Jabra Ghneim On Hamas Leader Assassination and Ta-Nehisi Coates 

Jabra is great!

@@MrRickb75645 It was like sitting through a final exam prep where I felt like I should already know this stuff and started to panic and cram....

I disagree. His arguments are not good. He handwaives away colonization, as if that hasn't happened, doesn't address current and decades-long occupation, says that Palestinians have rejected so many peace deals in an effort to "make it right." (None of these peace deals were fair, Israeli PMs have bragged about the poison pills inside of them).

Let me play devils advocate. 1 samuel 15 3 now go and smite Amelek and utterly destroy all that they have and spare them not slay both man woman infant and suckling ox sheep chamel and ass .... Google Amelek is Esau people whom were forgiven in Ezekiel 18 20 kjv the soul that sinneth it shall die the son shall not bare the iniquity of the father neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son.... then goto 2 samuel 8 Google the names . Samuel had David attack both of Lots tribes you know the Nephew of Abraham and make slaves of them and they Attack Edom the other tribe of Esau....deuteronomy 23 7 kjv though shalt not abhor an Edomight for he is thy brother.... Israel genosided its brothers sisters and cousins so has no friends left . When Isreal was sacked even the temple Edom did not help . In fact they went to the sacked temple and they burnt it down . Samuel was a false prophet David was evil so was Solomon. Now Isreal dose have the right to defend it's self . But if I use the same logic False prophet Samuel did 300 years ago we invaded the Amalikites land and used magic to beat them but God now wants us to genocide you . Lol . How about this for logic . President Nelson gose to Arizona and in a talk says God members the mountain meadow massacre. ARIZONA goto Utah kill everyone even woman and suckling child . Then go Read the 2end article of faith and tell me samuel was a real prophet. And yes I think Isreal should fight for their land . They are just running into their own past logic

Wow is right! I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I have a Palestinian friend whose family died. All of them but one. He has lived in America over 35 years and bought his family a house near the beach in north Gaza a while back. They were told to take cover in the south, so they fled their house and died within days, as the place they were told to go, got bombed and killed them all. When he was young, just out of college, some leadership try to get him in some kind of office so he could be their puppet. He didn't want that. He left for the United States to get his doctorate degree. He has resided here ever since. He used to say I'm a Man Without a state. I want to share this with him and get his feedback. I was young during oyer acquaintance and didn't understand too much of the Middle East perplexities. He said the PLO betrayed the Palestinians, by getting them to leave their land and then they lost it.

Messy indeed. Once Israel has taken out the influence of Hamas, what fills the void? Who leads? Iran will not stop its proxy wars. It will regroup, recruit again, and fund again. There is nowhere for the Gazans to go. No one wants them. Can you imagine a world where a leader steps into Gaza, and leads, inspires, and develops their society?

@CwicShow I don't mean to sound presumptuous, but the Scriptures address how this all plays out. We are watching the closing if the final act, and we know how it ends.

​@@CwicShow Israel probably needs to stop funding Hamas if they want to take them out. 🙃

@@CwicShow The only person I could conceive of in this role is the Fatah leader Marwan Barghouti. He’s been called the Palestinian Mandela and has been imprisoned now for more than two decades for his role in the two intifadas. His time as a prisoner has given him a unique stature among Palestinians and undisputed credentials to where he could never be considered a lackey of the West or Israel. Moreover, the fact that he’s been away for so long means he can claim a kind of outsider status to the more recent developments in the region. If there was anyone that might have a plausible chance at cutting the Gordian knot that is Palestine it would be him. But, I am skeptical. The real Mandela, after all, failed to create a truly functional governmental system that could outlive his own personal charisma. The Palestinians have virtually no functioning political institutions or allies in the region that truly have their best interests at heart. I don’t blame the people over there for giving into despair and anger over what’s happening. I think the fact that they’ve been turned into a prop through which academics and activists can criticize their opponents is honestly one of the worst things that has happened to them.

Until the children are freed from the awful propaganda that surrounds them in their school lessons, bedroom artwork etc the hate will not end. If you want peace the children need to be able to play together. That's how racism ended in the south in the US.

Its utube. Happens to me all the time on many channels.