J. Krishnamurti and Huston Smith - Authority is destructive - Claremont 1968

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J. Krishnamurti - Claremont 1968 - Conversation with Huston Smith - Authority is destructive
Summary:
Sanity is order. This order comes about naturally, without any effort, if we understand disorder.
Action can only take place when you see actually the nature of disorder in one's own life, which is causing such havoc. What you are, you project in the world.
Observation through an image is a wastage of energy, and you need energy to change 'what is'.
How is one to live a life that is completely orderly, without any contradiction?
Order doesn't exist within the field of consciousness.
You can only look completely if your mind is quiet.
Is there something which is not put together by the mind, by thought, by imagination? Is there something which is not measurable, which man has been seeking for thousands and thousands of years?
Q: If I am free of fear and my mind is quiet, would I be looking for anything?
What is the machinery that forms the image?
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@bobsarfatty4673 2 года назад

It's amazing how many people have never heard of this great man.

@guud Год назад

@@georgeeskiadis5637 sure, but I would say comment was on general population, censorship on him, not letting his life to be well known among others who didnt say do or even think remotely like K with such truth to be spread. we got everythign else indeed, for you or him or even me, it is easy. shame..

@rahul30393 Год назад

The misery of man!

@karanagrawal8499 Год назад

Real knowingly suppression

@linettewhite2122 Год назад

It appears to have been a secret

@kathleenc8810 10 месяцев назад

It may be because most people don't get his teaching and/or don't care enough to keep trying to understand and they are content with easy answers.

@mikibrevi 2 года назад

" The How should never enter into the mind!" Best teacher of the last 200 years!!

@kozisix 2 года назад

Feel like encaging in a conversation of the quote that struck you?

@linettewhite2122 Год назад

Brilliant 👏

@travelwithabishek2868 3 года назад

His works are much needed now more than ever amidst the Gurus of these days ! Thanks to the foundation for keeping his works alive.

@elamaru9355 2 года назад

which i heard one say more or less that he is too intelectual and even out of the path a bit Which now that i understand him is not true

@solomit1 3 года назад

This conversation is great it shows difficulty of the intellect which is heavily conditioned to grasp understand truth that is why we are in such a mess

@eastwood1941 2 года назад

"The craving for authority derives from fear." How true, and so relevant to these craven, fear-ridden Covid times.

@ellechi7337 2 года назад

Watching K talks is always fascinating. We can feel his strong passion 💙

@lynnstarkey8487 5 лет назад

The cognitive block in Professor Smith was completely challenged... yet he was aware enough to see ( what is) in this respect: when he replied to Krishnaji by saying...." this is a hard teaching".....the beauty of this meeting and that it is on film is priceless, and the utter truth about the false is apparent, and that fact left alone..can reveal the truth about the Truth....I am simply grateful.

@slavomirakrasna2111 2 года назад

Gosh, obe learns something new every day. So the truth is not enough, now there has to be the truth about the truth itself🙄

@unusualpond 3 года назад

It’s remarkable how difficult the prof finds it to accept that the desire to solve the problem of fear stands in the way of learning about fear. It’s basic science that the experiment must be undertaken without an expected outcome.

@goddessvibes2345 6 месяцев назад

Years ago, My boyfriend suggested for me to watch this. At that time, it made no sense to me and I found myself feeling frustrated. Fast forward years later and it makes sense to me now. Everyone is on their own journey of learning and understanding and when the time comes, it will make perfect sense ❤

@Tea-tl2pv 2 года назад

This is just too terrific!!! The Prof is pushing - pushing - without calming down to perceive or understand. What patience JK shows - such humility! Such honesty!

@lokidlow7847 11 месяцев назад

True, and how quickly he moves from hurts, amazing..

@salaiasa-ut5rg 8 месяцев назад

I second, so amusing and intriguing

@counterintuitivepanda4555 28 дней назад

Unfortunately he was short on time to really go into these issues. Only an hour. It wasn't completely his fault. He had a certain job to do.

@andrewlarson1308 8 месяцев назад

Every time I watch this video, in particular, I always see something new, I am completely listening with all of my body. Jiddu has a remarkable way of conveying what he means through the most simplest word forms as well as how he uses his body to personify his feelings through what he is saying, so he is not only saying the things, but acting it out physically because he is feeling what he is saying in relation to what he is saying. It's like watching a master paint a beautiful portrait. He is using all of his intelligence in one time. At once. Purely amazing....

@oziologyify 3 года назад

This is beautiful.

@amandeepkaursohal548 3 года назад

Unbelievable and mesmerizing.

@peymanazad7144 6 месяцев назад

this conversation is a miracle for the awakening of man. this is really a masterpiece . K is love. K is sun. we should listen to this for many times to understand totally what it means and then you are free for whole life.. K is a gift of universe.

@TheCoin100 3 месяца назад

in all honesty he would probably get agitated and tell you to f off and stop worshipping him if you said this to him.. i'm not trying to be hurtful, so don't take offense pls, i'm just being honest abt what i think

@trewthhip-hop1858 Год назад

Huston Smith did exactly what he was meant to do as did J.K. absolutely phenomenal

@DihkFace_Mcghee Год назад

Smith was trying to trap k into his smiths owns versions. Tricky tricky. K would never get trapped by your deceptions.

@maracummings9767 Год назад

What great talk! Thank you for sharing it with us!

@abhi0227 4 года назад

Such a beautiful talk. Thank you for sharing.

@marinorizzi2049 3 года назад

Merci

@inspiregrow2336 2 года назад

Thank you very much for uploading

@DihelsonMendonca 8 месяцев назад

😂😂😂 Some years ago, I watched this interview, and I felt myself so stupid, because I didn't understand a thing. So, I began studying Krishnamurti, and his thousands of videos. And I finally got it. Today I revisited this video, and I understood it perfectly. I feel pity for the interviewer, because he's not understanding K. He tries to approach it intellectually, and it's all so simple. What makes difficult is only the way that Krishnamurti uses the words. He's very precise in using every word. He's brilliant and he's struggling to make the man understand the most basic principles. 🎉🎉❤❤❤

@friendsnote.1013 17 дней назад

That’s good. 👍 Now you have to even drop his “teachings” and find the truth yourself. If not, we will be also based on his authority. Great blessings my friend. 🙌.

@mkc0321 3 года назад

What amazing conversation

@tracnguyenvan7477 2 года назад

That's very wonderful ! Thank you very much !

@scottyben191 2 года назад

Krishnamurti is amazing. This deserves many more views. His books are excellent btw!

@ivorybids698 3 года назад

Wow, very good. Thank you so much

@kamaurahamukti5919 4 месяца назад

just BRILLIANT ✨✨✨, where Krishnamurti is coming from and getting at. just the other man remains blocked in his intellect, thus not allowing intelligence to come through. Thank you for posting the conversation. greetings from Kenya 🙏🏽😇🇰🇪

@randomawareness5952 2 года назад

Thank you for not making it short as 30 min ❤️

@clodhopper-dodo 2 года назад

I am truly blessed. Find a great significance of life with complete freedom

@quemaravilha 2 года назад

What a mind! ❤️

@yogi5573 2 года назад

One of the sayings of JK which ultimately is so true 'Silence stops the time'

@melvandusen1924 3 года назад

Brilliant and beautiful and hilarious and ridiculous. K's teaching has never been more clear. Smith has unintentionally brought out the best in K, but can't see it.

@slavomirakrasna2111 2 года назад

Had no idea K was giving his second best on other occasions🤔

@aarushrathore1276 2 года назад

@@slavomirakrasna2111 woah!!!

@ritesharora6032 2 года назад

@@slavomirakrasna2111 what do u mean ?

@mohammedirfan8027 3 года назад

Beautiful

@kamalhalder4106 2 года назад

always love K. thanks for upload.

@rohinir5744 Год назад

Thankyou a ton j Krishnamurthy foundation

@nightdruid540 3 года назад

the loveliest conversation :'))

@celinecloutier763 2 года назад

Brilliant attempt speak of the darkness of human mind....🙏

@errol-ih4jy 4 года назад

an intellectual, can never understand Krishnamurti, because that intellect is his barrier to the truth, this is the case with Huston Smith.

@ennuied 3 года назад

a man is his own obstacle

@tonyxparker 3 года назад

@@theemiddleone yea he did try and thats the point he didn't give his total attention to the way . His thoughts were in conflict . The barrier was his thought .

@aman.kataria 3 года назад

We are all speculating, the truth is we all know nothing.

@sofiray987 2 года назад

this guy not human

@Tea-tl2pv 2 года назад

Not necessarily intellect being barrier I would also say a lack Of humility and more importantly just plain honesty. Difficult to grapple with Truth - as is - which is what JK dishes out. Not intellectual mind games as he himself said. Either you want to Understand or not ...IMHO

@mmamassmemoryart2346 5 лет назад

Ooooooo what an energy !!!!!!!

@kathleenc8810 2 года назад

I don't think K was trying to throw Smith off balance, like Smith thought, I think Smith wasn't understanding him, because what K said made sense to me. It took me awhile to get to a place where I could understand him.

@WesterlyDreamer Год назад

Oh how wonderful!

@vinp6093 9 месяцев назад

Simply Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!

@kamesh7818 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing such a wonderful discussion. I ponder - Is intellect a pompous way to obscure essence of being.

@Tea-tl2pv 2 года назад

Well said!

@originalandrewmark 2 года назад

Seems Dr. Smith demonstated this at HIS astonishment clearly visible.

@maheshn9970 9 месяцев назад

Amazing ❤

@gaurav3290 2 года назад

Wonderful conversation 😍 Comments section here are full of judgments towards JK and interviewer. I think, interviewer has given his best. Look at your conditioning before judging some one.

@lex.cordis 2 года назад

In what way was this a "conversation"?

@danielu1763 2 года назад

So your judgement is that we should stop judging. Thank you.

@aleksabisercic1410 Год назад

Amazing.

@vimalsingh3566 2 года назад

I dont know how to put it, but let me try. Seeing just a tiny little bit of what JK is showing us. I can say that he was so radical, its hard to imagine how brilliant a mind his was. Seeing te world through his eyes must be so so lovely. We cannot imagine that. But its for all of us to see, to taste , to smell. Only if we endeavour. I will ...

@linettewhite2122 Год назад

You nailed it 👏

@Ashishization1 4 года назад

So true..sooo true

@zoojay123 Год назад

Simply marvelous...one of my favourite talks....💙

@manumaster1990 2 года назад

very nice

@flushhh4543 3 года назад

Great interviewer

@Inner-wellbeing 2 года назад

Few people could understand JKM- he was ahead of his time, a pioneer of the “enlightenment revolution.” He was absolutely wonderful.

@linettewhite2122 Год назад

Disagree, I understood his every word so many could understand if it was presented by himself very elementary

@chandrasekharbhagavatula6706 3 года назад

Thought can never be new…it is a manifestation of the memory

@bodhiheeren 2 года назад

If that's the case how come we are not still living in the Stone Age? Technical inventions, artistic inventions etc. etc. are they not a product of new thoughts?

@vicenciaequ2864 2 года назад

That's so true!

@celebritytrader5353 2 года назад

Booodhi… technical inventions and artistic inventions are creative thoughts, not brand new thoughts which are manifestation of same memory. Thoughts can not exist without memory…Creative thoughts came from the content and different processing of memory.

@kandukurisrinivasrao3864 3 года назад

There are thoughts that walk alone- Sri Aurobindo One should find ones own method, a pill is for self dissolution not for self inspection. JK is a catalyst for human freedom.

@sandeeptyagi11101 4 месяца назад

brilliant

@tav46254 7 месяцев назад

What did I just listen to! ❤

@daliakrinsky4895 2 года назад

Every word. Truth.

@MrRoNiGio 2 года назад

Είσαι θεος

@mmamassmemoryart2346 5 лет назад

😍 toooooooo much

@freebazar.online 3 года назад

knowledge puffs up

@folclorescent Год назад

Via Negativa: Finding truth thru negations.

@rk18j Год назад

This conversation is a very good example intelligence which is conditioned of the past verses the real, the truth

@guud Год назад

and now 40y later, war is for real everyday thing that we even don't react on it at all.. consuming war. routine. daily news. thank you on this video :)

@lmansur1000 2 года назад

EXCELLENT!! I get it!

@johnbryant6610 2 года назад

I think that we have to take in consideration the era when this interview took place when questioning why it's so hard for professor Smith to grasp this concept on authority. J.K. is simply stating that there should not be an intermediary between our conscious selves and our source. Our society was built on the concept of needing an intermediary, albeit solely for the benefit of the intermediarys of course!

@butterfly.spirit 2 года назад

facing fear, means; you dont have fear from fear...wow!

@jiffylimborks 11 месяцев назад

when the mind that focusing elements encounter the heart that experienced holistic... it was great.

@yvesguillaumond 3 года назад

🙏✨

@uhhdudeuhhwhatsup Месяц назад

The discovery of truth is often accidental, never through deliberately seeking it

@aliquran7535 Год назад

Smith is not seen what Jiddu is pointing out, it goes back to conversations on solving fear, how one can solve what he fears? One must face it, if you face fear, it is no longer fear. Jiddu is one of a mirror. ❤

@endingofworldmovies798 11 месяцев назад

Yes , we have to face the fear without choice or duality need to walk thought it without creating any conflict then it will become nothing.

@ramborn9 2 года назад

If the video is muted, you’d probably assume that Huston was the man of great spiritual acclaim and that Krishnamurti was the foreigner seeking understanding in strange lands

@sudarshanbadoni6643 2 года назад

By listening this most complex taking ,wild part of my Gene's told me that in cognitive evolution path fearful rats were first created be consumed by snakes and owl and then fearless cats who occupied top position being " AWARE ALWAYS ALL THE TIME " and strategic as well giving us a chance onwards be called homosapien. Thanks for uploading this seer in his prime and peak performance.

@ritesharora6032 2 года назад

start with his school discussions. they are easy

@divyeshprajapati7624 3 года назад

Intellect is abstract and void is wholeness"

@wicomms 2 года назад

I get why ppl are upset with Smith. Clearly he wants to be told what to do. He doesn't want to free the mind. But his voice reminds me of the calmness of Carl Sagan. The "how" threw him off.. JK is so right that the how must be put aside.

@willyheeren4502 3 года назад

Krishnamurti is clear in his opinion that thought is not the way. je present that's the way☺

@TheMonacarol 3 года назад

❤️❤️

@yeseniareyes09 3 дня назад

41:36 casual slay by J krishnamurti lol. Love him so much. Rest well ❤

@thejvmaster 6 месяцев назад

❤

@Manuel-zz1nz 3 года назад

Serious and funny talk.

@maaritlaatikainen7419 2 года назад

A light in the darkness. 😃 Words, models and systems may help to see the reality from a new perspective. However, they are not the same as reality, only a pale picture of it. So direct contact with reality, with what is, with facts without any authority, not even with him, is important.

@RaushanKumar-sd5qn Год назад

Legend JK, Interviewer getting Interviewed

@musto121 2 года назад

JK: What does it mean to learn? HS: Are you asking me? JK: Obviously ....

@viainsight 2 года назад

😆

@r3b3lvegan89 3 года назад

"in science there are no authorities only experts" carl Sagan and Im not even into Sagan much anymore but even he couldn't deny that authority is a construct of the ego

@originalandrewmark 2 года назад

Agreed. However his fiction "Contact" is sublime and the movie even more so.

@phnx4life 8 месяцев назад

I'd say it is...destroying mankind still today.

@aek12 2 года назад

slave of words. Indeed

@friendsnote.1013 17 дней назад

I agree with Krishnamurti. Religions in a certain way separate humanity despite its good intent. Why must there be Buddhist, Hindu, Christians and others - that’s fragmentation. The “you” and “me.” Scriptures and books only point the way but they also hinder our finding the truth because this is authority humanity depends and believes it can help them… In sincerity I respect all religions but after listening to Jiddu Krishnamurti I am beginning to see where I am going if I continue to live based on authority, no matter how ancient they are. Krisnanmurti’s message - we even have to drop his teachings to find out ourselves…🙏🙏🙏

@quemajor 2 года назад

A confused mind will always go about wandering around

@Sunil-zv3gv 3 года назад

47:00 - 50:46 50:47 - 1:01:20 beautiful ✨

@AnthonyHoward-ru8su 5 месяцев назад

There is much that could be said of an individual becoming free from their own inner authority as it is more difficult to grasp as an idea than becoming free from outer authority

@sherpa-2413 Год назад

Professor shows very funny face when he says " How ? ? ....... " that very interesting , and that time he think " again again I am repeating how ? " 　he recognize his own thinking way . There is energy . 教授の楽しげな表情また「どうしたら　？？　」を言っているなと気づくその表情が、興味深い。彼は自身の思考に気づいている。そこには活力がある。

@aliquran7535 Год назад

He beautiful

@intothespace.....9442 2 года назад

Amazing man JK!

@uschischueller4643 2 года назад

Huston Smith is a Saint

@luffyd.monkey7171 2 года назад

Lots of Krishnamurti fanboys in here dumping on my boy Huston Smith, but I think he pushed back on some important points: namely, the necessity of individuality for true relationship, and getting Krishnamurti to at least admit that we must contend with the past.

@Njoussama 3 года назад

30:28 To face something implies a mind that does not want to solve the problem of fear.

@alexisbianco158 2 года назад

Good point. I think he meant, a conditioned mind does not want to solve the problem of fear. And the fear is there because the mind is conditioned.

@slavomirakrasna2111 2 года назад

No. He says it is the conditioned mind only that wants to solve any kind of problem.

@aprk 5 месяцев назад

Authority Is Destructive, starts and ends when a man introduces himself as an authority at 1:00.

@Tea-tl2pv 2 года назад

How educative and (tragically) entertaining! A Prof at MIT no less! in Philosophy no less!! But what a divide ...

@ptanji 2 года назад

Yes. The great divide! How refreshing after all these years!

@MikeB-in1nd 2 года назад

Huston had all the knowledge and missed everything K was saying because the knowledge got in the way of seeing

@ennuied 3 года назад

the guy is a wordsmith, he's a slave to words

@robbinpapalucas4620 3 года назад

Which guy are you referring too?

@gagannagpal7558 2 года назад

Why y all criticizing huston ? He wants to learn and is struggling like I am. Krishnamurty might have took several years to realize that.

@ritchienegrea5779 3 года назад

Wow this guy smith. Was the wrong man to do this interview big time. He was quick to respond which explains that he had no idea what the master is talking about...

@DihkFace_Mcghee Год назад

All the way up to 40:50. If it didn't sink in for me before this. It did now.