely not cap. If you can press up 100K, then you can press up 500K. I’ve seen it done before. You are just rewriting the CD’s using machines that had 5-10 drives each. He just said June had about 100 of the machines. That’s 5 hundred to a thousand copies in a matter of minutes. Taking the cd’s out and putting blanks in is the longest part in the process, but after doing it a dozen or so times, you would naturally be faster at doing it because of the repetition process of doing the exact same thing. I believe it because Slim Thug and Swisha House was doing the same thing, but they were selling them to the cd shops at wholesale prices and the shops would have 3 for 25 deals. It was a ton of money in that era of the mixtape hustle because hard copies were the standard and norm. Had to switch up for the digital age but that was for the better. It’s the reason why labels are pouring out way more money now than they ever had to artists. Saving all that money from not having to press up a million copies of a album or the shipping involved in getting them to the music stores all over the nation and worldwide.

​@@cryile78222Slim Thug and da house wasn't pressing up no damn 500k of CD's at any point during the mixtape era in Texas... Yes they was big af out here but it was more like 100k to 250k when they was really pumping like that... Da only mf from that era doing 500k independent was SPM although that was an album... Boyz was definitely going platinum n gold in da streets tho...100k - 250k💪🏾🤘🏾💯

@@cryile78222 No way bruh. E40 went Ghetto Gold slinging 100K independently and he had fans in California , The Midwest and the South. There's no way They pressed up 500,000 units just to pass out locally in the ATL. Those are Cash Money type units and they had a distribution deal with Universal and fans in more Southern States than Jeezy when he first started. We aren't even talking about the height of Jeezy's career when he supposedly pressed up all of those units. That's physically impossible doing it in house. That would take months and he would have had carpatunnel from repetitive motion😁 As of 2020, There's only 247,000 Black people living in Atlanta and they all don't like rap. 500K is enough cd's to give everyone 2 copies.

How you know?

Don't let this nigga mix lies with truth to trick you. He just tryna stay good with Jeezy

I’m not even from Atlanta and I know this… I’m from South Florida and he had our streets on lock too

That was BMF who changed Atlanta like that. Jeezy was rapping about stuff he saw through BMF. Nobody was riding a Lambo in Hinesville Georgia bro

@@craigwade4618 Jeezy was the first rapper in Atlanta pulling up Lambo, Rari, and Porsche.

@@shimmerveli9535 yeah but he got that from BMF. Bro I'm from Atlanta and those were my prime years so trust me we were riding old schools. BMF was the first one to ride foreign in Atlanta and that's where Jeezy got that from

@@craigwade4618 Jeezy had his own Lambo lime green, blue Lambo, black Rari, white vette all after the mob got picced up. I was there.

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Facts! Mfs be trynna rewrite history like Gucci was always that Nigga hell nah! Jeezy came in the game and took off! The first trap rapper idgaf what nobody says cuz even gucci had to follow jeezys blueprint even til this day.

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@dmoney96761 facts gucci had his legacy too but everybody know he wanted jeezy spot

@@dmoney96761 to me, Gucci took off when he was putting out a new mixtape almost every other week. That was after Jeezy was big tho.

@@trabucks exactly wop wanted Jeezy spot cuz they both are very similar it’s just Jeezy had so much motion behind him. Even the verses battle Jeezy crushed gucci with just TM101.. gucci whole catalog is equal to Jeezy first album these are facts 🤷🏾‍♂️ idc what anyone says

Wrong that’s buckhead the hood was riding wit Gucci 💯 I was there

@@MikeJones-gv1yv you missing the point my boi... Im from Jersey but lived on East I know HB so I'm Gucci bias... But nobody and I mean nobody had a buzz like Jeezy had when trap or die-Thug Motivation era

Like dude said they was out of town doing shows 6days a week. Gucci was killing all the hood spots nightly in the city. I’m just speaking from my perspective. I remember the Libras energy shit was special

@@MikeJones-gv1yv you talking about hood clubs bro cut it out... I'm talking about the hype around Trap or die and thug motivation...Out narratives different

It’s a Atlanta thing if I you know you know

I agree with 90% of what you said but So Icy didn’t sound like nothing Jeezy had out then. Listening to Thug Motivation 101 and hearing the theme of the album, So Icy would’ve thrown the sound off of it. I literally don’t think So Icy would’ve sounded good on Trap or Die either.

Jeezy had da whole world wearing snowman shirts 🤣🤣🤣 n wanting to sell dope or hustle hard

@@khambrelmathis6101 that's a label thing. The song was hot and getting a lot of radio play organically. The label wanted to put the machine behind it and turbo charge it. It just would have been an easy radio single for them. I think things worked out for both parties tho

@@Taedat he did..... But he didn't leverage that. Most of them shirts were bootlegged. T.I. had much more charting success and still had a foothold in the streets. He knew how to play the game as well

@@TheRealBigManHarris I agree it was a hood and club hit and it got a lot of spins on the radio ( even here in South Florida) back then… but this is where the Labels only looked at the numbers and nothing else. Plus the timing of Jeezy coming up and having a buzz played a part in it too…and you right, it worked out well for both parties… well at least Jeezy and Gucci and Zaytoven because Boo and the dude singing the hook, went MIA after that

No Kizzy😂😂😂

Shut yo moist goosebumps having ass up.

He talking bout blk T remix after gucci stole the song.

I was waiting for somebody to say this

Of course he’s talking about the version that Jeezy is on, that’s what the video is about smh

@@tedhall9257 Smh! U don’t listen or read to comprehend do u??? Smdh!

Gotta put 50 in there too

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Tip definitely bigger than jeezy he lasted longer , Gucci more relevant than both of em thi

@@ClaytonBigsby4 101 and Recession are certified classics...Inspiration and 103 was hard but not classic but Trap Music Urban Legend King and Paper Trail classics Tip been on songs wit Eminem Nas Jadakiss and Jay and Wayne and had the best verses like I said I love em both but we ain't gon talk bout anything Jeezy put out in the last however many years Tip albums still good

Jeezy mixtape is better than t.i. whole catalog

​@@ClaytonBigsby4 I like that

He talking about from the streets point of view. Niggas wanted to trap like Jeezy or gucci back in the day. Tip was more commercial and didn’t talk about da trap every song. Jeezy and gucci on the other hand they devoted they whole catalogs about trapping so it’s a difference between them and tip.

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Pretty much

He said him and his boys not 2 people

TM 101 got leaked a month before time or so. But like the comments say everybody played it by the time it officially came out.

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Tip had a gangsta grill before drama put jeezy on one

Dedication-Wayne

Ti = Tips Jezzy = BMF big Difference!!

T.I. from Riverdale. 🗣️🗣️🗣️Nigga say he from the Westside, GOT DAMMMMMM MUST BE ✌🏿 SIDES

You wrong bru I’m born and raised in the A jeezy had the streets way more on fire than TI even future or baby didn’t light the streets up like jeezy that’s on god it wasn’t even no social network the. Boi if it was

@@drosmith1781 Nigga aint from Riverdale. Tip went to Doug high school off of H.E Holmes which is the Westside dufus. He lived in Riverdale when his mom moved out there for a 2nd

@@eddie4195 Future actually lit up the streets bigger than Jeezy and TI did genius..DJs all over the city use to play 10 future records in a row during the Dirty Sprite and the Dirty Sprite 2 days. Goes to show how much u know! 😂

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To me jeezy was like jay-z was in his Era as far as getting bread way before the rap game to me trap or die and thug motivation was more like reasonable doubt and volume one in my lifetime

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Bruh tm101 was out before so icey… was u in jail or sum?🤦‍♂️

@@philmarley2201 I mean like icy & dem boyz blew jeezy up lbr

@@jamaljacobs9771shiiiitttt nuhh lmao tm101 most definitely blew dat nigga up 😂

What the fuck boi you ain’t from the south

​@@philmarley2201tm101 was not out b4 so icey, so icey and boys n da hood is what lead to the hype of tm101

Are you slow bro you can’t be from the community jeezy is the king of trap the richest to ever come to the rap game he change the sound of music ti biggest shit is king he not fuckin with jeezy an niggas still listen to jeezy I haven’t heard ti in years

Nothing ti did holds a candle to jeezy period .... then u forgetting the snitching meanwhile u advocating for a 🐀

Trap music don’t stand a Chance to TM101

Nah bro... Tip aint get big til he tried to pick on Flip for clout. Facts... Jeezy had the streets on lock just like 50

Still do

How jeezy let his bodyguard get shot 😂😂 that's his job also they wasn't even shooting at Jeezy they was shooting at suge

Jezzy wouldn't even go see the dude . Man was shot 9 times he a hoe for that

That Gangsta Grillz was not better than TRAP OR DIE. 2nd Jeezy didn't have to diss nobody on a Gangsta Grillz to get publicity. TI dissed Flip to get attention. If you go back to TI first mixtape with DJ DRAMA it's not good.

Clem is C.T.E. !! And KINKY B COUSIN so he definitely knows what he is talking about

@@drosmith1781 I didn't say it was bigger or better then trap or die but Clem was acting like nobody had heard of Gangsta Grillz before Jeezy and that's just not true. That t.i. Gangsta Grillz with PSC had the Streets On Fire. I'm don't no where u from but in Atlanta we was jamming the hell outta that

@@drosmith1781 that Nigga don't speak for Atlanta... What you talkin about. Them n***** Ain't Even from Atlanta..

@@craigwade4618 I'm from Arkansas. I'm in the South. We listened to TI GANGSTA GRILLZ: DOWN WITH THE KING 👑. It was good but we didn't respect the publicity stunt TI PULLED. He also got his ass kicked in Houston when he tried fighting Flip. When Jeezy dropped Trap or Die mixtape we were on him but TM:101 was played everywhere here in Arkansas