J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1970 - Public Talk 4 - What is meditation?

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J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1970 - Public Talk 4 - What is meditation?
Summary:
In meditation what is the place of search?
Can one bring about order without understanding disorder?
Is control necessary for order? Why do we need control when there is understanding of 'what is'?
Without love, that is not touched by pleasure,
meditation is self-hypnosis.
Can a petty mind experience anything other than its own projections and activities? To see clearly musn't the mind be quiet?
If you have this extraordinary thing going on in your life, then it is everything. Then you are the teacher, the student, the beauty of the cloud, and that is love.
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@rainrichards8068 2 года назад

"Somebody someday will understand this" very true

@WellDoneWD 8 месяцев назад

Yes

@juliangiulio3147 3 года назад

He makes me laugh. Always says the same kinds of things, and then stops and wonders if 'anyone gets it', if it is 'worth going on'... He has the innocence and enthusiasm, direct-honesty and freedom of a child with the wisdom of a deep sage...

@siamakafiat7517 3 года назад

You are correct, another words he is trying to push us humans To higher Dimension which is free of Suffering

@hintergedankee 2 года назад

Everytime I listen to those same things after some time, I get more deeper insight. So I guess he is saying it again and again so as to check if you are really observing yourself seriously or not. Otherwise words will be just words.

@drsarahthomas4725 2 года назад

Be aware of that laughter also

@iman20072 2 года назад

@@siamakafiat7517 there is no highter

@ConsistenTea Год назад

same things, as truth is simple, as they say.

@skywalkerflix2338 2 года назад

This was before my time and I recently got to know JK. He is extremely special person and to be among us in our generation we should be very lucky and be thankful. 🙏🙏🙏

@sanketsirsat6670 3 года назад

" It doesnt mind i will go on because somebody someday will understand " one of best words [ At 54.00 ]

@fearlesswings2731 3 года назад

Initially it's difficult to understand k but as you listen to more and more of k you will understand. He is most authentic and real.

@Radhacharananurage 3 года назад

One can point the door but we have to walk to that door by ourselves. Concludes everything! Thank you so much sir for point to that door 🙏 Thanks to this era of technology and social media as well through which we can see you and listen to you everyday! May all the beings be awaken!

@suyashsharnagat2912 2 года назад

Listening his video is a meditation itself !!! Journey together

@j.miguel6193 8 месяцев назад

It is because you are attentive to the sound, now try to be attentive to your mind, it will slowly become silent 😊

@normal1person-ns3ws Год назад

33:16 start what is meditation 40:00 how to do it

@theabhijitsaha 10 месяцев назад

never heard such a fearless,confident and clear talk from anybody in the earth really from heart....

@corpuscallosum4677 7 лет назад

Humanity is like a big garden, there're sages, roses, sunflowers, morning glories, lotus, crabgrass,even poison ivy. Sages spread their fragrance and try to awaken others. To live to our full potential is still the rights and responsibilities of each unique individual. The Truth that pointed out by each sage is still limited by their individual embodiment, time, space, length of existence, conditioning. We can only be inspired (in-spirit) by them, but following will be blind, against our own life force and hinder our growth. Imbibe the energy: Order, Love, Equality, Justice, Freedom, Intelligence, Joy, sparkling, pulsating, propelling in this beautiful garden we called humanity! Thanks K and friends.

@DilbagSingh-sp2yp Год назад

Yes humanity is a big garden and somehow if one can see and feel it clearly hatred will have no ground , what a blessing to have those eyes ah.

@rakpoo 3 года назад

First of all I would like to thanks to this great human being (seems like God🤐,)for sharing this honest and pure knowledge because my own experience in life after listening to so many gurus this lecture was really a eye opener and believe me if any body will follow this lecture practically in life not merely intellactualy then life will totally transform.. I am so lucky to listen to this eye opener life transforming wonderful lecture 🙏🙏

@ion669 Год назад

I started his second or third video in this series where he talks about fear, and as he pointed i ended it without what i used to call fear and a new beginning altogether.

@j.miguel6193 8 месяцев назад

The Anti-guru, he has the kingdom

@observer1330 Год назад

“Somebody someday will understand it”.

@pareshmaniyar8273 3 года назад

My understanding: What is meditation - Meditation is to just observe choicelessly and excludes everything which commonly includes interpreting, exploring, seeking experience, having a specific goal to achieve. Why Meditate? Meditation quiets the mind as we are being completely attentive. A quiet mind sees the structure of conflicts and on complete understanding, conflict gets resolved. When there are no conflicts, there is greater intelligence. Steps to understanding deeply 1. To observe illusions, thoughts, conflicts, To understand the structure of violence and other harmful patterns, we need to see clearly 2. To see clearly, the mind must be quiet 3. Mind is quiet when it only observes choicelessly 4. Mind is quiet when free from noise - doesn't interpret, does a have a goal in mind, doesn't seek experience What meditation is not - Control/Concentration - No practise as it involves a method that has a direction, a goal Didn't get the use of meditation - Probably living to the best of the ability - In the silence of the mind, there is great understanding Please feel free to comment/correct/suggest to improve my understanding

@laganmahurat 3 года назад

Dear, your understanding is commendable, I think you have a good alertness and attentiveness while listening to jk, your understanding is completely similar to me,,,,, keep it up dear you started understanding the genius jk

@QusayAlMoaid 2 года назад

I would add from my initial understanding of this extraordinary man is: - Love is key. - True love isn't romantic love or attachment that serves only (the image of) oneself. - This necessates the abandonment of self-centred desires, which originates from the idea of independence which may be a mere symptom of the social dynamics that forces you to adapt as a child using this image of (you/I). It includes everything you think is right or wrong, okay or not okay. For me, I see that I always fall a prey of overthinking and negative feelings of being a victim when I indulge in contemplations on that basis. That is maybe the reason of instant relief acquired by helping others; it deeply and practically reinstates the actuality of oneness. In conclusion, true love is essential to spontaneously "meditate", become more aware, courageous, clear minded, compassionate, generous, and content.

@omnikhilam1341 2 года назад

Paresh you got it so well...defined very fine..Brilliant explaination..keep it up..Great job

@ritesharora6032 2 года назад

yes. K has given some meditation techniques also

@tjentalman 2 года назад

meditation doesn't exclude the aspects you point out in your definition. Exclusion is a form of control. If you are analyzing or have a goal in mind, choicelessly observe that. Watch without directing the mind. If you choose to exclude, then you are already making a mistake, in terms of choiceless awareness

@emonty62 4 года назад

K on fire!!!

@HOurWrld999 3 года назад

Aye 999 K all the way

@SohamShivoham 3 года назад

Order comes from understanding disorder. True order happens about without any effort when there is the understanding of disorder. Effort causes distortion. Trying to control creates division & conflict. Let things be. Everything is perfect the way it is.

@samarthachaitanya2500 2 года назад

Controller is controlled....Observer is observed... Disorder leads to conflict..Order is free from conflict, division and distortion. When order prevails you are in meditation without effort and practice. Undivided mind without effort and mischief of control is a meditative mind.. My God!!! Salutations.....

@rickeshpatel4025 3 года назад

I’ve experienced this, what we call meditation and mantras actually has a dulling affect on the mind after sometime and will take you out of the blissful state over time. Perhaps being in such a heightened state allowed me to see this truth as I “came down.” It becomes a routine and one becomes mechanical. People often just want to be told how to do or attain and follow another. One must find their own way and that starts with understanding oneself completely.

@johndellanos8349 3 года назад

Humanity desperately needs to listens to K.

@robduijf2752 2 года назад

Doesn't humanity desperately needs to listen to it self? So shouldn't we, representatives as we are, listen to ours selves? K. was just the postman who delivered a package. It's up to us to open the box and see what is in it.

@raomvn8365 8 месяцев назад

Be compassionate to your near. 🙏

@e.o9470 Год назад

Such a beautiful soul lived once upon a time. ❤

@tjpia1345 3 года назад

Yes sir, I'm exhausted. There is a thin line between observer and things to be observed, very very thin line and often that line disappears and I'm indulge with the observed which is restless. I understand needs serious practice every moment, not only in morning for few hours and evening for few hours. Awareness should be there all along I'm awake. Thank You, journey with you is always helpful.

@tanvis4641 2 года назад

Aww... Exhaustion is part of the process. As K said in the beginning - it's an arduous process!

@giovannaiamele8782 2 года назад

I love this teacher!

@kalpeshprabhu 2 года назад

So true, directly penetrate our heart 🌸🙏

@brankavucetic3815 3 года назад

Thank you!

@Milo_Plays_MM2 2 года назад

Thanks for life changing teaching million millions thanks

@lokeshbhat7367 3 года назад

Some scripture says Gowtham Buddha never loughed. We can directly experience this by observing J k.

@Manuel-zz1nz 3 года назад

Golden talk

@alankuntz4406 2 года назад

You can meditate for half an hour twice a day and still listening to this guy . I recommend it. 😂

@purvapatel191 3 года назад

Awesome 👌

@martinshannon7632 Год назад

Brilliant, thanks for video

@forsaken6658 6 лет назад

Treasure talks

@sivasubramaniammelbourne5632 2 года назад

Wonderful !!!!!!

@codelicious6590 10 месяцев назад

This may be one of the most powerful talks Ive seen from JK on RU-vid, the 6th conversation with Bohm in Brockwood Park is a very strong one as well. That whole series with David Bohm is really great.

@philosophy5502 2 года назад

San Diego talks are extraordinary.

@Inquiring_Together Год назад

I love when K is in a suit, it brings something out of him!

@lolo-cz3yk 2 года назад

❤️ such human exist ? Supreme power.

@TheShavarin 2 года назад

Thank you.

@storminghades6664 2 года назад

love that is not the pleasure meaning love in meditation while the mind is always silent unless thought or our body makes a movement what is meditation it is our self and we are trying to achieve ourself thanks i feel so enlightened i have given up on illusions and delusions

@suhanifree390 2 года назад

His Every word is precious

@normal1person-ns3ws Год назад

best video is Krishnamurti

@user-eq9nw7tr4x 4 месяца назад

It's free but the value of it cannot be measured❤

@siamakafiat7517 3 года назад

He Reminds me a Great Warrior with With very Sharp Sword ❤️

@jankishjoshi3383 Месяц назад

When you are aware that mind is un attentive that is also attention J you are god itself

@shivumath2557 2 года назад

Thank u

@surindersingh-uq4vl 3 года назад

See we need to understand that we are what we think ,crave, do repeatedly. So if we feed our mind with with divine thoughts, we will definitely create a divine space within us. We need to understand that we are much more than body and mind. Everything looks good in balance . If you, every time adopt sceptic attitude , you will miss the beauty of having oneness with the LIFE FORCE which is everywhere and in every one In every video, K us talking about what is wrong in religion, or man, but rarely i have seen him appreciating the Divine

@gdsomtube1 2 года назад

I think he is on purpose downplays traditional approach to divinity. I had the same view about K that he sees all the negative in life nothing positive . But if you listen other lectures he touches the truth, beauty n love thing not directly saying it as divinity but it is divinity for him but he refuses to label it. Another thing his approach is “through negation you discover positive “ rather than with pre learnt knowledge/ concept which is the traditional religious way therefore he tries to deal this subject directly which is easily relatable in life like discussing human disorder, anxiety, confusion etc etc which is more tangible than the traditional approach of religion which is positive to put it simply there is truth out there go seek it while K seems to suggests if you understand your daily life disorder etc you will arrive at the same door which religion also point 🙏🏾

@kinarasharma1506 3 года назад

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 thankyou

@omkringy 3 года назад

Order comes from understanding disorder; effort distorts; control creates division, conflict and so distortion

@eboquansah6913 2 года назад

Wow!

@ramin2v2 2 месяца назад

Wow just wow

@sinakeshmiri 11 месяцев назад

thanks

@affaisaffais2906 8 месяцев назад

❤❤❤

@tanvis4534 3 года назад

🔥🔥🔥

@siamakafiat7517 3 года назад

May all being be Happy, peaceful and liberated. Specially those people who marked Dislike 🙏

@samarthachaitanya2500 2 года назад

Each word is NECTAR, if one is serious enough and assimilates it. We are lucky to listen to this Virtuous Master( though he never claimed that he is master to any).

@easybreezy8904 2 года назад

Somebody some day will understand this..

@gentiantafa4619 3 года назад

💥

@vijayfduragannanavar6093 2 года назад

❤️

@preethikrao 2 года назад

🙏🙏🙏

@naveenravuri9932 2 года назад

Observing itself is an action (based on thought), is it possible to observe without a thought ?

@trevor4545 Год назад

You know when he chastised the guy for falling asleep I thought "there's no way that this generation could hang with this. Everyone would be playing on their phone or just walking out."

@ajaytaur 2 года назад

K... ♥️

@iamthat8165 2 года назад

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

@ramchandra710 3 года назад

Therefore order, which is virtue, comes about without any effort when there is the understanding of disorder....JK

@WickedG5150 2 года назад

He is explaining the practice of Vipassana.

@oliverkalali 3 года назад

"somebody some day will understand this"

@Enavor Год назад

Meditation is a "timeless" action. It's a state of non-duality where the intellect becomes so sensitive it realises it causes duality, like a knife which cuts a banana and the bananas parts think they're separate entities, and in that realization, is no longer discerning or discriminating creating duality. Such a state of the intellect is known as the "witness state". It observes duality, but in that observation is no longer participating - it is spectating. The mind will always create duality, it is time-bound and creates knowledge and then acts in that knowledge, it's designed that way, that's a fact, but in that realisation there is actually no time. Then it goes further. My dualistic experiences are not the same as K's, but realising the intellect causes duality, therefore creates these experiences, which creates the ego, just as K realised it means, in that state, you and he are the same... even though experience makes you think you're different. That means, if you achieve that state, K didn't die, he still observes but now through you and your experiences (which is still him). Wish I could explain it better, but the explanation is egoistic and causes me to be distinct from you. The fact is there's no distinction. It's extremely hard to intuitively get this...

@cesarcari6096 5 лет назад

25:00

@urbansadhu426 2 года назад

Emptiness has a tremendous amount of energy. But one should not waste for unwanted thoughts. Then life yeald itself.

@time_pisces Год назад

Now I'm confused how should I meditate.. Please help.. Me. Should I just sit still and let my mind wonder and I'll ignore wherever my mind wonders.. Or I should listen things like surrounding or music quitely without getting focused on other thought

@ratnveer 2 года назад

Meditation should not be self hypnosis: the most easy comfort trap is following a chant or music Or breathing suggested by monk or trainer Observe yourself without any support, with out any external system. To Understand orderness to understand disorderness. Control = suppression, rejection, division leads to conflict

@seekersfinders8801 6 месяцев назад

I don’t know why it pleases me to hear ‘somebody somewhere will understand’ Is it because I think his audience were all fools and it is only to my discerning special ears many years later on RU-vid that he directly speaks. How dangerous the self is, ever waiting to latch on and flatter itself even with the most innocuous of words of a very careful speaker.

@AjarnSpencer 2 года назад

after Jiddu renounced any organisations, how on earth can this 'official channel' and 'krishnamurti foundation' claim any copyright, on Truth, which is not to be sold or possesed or witheld.. Both have obviously misunderstood what Krishnamurti taught, to cast off al Gurus and Religions, and to not have leaders or organisations seeking awakening, as that makes it impossible, due to this behavior being based in the gredy self centered pathological thought process, lost in its own desires.