"ITS A DIRTY GAME!!!" Q TIP EXPLAINS HOW RECORD COMPANIES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF NEW ARTIST..(MUST SEE) 

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@MATH HOFFA say no more bro.

Why did you not see him sir? So sad!

@@TheFlite29 Close your mouth

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You also have to put in perspective not where an individual grew up at but also how the label corners these artist. Catch one at his least time with excitement by taking them somewhere and getting them food they never ate or women they never had. Also add expensive alcohol more than likely ganja and a pen and paper and bam they just signed there talent away for pennies and label will make millions.

@@carlosrob6494 That's the trick.....ignorance of the fact you don't know the "trick" does not absolve the person or individual from being tricked because at the end of the day it happened. Its on the individual to INFORM himself whether he was ignorant of the trickery, or knew but looked the other way. Business NEVER is fair, they sought to CAPITALIZE on the INVESTMENT in a cultural expression. Now a cultural expression does not represent the TOTALITY of culture but rather a business arrangement to extract profit from it. The label always will have the leverage in that situation because the CAPITAL is on their side and helps to project you to the masses. The great thing today is that rappers can prove their worth in the marketplace without a LABEL, but the sacrifice is NOT possibly being EXPOSED on a major level and/or making as much upfront bread. But how much sweat equity are you willing to put up for that SUCCESS!!!

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Exactly!!! How can someone know something they don’t know? Teach them and that excludes the shady part.

Because white record execs knew they could take advantage of poor black kids, until those kids grew up created their own labels and continued the cycle instead of breaking it. It happens to pop and country too but most of them conform because of the lifestyle.

That's false ... Lincoln park got ripped off and so did bands like incubus. Just because you dont hear about it doesn't mean it isnt happening. They screw over everybody

Absolutely

What’s his name?

TBH I think he is being a realist....you can't expect any business entity to reflect the total essence of a cultural expression. IMO no medium can truly do it. Hip-Hop culture lives with the people and expressed everyday, that's not the same as the rap business. In the industry you got to handle business to get your worth out of it. Hip-Hop culture and rap business are two different things. That has gotten lost because people equate Hip-Hop with Rap.

Nawwww what he is doing is giving the mindset of a money hungry business man. And only adding fuel to the fire, that is destroying one genre of music. Which the end result is the same, non creative artists with awful music. The truth is these labels can't afford real artists even with all the money they acquire.

@@rawfoota9386 but you don't need a label to be successful in music but you need the label to become a star. It's a difference today especially with the internet

Not if you’re on the subject of Illuminati and/or sellouts 😂💯

It's not even the same format...its just barbershop talk...its no need to even compare these two...

But you can be a dolphin and finesse the sharks by reading their game plans in their books, about laws and contracts amd how to copyr8ght and protect yourself and ownership of your craft. Even making sure you just signing distribution only deals etcetera...

@@Xman_Taurus in that case you would be a dolphin thinking like a shark. But I agree. Either way you can’t enter it assuming they will be nice to you just because you’re nice

Ever see those smaller fish ride on a sharks back? Your lawyer is the real shark! Guppies are too small to navigate all the pitfalls. Some lawyers are just guppies pretending to be sharks. Take time to find a shark and you good money.

Then give it enough time and you'll eventually create a megaladon that will eat whatever is in front of it for any reason. That's when the business guys want to bring up rules and fairness. It's just one bug carnival under the sea.

@@4theloveoffashion959 Yeah. You never hear people talk about that! Artist screw managers, agents , producers, VENUES! Then when their lil minute is over and career has turned to dust they whine on RU-vid

Circa 2003, A speech/debate team professor informed us it cost $four dollars to make Jordans. And the pay the workers $twenty-five cents a DAY to work from dusk till dawn and many of them children!!!

It's Business.

I think that's a great point but in some terms their has to be a fairness. If not then the ability to get compensation for being cheated in some way would not be possible if their wasn't any fairness to be expected at all. I think with anything it is susceptible to corruption and the unfairness is made due to those that are willing to corrupt. It also involves law and the system of the law is not fair in total but again that is corrupt due to the actors that created the laws and the inevitable flaw due to not all variables can be accounted for due to the fact that not all variables are present during the inception of the laws

It's now that the value of the brand is what people are willing to spend too much for. Marketing is just very emotionally influential nowadays.

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The labels never lose, they run radio and streaming. Only certain established Superstars can gain control of their art by owning their masters and publishing, the majority other stars rely on shows, merchandise, and touring to monetize their work. It's crazy.

I agree. Hip-Hop records labels started to adopt a more corporate tone around the mid to late 90's. At that time, Hip-Hop was starting to generate millions annually (look at labels like No-Limit, Bad Boy Entertainment).

The music business has never been fair since the Motown years of exploitating blues, rock, and early pop stars. It was those same music executives and labels that started pushing hip-hop once it proved to be the new wave and most profitable music genre. They rob these artistes blind and make it a way that exploitation is now the expected norm, easily tagged as "paying your dues" which is downright evil because there's enough money to be made in all fairness. They cornered the distribution game since they got in bed with these streaming services(Spotify, Apple, and so) running Playlists and ensuring they never lose in any sales war by controlling sales/radio, who even determines than 1500 streams is equivalent to 1 hard copy sales metrics ? They keep switching it and don't even account for radio completely dominated by the majors, payola is the norm and therein lies "marketing budget" to get spins but the industry makes it hush-hush because it's illegal.

Right? I really don’t like people like him. Get a little education and maybe do a few mid size business deals and now you’re an expert on all things business. And QTip was acknowledging that the way things are aren’t the way they should be. Ole buddy was saying the old “well that’s just the way it is….” Which isn’t helping anyone.

Any video where that dude starts to talk he just shows how much he doesn't know.

I agree with you, but using the r word is a bit much. I'm surprised RU-vid didn't ban the comment.

Mecca, dude wit dreads, very knowledgeable in da music business. Managed plenty of artists and did some A&R also... both sides have good point. Mec speaking from managing standpoint, Q tip from artists... Can't mix business and emotions

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And that’s always the problem only person (the label) usually has knowledge of terms

Eh to a degree, but playing devils advocate, if the label is investing in marketing, promotions, studio time, PR exposure, travel/food expenses etc. is it not fair that as collateral for all that investment, the label would own some of the music. I mean take the label out the equation, how many artist have the sweat equity (do for self) and/or know how to use their own money to blow themselves up in that marketplace???

Not to mention unionizing is in a effect "collectively bargaining" on behalf of all rappers. Most rappers are basically "independent contractors" to extent. Would they come together to have a representive represent their interest. IDK, some probably would do a deal with a major and take that upfront money over a collective effort for less paper but better potential long term bread. It's a sacrifice for sure tho!!!

Yeah, I agree most rappers would probably take the upfront advance labels offer rather than enter a into a collective bargaining agreement with a union, and have to pay union dues. Unions can still represent independent contractors most musicians in the musicians union are independent contractors, except for maybe the musicians on Broadway, SNL band, etc…. there is a minimum that has to be paid no matter what, but the SNL band isn’t being paid what the band in the local coffee shop is, there’s room to negotiate, but through the union. May not even be a possibility, but I think ideally rappers would be able to be signed to major, or independent labels, and have a union behind them. Not tryna promote unions in any sense they’re not perfect, but unions could also help rappers with health care, a pension, unemployment etc… if they get dropped from a label shelved, royalties, show money dries up, or whatever.

To an extent, but let's be real too....Most artist ain't got the bread all the time to invest in themselves. How many folks are willing to put in the SWEAT EQUITY to handle all the affairs that a LABEL tradtionally will do. From marketing, to promotions, to studio time, etc. all that COST. And PR teams to expose you to millions. It's a literal machine against your 5-10 man operation. Independence is great, but its a sacrifice. And that sacrifice comes at a cost, no one is exempt!!! Even Tech Nine type had to put that 10 years of work to establish his quality fanbase, touring 9 months a yr, a strict touring schedule, showing up on time, spending that time with a fanbase to gain supporters. IT's WORK!! While investing the same money you made back into yourself and your music. This is before you even see a PROFIT!!!