I wonder about something. Jack did not attack Hannibal at first. So I wonder why. So my theory is that at the time, they that could have been the culture in England? I would not know but just throwing that idea out there. That would explain both why Jack did not say anything about Hannibal but rather raise himself up. When Hannibal showed poor behavior in Jack's eyes he got annoyed and more aggressive. This would not really make his lines any stronger, but it would fit the pieces together well. I would say Jack's line that Hannibal is not real a massive hit tho. And while the lines in the first verse was not directly attacking, he was basically trying to play himself up as the better serial killer. Pointing it out in his 2nd verse. I never even got caught. I also wonder if it is a bit unfair to hold him not attacking Hannibal against him too much, when clearly it was done purposefully to set Jack up.
But both he and we have no idea about his personality at all, after all we never found out who it even was. D: We do not even know for sure what gender it was. I dunno. I just find that a bit off.
For those of you who didn’t understand the “Pick Ray Liotta’s brain” line...that’s a reference to Lecter literally picking pieces off of Ray Liotta’s characters brain and cooking it before eating it in the movie Hannibal.
Only Hannibal fans will truly appreciate the irony fans behind the 'theses days people are watching Dexter' line. One of the big reasons they cancelled the hit TV Show 'Dexter' in 2013 is because all the ratings were focused on the new show, 'Hannibal', which was ironically focused on the origin story of one Hannibal Lecter.
that’s what earned a chuckle from me bc hannibal outperformed dexter, so the line did not hit quite as hard. jack’s flow still carried him through the battle though
@@ZayedHeroPlays after rewatching it as a binge, i definitely agree. it felt hella boring. but back when i was waiting for it in between seasons and episodes, somehow i wasn’t as bored. idk why though
My guy, the dude playing Jake the Ripper is British rapper Dan Bull. His penmanship is some of the hottest fire I've seen. Check out his Civilization Rap and you will see this man straight play with the syllables and metaphors. Also not going to lie, it's deep as shit too. In fact, I'm gonna go play that joint real quick after I post this.
This such goddamn facts. Dannyboi got good tier rhyming and poetry skills. Lmfao I love it so much. Yall should really check out his prolific discography everyvideogame u can think of. It's a cool passion
Yeah, Hannibal got me. Man even noticed he wasn't even mentioned in the first line. You should check out Dan Bull, the person who played Jack the Ripper and Winston Churchill in the ERBs. He has songs of his own that relates to the games they're based on and they got some powerful bars.
"I'm the bon vivant of violence, a licensed psychiatrist, who dines on highest society to the sound of violins." Hannibal won it for me with that lol such a good flow
That classic megalomaniac wasn't a compliment, that was the first diss of Hannibal's verse. He's telling him that he displays all of the accepted signs of the megalomania disorder. That Jack's entire first verse was about himself, made that clear to Hannibal who is a licensed psychiatrist.
You got to quit reading those hater comments man the ones of us that come back love you s***. We're all locked in cuz of the quarantine u don't need these haters driving u crazy...
the guy who plays Jack the Ripper is Dan Bull. he also was Winston Churchill in the other ERB he did against EL as T. Roosevelt. he's fire as hell man. check em out xD
I still think the Dexter line holds. The point he is making is that serial killers like Hannibal are forgotten. Their time to shine lasts but a short time. While Jack the ripper will be remembered hundreds of years from now.
First, he said he'd pair Chianti with his liver, as in the wine paired with the meat, nothing to do with shanking his liver or w/e you were saying lol But you should check out some of more Dan Bull's stuff, the guy who did Jack the Ripper, the dude is basically a genius and his music is amazing, I think you'd really enjoy him.
in other words it's quite possible and even likely that the line was put in there intentionally with the express purpose of having it reference both of those at once like how in the Joker vs Pennywise they had pennywise say "you're a John doe in my deadlights" which has so many entendre it's not even funny, to name only a couple of them: 1. john doe is the name of Joker in the telltale series Batman game 2. it's also the name of a unidentified body or person and we don't know joker's real name so he gets called that at times
there were 3 possible jacks, 1st was shot, second disappeared into the shadows, third was arrestyed and locked up for life but none were ever proven to be the real jack hense why he never truly got caught
were any of them girls? because in every still existing photo of Jack the rippers crime scenes there's always the same woman in a black dress fleeing the scene literally Everytime the same woman and the same dress fleeing from where the body is every single time which has led to the theory that Jack the ripper was actually a girl, but not just any girl that exact woman the one in the black dress because it's the only logical reason that she would be in every photo in the same dress fleeing the scene no matter where in England it was it just doesn't add up otherwise
Small details I noticed and I liked was, on Jack's lines when he says horrorcore you can hear a whisper horror core, and on lecter's line you can hear him stutter like when he says but thought he goes tho tho thou
Personally, I don't see why so many think Hannibal won. Jack was tearing him apart without even speaking hannibal's name, talking how his crimes were taking place in a much tougher time period. Talking how gruesome and real his crimes were compared to Hannibal. When you really dissect hannibal's verses, it really comes down to calling out Jack craving attention. Jack was hitting harder to me, targeting how real he was and that he never got caught.
This reaction was probably the best one ive seen of yours. No ones grilling you for missing reference thats cool its just pretending if u got it be like this stay humble no one knows everything but this was a lit reaction do you have any fandoms?
Omg. People need to stop tripping. How many videos does he have to tell you to calm down in. This is Munfu!! WE HERE FOR THE BARS!! FACTS! Keep the hate comments out.
Jack the Ripper IS a classic case of a Megalomaniac. Obsessed by his own power with delusions of grandeur. (Edit:) I honestly memorized the whole rap battle by the 3rd time I saw it... I love horror so naturally I loved this. Dr. Hannibal Lecter is the clear winner.
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Jack's opening verse may be my favourite in ERB purely because it's so in character. Jack was a total egotistical villain why should he was his breath talking about a fictional creature THAT WAS CAUGHT when he can talk the listener into fearing his actions through his own words.
But do we know? I have heard that he probably was not from England and went back home. I have also seen someone question if it was a man at all, perhaps it was a female?
@@AliceRoche-ii2ke it makes sense for more reasons than you think because in every still existing photo of Jack the rippers crime scenes there's always the same woman in a black dress fleeing the scene literally Everytime the same woman and the same dress fleeing from where the body is every single time which has led to the theory that Jack the ripper was actually a girl, but not just any girl that exact woman the one in the black dress because it's the only logical reason that she would be in every photo in the same dress fleeing the scene no matter where in England it was it just doesn't add up otherwise
They never could say yes 100% it was him.. but there was a detective(in like 09 maybe 2010 or 2011) he investigated England and came to the conclusion that maybe Jack never got caught because... he wasnt in England anymore maybe ye left. He found out that back them boats and stuff were going from England to NY. So he went to NY and ended up searching and found 3 or 4 more cases of Ripper style killings and they actually ended up catching him in NY. The guy got caught with a knife that matched at least 3 of the murder weapons in England, and after he was caught there were never any other Ripper style killings.
its true that jack the ripper was never caught. how ever it was a theory whether or if jack was a man or woman. but speculations suggested that. jack was sexual abused by his/her mother an thats why he/she targeted prostitutes. to this day im pretty sure they still haven't solved it. An for Hannibal lecter. yes hes not technically a real person. but hes based on a real person who was locked away for eating people. he just happen to get the nickname. at one point they didnt know how bad he was. an they put him in a regular cell. an one of the guards went a gave him his meal tray. he bent the guards arm around the cell door an started to chew his fingers off. apparently he did this to several nurses too. eventually he would get the nickname Hannibal lecter
theirs a story about jack the ripper that he died in a mental hospital about 10 to 15 years after his rampage as the ripper. cant remember what he was in for.
I feel like Jack the ripper won just with the fact that he's real. He was a REAL serial killer who NEVER got caught and is still wanted to this day. While Hannibal is practically like many serial killer tropes like Dexter who have been or will be replaced and forgotten.
I don't know....Jack the Ripper's crimes makes OJ Simpson's crime look like a Penny Dreadful episode if we're being real. Nice bar, but Jack is on another level when it comes to crime sprees compared to OJ....AND he never got caught. So, hard one to judge....both had bars and Jack's second verse was hard and crushed Lecter's existence. He won that with "I'M REAL; You'll find me making vacancies in brothels, while you only exist inside the pages of a novel; You were locked for ages in a hovel". His first was hard too except he should have attacked Lecter more. It was close, but with closer examination, Jack had the harder hits IMO. Lecter had more wordplay but talking about Ray Liotta and eating his brains is not really a diss since Jack didn't CHASE headlines, he MADE headlines with his crimes. Roasting balls on a hibachi, talking about Jack smelling like piss and being like tasteless Kashi, dining on people while listening to violins.....I dunno...nice rhymes but they are not haymakers to me.
Jack is the clear winner for me. Better flow, I liked how his first verse was basically "I cant even bother with you" to Hannibal and he killed him in the 2nd verse. Also Hannibal loses points for mixing up himself and Buffalo Bill.
Do what you do, Munfu, stay authentic! In fact, next time you have to use your opening monologue to address haters, say that much! "I'm being _authentic,_ nobody ever catches everything on the first time watching!" Because if you watch something privately first, or watch other reactions before filming your own, the haters will turn around and say you're fake. You can't win with them, don't play their game. Life's too short to waste time on them.
Just incase you didnt know Hannibal is actually based off of a real serial killer that ate his victims. So technically in a way Hannibal was real just, Hannibal wasnt his name lol
First sorry bro We are nerds, and we take stuff like this because it’s historically bases too seriously. Just how it is. Now some of my fellow nerds and geeks need to drop the whole teacher’s pet and bully nerd attitudes tone sure. Some of us just see a chance to nerd out
Hey, just my 2 cents on this battle. 1) I don't consider Hannibal's comment of "You didn't mention me once in your entire battle rap" as any kind of fire line. Jack the Ripper's first round was basically laying out his resume to someone that doesn't actually exist, and not worthy of mention. 2) Hannibal's comment on Jack's nickname not something he created for himself is also a non-issue. When those that you terrorize and traumatize give you a name, the effect punches harder and causes more fear, in my opinion. 3) Lastly, just to keep it relatively brief, Jack's line of "I'm Real; you exist in a book" ended it. Jack's like i did this shit for real, your ass is made up.
1. It's a "battle rap". That's literally the purpose of one. Smack talk your opponent. 2. "Hannibal" is equally a nickname. 3a. Calling someone "fake" is equivalent to calling another rapper "old". 3b. Hannibal is made up, but he is based on a *real* person.
Sure, Lecter may be based on a real person but Jack’s crimes have been discussed and dissected since 1888. When the 25th anniversary edition of The Silence of the Lambs was released, Harris updated the introduction to the book, finally revealing that Hannibal Lecter was based on an actual doctor in Mexico, a surgeon by the name of Alfredo Ballí Treviño, who was convicted of murdering then chopping up his gay lover in 1959. (He was inspired by other RL serial killers as well, Ed Gein and Albert Fish come to mind.) The JtR nickname line, no big deal as media has done that for decades. The Zodiac killer, BTK, Son of Sam, the Night Stalker, and the Boston Strangler to name a few. Hannibal *wasn’t* a nickname. Hannibal Lecter VIII (born January 20, 1933) is a Lithuanian-American serial killer, notorious for consuming his victims, earning him the nickname "Hannibal the Cannibal” according to the fandom wiki entry.
@@AC-gb7do "The Chesapeake Ripper" is who Graham was investigating for a string of murders. Once he started piecing together Lecter was the killer he almost died and went into retirement. With the public now knowing who this Ripper was, he became Hannibal the Cannibal. Both are nicknames not of his own.
let me guess...you're a product of the american education system? you don't read books and you barely watch tv...right? this is getting downright worrying, man...