Jagex Will Make Players Rich With Tormented Demon Changes in Oldschool Runescape 

Can't wait for Araxxor to drop a sack of potatoes

We want to be cautious, so here is 180 Fire runes.

lvl 450 with swapping prayers, and almost guaranteed damage taken.... heres a magic shortbow(u)

Jagex doesn't test shit before they release shit.

15:52 what kind of spoiler alert was that? 😂😂😂😂

Drop table was better at elite black knights 😂

Jagex: we want bone claws to be a spec weapon between the 20k dds and the 100m d claws Also jagex: 1/1248 drop rate at 30 kc an hour

I'd like it if they make TD's drop table similar to demonic gorillas or close to it.

9:46 Strong disagree here dude. I've not really seen anyone give more than a very small handful of people give real abuse, just suggesting that staff members who have a history of repeatedly failing to provide the quality expected should perhaps be demoted or removed. This isn't harassment, it's perfectly justifiable. I could count 15 times kieron alone has utterly fucked it. They fired Mod Trick for that shocking slug menace quest where you killed the queen with a fucking pilar. Someone needs to be seen as being punished or taking accountability, not just someone taking the blame on themselves but the actual ones responsible. Why do they make twitter accounts if they don't want players to @them directly in order to get their points accross? Why ban a player for opinions outwith the game, especially opinions that may be unconstructive, may even make them emotional for having their work slaughtered, but if you're going to be a marketed face of the business and use a publically facing twitter, you can't moan when people use the tools you've provided them. Jagex do not have a funcitoning customer service team. these people are the face of customer services for jagex, whether they like it or not. They keep trying to adopt this "team" mentality but honestly accountability needs to be found and specific people need to really be placed on PIPs within jagex. Someone said this on reddit ""You're telling me the WHOLE TEAM looked at Zombie pirates loot tables and was like "yeah that looks good " What the fuck Jagex? Id rather it be one incompetent person than all of you."" The same thing goes for the WGS quest. It's like no one who actually plays the game at a variety of levels within the Q.A. team. Do what you did back in 2008-2012 era. hire maxed players who have massive experience of the game and get them stuck into your q.a. team They repeatedly keep on fucking drop tables, and then have conflicting points about who is to blame when in one instance one mod says x y and z were involved in that process, then you have statements saying the ENTIRE team looked at it. Does no one within Q.A. have a spine anymore? Like back in my day we'd have sent that shit back saying No, Mr Balancer, these drops are bad, and I can provide a justificiable list of reasons it must be changed. Has anyone else listed reasons why they think it's fine beyond "it's fine" ? Pushback was welcomed!

"cautious loot table" that doesnt mean make the mobs worthless, you can just make a decent loot table before release

The ghosts in the part of the quest where you gotta use herblore supplies on the alters would make sense for the tormented demons to drop noted secondaries

torm demons must be from RS3 because its fucking dogshit

armchair iron here, i think there always should be 1 reason outside of uniques to kill any creature. and it just need 1 drop that is decend not even great. for tormented demons that could have been the dragon arrow heads. just make those more common.

Cautious Also adds Fever spiders and Zombie pirates

Nah bro, fire runes and guams is disrespectful.

This is why i love playing ironman mode gold is nothing to me i farmed so much supplies idc how dog shit the loot is atleast im going to get upgrades

The drop table really is atrocious. Right now, I’m straight up losing gp fighting these damn things. Buffing it to like 1m/hr without the uniques seems like a reasonable rate to me.

As an iron there is 0 good supply drops to sustain its just a supply sink and as a main there’s no incentive to go there so the uniques won’t come into the game

We going slowly to rs3 situation where bonds can buy you mid game lategame gear… jagex knows what they doing with inflating economy….

Ok i think. Being a 450 level npc. It should at least keep up eith gargs. That drop 10k coins and rune items.

Yall clearly never done Cerebus

I ran the numbers for the bone claws, as that's the main thing mains are going to go for if they can for the in-between. However. As of today, if you grinded out on droprate tormented demons, it would take roughly 1250 kills. That's 600hp per kill. Meanwhile demonic gorillas are at 210hp. If you grinded out demonics instead of tormented, you'd make roughly (on drop rate with zenytes) 275m in the SAME time it would take to get 1250 tormented demons. which is roughly 3 dragon claws currently. Not only that, the DDS does hit more accurately and harder than the claws. I get being cautious, but this is an extreme drought instead of what was promised. I wouldn't mind every drop being around 5k if to get a set of claws took roughly 10 hours on droprate. Which would be about 1/200, and the synapse to be on par with it. But these rates are absurdity

30-40 hours for a drop that makes an untradeable item seems pretty bad when not getting any good drops until then

Bro is borderline illiterate but love the content!

The real issue for me is that the demon bane take twice as long as a zenyte. Thats just messed up.

Need more shit drop tables, will keep the uniques higher in price

I honestly figured they would have dropped small noted stacks of herbs like 3 ranarr or 3 toad, and more alchs like rune armor and weapons. Honestly figured basically a demonic gorilla table but better.

the problem with something like zombie pirates just BEING in the wilderness making it high risk - isn't really true. you can go to zombie pirates with 100k of gear and risk almost nothing relative to the 3-4m per hour you're making. you may have a point if zombie pirates was in multi and required 1m of GE value risk to enter but it doesn't. at least with wilderness agility course, you get rewarded more the longer you stay, which I think is actually how it should be basically anywhere in pvp areas

Mains just want to own one weapon for each style and be done. Having to have a dozen niche items to hop around content is expensive and taxing, and since mains are basically funneled to raids no other content will appease them unless it is good gp per hour.

I think it makes sense to be semi-caucious due to the monkey snake. But tbh 15k in infernal ashes a trip is BS.

did they make it harder already? or can i be quick about it?

It takes forever to get to the demons. I think its worth noting Jagex wanted to make agility more useful. So how about a crevice that leads to the center of the room. Requiring 80 agility!

Should have just removed claws from raids

How is mm2 grandmaster when you can safespot every boss including the finale

I don't see a problem with the drop table, as long as the unique drops stay expensive and don't crash they are good money, just need to wait for the the drops. We got so many bosses that are consistent good GP, we don't need more.

I was shocked how easy the fight was. I am garabge and died like 50 times during DT2. I brought rag gear and beat these bosses without dying.

You're missing the point man, the unique's are Niche and meant to bridge a gap, we shouldn't have to be there for 40 hours on drop rate to get them.

Ever since Zulrah, people just have an expectation that every new monster will pump endless resources into the economy.

The original TDS drop table was like this. Not every monster needs to be 2.5m gp/hr in alchables.

99% of people are complaining because they didn’t get the drop and I guarantee they’re under rate. However, what the fuck am I going to do with a single Guam leaf from a lvl 450 enemy that’s locked behind a GM quest that practically requires 80 herblore. I don’t mind that it’s a lottery boss but there is no reason there should 30 troll drops on the loot table. You don’t need to give me a ton of loot per kill but at least get rid of the shit that has 0 value even to the most down bad ironmen

We wanted to make sure we didn’t make another vorkath. Here is an unstrung msb

Is there an NPC you can pay to make bow or do I have to go get the fletching level?

whats really the point of taking on multiple at once. like I dont see how that increases ur kph unless you’re bringing multiple aoe switches which I feel like is unlikely to genuinely be faster. So at the end of the day whether or not you’re tanking 3 you have to kill 1 at a time.

I mean even without the drop table, the xp you get is insane

Which mods were getting targeted?

Why not release content made specifically for catching bots. So when the bots migrate to that activity, we can clap them.

Hilarious cope. If they care about the health of the game, they wouldn't put moneymakers better than Vork in the wildy with zero requirements that get mass botted no matter what anyway.

Prayer pot at 1/12 please id be happy with a 2 dose. the uniques are sweet. Dont give a shit about the rest. Just would like the chance of recovering SOME of my prayer pots.

As a max main, it’s not just an iron mindset. I think the table is fine the way it is.

Big agree at 10:40 WGS is not a grandmaster quest, even if they make it a bit harder it's just not enough content (not saying they should've done more or that I didnt enjoy it, just mislabeled).

The one time I do a quest on release .-.

Drop table should be the same as demonics

Why dont things like these just drop GP, lol... like nothing in the game just drops GP... easiest way to balance the drop table...

Swap aggro just happened to me this evening too.. hotfix didn’t do the thing

The next video also is not available to see in the end link

They dropped all gp printers in the wildy behind no reqs, now tbow is 1.7B, imagine farming it playing casualy, imposible!

Are they going to update the bug where 2 tormented demons can attack you at once in a non-multi area?

Yeah make the BRUH a pet like pet rock for our house lol. If a rock can be in the pet house then that you can too

Did while guthix sleeps in gracefull with fang and blowpipe with some sharks and super resto pots... Should be harder 🤔

At least make a slayer cave or something

Probably a hot take, but why not improve the drop table slightly, but also incorporate a mechanic to the demons that work like the DY2 bosses, where if you get a perfect kill, you get either an expanded or improved drop table of rewards.

Im not there to make money but atleast break even, give me some supply drops. Not crap the whole time, could be 25% of vork and is good

Theres nothing wrong with bots, we all dont want to pay 13k for regular dragon bones for 99 prayer

Change the current TD special with a Vorkath Nuke instead.

Making things in the wilderness will still f the economy. I mean someone is getting that loot? Usually pkers farming bots

Dude who asked about iron rng my iron has more boss kills and a higher total than my main. My iron has 1 pet, my main has 17

We want to be cautious, also jagex, hey here's zombie pirates.

Gp seems to be so important to some people and how what there doing isnt paid enough but if you want gp just go learn nex and make 15m/h in small teams

Jagex is cringe as f. If reddit cries enough anything will change now.

I wish they would multiply wilderness drops. So if someone kills a player and I kill them it increases the loot by 25%-50%. Issue with wilderness is pk players avoid pking so much.

So they're gonna add colourblind accessibility options for the new quest but not piece of sh*t Cerb? Epic Jagex moment boys

Tormented demons are bugged. If you die in PvP safe, combat ring, lms, white portal, soul wars, castle wars. Then go die at tormented demons. The last person that you fought in safe PvP will get your loot key. Be ware.

I think they should nerf tf out of the non quest monsters but nit too hard so new accounts can move up. And quest monsters should have better loot specially grandmasters. And for wilderness..... at the beggining they should be shit drops and going up higher in the wild they should increase the money. Like lvl 1 is loke 3k an Jr and lvl 50 plus wild is 7m an hr or so. Locked behind elite diary

Drop table is ass, wish they'd just drop more consumables like ppots and food to extend trips instead of the fire runes and extra ashes. Let us grind it instead of just giving us garbage.

I dont think they drop table needs to be updated. I was also under the impression i was going there for uniques.

Imo pvm should be eat or starve. Skilling is an Important part of the game even if most people just wanna red x boss. Give some small supplies id prefer if it was to keep them there like food n pots. Let the drops be decently rare but expensive. Things like nex you get huge ticket items to make the gp/hr is good. Let the skillers make money the way most people don't wanna do. Let the pvmers get rich thru rare big drops

Not an undead/demonic monkey so shouldn't drop shit obviously

Zombie pirate was better loot than this 😂

Update made me rich 😂 300kc 2 synapses 1 claw

Tormented bracelet would be a cool drop for them.

i dont see the problem with the drop table? why are people crying so badly?

colour blindness = skill issue no doubt

now add rune drops xD

They could seriously rebuff zulrah, lets be honest nex exists and it makes most other content pointless

it is bad for the game, says the dude who probably has a tbow and a's shadow

Speaking of bots did yall see the 50 man 14k kc+ bot farms at zulcano

Common drops are fine the big ticket drops can he more common and make bone claws a single drop. Everyone stfu about the common drops

No pet 👎

How about one new update thats not locked behind ranged-scape kinda getting dumb

I need those fire orbs so fuck it

Bring back suffering like nightmare so you can enjoy when you get a drop “I’m rank 1 nightmare btw.” Suffering makes the rewards so much sweeter

GAGEX SUPPORTS BOTS. simple, the only time bots are enforced when big content creators call it out and it creates to much media attention. It is disappointing a Grandmaster quest has such sh*t drops. but at the same time I don't have a lot of room for drops here in my inventory. I would love to see a teleport added that can send you to the entrance of the skull after the quest.

Is he Kiwi?

Omg, chat being a bunch of lobotomites at the beginning of the vid. Sheesh.

yea these mid level players crying bc they wanna make late game money without having to put in any effort. nahhhhh. dont let the middies get their way

I get that the rest of the drops are complete garbage... But people need to remember that the average loot from one kill of a tormented demon is currently worth more than a kill of Vorkath... It may be a boring ass table, but the value is still there when you add in the uniques.

Ehp nerds crying for their 5m gp / hr or what? Loots fine. We're at tormented demons for uniques

1st actual comment - great vid intro

Rs3 news is too long

I will recreate old school runescape entirely out of lego bricks if the osrs community can help me achieve 1k subscribers 😀 🎉