He was too hyper after leaving JYPE, not paying any attention to his words and now he dealt with the consequences, which was probably a wake up call (however it doesn't excuse people sending threats etc.)
The thing also people don't do is realize is jae though it was a joke that would make her laugh and before making those joke he should ask what extent he can joke with her
Also it's kinda sad how people paint him as a bad person because even though there are the controversial things he's also done alot of good especially towards mental health
@@Ju-bz7yt yeah. he did some super fucked up stuff. he does seem like a genuine and kind guy deep down but i feel like he has some sorting out to do before he comes back on social media. he does not seem in a stable head space. he already stated he would be taking a break so what we can hope is that he recovers and educates himself.
i feel like he’s drunk on freedom after leaving jype. but that doesn’t mean he can start talking about anything and everything without being polite/filtering/respect.
He was so fucking talented for music, he had so much potential to be successful, it's so sad seeing how he's destroying himself, he already lost a lot of fans and there's no apology that can take them back Edit: The moment men understand that they have a misogynistic mind because they were raised in a misogynistic world and don't feel ashamed of assume it... The moment when they start to learn from their mistakes
@@camlee2341 To be fair dude like that's not something you should say, even if its just banter, which of course jae had intended for it to be, it's still distasteful and can hurt people, which is why it's not okay, and in this case Jamie was hurt by Jae's "joke"
@@camlee2341 there's no need for being insensitive, the "joke" was misogynistic and his friend and fans were hurt, if it doesn't hurt you that's on you but please don't invalidate other people's feelings
damn the comments on his most recent instagram post are ruthless. keep in mind that i’m not defending jae at ALL. what he said was definitely wrong and definitely deserves criticism and he needs to be held accountable, but some of y’all are taking it too far. telling him to quit music, to kill himself, and that he doesn’t deserve to be on this world? how do you feel about yourself? do you think you’re any better than the way he acted by saying stuff like that? no. and last time i checked, he doesn’t owe y’all anything. the person he insulted is jamie, so the apology is for jamie and it’s up to her and jae to talk between themselves like the adults they are. us as fans should just mind our business and let them handle it. we don’t always have to get involved in everything that happens between idols. don’t get me wrong, be mad all you want. in fact, i was VERY disappointed when i found out he did this. but at the end of the day, if you don’t support him anymore, then ignore him, block him, unfollow him… do what you gotta do. stop trying to spam all these hateful comments on jamie’s behalf, because she may be disappointed but she definitely would NOT go as far as condoning what y’all are saying about jae. and don’t get me started on the people who most likely didn’t know who jamie or jae were before this scandal, yet are here commenting rude things for the sake of being mean and creating more drama then there already is. honestly, how are you NOT ashamed? as we all know he has mental health issues as well as panic disorder, which definitely doesn’t condone how he’s been acting but it should definitely be taken into consideration before commenting shit on his posts. again, if you are part of the people i saw in his instagram comments, you are no better than him and you are in no way, shape, or form “defending jamie” by doing what you’re doing, so please leave him alone.
This is so fucking sad to see. To the people taking it to the extreme and wishing he never does music again and harms himself....Do you guys think you are any better talking to a human like that? He obviously knows he fucked up. And the apology is for Jamie to accept not you. Just leave him alone and stop being 10x worse. Things are getting out of hand you can hold him accountable but doesn't mean you attack him.
thissss. like you’re allowed to be disappointed and all, but at the end of the day it’s up to jamie to decide whether or not the apology was sincere or not. i’ve seen people complaining about how the apology “isn’t enough” and even breaking it down on why they think it’s insincere and i’m just like “last time i checked, the apology was for jamie, not you.” i honestly hate when this happens. something happens between two idols and fans end up getting involved. let them handle it amongst themselves like the adults they are smh. obviously what jae said wasn’t okay, and he should be held accountable but like you said, people are doing too much. if you check the comments on his recent instagram post, they’re so ruthless to him. like if y’all don’t like him, what are you doing on his page in the first place? i’m even in the middle of deciding whether or not i’m gonna continue supporting him but even if i decide not to, i wouldn’t go as far as wishing him bad things and saying that he should stop making music. that’s just too much.
He’s a cool ass dude, he’s funny and personable but he’s sooooo painfully immature. Like it legitimately hurts. It’s like he’s been focusing on kpop, music, etc. he lost all sense of social skills and it’s sad to see him keep doing this to himself.
I used to like him sm, and i would defend his past actions against my cousin cause she didn’t like him from the moment he started acting out… now I finally see it. Jae i have no idea wth is going on in your personal life for you to keep acting this way. Your core fanbase ARE GIRLS/WOMEN. Wth did you expect insulting 1. your friend 2. women like that… I do believe you did not understand the weight of your words but that’s totally ON YOU. It’s just very much giving “let me joke about women to the boys cause that’ll give me some laughts and giggles”. And you are so talented as well. A beautiful voice, a stage presence you can’t just teach someone… you could have been so big
This comments that says "this is his true colors" "he is a bad person " are those that are so stupid, just bcs he said something really bad doesn't mean that he is bad person if he was a bad person then he would not have even apologized in the first place, and just made it like nothing happened he is feeling like shit cause of what he said in the shows that he regrets it and he didn't mean any of that, he is goina talk to Jaime and they will probaly talk this trough
Damn lookin at this comment section I can see why he feels like he got shackles around him, I mean what he said was bad and needs to be taken care of between him and jamie, but damn y'all out here actin like he killed a puppy or sumn, he used a word he picked up in a community that nonchalantly throws it around, no it's not good, but it's understandable why he didn't understand the gravity that word can hold, the weight of which is significantly elevated when used towards an artist/friend that's *now* in, culturally, such a vastly different environment. Also he ain't owe y'all anything damnn y'all need to chill with that parasocial stuff, his mistake is his to own and apologize for *TO JAMIE* (not y'all.. idk why you think you're entitled to that..) and Jamie's to take a stance on and decide to forgive or not (again.. not y'all), you can have an opinion on the matter, but he ain't y'alls to condemn and control just chill, that is not a healthy dynamic to have.. My friends and I call each other thots, sluts hell even whores but we don't mean anything by it, it's obviously just a joke, if you're offended it's a cultural difference, sorry to say.. and I think jae's mistake is simply misreading the friendship dynamic he had with jamie, they just need to set clear boundaries and understand each others limits, he thought cs jamie flames him that he could hash it back, but that wasn't the case, doubt he actually meant it maliciously or with intent to hurt her, but again that is THEIR boundaries to set NOT yours (back to that parasocial thing)
You can see clearly through his attitude that he just wants to avoid getting cancelled at all costs and thats it. it's only after the fans and jamie felt hurt by his statements that he felt the obligation to explain or apologize (in some way ig) and not because he actually realized how his words were not appropriate at all, and thats the saddest part. He better take a break or something or he'll just dig his grave deeper and deeper. I hope the whole industry isnt full of ppl just hiding away their problematic opinions like him.
To me one of the things that bothered me about this stream was his response to "don't do it again" was "I hope not", what is that even supposed to mean? Not calling someone a thot again or fuck up like this? Just thought it was a weird response to that, like as if he doesn't have control over what happens on stream and what he says. You'd think he would say something along the line of "I need to think more carefully before I speak or try to make a joke that might offend someone", "I'll try to do better in the future" or something. It doesn't feel like to me that he fully understands what he did wrong as he's just mumbling and rambling about it.
I really think he’s genuinely sorry, if I were in his position I wouldn’t be caring about other peoples comments because its nothing to do with them, I would just be caring about my friend who I hurt 😕so I hope some how he works things out with her, but unfortunately their friendship is probably never gonna be the same
Even if really is a bad person, even if he meant what he said, I don't want to wake up one day and get the news we got about sulli. So yall better be more than ask him to be, be mature and responsible with your words, this thing is going to be resolved between jamie and jae, we have almost nothing to talk about it As a woman I am hurt because of what jae did but as a person I'm scared because people are out there being cruel and using this as an excuse
I'm extremely disappointed in Jae and his inability to judge what is right and wrong and the fact that he has continued to make the same kind of repetitive mistakes without seeming to learn or grow.. however, I'm even more disappointed in the people who are using this situation to verbally abuse someone who is openly mentally not stable, someone who gets depressed and has anxiety attacks, the fact that you can tell him to harm himself is really disgusting. If you really "hate" him that much just ignore him, don't write messages and tweets... if you can learn smth from Jae it's that you never know how much your words weigh until it's too late.
Thank God there's people that understans EVERYONE can mess things up. Idols are not perfect, so we shouldnt expect them to be like that. I'm not excusing the disgusting thing he said, I'm just saying that everyone can make mistakes, and we are not angels to keep judging and hating on him. May he thinks on what he said, and fix things up with Jamie. I'm just mad at people hating on him like if theyre perfect beings
i somewhat agree with you. he seriously fucked up and hurt not just jamie, but a whole community of people. however he has made mistakes similar to this in the past and at this point it’s clear social media is hurting him more then benefiting him. what we should do as fans is hope that jae gets the help that he needs, sorts things out with jamie and himself, and takes a long social media break. we should continue to give lots of support to the day6 members as well as jamie.
@@andreapl8819 EXACTLY, like I saw someone on RU-vid saying that "being supportive to idols" is a toxic mentality, like WTF??? but yeah. He really made a mess, so may he reflects on his actions, and most importantly, fix things up with Jamie, cuz according to her tweets, that word really hurt her.
I am 100% sure he meant it as a joke and without malicious intent. But ignorant of the fact that you can't say anything and not have it effect anyone and that everyone will take it as a joke. Context matters. If he was joking around with just her maybe it wouldn't have been so bad, but maybe still she'd be like yo that's too much. But to make a disrespectful joke like that behind her back is different. Not to mention using a term that's meant to demean women. It is different when you're playing online with something and calling each other names vs you just talking shit about how your friend dresses and poses in photos.
@@cestaap ya im glad they will talk in person. He can actually see her and look at her face when they talk about why it upset her instead of just living life through a screen.
To people still defending him: You don't get to accept his apology. Only Jamie has the right. Plus, he didn't even apologize to the MyDays/fans who are watching this kind of behavior, so 🤷♀️ I know we are all hurt about this but don't send him death threats. It's okay to express your disappointment and anger but don't cyberbully him. I've seen a lot commenting on his appearance and that he has no talent whatever. I hope he truly understands the gravity of this situation and not just because of the backclash. The mouth speaks what the heart is full of. Even though he claims to be just joking, I'm 100% sure he meant it one way or another. And he has to own up to this bad behavior. No one is perfect and all of us have had wrong/intrusive thoughts about people but it doesn't mean we can voice them out! He has learn self control especially that he's still a public figure. Whether he likes it or not, I don't think he'll ever rinse himself out of Kpop. This is like a whiplash for me. I liked him because he was a professing Christian. He had a way with humor but was always respectful. All those inspirational and relateable tweets...to this.
@@camlee2341 and because other people are worse is a reason for you to let him of the hook if he fucks up. Jamie was hurt by what he said and it was misogynistic af and he has to deal with the consequences now. If Jamie accepts his apology so will I.
@@camlee2341 Stop being an enabler. Not because other people are doing it doesn't mean it's right. It's already 2022 and we still label women as "thots" because of how they show off skin?
@@nana_hyuck jamie is soft ..she spent a decade in kpop but this hurt her? ok jeez...alot of us joking call our friends sluts and hoes back in high school...it would be differenr if he wasn't friends with her
Do you think it's similar to when people are arguing about a hip hop song? Like, if you're not a part of the black people community, and you find the n* word in the lyrics of your favorite hip hop songs, it is still not ok for you to sing the word out loud. but someone sings it, then, people are angry at them because they're ignorant... As you said, they can 'accept' they are wrong, but they still couldn't understand why. "It's in the lyrics, tho". I've heard bestfriends call each other names jokingly but if you're not in their circle, such name calling is definitely rude. He said, "Tell her, tell her"... I wonder if he really had thought Jamie would have been IN on the joke but it turned out, she was truly hurt. That said, I do think Jae needs help. I wonder if he's not seeking any. I hope he's surrounded by those who care about him and are willing to help him get help AND persist when he refuses to get some.
@@whenwetalkaboutnature4903 i agree i think he thought jamie would’ve been with him on the joke but it didn’t turn out that way, he really just needs to understand his audience better
I hope Jm can explain it to him, slowly. Learning and understanding can come at a slower pace for some, especially people like Jae. The haters putting upon him the expectation that "he should've known better from the beginning" don't know a lick about the learning process.
This reminded me of the time people were trying to cancel Toast for his humor and edgy jokes. And i guess in this situation it escalated very quickly. Cuz what i think is when Jae made the “joke” his thoughts were oh Jamie and I are good friends, we shit on each other every time, we have this kind of friendship where it’s fine to make those edgy jokes. But Jamie on the other hand didn’t know or even agree to make those kind of jokes at each other. Saying idiot and you’re stupid is fine but actually calling someone something awful went too far for her. So it really depended how Jamie would respond which in this case bad (for Jae), cuz if they had the same kind of very edgy humor nothing would’ve happened. Now i’m not saying what Jae said was acceptable at all or that Jamie should open up about Jae’s kind of humor cuz you know a lot like seriously a lot of kpop fans fucking hate edgy humor, they find is unacceptable which is fine, but just remember that all kpop idols had their own character and humor before they became trainees and “brainwashed”. They’re not perfect
It's one thing to joke between each other and joke to an audience of thousands who'll take your words at face value. Like you'd swear and fun-cuss out your friends but you wouldn't do the same thing at the dinner table with your parents or to someone you don't know. There's a time and a place and on twitch to a bunch of strangers who probably don't know Jamie and the only thing they'd know about her through Jae is that she's a 'thot' wasn't the place.
He is the same Jae. He said a long time ago that he has ADHD. Maybe that is the reason why JYPE do not allow him to be a youtuber or a streamer. Because people with ADHD can’t control their behavior. Mostly they are impulsive and act without thinking about what the results will be. And with that condition he will destroy the group and the company maybe the reason why JYPE ended his contract. I really feel bad for Jae. But he is right what he said in this stream, he wonder if he was fucked in the head, looks like he really wasn’t fully aware about his disability. He know he was diagnosed with ADHD but I think they never get medication or therapy for it.
You know whats fucked up? Is that if you say one thing and people will hate you and think that your a bad person and haters use this to spread rumors about that one person which aren't even true
Please dim some light towards the industry be an advocate so that positive changes happens in the industry but don't talk about your friends and sabotage your friendship. Your friends are those whose going to be on your side and have your back when your down. I'm someone who suffers from depression for a long time and know to be able to combat these demons your need your friends. If your going to joke with friends say it with them not behind them.
ik that what he said is wrong, but it doesn't mean he has a very big sin for the blasphemy he has received. guys, his mental health is worrying, pls watch ur comments, don't destroy someone's life.
to everyone saying "he's drunk on freedom": no. no, he's not. GOT7 left JYPE and none of them said or did the stupid shit Jae is doing. I love Day6, I was really excited to see what Jae had for us this year and this is what he does with his "freedom"? I'm sorry but no. "Too much freedom" is an excuse, he's just a selfish, self-absorbed asshole and now that JYPE isn't containing him he's showing his true colors. I'm so disappointed.
Many artists left Jyp Taecyeon of 2pm, Jamie, sunmi and more, but I seen none of them say those types of things. Other artists that left worst companies than JYP like the members of B.A.P that have never said those types of things, I think it's a mixture of jae mental health issues and his habit of speaking before he thinks or fully understanding the weight his words may hold still don't excuse him. (I love you user name and profile pic, I always love seeing another jonghyun bais)
@@Haifa386 Hes also very immature. I Do believe He genuinely thought Hes being funny, and didnt waste a thought on how He will hurt jamie with this, and im doubtful on how much he grasps the reality that mustve Hit him there... Its very sad to See. Laugh with your friends jae, dont joke about them when they arent even with you. Im still shook that He never learned something as simple as that... And about that Kind of joke?? Like?? He really thinks like that about women. My god.
Thing happen he lived for years having to be this family friendly person and on camera but he finally became free. he was allowed to finally be himself but everyone has mistakes. I have had some mistakes as well but calling someone an asshole is also well an asshole move. also telling someone stop making music weather you think you can or not no one can take this kind of hate. so chill out I’m not saying this is ok but this you got to think what he is also going through cause. I also understand and for me it only got out to like 20 people and i felt super bad and regretted it thinking why did i do this. Now imagine millions of people your former fans her fans all attacking you. So I’m saying if you don’t want to forgive him that’s ok but don’t attack him cause he made a mistake let him reflect don’t rub the salt in the wound you make the situation so much worse.
@@bonsai5021 "he was allowed to finally be himself", yeah, a misogynistic asshole. This is not the first time he has done and said horrible stuff, but many of us ignored it because "he makes mistakes, he doesn't mean what he says". Yes, yes he does. And it's time we stop making excuses for a 30yo man. He needs to stop saying offensive shit or get off the internet, that's it.
@@hescutethough2419 I agree with you, I have been supporting day6 since debut and I have defended jae multiple times even when he disrespected neurodivergent people like myself when I haven't defended my ult baises when they have done far less because I believe in holding your favs accountable when they have done a mistake, but that I have broken that rule multiple times for jae and he still has learned and I am not going to defend him no more but I also hate how people are sending him hate.
Eh okay, when he said he didn't know Jamie would react that way. That's how it always goes. A lot of people don't really understand the gravity of their words til they get a reaction. I know he said immediately afterwards that's a bad thing to say (cause it is.) It's a harmful stereotype towards women, of course she would react that way. He wouldn't feel the hurt from it because it doesn't impact him at all. I even have family who act this way so I have personal experience. This kind of humour lacks empathy. It's not funny if it's really hurting another person, doesn't matter if it's your friend or not. What's really important is that Jamie is the one who chooses to not accept/or accept the apology. That's up to her. No fans of Jae should be saying "it's okay, everyone makes mistakes!" and accepting apologies on her behalf, cuz this type of thing could have happened over and over again on her end. We don't know their personal lives. And when people say words like these, knowing it'll have some sort of consequence, they throw them around a lot (even off camera.) Especially cuz he said he didn't know the gravity of the word, yet he said he's out of kpop now so he can say that statement. He should've researched the definition of it.. agh Some cuss words are okay to use but others are just awful names used to fuel stereotypes. They're not "cool or trendy" to use. I hope he takes some time to really watch what he's saying and look into himself, especially cause he has had such a big audience. Sadly, going back to saying things like these after saying empty apologies are easy. I feel the emotion behind this though so I'm praying he grows as a person. If he's determined to change, it will happen. It takes a lot of growth and effort. Just like he said, it could have definitely been a wake up call. Just sad it had to hurt someone so close to him to realize that.
I hope he changes and reflects on this. I wanna support him and see him grow, but what he did stepped over the lines. I think he is sorry about it, esp Jamie being his close friend that he hurt, but it's not our apolagy to accept and actions speak louder than words
@@this4ppiplup he’s still a human dude. you act like since you’re older, you’re supposed to make no mistakes at all. nothings ever perfect and god forbid you make a mistake in the future as well.
@@JosMars he’s almost 30 years old he’s grown ass man stop defending him. And one of Jamie’s friends said this isn’t the first he has behaved like this so it’s obvious a pattern for him. He doesn’t deserve the death threats that’s awful but their should be no reason why you and the comment above you should be defending a grown ass man who doesn’t even know you exist and he wasn’t even sorry his apology was bullshit stfu.
@@erissonb4643 stop defending him just bc u like him hes a grown adult have these idols brainwashed u to put them before dignity this is so embarrassing
This wouldn't have been a problem if he was just a streamer but since he comes from a mostly conservative industry (no matter how much some artists claim to be bada*s).. this blew way out of proportion. Since Jae hangs out often with the streamer community/culture, he mistook his community as the same. But that wasn't the case. I'm not defending his actions but meh.. this wasn't that much big of a deal.
Jae should know better than anyone that the best way to leave Kpop is to leave gracefully and quietly. All this noise and commotion he is making is not a good look for him in the long run if he ever wanted to come back. He set himself up. I genuinely hope is apology towards Jamie is sincere and he takes a break from socials to collect himself. I think he hasn't recollected himself from the situation with leaving JYPE and now he is spiralling which I do understand and hope he gets the help he needs. But no one should have to suffer from or be subject to the consequences of his own situation. Jamie didn't deserve that.
I just watched the whole stream on Twitch. Basically all the hate comments came from people with zero subs and zero recent streams. In other words, raiders from Twatter. In other other words, underage teens with too much time on their hands and had no reason for coming on other than to harass Jae and feel superior. Everyone else was reasonable. Yes, what he did was fucked. No, that doesn't mean he's cancelled forever. And YES, he did apologize to Jm. Many times already. There are people out there who definitely mean the best for him, and I hope he realizes that. And the most profound and sympathetic comments actually came from seasoned streamers, including Lotje (who is a woman). Imagine that - people accustomed to human interaction and streamer culture, being more reasoned than teeny-bopper randos whose only social interaction is on fanclub forums? In any case, he's already on his way to meet Jm IRL, and hopefully she'll be able to knock some sense into his head if nobody else. Until then, haters can STFU and pipe down forever.
@@erissonb4643 when you hang around different people some people forget that specific friend don't like some words/jokes I mean he should be accountable but on the other hand it's easy to forget or not remember in the heat of the moment
@@duskagony1653 he’s almost 30 years old why are y’all so he’ll bent on defending him he obviously knew what it meant. And knew he shouldn’t have said it Jamie has talked about how she has been sexualized and doesn’t like it he also knew her since she was 14 it’s fucking weird stop defending for being misogynistic
Thing happen he lived for years having to be this family friendly person and on camera but he finally became free. he was allowed to finally be himself but everyone has mistakes. I have had some mistakes as well but calling someone an asshole is also well an asshole move. also telling someone stop making music weather you think you can or not no one can take this kind of hate. so chill out I’m not saying this is ok but this you got to think what he is also going through cause. I also understand and for me it only got out to like 20 people and i felt super bad and regretted it thinking why did i do this. Now imagine millions of people your former fans her fans all attacking you. So I’m saying if you don’t want to forgive him that’s ok but don’t attack him cause he made a mistake let him reflect don’t rub the salt in the wound you make the situation so much worse.
Good he reflected.. really sucked he did this to his friend. I kinda get the feeling he is even trying to get more sympathy looking all sad and unwashed and stuff
Some people especially on twitch is so used to being called a thot or worse that they make jokes offensive to a person they care about and accidentally hurt them because everyone have different levels of offensive words/topic not give an excuse just a side from another community
it is so unfortunate that he had to say that Man is a really great artist, I listened to listened to his music since he is marks friend… but like why Jae… Why!! Argh it is so bad for him… and I dont know I just cant take his side on this. I have always took his side when people posted misleading shit but this was literally what he said no edits… nothing. argh as a woman I am just mad and dissapointed. I hope Jamie is good💔 We as women need to stop allowing our male friends to jokingly call is bitches because sometimes shit ends up like this. Men will always be men, they will get too comfortable saying shit that end up making you look bad.
People have different type of humor. Some people have a lot more of an edgy and dark humor. The only problem is that Jamie didn’t think of it as a joke and he needs to be more careful. But ya, he probably just has more dark and edgy humor which is not excepted by the kpop community
Dude his mental health is not ok, he just left jyp and staryed streaming but he shouldnt have done this, right after jyp he should have gathered his thoughts, work on feeling better and calm. For me what he said to jamie is very worng and it will take time to forgive but thats not for me to decide its for jamie! Jae needs a break, he really does, reflect on what he said, feel better, you can clearly see hes tired!
His chat this stream ain't it bro 😭 "REFLECT" "YOU FUCKED UP" "TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY" as if he doesn't know this shit, let the man speak and support him, he's getting so much hate when he was really just tryna say that Jamie's image is more adult now and that it's weird to him since he sees her as a younger sister, he just worded it poorly and he understands that 😭
But he did fucked up and have to take some responsibility. When he add after his comment that it was because of the way she was dressing up and posing in her pictures he didn't make it any better. He seriously need to stop mentioning other people than himself cause every time he open his mouth about someone else he keep saying disrespectful and dumb stuff.
@@naanoou4836 no bro he's trying to explain himself 😭 idc how it "comes across" that's how he feels. it's weird to see someone you've grown up with, especially when they're your "dongsaeng" in Korean culture, doing mature things and photo shoots like Jamie is. He's a bit weirded out by it bc of his close relationship to her, unfortunately his phrasing made her upset and triggered some fans but he didn't have any bad intentions so i really don't care
Everyone should already know it, right? inside a company they are products we don't know 50 of their true personality, besides they are people like us with thousands of mistakes. only when they become famous they must fulfill an assigned role to be polite, tender and fulfill to the letter a character. that makes me very silly on the part of the companies, since a singer should be transparent from the first day of their debuts. but not the company cares about the good image of what they will say and only create false personalities and nobody says that they are not themselves but not everything we know about them.
What he did was truly disgusting, stupid and fucкed up, I was disappointed but all you can really hope for is change, a sincere apology and for him to understand what he did was wrong. I hope he takes some time and works on himself because he seems...very confused.
Ain’t he too grown to be acting this childish and immature “now that im not in K-pop anymore” he has to learn to shut his mouth to prevent situations before they happened he had no reasons to say what he said
He dumb cuz he's not realizing that every time he says something controversial someone will share it on Twitter. He needs to start treating twitch like it's not a private conversation.
Dude he’s so annoying. No one cares if he’s feeling like he messed up or if he can’t stream. He hurt Jamie, so this is in between him and Jamie. Lowkey playing victim right now Idk if it’s showing but basically I replied to one of the replies which kinda clears up what I meant: no, the fact he brought up himself and is talking about his mental health when the one who he owed an apology to and hurt was Jamie. This stream was completely unnecessary as this is between him and her. Explaining the situation and explaining how he feels and saying he’s doing good is literally borderline guilt tripping because WE don’t need an explanation, Jamie does.
i mean i can def see the problem. the original clip doesn't even sell it for me, it's how he doubles down on it after that makes it bad. i guess he's been more involved with the twitch community and picked up bits of vocab that's usually nonchalantly thrown around. i think a lot of people are psychoanalyzing the shit out of HIM as a human being just cuz he's sporadic tho
