You skipped over the part of his life where his parents took him back to China to be raised in the Chinese Opera Academy. He grew up under some of the most harshly disciplined Chinese rule. He did not have the freedoms of most raised in Hong Kong, so it makes sense he doesn't sympathize as much as people would expect.
When Jackie Chan was growing up in China Hong Kong was under British colonial rule and the people were heavily repressed. There were no freedoms for people growing up in Hong Kong in those days. The protesters don't know how much better they have it now that Hong Kong is reunified because they're all under thirty and didn't live through that era.
@@foxtrotalphaone someone actually had research reasons why he’s personally like this besides the extramarital affairs, the Panama papers, and illegitimate children.
@@sko1beer that happens in 'Fists of Fury' which is based in Shanghai. There have never been signs in Hong Kong saying 'no dogs, no Chinese', not even in fiction.
Fun Fact: Jackie has made more money as a music recording artist than a movie star. Easy to wrap your head around when you realize that a musician that is popular in China compared to the USA can easily become a billionaire if only 1% of the population buys their music because there are so many people.
Another fun fact: The more powerful and rich you are in China, the harder you will fall if you speak out against the CCP regime. Case in point: Jack Ma, the former richest man in China.
People seem to forget about one VERY important fact: Jackie Chan is the last person on earth you should ask about political agendas! Remember, he spend his entire childhood in the Peking Opera where he was trained in Martial Arts. There has no education provided to him, he couldn't even read after leaving the school. In his biography he even says that to this day he is struggling with writing autographs for fans. Everything he learned in live came from the film industry, he was never taught on any political subject. So when mainland China opened his hands and welcomed him after 1998 to support his movie making, it seems natural to me that he is not interested in Communism or Democracy, as long as he can continue to do what he does best. He is no traitor to anyone, he is just saying stuff that from his point of view isn't even a political statement - he's just never grown up to be able to give political statements.
Lmao wts logic? Not knowing how to read n write doesn't mean one is ignorant. Also, HK&Taiwan made him famous . It was the HK/TW industry that groom these stars in the 80s,90s. China worked for them then,not the other way round. Now that China have gain economic power,they are even more tyrannic. Literally cancel anyone or company that isn't pro communism/oneChina.
Amongst the big HK stars who didn't finish high school or go to college, Bruce Lee, Chow Yun Fat, Stephen Chow, and Tony Leung, Jet Li(mainland), and Donnie Yen, only Jackie Chan is dumb enough to opine on politics the way he does. Every time he speaks on politics, the dumber he looks and the more he exposes himself. One one-side vague statement after another without ever substantiating or elaborating on the points he tries to make. What's wrong with it if you ask? If it weren't for HK he wouldn't have become an international superstar, not in the US in the 70s, 80's or 90s as an Asian or Asian American, yet as soon as the CCP comes calling he turns around and bites the hands that fed him. He can be pro-CCP for all I care but he lacks the awareness to remain silent on these issues. That's in addition to him being a serial womanizer for decades and one who even admitted to driving drunk multiple times from partying. The hypocrisy of his decision to cut his son off of his wealth is a testament to Jackie Chan's low IQ.
3 days ago, Hong Kong actor comedian Richard Ng Man-tat (Wu Mengda) succumbed to liver cancer and passed away. This is sad. The last blog he posted on Weibo is saying that "I am a Chinese" together with a picture of China's national flag. This drew him a lot of hate remarks from anti-China haters, scorning him even in his death. Ng man-tat's patriotic stance shows that not only Jackie Chan identifies as Chinese, loves his country and is proud of China. Others like Donnie Yen, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow and Louis Koo are all patriotic Hong Kong actors/directors. Rest in peace Uncle Tat. May you be heaven where the scorns and hates of those anti-China haters never reach you. You will be remembered and loved.
@@新思维新思考新境界 spamming is a sign of desperation. Jackie Chan is a great entertainer and a patriot but a shit human being. At the least, he was a horrible husband and father for decades and yiur continuing to cover that up with his patriotism is willful ignorance.
@Jaison Manson So out of fear for capitalism China is violently cracking down on Hong Kong? How is that any different from what America has done to countries in South America over fear of communism? If China is so sure of themselves then they should have nothing to fear. Hong Kong could easily exist on its own the same way the country of Taiwan has. Seems to me that the CCP has quite the fragile ego.
I remember when Jackie Chan was on Late Night With David Letterman. He talked about when Hong Kong was transferred from the UK to China meeting the Queen of England. He said that Taiwan is next. I wish it was on RU-vid. But it was aired in 1997. So he’s been devoted to China for a long time.
I feel like Jackie will always make the decision that benefits him the most professionally. If going against mainland China will hurt him professionally, he won't do that.
That makes no sense. At this late stage in his career, hes already made his wealth and fame. So what if China boycotts him, when was the last time you saw a new Jackie Chan movie. It's one thing to be politically apathetic to preserve your career, it's another to be vocally active in support of a political organization. He's flipped flopped on the issue but if all he wants to do is be prosperous he just needs to move somewhere else and live out his days putting his wealth to use without fear of persecution or chastising from either side, but that's not what he wants at the moment.
@@fergar0206 cuz his son is done in China due to the drug issue. Jackie needs to get as much as money he can in order to gurantee his son and possible future grand child or even grand grand child a luxury life. Apart from that, when you got certain amount of money, you might start thinking something bigger. Like social status or other shit because in the chinese tridational thinking, actor or actress is a very low class job no matter how much fame they've owned. People called actor/actress "xizi" which is a disriminal word to all kinds of entertainers.
The west made Jackie Chan. Made him king after Lee was removed. And when the west is fighting China to survival he not only betrayed his masters, he is snitching to China. He will be disgraced but w3 can't take all his money since he has some in China.
@Joshua Carrillo tell that to Hong Kongers, I think you'll find a lot of them feel a little different on that issue. Even if they identify as Chinese that doesn't mean they want to be under Chinese government rule. ideally they would have a say in what happens to them, but obviously the Chinese government doesn't feel the same.
Hong Kongers disliked Jackie Chan long before he expressed his political beliefs. His reputation died after his extramarital affairs and ill treatment of his illegitimate daughter.
So? Extramarital affairs are bad but not for outsiders to meddle in. Jackie Chan is entertainer, & a very good one. His personal life is his own. Edit : His political views are also his own. (Not everybody needs to agree on everything. That's free will.)
Thant Zwe Aung completely agree. My point was - this video is wrong because Jackie Chan’s popularity in HK didn’t dissolve because his political opinions.
HK buried his scandals, no matter what Jackie did he will never be cancelled. He exploited his nanny, his connections with the underworld, illegitimate child, all his scandals are all buried. HK people dislike him but he wines and dines with HK police chiefs and government officials. He’s untouchable.
Jackie's movies get less popular among the HK audience when he passed his prime in stunt act. Jackie did not change his movie style, every subsequent movie features a similar storyline but lighter stunt acts, I think that's why he went to Hollywood because his stunt act is still unique over there at the time. His private life sinks his image in HK, nowadays people around his generation remember him for his marital affair.
i will always love jackie chan's movies and the characters he plays in his movies. That does not mean I have to love his personal life or support his opinions and ideologies.
Man I remember when son got busted for weed and had to go to jail. Initially I was disappointed that Jackie let his didn’t help his son, then realized that unlike other spoiled kids he let his son face the consequences like an adult big ups to Jackie for that.
@@Rctdcttecededtef Jaycee only did 6 months back in ‘15. The only reason people are getting death sentences is due to retaliation for the arrest of an executive of Huawei.
Just like how Americans hang their flag wherever they can and pledge allegiance to it. Just like how the British Live their flag when it stands for atrocities.
Well u can't blame Jackie I feel like he has something that the people in China forced him to do this. Not only him even american celebrities like john cena had did the same thing
@@jamesjustin2201, that saying isn't really that stupid. It all depends on the majority's opinions. For example, even if you've done good deeds all your life, but you did one small mistake and some people in power chose to capitalize on that flaw to make you look bad.... You'll be treated as a villain too. Our society is so corrupt that even villains can become heroes and vice versa. There's a saying that History is written by those who won... Making lies become common knowledge to spread prejudice.
Look at those lazy rioter they're totally undeveloped in any aspect of their life so much so that they hate to see successful person or happy person. See his beard is very unhygienic that it looks like some old corn chips is still there. Care to know who these rioters represent.. Do they have goal to have familes of their own. these rioter never care if they burn old folks alive in the street what more if they triumph in overthrowing the government. All they care to do is having free stuff and then live in their parents house because nobody wants to hire them with their lazy attitude and crass behaviour.
Most people in Hong Kong who are a bit older, with stable jobs and families to take care of are against the protests. Jackie falls squarely in that demographic. So it's to be expected that he would be against it too.
These rioters are not peaceful by any means. Truth be told that these rioters are just lazy bastards of hongkong HONGKONG RIOTERS burn people alive! HONGKONG RIOTERS destroy hard earning business. HONGKONG RIOTERS destroy train stations. HONGKONG RIOTERS want a neo-communist-fascist regime where these lazy bastards get all FREE services until nobody want to give them because nobody wants to be with their lazy lifestyle these rioter are ANTI-successful person ANTI-Business.
@@bimboyaquino7091 or maybe they don’t want a authoritarian Communist regime that brainwashes its people and removes all their freedoms to be introduced into their country...
@Modi Superpooper 2020 its not necessarily that they are missing freedoms now, but it is starting to happen, with Hong Kong’s police force basically working for the Chinese government. Also Donald Trump was in full support of the protesters in Hong Kong because he is well aware of the effects of communist regimes and their control of people’s religion, finance and identity. And some people basically want this type of rule in the west! Help us God.
@@jamiebeattie8852 I agree with Modi Superpooper 2020, in a democracy you should respect opinion different from your own. Not kill, burn or smear everyone who disagrees with you. I live in a democratic country but I think the “democratic” movement in Hongkong has really gone out of control just because it has been sponsored by CIA operatives. And Vice does not want to present or interview those who disagree with the democratic movement just because it has its own agenda.
@@jamiebeattie8852 The reality is that they are more upset with Hong Kong's economy and status as a financial hub. The main reason for Hong Kong's success was not democracy, (they never had real democracy under the British) but because China was incredibly poor and Hong Kong was the world's access portal to China. Now Shenzhen, Shanghai and other big Chinese cities have risen in prominence and superseded Hong Kong's role as the financial center of Asia. That was inevitable, theres only so much wealth in the world and now its more evenly distributed across China and Asia in general which means Hong Kong took the biggest hit since they had the most to lose. Hong Kong's financial woes and job market are being blamed on China by the Hong Kong youth but it was destined to happen as soon as China opened up its economy to the world even if Hong Kong remained in British hands. Yes, Hong Kongers are wary of communism and the CCP's tight grip on its citizens but look at Macau. Their economy is fine and you don't hear a peep from them, theres no doubt in my mind that Hong Kong's economy is the main driving force behind this youth revolution. Its unfortunate how things turned out but I think that the youth of Hong Kong would have been better off trying to join the Mainland job market and even considering moving to China in search of better opportunities rather than restricting themselves by choice to only working and living in Hong Kong. Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing are all world class cities that are on par with Hong Kong, Tokyo, Singapore and Seoul. But I get it, Chinese Mainlanders can be some real assholes and come off as obtuse and crude. Theres no easy solution and its truly regretful how Hong Kong's younger generation has to come to terms with what is essentially an unwinnable battle.
It's funny af I saw many ppl in west saying that he's the only celebrity with zero hate from ppl, everyone loves him, even apart from politics he was criticized a lot because of his sex scandals, illegitimate daughter, his attitude on cheating on wife, his spoiled son got caught in beijing relating to drugs, what a mess.
JACKIE CHAN IS FORCED TO DO SO... THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WOULD ARREST HIM JAIL HIM AND TORTURE HIM THEN TAKE ALL HIS MONEY AND STOP HIM FROM MAKING MOVIES. UNLIKE THE CELEBRITIES HERE WHO HAVE THE FUCKING FREEDOM TO SPEAK OUT YET THEY JOIN THE DEMOCRATS AND SUPPORT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. FUCK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO DUMB AND BLIND. OPEN YOUR EYES
there is a darker side to his pro china support. Jackie Chans house in Beijing was seized, and stolen by the Chinese Government. The house where his daughter grew up, and family lives. If Jackie Chan goes against the CCP, he will likely lose all his family and belongings in China (even worse than a stolen home)
If Jackie Chan is anything, he is first and foremost, a patriot who loves his nation. If he genuinely believes that the CPC is a positive force for good in China, then he is right to believe so, for the CPC is indeed a boon for China, proven by the fact that under its leadership, more than 800 million Chinese have been lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years, and as of last year, poverty has been eradicated in the country. That is on top of the fact that the CPC industrialized the most populous country in the world, a backwards nation when it assumed leadership in 1949, turning China into a modern prosperous superpower that can rival the USA technologically. Who in the 1950s to 80s would dare imagined that China would one day achieve a level of technological advancement such as 5G as to make the USA declare a state of emergency over it? Or that China could compete with the USA in space exploration with the first soft landing on the far side of the moon, the first unmanned collection and retrieval of lunar soil, or the first Martial rover with lander mission?
@@g.r.e.4867 Some are baseless propaganda the likes of Falun Gong Cult media (NTD and Epoch Times) BS. Others are unavoidable cost and sacrifices that has to be made as a backwards nation modernizes. Some are social problems that are a result of poverty and feudalistic traditions that are much worse in "democratic" countries the likes of India, Mexico, the Philippines and even South Korea whose society views women lesser than men. Others are political oppression which are justifiable under the principles of Machiavelli since a good man with good morals cannot be a good leader. As the great political philosopher himself put it, in order to be a good and effective political leader, one needs to learn how not to be good(against dissenters who desires to take power away from the leader and keep it for themselves). You can make a list of negative stuffs about a regime, just as others like me can make a similar list with positive stuffs. For much of the Chinese population living today, they are more affected by the positive stuffs than the negative, which explains the higher approval ratings of the Chinese government in polls conducted not just by Chinese institutions, but neutral foreign ones as well. And when compared with other countries, China is doing better, which explains why hundreds of millions of tourists travel to foreign countries every year and more than 99.9% of them return to China. If China is really as horrible as you want me to believe she is, why would they choose to return? And wouldn't they not be permit to travel abroad or lack the financial means to do so in the first place? China is better than other countries is also evident by the fact that the younger generation of Chinese under 30 years of age becomes more patriotic and more confident of their country whenever they travel abroad as they can compare for themselves having personally been in both places. Not all instances are like that but mostly like that in general.
The statement that Jackie Chan was raised in China was wrong. The China Opera Academy, despite it’s name, was located in Kowloon, Hong Kong, not mainland China.
The guy talking about Jackie doesn't know what he's talking about. Jackie was always pro-China, even before 89. He considered living under British rule as being second rate citizen. Given the era he was born in he's also very conservative. There's no flip flop, he truly believes in strong rule by the CCP.
@David Lee thats just Stockholm Syndrome. There was no democracy in HK under the British. Nothing has changed. Those that would love to continue licking white boots can move to the UK and some of them are finding out it just means a different set of problems.
Loving your country doesn't mean loving your government. All us HKers know he was a vocal participant during the '89 demonstrations in HK in REACTION to Tianamen. And that student demonstration in Tianamen was directed at reforming the Chinese political system to achieve democracy. What indication is there that he was pro-China prior to '89? Just because he is anti-colonial like the rest of us? True, imperialism is a terrible thing, but China is also guilty of promulgating it today with its soft power influence via the Belt and Road initiative and threats of invading Taiwan.
In the 70's, 80's & 90's Hong Kong movies were the greatest they ruled, the action scenes & creativity were incredible, it was a true golden era. Jackie's films now are terrible & his politics don't help. Hong Kong made him into the star he is today, but, he's jumped sides & being well well paid. However, to the original fans in that era we celebrated many other great Hong Kong stars other than just Jackie Chan. Like, Joey Wong, Brigitte Lin, Anita "RIP" Mui, Sam Hui, Ricky "RIP" Hui, Lam Ching "RIP" Ying, Samo Hung, Yuen Biao, Chingmy Yau, Cherie Chung, Leung Kar Yan, Lee Choi Fung & many many more.
@ScarfaceRampage To me, that's kind of worse. In recent years, the biggest movies in the action genre were mostly Marvel or Star Wars with very little in variety. Granted, every decade had their stagnant phase but at least there were at least a few standouts.
why do you think HK protestors represent HK? The movie industry actors has ALWAYS supported the CPC, Donnie Yen, Jet Li, you name it, all of them are supporters of China. It's rather simple, they are Chinese.
He was hated way before his fealty to China. He had numerous adulterous affairs, in one of which he had a daughter whom he publicly disowned while humiliating the mother of the child.
@@toukendanshiwarrior2846 What's to prove? He admitted to that in a press conference and said he made the same mistakes that "many men" make, just like any coward that got caught.
Take it from somebody who’s been doing business in HK for over 15 years now. Jackie Chan has a lot of haters in HK but is still beloved by a lot of people here in HK.
Right!? I mean just because some people shout their opinion out loud, doesnt make it majority opinion. We now tend to pretend that noise in media reflect what people really think.
some people can hate someone just because they have different political view. People hate Communist and its supporter as if Democratic ideology is already perfect
JC is already rich, money's not the problem for him. JC is old enough to experience British rule over HK. Contrary to what people say, HK never had any democracy during British rule as well. I suggest you read history or ask old people of HK about it. So JC is just proud to be a Chinese and believes that HK is part of China too.
alain sutanto Nah JC also supported that Hoàng Sa and Trường Sa belongs to China and let me tell you. Sike my ngga try us Vietnamese. Touch them fucking islands we’ll fuck you up like before in history :). Was a big fan of JC till I heard about the news.
Would it not be better to interview people living in HongKong? Also, from this, it seems he is trying to be understanding to all sides, which is honourable.
This is refreshing. I don’t know why people are seeking an ally or a hero, this man is an actor. So he is free to ‘work for the communists’ or ‘work for pro- Democratic Party’. Mind you I’m not condoning nor condemning his actions. I just think people shouldn’t misplace their focus. Malcolm X spoke about how the black community in America looked for hero’s in entertainers and how misplaced it is. I just don’t like the trend I’m seeing in the world where we place over-importance on the beliefs of entertainers.
he is not an ordinary guy with no weight on public. He entitles whatever lunatic ideas he believes. If he keeps all the nonsense himself that would be perfectly fine. But he is actively helping CCP to hurt hongkonger and Chinese people. that’s the point
I am Chinese, I like Jackie Chan, Jackie Chan is our Chinese "big brother". In fact, there are many people who support Jackie Chan in Hong Kong. Some people who oppose him are young people of the new generation in Hong Kong. They usually have no income or jobs, so they hate society and the Communist Party. Jackie Chan's original intention was only to want peace in Hong Kong. The video should also show the Chinese and Hong Kong people who support Jackie Chan.
@@jasony486 yes, that's what I think. He was a pretty cool guy when he was living in Australia, (his parents had a restaurant not far from where I live) but after he moved back to China he didn't have a choice because "CCP is arsehole".
True Jackie Chan has a history of being kidnapped when he was starting his career. I am pretty sure this was the doing of the CCP. It's not just about the money, I would think if he do not support the CCP, something bad will happen not just to him, but to his family as well. People should know this. This is the tactic of the CCP. I think Jackie is against the CCP but there is nothing he can do. And it's not worth risking his life and his family's. All we(free people) can do is not support the CCP.
@Black Bullet you insight is amazing and informative. I'm surprised you even knew how to spell "2". (your bad grammar indicates that you might be CCP arsehole)
On an individual level that's true but on a social level, once you CHOOSE to be a public figure, you have to act on behalf of the community, there's no way around it. I don't know about the West, but in Asian culture, holding a social position like Jackie Chan has heavy responsibilities, you are the Voice of the People , and you have to Act the part of that Voice. For him to turn his back on the Hong Kong movement like that, that is Treason to the Hong Kong populace.
you guys are brainwashed to hate China more than Muslims. Don't find it weird that your emotion tells you that a preemptive strike against china is necessary?
@@ashleyyu4418 yea... just like on the HK topic, the yellow side have their very good reasons to call the vandalism + arson = peaceful protests. Simply because the CCP is so evil, so the action of the yellow group in HK is justified.
@@ashleyyu4418 and then, the yellow vest in France got punished by law, we don't see any sanction against France. Pro-China stuffs like this i say on youtube, people will actually call me a wumao. This is the world we are living in, and the majority thinks it is normal.
3 days ago, Hong Kong actor comedian Richard Ng Man-tat (Wu Mengda) succumbed to liver cancer and passed away. This is sad. The last blog he posted on Weibo is saying that "I am a Chinese" together with a picture of China's national flag. This drew him a lot of hate remarks from anti-China haters, scorning him even in his death. Ng man-tat's patriotic stance shows that not only Jackie Chan identifies as Chinese, loves his country and is proud of China. Others like Donnie Yen, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow and Louis Koo are all patriotic Hong Kong actors/directors. Rest in peace Uncle Tat. May you be heaven where the scorns and hates of those anti-China haters never reach you. You will be remembered and loved.
Whatever Jackie's political standpoint, he left a true legacy for Hong Kong and Chinese people in general. One should respect that. In western countries everybody knows Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee.
These lazy agenda driven Rioters are against any successful person or business and they will burn any old folks. Lazy rioter like that fat unhygienic bearded weird only care with free stuff and they stay living with their parents because they don't want to have real jobs.
If Jackie Chan is anything, he is first and foremost, a patriot who loves his nation. If he genuinely believes that the CPC is a positive force for good in China, then he is right to believe so, for the CPC is indeed a boon for China, proven by the fact that under its leadership, more than 800 million Chinese have been lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years, and as of last year, poverty has been eradicated in the country. That is on top of the fact that the CPC industrialized the most populous country in the world, a backwards nation when it assumed leadership in 1949, turning China into a modern prosperous superpower that can rival the USA technologically. Who in the 1950s to 80s would dare imagined that China would one day achieve a level of technological advancement such as 5G as to make the USA declare a state of emergency over it? Or that China could compete with the USA in space exploration with the first soft landing on the far side of the moon, the first unmanned collection and retrieval of lunar soil, or the first Martial rover with lander mission?
3 days ago, Hong Kong actor comedian Richard Ng Man-tat (Wu Mengda) succumbed to liver cancer and passed away. This is sad. The last blog he posted on Weibo is saying that "I am a Chinese" together with a picture of China's national flag. This drew him a lot of hate remarks from anti-China haters, scorning him even in his death. Ng man-tat's patriotic stance shows that not only Jackie Chan identifies as Chinese, loves his country and is proud of China. Others like Donnie Yen, Andy Lau, Stephen Chow and Louis Koo are all patriotic Hong Kong actors/directors. Rest in peace Uncle Tat. May you be heaven where the scorns and hates of those anti-China haters never reach you. You will be remembered and loved.
Jackie probably changed his views about Honk Kong when he left it and saw the world and all that it has to offer. His life of fame, recognition and success is something that he may not be willing to sacrifice for a place to which maybe he is not so attached anymore. As an actor he may compare the pros and cons of being pro China against being por Hong Kong, and in economic and freedom terms, the choice is obvious. Unfortunately for Hong Kong, he is not the 'hero' that they expected. That's only in the movies. Real life is a different thing.
@@thatone8085 oh boy you're so wrong. Anyone who know the history of China and people of honk kong understand the reallity. They were the only area of china who wasn't starving. The people in Honk kong enjoy more freedom and development than the rest of the country for a lot and thanks to them and massive pacific rebellion in the small towns the communist party did big changes giving space to open markets and private enterprise.
The fact that the CCP that he apparently "loves " so much were going to take his property/properties etc makes me believe his pro CCP stance is more to appease the CCP and not lose his wealth.
@@denrimi I mean he could have moved to a safe Western country or Taiwan. He chooses the CCP. He is a horrible sell out. If good people don't stand up the CCP wins. He is not a good person.
@@naguoning I think you guys are painting him wrong. He’s a China man. He doesn’t want to live anywhere else. And he doesn’t want the CCP to rob him either. Im greek. If the greek government threatened to rob me, id say whatever as well. Jackie Chan is a movie star not political figure.
Yes Hollywood and Chinese mainland politics become terrible and disaster for Jackie Chan.... You make film in Hollywood its mean money and forget the art of film.... If you make film in Chinese mainland its mean politics pro communism....
That would be because of directors not being exactly good at what they're doing. Also because they are pressured to make a bigger return in less time, a good movie while cutting down on shooting time bc shooting is expensive. The movies are good, not great. And this is the crux of most hollywood movies. This video : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Z1PCtIaM_GQ.html&ab_channel=EveryFrameaPainting shows how Jackie Chan was able to do really good action scenes while also making it memorable and exciting, keeping the audience entertained bc you don't know what's going to happen next in a fight. Another video : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ybYsElQD2o4.html&ab_channel=TheCloserLook The 2nd video and the 1st video hammer in a point, keep the fights engaging but most importantly, organic. You can tell a person he kept shooting bad guys in x scene but what Chan was able to do, bc he was given the time & budget, was to make the fights feel organic. An example is: during the fight, x was pushed into some construction equipment, where x picked up a shovel and used it like ... If you make the fight organic, the scene will be more engaging because not only was we becoming more and more impatient, and more wondering. If a fight scene doesn't engage us for long, our eyes & mind will wander elsewhere. In hollywood movies there is kind of a paradox, you will pay attention to a dialogue scene bc it might be important to the plot, giving important information about the current situation and how the protagonist is going to deal with it. Writers spend countless hours pouring over a script, making sure it entertaining and engaging BUT not enough attention (imo) is given to the action sequences in a film. Because if the actor is just punching someone, in the script, we will just see it as a punch from x to y, but if there good acting on the actors part, it will result in a better scene! Take for instance: as x punched y, y doubled over and started puking out his breakfast, as opposed to as x punched y, y slightly doubled over as he winced in pain. They both covey a punch to the gut but 1 is more engaging & impactful, while the other just coveys it. A video on the Making Of Full Metal Jacket (here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XRkyKYz5SYM.html) conveys it splendidly, at 15:40 basically encompasses everything im trying to say. TL DR: Hollywood editors and directors are shit in creating an engaging organic fight scene. They make unnecessary cuts in a scene while not understanding what makes a good fight scene good. A fight scene can be cut and still look ok but it will be great if we can see everything because we will see the hit, the process of the hit landing and the end result. Not about to hit, cut, action of hit. Ps: look at ANY fight video thats on the internet! If you dont see the hit landing followed by their immediate reaction, would it feel the same? I also know that I'm conveying my point somewhat poorly so take my words with a grain of salt
how dare you say jackie chan is a proud communist but did you ever forget japan invaded china when the marco polo invent happen. he is reflecting back to where he was
In México we have a similar situation. The actor is called "Eugenio Derbez". Used to be loved by millions, now is hated by majority for helping the corrupt system that used to be held in Mexico for more than 70 years. He still appears in USA movies because they try to use his fame to attract latin audiences but he is so fucking evil. Which is ironic because he is mainly a comedy actor.
@ASAP.69 Jackie Chan is a partiot, he lived under biritsh colonialism. you are really brainwashed if you think he supports the gov only because he is paid or threatened, not because the genuine loves his country
personally, i believe the man doesn’t have any choice but to comply, it’s China after all and it’s not like America where you can talk shit about the president.
[Note: I am not here to take a stance on which side I am on. Just providing a viewpoint that people can not easily choose a side without risks or repercussions. Hong Kong's reality is different from your reality in your country] Honestly, that's how I think when I see even Chinese celebrities saying they support China and the police. Hong Kong might be expecting too much from celebrities (from either Hong Kong or China) as the celebrities are really in a predicament. If a celebrity supports Hong Kong, okay. If the celebrity does not, move on to someone else who does. Some people have the strength to protest. Some people don't. That's all there is. That's the issue: you can't just always forcefully get everyone by your side. Some people just can't do it. Anyway, be safe everyone; 2020 is a crazy year.
Having an underdeveloped opinion often does. Generally speaking, just having an opinion doesn't mean it is one which actually contributes to the discourse.
Jackie Chan has admitted to being a 'total jerk' in his personal life by treating women badly and letting his rage get so out of hand he threw his baby across the room. The martial arts superstar said that he used to strut around in a gold chain, sleep with prostitutes and drive drunk all the time - crashing a Porsche one morning and a Mercedes Benz later that night.
The story is actually much more complicated and longer, he was already disliked by many at the turn of the century for many reasons: He's open practice of polygamy He's long suspected having links with organized crime groups He makes a lot of stupid statements But worst of all, he represents a generation of baby boomers that had been able to achieve wealth back in a much more fairer society then turns against to the current younger generation who found the fair competition that's not there anymore and try to fight for their rights and liberties.
Whatever argument you make right here - just remember, people will be studying the thoughts and contemplations of Bruce Lee for years to come and nobody ever cared what Jackie Chan actually thought about anything, and Bruce was treated like a heretic by traditionalists but has done more to spread actual works of persistent enlightenment concepts and methods to achieve such goals in modern times than any other actor I can think of, at any time. Bruce was privileged and maybe even gifted in some senses, but he also worked tirelessly and continually looked outward to understand the inward and integrate what is working, using that to move himself forward as opposed to the many other ways one could but in doing so adding nothing or actually removing value from the world. If you are not focused solely on what you are doing, then you are already a follower and not a leader. The example is that Jackie gave people what they wanted and Bruce gave people what they need. One of those things will always persist as valued knowledge by future generations and honestly nobody cares what Jackie Chan already thinks - and you find out when the pressures come just who and who is not really on the side of humanity, instead choosing whatever the fuck they thought was better than humanity.
@Ben R. Show me a contribution to the personal strength and growth of humanity...but sure, we'll love JC just like Police Academy and I actually watch stuntman channels now - people were always doing what he was doing, most still can't get through the wall of government. In the US it's easy to forget that not everyone can just do whatever they want or broadcast whatever they want even if they do have access to high speed internet. In the fullness of time there is nothing more special about Jackie Chan than Ronald Reagan, once we were able to see everyone on the planet a bit more directly we found many people who do plenty of both without the soul crushing penalties of bowing to super oppressive nationalism. Also this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_of_Jeet_Kune_Do
People just don’t understand this. Personal development is an infinite goal. Given enough time or the right perspective anyone can become an uncivilized villain. From Mohammad to MLK to Gandhi. On one hand it’s important to point out people’s short comings. But on the other hand you gotta learn to appreciate people for what they are instead of what they are not.
I don't know how much of Jackie's vocal support of the CCP is forced by the government or if they're his true feelings. Either way, I can still appreciate his films for the craft and artistry they demonstrate
@@calaveracode4235 Yes and because the CCP is so innocent that they banned the majority of foreign reporters to visit Xinjiang and some hand picked reporters allowed to go in with close supervision and can only see children show just like they have in North Korea.
what's sad is it's not only Jackie Chan. Donnie Yen also expressed support of mainland China about the Hong Kong protests. many celebrities will probably stand with China because it's better for their career stability.
Nope most people view china as being more stable compared to the pro democracy camp when they protest abd wreck things just to show that they care about HK.
@who cares police brutality is a subjective notion, at one end you get protestors that throws bricks, use knives and molotovs. For the police to not have a baton or a shield to protect themselves is like asking a police officer to get murdered on site. What i view regarding the stance in HK is that the police officers do a self defence mechanisms against the protestors which is protected under the clause "section 36 of the offences against person ordinance", "section 17 and 19 of the offences against the persons ordinance" and also "section 40 of the offences against the persons ordinance". These violent protestors broke the law and yet most of them are still largely hold not accountable for their actions. I have yet to see that the protestors that carries bricks and knives during the protest are protected by the law which is why i support the police for this case
When I was a little kid Jackie Chan was someone I greatly admired alongside Bruce Lee (especially) as well as Jet Li, and even Donnie Yen once I learned who he was. I don't hate the man, but I do fault him for some of his transgressions. I used to see Jackie's communist support as being born more out of not wanting to pay the price for bravery and encouragement of freedom, but I can't say that I believe that anymore now knowing that his original stance was so different. Of all the things that caused me to lose respect for him however has more to do with the treatment of his illegitimate daughter from an affair he apparently had as a younger man. He is well aware he has a daughter and who she is, but he refuses to acknowledge her existence and does nothing to support her. I've also heard that the daughter's mother takes out her bitterness on said child, and it's just so sad to hear, assuming this is true of course. One of the things I've always admired about Bruce Lee, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, and other martial arts legends of film has always been their overall integrity and strength of character, which I view as being just as important and interesting as the martial artists' physical skills themselves, if not more so. I used to see Jackie Chan as a warm-hearted and kindly man, but how kind can a man be when he won't even see his own child, especially if he knows that she suffers? I've never seen chosen idols or personal heroes as infallible, but in Jackie's case I must admit there was a time when I held my expectations too high as it turns out. They say never meet your heroes, but I say don't expect them to always be 100% heroic either.
Jackie is not perfect, but when you see what Hongkong rioters have done, you will understand better Jackie: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3QAcFgXuvEk.html the rioters are very violent and hate the mainlanders, nothing to do with the democracy, even if they pretend,
@@Emilechen when you got government officials stripping away your freedom and privacy I don't blame them for taking serious action if this is the action that will get everyone's attention then so be it
was there lots of evidence regarding jackie's illegitimate daughter being officially his? i mean jackie chan and his popularity will always attract people who will try to take advantage of his wealth. i think for his case of being a pro government from being pro-democracy in the late 80s. This was a difficult choice he had to take since it was probably die in poverty and retain your honor / goodness or be the government's lackey and be rich as fuck.
@@nald420 You make a fair point, and from what I've been able to find it seems that she is actually his child. Apparently she has since made contact with Jackie but claims he has very little to do with her due to her moving to Canada and marrying her girlfriend. She has stated her parents are homophobic and for a while she and her wife were homeless for a period of time but have since gained footing all their own. It seems that she has no interest in mooching money off of anyone although who can really say for certain. In all fairness I suppose it's a matter that is tough to prove one way or another, especially from the outside looking in through a window too small to provide a clear picture of the truth.
@@orbitalpotato9940 you can see from the scale of the protestor. there is no silent majority, the fellow who didn't attend the protest must have been busy and needs to do other things. are you sure the protestor beating up people who are not protesting ?
@@orbitalpotato9940 The end of Apartheid was justified regardless of many individuals who killed others brutally to see it done Majority of Hong Kongers support the end of unjustified CCP interference but would not support people getting brick'd to death
Doesn’t everyone understand that as you grow, mature, deal with life issues, your opinions can and more then likely change. It’s his opinion and his opinion alone. Like they have an opinion and no one can make them change it.
He's a fkin sell out. Plain and simple. Thanks for the advice from your high seat. You get nose bleeds looking down on the rest of us from that high. Bum.
@@svideos5754 And you know that how??? Guess you haven’t grown or changed your views based on growth and maturity. Well I have so I believe other people do as well. Another thing is when have people become so darn judgmental? If your not perfect where does anyone believe they have the right to judge.
@@brenancheong2071 How does my statement make you believe I am sitting on a high seat. It’s quite laughable. I don’t blame him for walking off if his own people treat him like this. I would want to distance myself too.
In Hong Kong he was known as a superstar (makes money but can’t go so far), does movies in Hollywood known as a comedian (makes lots of money but gets laughed for doing it), moves to China (gets rich and live comfortably). Somewhere along the line Jackie Chan turned full 180 and I think as an American we took him for granted. Plus Hong Kong is known for kung fu, music, and drama but can go to a limit due to popularity and population. China was able to give him the respect he wants and to live prosperity. I think if America gave him the respect he wanted, he would’ve move here to the US instead of China. It’s sad to hear that his values set with communist China but he chose his side and that’s all I can respect.
He was loved here in America so I don't know what you mean about us not respecting him unless you mean the horrible film industry ? He was very good at telling funny stories and he did some funny scenes in his movies where we were supposed to laugh . But he was certainly beloved and highly respected here . When he would go on those evening shows like David Letterman everybody would pay attention to every word Jackie Chan said .
Jackie Chan or any other Chinese celebrity can lose everything they have at any point of time. .. Remember Fan Bing Bing( hers was a different reason though)
If Jackie Chan is anything, he is first and foremost, a patriot who loves his nation. If he genuinely believes that the CPC is a positive force for good in China, then he is right to believe so, for the CPC is indeed a boon for China, proven by the fact that under its leadership, more than 800 million Chinese have been lifted out of poverty in the last 40 years, and as of last year, poverty has been eradicated in the country. That is on top of the fact that the CPC industrialized the most populous country in the world, a backwards nation when it assumed leadership in 1949, turning China into a modern prosperous superpower that can rival the USA technologically. Who in the 1950s to 80s would dare imagined that China would one day achieve a level of technological advancement such as 5G as to make the USA declare a state of emergency over it? Or that China could compete with the USA in space exploration with the first soft landing on the far side of the moon, the first unmanned collection and retrieval of lunar soil, or the first Martial rover with lander mission?
Fan Bingbing was caught paying NONE of her income taxes which incited a national outcry. She was heavily fined to set an example for others' reference.
Jackie Chan is a partiot, he lived under biritsh colonialism. you are really brainwashed if you think he supports the gov only because he is paid or threatened, not because the genuine loves his country
good chance he's being blackmailed on some level he's been on the top of the heap for decades, people like that get bored and start to dabble in risque behavior. wouldn't be hard for the CCP to dangle something over his head. Even if he was clean as a whistle it wouldn't be hard to come up with tax evasion or his sons drug problems to get at him. the CCP generally gets what the CCP wants, for better or worse, especially in China
That is definitely a good argument. If someone who has never worked on cars, tells you to buy a new one, it would be appropriate to say, "You don't know what you're talking about."
@@alejandroblue4675 because it is a fact that the person has never worked on cars. HOWEVER, it is an opinion when you say he doesn’t know what he’s talking about
His Son Jaycee was also caught with a Large amount of Heroin (over the Death Penalty Limit) so the Government only sent him to Rehab instead of Prison or Death row!
of course ccp wouldnt dare execure a world famous rich citizen son wouldnt go well on worldwide news. but chan probably paid the best china lawyer or even the judge and court stuff
@Ar S you're right, China's killing their own citizens by food poisoning them I've watched an episode in Aljazeera about that, China's invading other countries territory including ours which is PH 🇵🇭 and I guess they're doing it because they are communist greedy for power and authority, they impose fear and persecute those who would not follow what they want you to do, so that the people would obey them (communism is against free well and freedom and it's not good after all). Jackie Chan is my all time favorite actor I grow up watching his movies and it saddens me seeing and hearing him being pro communism 😖
@@fleyua7176 it's not about US, because I'm not referring to US, all I am talking about is the type of government, communism in my opinion is not good because as I have observed communism has the authoritarian power, if you don't agree with their governance the leader has the power to do something (hurt/threaten) you and also they tend to invade other countries territory, all that matters to them are power over everything, they don't care about the people or being considerate unto others.
"He does't know what he's talking about" Just because you don't agree with someone's opinion that doesn't mean that they don't know what they're taking about.
mc lil Zen the poet I didn’t know you had to travel. All he needs is internet access. But I wouldn’t blame him for not coming after the stuff they said.
@@RRDB92 People probably wouldn't care as much as they do for this. Trump is really nothing compared to the CCP. That being said, I am disappointed in his political views, but that doesn't stop me from respecting his work.
Used to love Jackie as a person, and i still love some of his movies. But he is the definition of Da Wai Xuan which, translated to English, is someone who spreads chinese propaganda to the outside world in seemingly not so obvious manners.
so what? even anti-communist media like Falun gong's spread fake news and get critics from US mainstream medias: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-USE-8GfmzKc.html Jackie China is Chinese, he is proud of the achievement of China in so many fields, what's wrong?
Yes exactly. They are hating on him for knowingly reasons. I am a big admirer of Jackie chan. Watching his movies and interviews on his career doesn't mean we have to love his personal life and his opinions like someone said in the comment section of this.
I still love me some Jackie and I know all the things people are saying about him, but remember, a man can say and do things to save face, but feel a completely different story on the inside. No one knows what that man's really thinking or how he's feeling. No one truly knows what things he may have had to give up and thoughts he had to silence. Who's to say his career wasn't threatened if he didn't say or do the right things? It's always simple for others to be disappointed when their heroes aren't as pristine in real life as they are in media, so please remember there's a defining line between the two and real life heroes seldom make clean choices to preserve their appearance and careers. Sometimes the ugly choices they've made were the only ones opened to them at the time.
@@dg594 Well man, I know it sounds tough, but ya never know what things happened to him while he was growing older. As a young man Jackie had a different view of life and liberties, but now that he's older and not as active anymore, they probably finally caught up with him and gave him "the choice". Screw the money, who knows what other threats if any the government issued. I hate hearing and seeing how your hero has greatly disappointed you, but there's always two sides to a conversation.
No one expects him to be perfect but no one cares how he's feeling inside if he's willing to throw his peoples freedom away for cash. He's outspoken support for a group who want to take freedom away from his country, if he's not criticized now when should he be.
@@devanman7920 Don't worry, his time will come. It's ugly now, but slowly you'll hear and or see of some comeuppance for his choices. I think one instance was his passing on the chance to be in Everywhere, Everything All At Once (probably got something mixed up and wrong XD). Michelle definitely deserved all the praise she got as the leading actress, but to hear that good news could've went to Jackie....now that's some form of karma. It could've been the role to revitalize his acting career, but the stars were against him.
Exactly, how do we know he's doing it for money? We don't, we don't know what sort of threats the ccp could have given him, maybe he's doing for him or his family's life. We don't know his situation
@@RedsHitpostMedia its his home, no mater how hard life is some people would never want to live anywhere else but the country the were born in, the guy has lots of money but he choose to stay, unlike jet Lee
Either you die a Hero, Or you live long enough to see yourself become the Villain, But I don't think movie stars are true Heroes, just out to make a quick buck.
