ITER NOW 1.3: Visiting ITER 

It's extremely important for world! If we want to stop climate change renewable's will not be enough. Let's just hope they crack the technology in time. As for the sending a man to the Moon, fusion could send us to Mars.

@@jondonnelly4831 Fusion could send us to the stars

perfectdiversion But we’d need a couple of million kilos of reactor in orbit first. I suppose we could get it up there with enough energy, from, oh wait.... fusion :)

That will be the next great step of the whole human being!

@@andyowens5494 A practical fusion rocket will be a sliver of the mass of ITER, anyway...

i second this , try contacting large tech youtubers such as Linus Media Group, or Gamers Nexus .... , Smarter Every Day

I believe @realengineering would be a very good fit.

Go to ther website, WWW.ITER.ORG, it has a LOT of details about the project, including a timeline and explanations on components and challenges.

Thanks for your input. We have many such episodes in the pipeline. As you may imagine, they take more time to get right and do well, so we’re starting with some of these easier topics while the others are in production. So please stay tuned!

Consider that in contrast to the Manhattan project all the largest economies in the world contribute, share knowledge and manpower and produce parts all around the globe. In terms of collaboration one could assume this is currently the largest research program in the world. Given a return to national agendas the number of projects where the USA, EU, Russia, China, India, Japan, South Korea and others come together for one purpose is rare enough.

Except the Manhattan project was well managed and actually delivered on time.

@@SF-gn6uw It also costed about 25 billion dollars and employed 130000 people.

@@SF-gn6uw The Manhatten Project was a cakewalk compared to what they are trying to achieve with ITER

Tens of thousands of years they can lose the ocean water as fuel

You could say depending on the products used (fusion can be achieved with multiple reactions), but almost all possible resources are abundant for millenia.

Its all here, for the fuels ITER (and likely subsequent reactors) will use: www.iter.org/sci/FusionFuels

@@andyowens5494 thank you, I was looking on their website but having trouble my answer. Thank you for posting to link to what I needed.

The Corona virus is just another virus. Nothing special. Malaria and Influenza kill many more every year.

I doubt it will be noticeable. The virus does not affect the flow of money. Nor does it affect the production of material and equipment; there might be an impact on production of any items that might be coming from China due to the impact on their workforce, but in global supply chain terms, its negligible. Just about the only component that might be affected is the people; the expertise that is making it happen - all the virus is likely to do is slow the movement of (some) people by a couple of weeks, and given these are intelligent scientists and engineers, I think they have the ability to use the internet to the full, and minimise any impact on their own work, so the effect in the overall schedule, again, will be negligible. Unless a few key individuals get seriously infected, the project will be big enough to continue on plan.

It's experimental reactor, to prove the possibility. If it works, the next one (fully functioning, providing power to the grid) is to be built in Japan.

Indeed - even ITER will not be strong enough to supply enough energy to the grid to make that worthwhile. But once ITER is successful, the roadmap will be clear to building "DEMO" and the fusion power plants of the future that will certainly be worthy of connecting to the grid. ITER is an experiment to show us how to get there.

ITER is expected to produce a total of 500MW; thats equivalent to EACH of the generating units is a conventional power station - the one near me alone has 4 units, and there are dozens of stations, so 500MW is almost inconsequential in terms of national supply. The additional cost and complexity in linking it up to the supply grid is outweighed by the flexibility in its operation to further the experimental goals. They cant just add their excess power to the grid when the make it, as that could destabilise the entire network; its a finely tuned system and interlinked across the whole of Europe - grid operators have a tough time coping with wind and solar generating when nature provides, but weather forecasting is pretty good, and the variability is small. Chucking a spare 500MW onto a grid (or dropping it out if theres a need to stop suddenly) has a much bigger impact than if the wind gusts on a couple of wind turbines, or a cloud blows over a solar array. A surge of that size could do more than this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_2003

@@iterorganization in another 100 years after 500bn of funding maybe. ITER 'strong enough'? garbage.

@@SF-gn6uw If you're such a skeptic why are you here? Mummy not hugged you enough today?

For example Mexico

In 2025, the machine will create its first plasma. Then in 2035, it will go beyond the break even point. But the great "usefulness" ITER will produce is its paving the way for other machines after that to actually hook into the grid and supply energy to society.

@@iterorganization i see thats great!! Thanks for the reaction.

@iterorganization You did read my other comments under the other video? The company called Tokamak Energy, they plan to do this by 2030. Also I would like to see Photonics replace Electrons, when the conversion happens on the grid. Photonic Computing is already being developed, and Photonics is said to replace electronics, with fiber optic cables all over the cities, so wouldn't it make sense to think about using Photonics (Photons) as the energy source? If there isn't mention, this is something that needs to be funded and developed. Check out my other channel's Photonic Computing playlist. ru-vid.com/group/PLAUtk-Q2DF7yx80jrh7uORkHKowzGy7pi Have you thought about using Quantum Computers with A.i. to accelerate I.T.E.R. progress in 2025 when it demonstrates? Quantum Computing playlist. ru-vid.com/group/PLAUtk-Q2DF7zcaxLKdVe7KGlZW6VZBYn6 And what are you using for super conductors / magnets? Have you looked into Graphene? Be sure to check out all of my other channel for my Graphene playlist, Quantum Levitation playlist and many other things. The Rice University developed a new way to produce Graphene, called Flash Graphene. They have 2 videos on this. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hzm5AMPFMqs.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GzDrnoGdLO4.html And you've seen this video on Graphene and Super Conductors? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HSn57YVDvHg.html Also the Graphene Flagship Roadmap. graphene-flagship.eu/project/roadmap/Pages/Roadmap.aspx Be sure to check pages back in this news link. graphene-flagship.eu/news Graphene Flagship Products. graphene-flagship.eu/material/GrapheneApplicationAreas/Pages/Graphene-Products.aspx Graphene Flagship Application Areas. graphene-flagship.eu/material/GrapheneApplicationAreas/Pages/default.aspx GrapheneCA uses Graphene with concrete to make homes and other things. Start with the oldest videos and work your way to the newest, you will understand when you see it. grapheneca.com/videos/ grapheneca.com/ Have you thought about placing a Fusion Reactor Hologram in the I.T.E.R. facility, inside the area for inspiration? Voxon Photonics, just make sure that you have something that looks like glass around it, I would recommend Graphene as transparent around it like a globe / dome. The hologram wouldn't need anything around it, it's just to keep you safe away from it, learn how it works. Please use Graphene though to place around it. voxon.co/ Here's another Hologram type to check out that you can feel and hear. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tzWP-NL3Lck.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C9aPsURza1I.html Here's an article. www.techradar.com/news/dummy-40-ways-graphene-is-about-to-change-your-life

And to give some more ideas. You should know about the new materials coming out, I can only hope it's not too late for I.T.E.R. to shift to cheaper and better materials that are new, they found thousands of new materials from Graphene also, recently. From the Graphene Flagship. And other companies and labs are also finding new things all the time. Graphene and Cement. ru-vid.com/group/PLAUtk-Q2DF7z4VmZUM7N0zCxdCiDaQJQQ Graphene with Starships. ru-vid.com/group/PLAUtk-Q2DF7zvX6xltBYT8SioMONXpAMh Graphene computers. ru-vid.com/group/PLAUtk-Q2DF7yXpZ9mVoTfXdnKVp0SvF4v Quantum Levitation. ru-vid.com/group/PLAUtk-Q2DF7xhtHH43GkUn6Rk-6GgmDaE All the playlists on my other channel. ru-vid.com/show-UCB9ezXYprgvhMaPWLhyoJ7Aplaylists?view=1&sort=dd&shelf_id=0 The "About" tab on my other channel, for more info and official website links to the companies in the videos. ru-vid.com/show-UCB9ezXYprgvhMaPWLhyoJ7Aabout?disable_polymer=1

@@gameresearch9535 it is far to late to drasticly change the design. It's over 60% complete.

Yeaahh! Like a countdown to the future!

This virtual tour is a good alternative to visiting in person: static.iter.org/com/360/calendar/2019-10/

The issue is the high neutron radiation with D-T fusion. Most diagnostics are not designed to withstand the high neutron flux for long times. Also the neutron flux makes the walls radioactive so the handling of the experiment gets more difficult. It is essential to get all the plasma parameters right and fix all possible errors before you fry your diagnostics and activate the walls.

1.5x playback everything - thank me later I doubt it! Its already been designed with Beryllium for thermal and neutron management, and changing the design of something on this scale during construction is a recipe for delay, cost escalation, and likely technical failure. This is only an experiment, to prove the mechanisms and scale that should solve the problems encountered over the 100 years since fusion was postulated. Liquid surfaces have been suggested for only a relatively few years; I’m sure once more research in that field has progressed, enough will be known to decide whether to incorporate it into future plant. It certainly doesn’t make the ITER design obsolete, any more than diesel and petrol engines were obsolete on the journey from steam powered personal transport to electric vehicles.

@@andyowens5494 thanks for a thoughtful reply comrade!

1.5x playback everything - thank me later Thats a first; I can safely say no-one has ever called me “comrade” before. I can only assume you are not English, and don’t understand the cultural implications of that word (but I can’t detect a hint of your nationality from your comments).

Great question. We certainly believe funding will continue for all fusion projects, no matter who "finishes first." We all need each other to continue to inform each other's research. We support fusion projects all around the world, and our partners are definitely committed to finishing ITER, even if they are working on their own domestic fusion programs.

Nope. The writing is on the wall for ITER.

Who cares? It's not important. ITER is here to prove one thing: can we make a sustainable fusion reactor with net energy output? That's it. It's not supposed to generate electricity.

@@EaglePicking I heard that 500 MW generatiin was planned.

@@TechMasterRus That is the plan, but that's not electrical power. They want to generate that amount of power as heat energy to show you can get more energy out than in.

@@GamingWithNikolas Ok, thank you for reply. So, making first working demo plant that generates electricity will take decades more after 2035.

@@TechMasterRus sadly, as DEMO will use the data from ITER as a blueprint. This will take time, but this is also increadably complicated, so that is to be expected.

Well DEMO the one they want to build after ITER should be build in 2050. That should be the first actual fusion power plant. So just 30-40 years to fill :)

Its to early. This facility is only a test area, and it's not going to generate any electrical power. The co2 for construction on this project is going to be large, but this is not a power plant, so it cannot be compared to a power plant. When they build the DEMO reactor, then one can start making comparisons. Also, a fusion reactor produces less radioactive waste than a fission reactor, they did do the math on that. That is a good question, it just cant be answered yet.

Way to early iter is like a beta for fusion energy it's not used for grid energy production

Nope! Unlike nuclear fission reactors, there is no possibility of a "runaway reaction." Additionally, with less than 1 gram of fuel in the vacuum vessel at any given time, it is not possible for anything to explode - even though temperatures in the plasma will reach 10 times that of the core of the sun.

It is intrinsically safe. Even if you bomb it, only that bomb can explode. The fuel of this reactor type cannot start fusing uncontrolled. Because any form of damage immediately takes away the unique conditions that are needed for fusion.

Solar and wind? Is this a joke? Solar and wind are tiny, tiny energy producers and also very unreliable.

@@EaglePicking in 2019 renewables produced more electricity than nuclear plants. They grow fast and they are very cheap even today. With widely distributed generation and united energy systems, reliability won't be an issue.

Even if this is the case , having a fusion reactor its really huge man . Think about all the places that dont have acces to the solar radiation : deep space spaceships, minning asteroids , travveling throw space , Mars and Moon colonies ....This is limitless

Not really, it has taken people thousands of years to move from water to coal, 200 years to go from coal to the beginning of green energy. This is lighting fast in the grand scheme of things if you look at humanity as a whole, and not just your or my lifetimes.

@@cazymike87 Making fusion reactor IN SPACE will take a lot of time. We are not even close. BTW, Russia is going to make first nuclear-powered spacecraft with plasma thrusters by 2030. Its power will be 1 MW. Very interesting project.

Hhaaa,😁😁😁

If you understand German, I can recommend this videos with Prof. Zohm from IPP in Garching with and without the Master of Rethorik Prof. Lesch. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LIIfR665CdU.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2Pv4vQYWEuY.html he explains the reason why. The problem with nuclear fusion is not that so much concrete has to be built.

A dam and a nuclear fusion reactor aren't the same thing, are they? Hydro dams have been around since the late 1800's.

It's a hell of a lot more than concrete. Go to the website to see all they are building.

Knowledge always pays off on the long term. What we learn from this is always worth the investment. Doesn't matter if it works or not.

And how is a better understanding of Physics archieved? Through fundamental research and that is what they do. The best example would be computers: First were mechanical devieces that helped with calculations, then entire rooms of vacuum tubes and later computers made of transistors and even later integrated circuits. Now quantencomputer are researched and they look promising but are still behind. Without the research (that was mostly driven by the chance to decode messages from enemys in the future during WW2) we wouldn't have computers today. Before private companys can improve stuff like fusion we need countrys to do the fundamental research. Think of the space race. It was absolutly wastefull, but now we have satelites etc.

@@JL-pc2eh Tell me something that I don't know about computers? The resources expended and the outputs. Are you trying to say those Physicists at LHC and ITER are ripp-offs or something? I don't really understand your point, sir.

Well it will only tanke 30 years :D from now

@@Leicht_Sinn Ironic, isn't it ? :))