See this what erk me, on its face it’s justified shooting, but why say “drop the knife” then give him a split second. He wanted this kill it’s just disgusting all around. Just shoot him because he was presenting danger what you asking for??
dominique williams Think about it this way. If it was you who had a knife pressed against your neck, would you want them to hesitate? All it would take is half the time it took the cop to shoot him for that man to have killed you
i disagree....trash is worth way more then that and that's not taking into recycling account....um that thing is stealing oxygen from more deserving people
It was hard to watch. I could not see anything. Florida Man looked like he had the Holtzman shield from Dune. But it's only the slow blade that penetrates the shield.
Not even close to a liberal, but enough time to comply with the order at least. Just think if you were holding your phone or something a cop thought was a weapon, and before you could even drop it you were shot. Would you still think it was justified you got shot?
This situation is sad, both homeless men fighting & the guy he had at knife point is a homeless veteran, this country need to take care of its citizens better especially the vets
@Keep Rocking! Even if that was the case, holding a knife to the neck of a guy in a wheelchair is a bit excessive don't you think? I mean if he stole from him or something just call the cops. If you do what he did you get shot.
Reporter: how long before you give someone a chance to respond ......Investigator should have said : if it was you with a knife to your throat how long would you want the officer to wait ??
Like the safety expert said "he looked at the officer (therefore acknowledgement was established) and never moved the knife from the victim (also knife was on the victims chest/throat area)". They only WANTED this released in the hopes they could find some wrong doing on the officers part, but they failed. I love how those who want to blame officers for bs are the first to run to them for safety.
Not to be disrespectful but the homeless guy is stout and in a wheelchair. He couldn't possibly move away in panic. And he must've been still in shock so it kinda makes sense to me.
Keith Burns Doing his job or not, anyone that saves another’s life is a hero, maybe not to you but in the eyes of the person they saved they probably are.
just imagine this crackhead holding that knife to your child's throat and it suddenly isn't sad anymore. 😀 And your welcome for the free therapy session.
The fact that he was still holding the knife at the guy's throat as the officer approached tells you everything you need to know that was a Justified shooting. One loser down.
I mean the shooting isnt justified but it sure was a good thing. One less criminal on the streets so I wont question it any further but you can clearly see he slowly pulled the knive away as soon as the officer gave him the order. So no, not justified but I think it was for the best.
Took a life to save a life, that will still weigh on your the soul though. I feel sorry for the officer in this case but the shooting was absolutely justified!
That homeless man exclaiming “oh, thank god” is actually kinda wholesome to me. Poor guy could’ve died and he literally couldn’t run or do anything. That cop is a hero for sure
That cop sacrificed a part of his mind so quick in order to save a life. I bet he‘ll dream about that, but he didn‘t lose a second to save a life. Hero.
because he didnt give him anytime to really react, plus he shot him fatally when he could have given a warning shot, tased him, or shot him in the leg or lower torso .... thats why
@@johndough7039 If I ever tell someone to drop a weapon, they'd better comply IMMEDIATELY! Most civilians just don't understand the EXTREME deadly nature of an edged weapon. I'm only gonna tell them once.
you make it seem like the Forcillo shooting but this was an imminent threat to life and he could have shot the suspect without warning him justifiably. if you run towars a cop w a knife, you get shot. they treat all human life in the same fashion, even criminals, but this guy was an immediate threat and even confronting him at all is a risk to the officer and victim.
@@johndough7039 a warning shot is a myth if you fire a warning shot your life is not in danger, and shooting someone in the leg is literally the dumbest thing ever and greatly increases the chances of a fatality.. why no one with any knowledge of firearms and the body doesn’t shoot for the legs lol
@@johndough7039 Warning shots are not allowed. Legs have tons of arteries. Hit one, you’d probably die from blood loss before the paramedics arrive. I don’t think you would want a person threatening others with a knife roaming around town. And you should know when to stop whether you see an officer or not.
Hardcore Absolute Fact: 100% Absolutely no reason to have shot the man! Cop made zero attempt to scare the man off the homeless man! He could have kicked the man off the homeless man or shot him in the leg ( knife would have auto dropped ) and then yelled at him to not move! No lives would have been lost! Cop is a criminal!!! Poorly trained and lacks empathy under pressure!
You can see a small knife on homeless man's chest, and the suspect even started to back away and release the man's hand when cop yelled, yet he had no time to do that. I mean why not, I got the knife on video, I'm a cop, so I might just use this gun already.
Arm chair expert? You obviously are not grounded in reality..."small knife"..."on...chest" sounds so less than lethal. You didn't mention it was pointed at the guys throat...I wonder why. You probably (feel) like the cop shot too many times. Youre not aware of so many tragedies that occurred because cops hesitated.
@Hd34 Hd34 maybe drop the knife? Or attempt to move away from the guy you are holding? Dude froze and well your actions have consequences, he paid for his by not listening.
from what was shown there was no definition of who attacked whom. Man with knife could have been mid self defense against the other guy. Walking in while middomestic violence is a shooting no no in the military. If the officer did not observe the whole altercation he might have killed an innocent man. Way too quick to open fire
Dave Ulrich Because how can the old man actually defend himself? Yes, “legally” he has the strength to, but would anyone really consider him able to? So I’m not criticizing the “legal” part, but just pointing out it seems technically to be a stretch to use that terminology.
It can be hard for some people. Some people have never seen violence and it's hard for them. But most importantly some people have seen too much violence and it's even harder for them
Hardcore Absolute Fact: 100% Absolutely no reason to have shot the man! Cop made zero attempt to scare the man off the homeless man! He could have kicked the man off the homeless man or shot him in the leg ( knife would have auto dropped ) and then yelled at him to not move! No lives would have been lost! Cop is a criminal!!! Poorly trained and lacks empathy under pressure!
Suicide by cop. I agree the cop was a little too quick on the trigger, but dude, if he would've waited one second and "crazy eye" killed that poor man, everybody would've been screaming, "why didn't you shoot the fool!" I would've felt terrible if I tried to save them both but ended up losing them both. And dude had that knife on his neck for long enough, he knew what was coming.
Oh no. The sound of gunshots can be quite unpleasant. ...if you're hearing them cracking your direction with no cover nearby. Other than that, I kinda like the sound sound of gunfire. In fact...I'm feeling a bit empty inside because it's been so long since I've heard a shot fired in anger.
What would happen if he did tase him. His body would spasm and he had a knife on a persons neck. What if because of the tase the suspect ended up stabbing the victim.
@@kirasato1012 this was meant to be an ironic comment. Thats why I wRoTe It LiKe ThIs. I intended to mock the idiots which, no matter the situation, always say there are tasers. Even though tasers obviously arent reliable enough in such situations
Are you positive? He wasn't given much time at all to react (in fact, he may not have even had a chance to properly react), and by what I saw, he was actually pulling the knife back and starting to move away when the officer chose to shoot him.
exactly ,,,,,,,, amazing that isn't clear to the blind people out there that can not imagine being in the situation of such a danger. I would love to see these high brow reporters would react to being held at knife point by a crazed individual. " I have to wait until he stabs you in the neck before i can take action , due to the knew guidelines we have been subjected to, sorry, just give it a minute, i have to ask him politely 10 times and adhere to the demands of the offender first"
ThesexyMrX non lethal action has zero gray area. It is very clear within a departments Policy when to use non lethal force and when to use lethal force. This situation called for the immediate use of lethal force in order to protect someone. A taser, which renders your muscles uncontrollable.., is not a good play when the aggravator has a knife to someone’s throat. Pepper spray is going to cause a lot of erratic movement which once again I don’t think is a good play when a blade is placed upon someone’s neck. So what do you recommend?
@@john3156 I recommend a gun shot to the shoulder, arm, hand leg etc. Anything to put the offender in shock. Not a fan of tazing, it may have shocked the victim. He already had his weapon pulled, im not saying put it away and contemplate other means... my comment refers to the lack of comments regarding non lethal force. Thats all.
What difference does it make when body-cam footage is released? A man's life was clearly in danger and the officer's actions were appropriate. End of story.
Didn't give him any time to comply, idk who murders someone staring at a police officer, and shot 3 times for no reason basically assuring that he would die. Seems off. I feel like if it were handled differently no one would have had to die. Not like I feel bad or anything, but it's dangerous to excuse a police officer for quite literally, jumping the gun.
@@telesnow 'Shot 3 times for no reason'? You mean, apart from holding a knife to a persons throat? How much time should he have been given? Perhaps enough to actually stab the guy in the wheel chair and kill him?
@@nzgunnie he was backing off slow down the footage. Who kills a man with a knife without looking at them? 3 times is basically wanting him to die. 1 bullet is plenty. Not sure why cops shoot way more than they need too.
@@telesnow I guess the cop didn't have the luxury of slowing down the footage like you did, and, it's just your guess at what the guy was about to do. Cop was clearly looking at him, as he hit him with his shots.
PATSFAN420 he has a knife to somebody's throat you can't just be like please put the knife down it takes 0 seconds for that man to slice the old mans throat. not murder.
@@Un_Abandoned What are you talking about. A very bad person was killed and the world is now a better place. If he had a knife to your neck I'm sure you would want someone to do whatever was necessary to stop him.
@@Un_Abandoned Wait so your saying is purpose is having his death laughed at and justifyed by some random people? I wouldnt wanna be that guy let me tell you that.
When seconds count, WOW the officer was right on target...thank you GOD is right! I can't believe some people actually think the officer should have given more time? Let me "clarify that point" if you "snooze you lose not just one but two victims! I cannot imagine being trapped in a wheel chair with no place to GO and some one has a knife touching my throat?
he used that to distract the man, if he had just shot him it is possible a spasm could have driven the knife up. in this way the officer took the focus off the elderly handicapped man and put it entirely on himself.
@@markperry2827 Well unfortunately his actions warranted for people to call the police and report that somebody is attacking people with a knife. Cop get's that report and arrives on seen and hey, would you look at that. Somebody seems to be attacking another person with a knife. One looks old and disheveled in a wheelchair with both empty hands sticking up in the air and the other is beared down on him holding a knife directly against his throat. Now you have to make a decision and make it quick. Are they playing or is this real?
For the man in the wheelchair to say, “thank god” justifies the shooting enough. The officer saved the life of that man and no doubt about it, his own. When faced with a situation like this where a split second could result in the death of an innocent bystander or yourself, anyone would drop him too.
@Lion of Zion "you people". ah yes, thank you so much for showing your true colors! my question to you is, is it innocent until proven gulity or guilty until proven innocent?
Officer saw a white man being threaten so he responded immediately just like when white people call cops they come in a heart beat but if it's not a white person then they take time. Typical.
@@romeoromeo3828 Why are you questioning it? The guy had a knife close to the victims neck, if he felt like it he could've taken the victim down with him. The officer was right to shoot the man. You people always turn it into a race problem.
and homeless to boot. like someone else said besides the idiot shot the only thing wrong is this homeless wheelchair bound man..honestly.. theres absolutely no need for all these homeless..damnit
Good job officer, saved that man's life!!! The media is never happy with your hard work and dedication. Keep up the good work serving and protecting this community!!
Exactly! This cop has to live with this now shooting another man dead like that Reguardless the situation will do a number on your psyche. Cop did what he had to do. He served an protected. Kudos to him for not hesitating an just taking out the threat
@@igcommenthub deadly force needs to be met woth deadly force. If that cop had used his taser the victim could have been stabbed in the throat well before the assailant was rendered incapacitated. Also, tasers dont work 100% of the time but bullets do. The officer made the right and only call he could make there.
@@robertjohnson6284 *well if George would stop trying to resist and obey the officer and just quietly go with them then he would of still be alive today.*
Honestly it doesn't seem like enough time for someone to respond, especially when caught off guard. Moral of the story? Don't hold a knife to someone's neck. Period
The cop already had the right to shoot him as he ran up to the scene. When a suspect is threatening a civilians life like that, you dont have to tell them or ask them to stop lol. Jjst shoot them and get on with your day.
Yeah I think he was letting go of the homeless guy at least it appeared so but he shouldn't of ever done it to start with. Plus wtf you going to gain from doin that to a homeless guy?
@@jasonandersen5975 Absolutely it was, the "smart" thing to do, as the knifer in that situation is immediately drop it with a clear open hand. Not even pull it back and drop it as that can be perceived as a preparation for a thrust, but literally drop it like a hot potato right there. The things Cops have to deal with, you bet they aren't wasting time waiting for you to drop it, split second decisions.
The fact that, right at the beginning of the piece, there's a guy walking along who is obviously in need of help but nothing is said about it is just the perfect encapsulation of the US media. "We're talking about something sensational and grim but please just ignore the abject poverty on show".
nickys34 he had the knife right up on the guy what do you mean? Obviously his intentions were to hurt the man in the wheelchair you think the officer had time to give the guy holding the knife? The man coulda stabbed the man in the wheelchair in one second
@nickys34 You really need more life experience. It would have taken zero effort for the mugger to stick the knife into the disabled mans throat and kill him. Zero. Effort. There is also plenty of video evidence to back up what i'm saying, the most glaring one is the video from south america where a guy with a knife 3 times the size of the one seen here stabbed the woman he was holding hostage at least 6 times before the cops killed him. The problem was they gave him the time to do it. Put down the game controller and learn something.
@@nbgforlive you only saw a man on drugs holding a knife to another man's throat. A man who didn't react to the officer loudly approaching him, didn't respond to a verbal command to drop the weapon, didn't do anything but stare wildly at the officer when he spoke. What you saw was an officer pop and drop a knife-wielding suspect and save a disabled man's life.
@@truckintom40 I don't judge the officer because I don't know what I would do in that situation. I only wanted to say that I find it disrespectful how people react in the comments about a guy who's life is taken.
@@nbgforlive I don't look at it as a guys life was taken... I look at it as a guys life was saved. And possibly more lives. If the cop hadn't responded, who's to say that the knife wielder wouldn't do the same to others. Most likely would have. Or, even worse, carried out the underlying threat and just start slashing instead of threatening. My first thought was "Thank god he saved that man." My second thought was "Thank god he saved anyone else from being threatened as this man was." Greater good came from killing someone with such disregard for people than in finding a way to subdue him.
I think if someone has a knife up to someone you shouldn’t need to wait at all for them to comply, you shouldn’t even need to announce yourself, it’s shoot on sight.
They are on about why it took over a year to show the video…. If it is justifiable to kill… which I’m not saying it isn’t… why wait over a year to release the footage that shows it’s justified
@YoUtUbE FactcChecker Technically a shot to the head would be much more adorable, since well, putting a civilian to risk of death, shooting at torso might been not enough, maybe he was on drugs or drunk so no pain and the poor boi on the chair now has 28 stab wounds
@@thatguystalker8649 dude, head is more difficult to hit and missing a shot means it will go else where and can hit someone.... The smart thing is to shoot to the body...
@@alonsop9861 What can I say ? Training, policeman are training a lot, you’ve seen many times policeman just one tapping people left and right into the head
So, help me out, even when totally justified, the media still feels compelled to question something inconsequential as the period of time of the release of the video. The officer was justified in saving another man's life - is there any other question we need to ask other than the media's morbid curiosity in watching the actual video!
Yes, i would say there should be more questions to ask, like: - who is the oryginal owner of the knife? - why would a guy who has a job and home need to robb someone who has nothing? - how is it justified when they were wrestling with a knife in hand for like 10-20 min and non got hurt, but the cop arived and manage to kill someone in 2s?
It's simple "optics". There are heaps of justified shootings from both police and normal citizens that you'll never see popularized. It's only when someone throws a fit that it becomes national news and a media company can feed off that for months at a time. So, often, when a full justified incident like this is presented...the media just "try" as best they can to make it controversial because they want those ratings, those views, that 'fervor', etc. Many years ago, we had five shooting incidents in a week...not one of them made the local paper or news - because we were doing a politically sensitive job and it was not palatable/etc. Just typical media manipulation at its finest.
When an officer has his gun pointed at you while ordering you to put down your knife you don't just stand there and think about it. YOU PUT DOWN THE KNIFE!
Silentknight, give the man a few seconds to process what he just heard and who said it. The cop didn't even give the man a chance to respond. The cop was trigger happy and couldn't wait to shoot the man. That's wrong!
Emeka Adibe Wow moron....... Who cares what the officer said or who said it? You can’t be actively threatening someone’s life with a deadly weapon and not expect others to try and save the person being assaulted. Maybe next time you’ll be the victim, you can calmly tell the officer to wait a few seconds for your perp to process his next move. Meanwhile he takes .5 seconds to stick that knife 7” into the side of your neck. With your last breath you can thank the virtuous officer for giving your attacker time to process his situation. It happens in the snap of a finger.
I’m gonna have to side with his comment he’s not wrong people these days are too scared and they react too slowly the dude barely gave him over a second to react before he open shots on him the guy looked like he was backing away from the dude in the wheelchair. I understand why people can’t control their fears these days and people will do anything just to feel safe including harming another person before they think that person will harm them. People have become more scared and weaker if you ask me. And honestly the cop could’ve open fire on that dude shoulder with the arm that was holding the knife.
thunder01xb Clearly you’ve never been in a high adrenaline life or death situation such as this or ever shot a handgun. I’d have double bagged it. Nice Monday morning QB skills.,
Gnostic Sabaton 2 cops could not detain one man, problem number one. He was running away and got shot in the back that’s problem number 2 Problem number 3 is... well the officer got charged with murder and shouldn’t have... what am I talking about..
When the cop saw the knife to the guys throat he realized he had to do something, he didnt shoot him because he was on drugs, he shot him be cause he was about to kill someone else
He didn't though because a taser would've stopped it just as fast and he could've made an arrest but these are blood hunting of the officers, who enjoy the buzz of shooting and murdering without fear of any charges. He found himself a situation whereby its "justifiable" and "heroic" in the eyes or everyone else ignorant to the immorality behind the human action, and knew full well a taser would've incapacitated that man to get him to the floor and arrest him.
@@igcommenthub tasers don't work 100 percent. And the muscle spasm from the taser could have caused him to cut the victim anyways. He was attempting to harm an elderly disabled homeless man, he deserved it
There was someone sleeping behind the bench that whole time. Laying down just chillin when the guy has knife at another guys neck and only mildly-disturbed when he gets shot.
What is difficult to watch, is the reporter asking “how much time is typically allowed for someone to respond” as though the cop was trigger happy. Mam, how much you like the cops to wait if it was your neck on the line?!
@king So, you're saying that you feel sorry for the knife wielding man and not the disabled victim in the wheelchair because he didn't have time to drop his weapon held to the others throat???
