J.C. Leyendecker = Before Norman Rockwell

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@MichaelPhillipsatGreyOwlStudio 3 месяца назад

I LOVE Leyendecker! Fantastic artist.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching. 🌈🎨

@andythompson6874 3 месяца назад

Leyendecker! I am embarrassed to admit I had never before heard of him. Whereas Norman Rockwell presented a more wholesome "Mayberry-ish" depiction of America, Leyendecker was in a completely different "art-deco-ish" league. The chiseled features of the athletes reminded me of Greco-Roman-Florentine sculptures, and the debonair, stylish clothing of his subjects were masterpieces, I feel. I must learn more.

@greggoreo6738 3 месяца назад

P.s. a Nation buries a leyendecker b cause J. C. was too homo erotic. By the way... The announcer is miss pronouncing the man's last name.it's more OFTEN pronounced --- "LINE"/decker. Respectfully submitted for your consideration Gregg Oreo Long Beach CA Etats Unis

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Don't be embarrassed...I do art for a living and only recently learned his named. Though I've admired his work for years. Just didn't think to look into who was behind it. Like Rockwell, he had his Americana side too. Their biggest differences, from my POV, is their age difference and sexuality. Leyendecker was living his BEST life in the 1920s while Rockwell was just a whipper snapper. Also, I think Rockwell was from a small town. Maybe? :-)

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the correction and POV, Gregg. The AI narrator did better than I would have. I’ve been pronouncing it “LAY-en-deck-er.” But I’m originally from the South so tend to draw things out. One of the reasons I prefer this method. lol

@flapjackfae 3 месяца назад

Thank you for this. His art was beautiful. Once in a while, I'll spot a man - a certain kind of handsome, clearly knows it probably a bit of a snob - and even though no one else knows the reference, I say, "Arrow Shirt man."

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

I have a feeling Leyendecker would LOVE that. He'd love it more if it came with a commission for a new ad, but he seemed well aware of his talent...and tastes. :-)

@rjcarter2904 3 месяца назад

Fascinating. I had never heard of him. What a wonderful illustrator.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

He younger, straighter protegé took all the glory, but Rockwell was super deferential during his day: “I began working for The Saturday Evening Post in 1916 and Leyendecker was my God.” Norman Rockwell Ironically, Leyedecker had a younger brother who was ALSO a Post illustrator. Their work is so similar I've been finding lots of it mislabelled all over the interwebs. Big brother got the spotlight in that family.

@rjcarter2904 3 месяца назад

@@CollidePressToo Fascinating information. Of course, I know Rockwell (and have a signed print...lol), but I did not know of his predecessor whom he obviously revered. Thank you

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Go, art collector! I didn't realize it either. If you go on The Post's website, their archive has SO MANY great illustrators I don't know.

@yfrontsguy 3 месяца назад

He sure did have an eye for a beautiful guy !

@craigathonian 3 месяца назад

Thanks for such a beautifully produced homage to one of my favorite artist & illustrators. As a young artist his works were a big influence on me, especially with his techniques and compositions. His Art Deco "colored" creations really stood out amongst all the black & white photography for that period. In my life, the words sung by Nat King Cole, really puts it perfectly, J.C. Leyendecker truly was and is.... Unforgettable ❣

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Coming from a fellow artist, this means a lot. Honestly, I didn't know his name (just his work) until a few months ago. And the more I've scratched the surface on him, the more I want to know. Thank you!

@SergejBerezovskij 2 месяца назад

Спасибо

@wellesradio 3 месяца назад

I have numerous books of his prints and illustrations. Great artist.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Indeed he is. A friend just gifted me a couple of books. 🥰🌈✌️

@normanduke8855 3 месяца назад

Mind boggling, he's so good.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

And so bloody prolific. He seemed to be able to do it all...and did it for YEARS. What I didn't mention is his younger brother was also a talented illustrator. Not sure about the brother's sexuality, but they both worked at the Post for a time.

@williamwebb7917 3 месяца назад

Great video. Very talented artist. Thanks for sharing.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed it...thanks for the kind comment!

@williamschlenger1518 3 месяца назад

J.C. Leyendecker was always one of my favorites.👍

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Mine too!

@bahoonies 2 месяца назад

I love Leyendecker's works. When I look at the elegance and style he portrays, I find myself wondering what has gone so badly wrong with the way men dress today.

@CollidePressToo 2 месяца назад

Haha. There are still some stylish folks, but they are definitely the exception not the rule. Leyendecker's work set a very high bar. Love it. Thanks for watching!

@goodmanvolley 3 месяца назад

Timeless.

@thomaskeiper4534 3 месяца назад

Absolutely love ❤ Leyendecker’s work. It’s so incredibly amazing. ❤❤❤ Wish that I could afford a piece. But much much bigger than my wallet. Good news is that I can admire and appreciate it from a distance in such videos as this. Thank you. 😊

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

We feel you! That's why we have some of prints of his works in our shop. So we can afford them too. :-) Thank you for watching. Should be posting on the main channel by end of the day. Hurray!

@d4l3d 3 месяца назад

As an artist I was familiar with his work and immediately saw his influence in the contemporary "Boardwalk Empire"

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Very cool. I think I only saw the pilot, but might need to revisit. Thanks!

@djs2356 3 месяца назад

Fantastic!

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Many thanks!

@raymondwolken7975 3 месяца назад

Like many gay artists Leyendecker included his partner in many of his works as his model and both were beautiful men. What a life and time he had. Thanks for bringing this to life.❤😊

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Thank you for watching and commenting. 🌈❤️

@PSPguy2 3 месяца назад

One of my favorite artists! His life story is rather interesting also which you can find videos about. 👍

@juinor67 3 месяца назад

Very cool. Will definitely look them up!

@SaraMercer-v6i 3 месяца назад

Wonderful style, texture and depth. Gorgeous

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

He was definitely a master at his art and craft. Thanks for watching!

@judithlauron2856 3 месяца назад

Great stuff….enjoyed everything. Terrific artist.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Thank you kindly! Glad you enjoyed. 🌈✌️

@timothyhoran9521 3 месяца назад

Great artist

@jimkreider9997 3 месяца назад

Excellent

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Thank you so much! 🌈✌️🎨

@lagincourt 3 месяца назад

His brother, Frank LINE-decker, did similar work, so be careful when looking at their work. Both made great illustrations of beautiful men!

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the correction and warning. I did find several works credited as by J.C. that were signed Frank X. Amazing they both were so talented. And that people can’t read a signature. Frank’s was very legible. J.C.’s very original. lol

@philmcdonald6088 20 дней назад

🔥

@CollidePressToo 20 дней назад

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@gojewla 2 месяца назад

I think Rockwell was also more popular because he had more humor in his work in general, and I think people responded to that.

@CollidePressToo 2 месяца назад

Agreed. Especially after the Great Depression and WWII, the folksy humor/nostalgia of Rockwell was definitely more popular than the sophisticated style so popular in the Leyendecker’s work. Love they became at least friendly. Rockwell called Leyendecker a “god.”

@douglasthompson296 3 месяца назад

G'morning Clint he was a very accomplished artist of the human form from the images you've posted. I personally enjoyed the sports themed images the most. I wonder if 'that look' was his secret desires away from his otherwise ethereal male look? The image of the youth getting his first(?) grown up suit so reminded me of my first grown up suit too. Back then it was custom to only have casual trousers and coat till you were a teen then you were taken for a first suit, for best occasions, I remember it so well, in time for Easter 😎 Cheers DougT 🇫🇴

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

From my reading, Leyendecker was less secret about his desires than most in his day. His New York gay parties in the Roaring 20s sound like a hoot...surprised he got away with as much as he did for as long as he did. A long, productive career. Always loved his work, before I even knew his name or story. Cheers to you and your first suit!

@douglasthompson296 3 месяца назад

@@CollidePressToo Of course I grew up in a woolen cloth manufacturing area and a major tailoring city close by. It was easy to buy a 'suit length' of cloth and so many tailors who would come to your house to measure you up and do a fitting before the suit duly arrived. It marked your transition from a boy to a youth, your first real suit. These days that doesn't happen 😔 Rose tinted spectacle reminiscences time again 😄 Cheers DougT 🇫🇴

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Sounds like a proper tradition I wish I had had. I grew up with clip-on ties and suits from Sears. Doh. Given Manchester's past and present, something tells me you'd enjoy this doc, if you haven't already seen it: www.justwatch.com/us/movie/suited Not sure what's available to you, but Just Watch is a great (international) resource for streaming films.

@Jericho50 3 месяца назад

I never knew about him. What a talent. Great to see gay heroes. Thank you for this!

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

He's a fascinating once I recently learned about too. Thanks for watching!

@JCJasion 3 месяца назад

More and more are surfacing.

@juinor67 3 месяца назад

Thank you for introducing me to J.C. Leyendecker and his work! Wonderful! I’m going to seriously look into collecting his work and put together a portfolio. His works should be celebrated like Warhol’s.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

That’s awesome! I’ve been thinking about Warhol. He was such a collector, he likely collected him too. ✌️🌈❤️

@nancymcclain2533 3 месяца назад

So was NC Wyeth

@dwsheffer 3 месяца назад

I have some of his covers in my collection but didn't really know much about him. They appealed to me as the men most always have a homoerotic look to them...

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

I think a lot of us gravitated to them. Even our art tastes have gaydar. :-)

@joewright6455 3 месяца назад

Thank you for this gay history lesson. Love your work!

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Awwww...thank you! Love learning more about our history. Glad others do too. 🌈✌️

@rafaellewis4528 3 месяца назад

LEYENDECKER- all the way!

@michaelmcgee8543 3 месяца назад

Interesting!

@eduardodifarnecio2336 3 месяца назад

There was the Gibson girl,who epitomized the beauty and charm of the girl of the gay nineties, and then there was the arrow collar man who did the same for boys. Leyendecker was the artist behind him. Oh, btw, Rockwell was a protégés of his. Also, you left out the subversive quality of his homoeroticism. He was a very glamorous figure of the era something like photographers Steven Meisel, Bruce Webber or Avedon were of theirs. it’s sad but maybe not surprising that no films have been made about him but there should be. His studio was in a building on Bryant park in NYC. The building is still there.

@2511thai 3 месяца назад

As a gay man, I could tell the person who drew the pictures was gay. I had a gut feeling. We gay men like to look at handsome, athletic tall men. ❤😊

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

I do think there's something to our art tastes having gaydar. That said, I just love looking at men. And women too. Though I do tend to look at them...differently. As for types of men, I'm an equal opportunity eye candy fan. "Handome" is subjective and tall...eh, I'm tall enough and don't see anything that special about it except my feet hang off most beds and clothing options are more limited. :-p

@2511thai 3 месяца назад

@@CollidePressToo You know what I mean, we gay men like to look at eye candy. Growing up all of my previous boyfriends have been jock. Football players, water polo players, swimmers, and Lacrosse players.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

You're a sporty spice kinda guy. I tend to go for thicker guys, but they're all pretty to me. Water polo, huh? Nice. :-)

@charlesprice925 3 месяца назад

Now there are those that would call him too sentimental and patriotic. Ya can't win. But no one remembers the critic. Just the artist.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Well said. Reminds me of a favorite quote: “If it is art, it is not for all, and if it is for all, it is not art.” Arnold Schoenberg

@TMendocino 3 месяца назад

I went to see the Norman Rockwell exhibit, great snapshots of Americana. I did not know about Leyendecker, but you can certainly see Tom of Finland in this art. 😉

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Wow! Bet that was an amazing show. From my reading, while very different kinds of men, they were very similar artists and despite their age difference (~20 years) they became friends while working together: “I began working for The Saturday Evening Post in 1916 and Leyendecker was my God.” Norman Rockwell As for Tom Of Finland...never thought of it, but can definitely see it!

@oltedders 3 месяца назад

Tom of Finland has absolutely no visual reference to Leyendecker beyond both illustrating men. Leyendecker's men are only incidentally homoerotic. Tom of Finland's is nothing but.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

All art and artists influence each other.

@oltedders 3 месяца назад

@@CollidePressToo Your overly broad generalization isn't totally convincing. I'm not buying it.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Oh. Well. Take your rude tude elsewhere. Thanks.

@timward3116 3 месяца назад

Every bit as good as Rockwell, and in many ways, much better. Both portrayed a idealized American culture, but Rockwell's art always suggested a castrated, Puritanical, ideal. Leyendecker, on the other hand, infused almost every illustration with a simmering, seductive sexuality - particularly male sexuality... and he not only portrayed it but celebrated its beauty. I had never heard of this guy. Thanks for the video!

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

They were definitely different kind of people. Amazingly, they seem to have been good colleagues and friends, despite a ~20 year age difference. Rockwell definitely looked up and respected him.

@photosbyjf 3 месяца назад

before even seeing anything other than his work I could sense a gay vibe in his works. Magnificent works

@keithjones9546 3 месяца назад

It is not hyperbole to say that his work could be breathtaking at times.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

That's for sure. Few "commercial" artists bring such a personal style to their work.

@donaldauguston9740 3 месяца назад

Thank you for this video. I just bought a book about his art. I have one hanging in my den but did not know his name.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

That's AMAZING. I too have been a fan of many of his works, never knowing it was all from one man. With a great story. Probably the most successful gay artist until Warhol came around.

@mattbosley3531 3 месяца назад

I could tell he was gay before you said it just from seeing his art. I was not familiar with him but I'm glad you brought him to my attention.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Yeah, gaydar seems to work for art too. Weird but fun. Glad you enjoyed his work.

@WatchingYoutube737 3 месяца назад

That 30 Rock joke now makes sense.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Fill me in? I never watched. :-p

@WatchingYoutube737 3 месяца назад

@@CollidePressToo Alec Baldwin character is so handsome, he was compared to an arrow shirt model by a very old man. The episode is called ludachristmas

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Love it. Wonder if Alec just heard handsome and tuned out. lol

@Mntguy-nr9vl 3 месяца назад

He deserves a full length movie maybe Spielberg or somebody that can do his life justice because I had not heard of him before today and I have to believe it's because he was a homosexual.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

I’d love to see a biopic or doc. Given Rockwell’s popularity, a LOT of talented artists who worked at The Post aren’t as remembered. I do think his German heritage and name likely contributed to him not being remembered as much as his homosexuality. I think. Still need to do more research. Thanks for watching!

@jackfriend4u 3 месяца назад

Leyendecker's work is wonderful. another amazing (and queer) -artist who possibly didn't get enough recognition... because of that? Seems the less you lied about a factor of your life the less history wanted to know...and now everyone wants to know everything!...when it's often far too late to get information from the people involved. JCL would be a good subject for an incisive and loving (and lovingly illustrated) documentary or biographic film. to watch a film that itself looks like a Leyendecker illustration would be a feast for the eyes!! it'd be sumptuous, sexy and vey tactile. this feels like a step toward that.

@CollidePressToo 3 месяца назад

Given how much his Post colleagues (including Rockwell) respected Leyendecker, I think it might have as much to do with post-WWI sentiment about Germans as it did about his homosexuality. He was fairly open (in NYC) during his life, but not sure how much anyone anywhere else knew (or cared) at that point. But his name...German. :-p “I began working for The Saturday Evening Post in 1916 and Leyendecker was my God.” Norman Rockwell Also, Rockwell was sooooo popular, he likely dimmed the light on a bunch of equally-talented artists and illustrators of his era. Many of whom worked for the Post (and similar magazines).