JAKE AND THE NEVERLAND PIRATES LORE (the Peter Pan sequel that changed everything) 

have you ever heard of Pacman and the Ghostly Adventures

Please do a video about the leapfrog movies and spin-off shows

The ironic thing about the portrayal of the Native Americans in the 1953 film is that’s actually a step above how they were depicted in the original stage play and novelization. In the original story, they were pretty much regarded as dumb savages no different than the rest of the island’s wildlife, whereas in the animated film, they humanized them more (albeit stereotypically). You even have Micheal Darling spouting out some of that Edwardian racist rhetoric that he was likely taught, thinking he could see through their ambush, only to be proven wrong when the tribe catches them completely off guard. Seems like they were trying to subvert the trope. From what I gathered, late animator Marc Davis said in an interview that the staff would’ve tried correcting their mistake had they known at the time that their portrayal of the Natives would’ve aged later on. The studio always strived for making their films as timeless as possible, but it’s kinda impossible to completely escape the zeightgeist of whatever era you’re in. Hindsight is always behind.

You should read the book

@@forrestdupre87 in the book they pretty much confirm that Peter Pan is local mythos that almost everyone knows right?

I think they're even younger than that

maybe 9 or 10?

@@POTC_Oscarandfriens2.0 I think they might be 7 or 8...

let's just settle at "they are young kids"

I always figured Cubby was at least 7 (?) Izzy was like 9 and Jake was 10

No but this was me and making everything about some how playing doctor, house, or kitchen fr

And Smee is also there

But Hook was a theater kid back in high school so he takes his role very seriously or alternatively the Captain Hook character was created by cool teenage next door neighbor, Peter when Hook used to babysit him.

peter is definitely the big brother who goes to college and can only visit sometimes

I wish I could save comments. This is beautiful

We forgetting Tick Tock Croc or as I call her the Clockodile was originally a female?

​@PositivePotatoesClub WAIT REALLY?!

@@anikakitty11 Yep in the original play/novel

@@RealMissCircleFPE that blows my mind

@@RealMissCircleFPEoriginally i thought she was female in everything 😭

It doesn't get any better when they try to update it or remake it and it doesn't get better for Wendy.

@@JackalopeBunny Like that version where Wendy doesn't need a man... or something, so her happy thoughts are dying alone. Thank you, that's _sooo_ much better.

@@Wendy_O._Koopa pretty much yes those versions.. its pretty much what you said. lol

I'm not a girl but uh I can't explain my crush on him lol idk why, I rewatched the movie recently and figured he's such a BRAT! But the JatNP version of him is much more understandable ok he's sweeter

​@@moonofthebloodWhat's the Jatnp version?

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*insert Spongebob quote

And a true pirate *KILLS* for it.

A good pirate never does murder

A good researcher never collects information!

I've got a 6th sense for chocolate. Give it to me. *Now.*

Mood😂😂

@@1th_to_comment. Huh? Nope! No chocolate here haha- *chews faster

Relatable

​@@1th_to_comment. I do too

Still more moral/ethical than Indiana Jones' MO.

Ah the plagiarism method. Perfect for written documents, art, etc

People really ain't getting the joke, are they. I got it. I think you're funny.

Unironically yes. I keep telling people that stealing is when you take something away from someone else. If they still have whatever-it-is, then you didn't steal it. At worst you borrowed it without asking. That's why it is literally IMPOSSIBLE to steal an idea (at least without time travel or a memory-erasing device). You can use someone else's idea for your own benefit, but you can never take away the fact that they came up with it. What you can steal is the CREDIT for an idea, or the opportunity to make a profit off of it.

I love how back in the day, Piracy was viewed as AS BAD if not WORSE than just straight up theft. Like this horrible crime. "You wouldn't download a car", The hell I would. If I lived in a society where having a car is a necessity, not a luxury and I literally cannot go to work without one and the company that makes cars is exploiting this market to charge people predatory prices while reserving ownership of their vehicle even while they're using it, I would 100% download a car.

ok woah this is dark 😭😭

​@malloryshrooms7412 it's an old story. Waht did you expecyt?

That headband is so flattering on her frfr

Thank you so much!! 🥹

İndeed

​@@AthenaPOfficial You rock fam

Really cute outfit fr 👏

Villainy’s cross-generational influence going so hard that the son’s and father’s essences BECOME each others’

Peter Pan goes Wrong got this right. how?

@@mithmoonwalker It's like when(as Quinton Reviews pointed out) porn parodies of Fairly Odd-Parents are still more accurate and better-live-action-translating than the Timmy Turner movie trilogy

@@BinglesPcause anyone dedicated enough to make porn probably actually likes the original media? 😭

@@mithmoonwalkerI love the goes wrong show’s production of Peter Pan! I also didn’t get the symbolism until now either, but that’s probably because I just focused on the coolness of neverland…

Actually in a book called "Peter and the Stargazer" which is a prequel to Peter Pan (It's also a stage performance too) it's confirmed that Hook lost his hand by slamming a chest lid hard on his hand by accident.

​@@colorgachagamer3255so the entire captain hook lost his hand by fighting peter Pan thing is fake?

@@nicoooo69 Yeah.. Hook lost his hand by slamming a chest lid on it as proven in the prequel books.

Agreed. Peter is an asshole.

Honestly makes sense for them both to lie about that. Hook cause its embarrassing and let's people think his hatred for peter is justified. And peter cause im like 90% sure hes mentally a child. Seriously from his attitude to actions to blindness at tinker bell to sexism, i personally see him as a child in an adults body.

( 'o') woah

“I’ve connected the dots.” “You haven’t connected shit-” *“I’ve connected them.”* 😂 No but actually that’s such a fun theory, I like it!

You're mom's connected.

@@henryapplebottom7231 You are mom is connected.

*Oh yeah, it’s all coming together*

Agreed

exclude? are we sure? i love the tinker bell movies but those girls were selfish as hell

@@looseleaflyrawhen? I haven’t watched them in a while.

​@@looseleaflyranot when it matters though, they always come together when someone needs help

The only one of Tink's friends who has any actual sense is Irridesca...she's just a perfectionist, but is otherwise the closest to being a mom.

WE. WERE. ROBBED

So robbed

Source?

If this is true, then that explains the fixation on pirates.

@@somerandomperson4693 From TV Tropes: “The series was originally going to be a Spinoff Babies of Pirates of the Caribbean (yes, really!), but they ditched the idea for a Peter Pan theme instead.”

Okay but hear me out!

She said she is going to make a video on that. But my question is what are fish biscuits? Why do they feed any creature they rescue fish biscuits. And what are those smiling yellow cake looking things growing in their garden?

I’d take an octonauts video over pixie hollow any day and I love pixie hollow.

Coming later this month! Hopefully… she did say it was gonna be a looooong one.

Amen 🙏

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

New religion just dropped?

It's Miller Time!

🙏

29:47 u r 5 seconds off there

​@@Jaceman4390Actually they're 2 minutes off ☝🏻🤓 29:45

@@xxHaruBeepxx Hello. I have some questions that I hope someone answers me: 1) Why was the movie "Home on the Range" (2004) a failure? 2) Was it really a bad movie, or was it just not appreciated as it deserved? 3) Was Disney to blame for the movie doing poorly? 4) If the film had done well at the box office and in critics, do you think it would have been possible for it to have a sequel? 5) What would this hypothetical sequel have been about? 6) What do you think of the movie "Home in the Range" (2004)? Any Answer is Valid. As long as it is related to the question. Greetings from Argentina🇦🇷

There was actually a pirate that specialized in dressing up as allies of their target and pulling weapons out once they were invited on board.

Is that a damn reference to Phineas and Ferb

the fact i immediately understood that

@@kiv3745 same

You just summoned another fandom

So he’s adopted?

Yes. Exactly 💯

@@lilyyoung1002 Oh and I realized that the entire time they were tryin to make jake just *leave his crew* think about it, not just the first time I said, the second time hes given the power to fly, its when he becomes captain, now think about the show for a moment, name one other (RECURRING AND GOOD, so dont say hook or red because hook is evil and red disappeared) captain who has anybody with them in a crew, if you cant think of any, then you can see where I'm going with this, once again, both peter (and I guess the tree since it gave him the sword to find the colossus???) want Jake to abandon his crew (or maybe his worldly desires, if we were to make the avatar comparison) and then for the final one, only HE gets the super power of no-pixie-dust flight and for all we know, if he tried leaving with the power, maybe he wouldve kept it? All im saying is, SHADY AS HELL BRO

​@@thesingingsirenz4714 well remember Peter Pan is also a pixie prankster prince that sometimes plays pirate because he gets bored of being the pixie prankster sometimes. I think Peter as sassy as he is might have been trying to show Jake that being a pixie/fairy is a better course of action in Neverland than being a buckaneer.

@@timepilotcluefinder94 on one hand, that's a very good point, but on the other that doesn't change the fact he actively highlighted the fact Jake had to abandon his friends he's know for... who knows how long? And you can't just say Peter is a lone wolf trying to make jake take that same route either, he has his shadow, tinkerbell, and Jake himself technically if he actually agreed to the flight terms and conditions, so still kind of a rude thing to do

@@thesingingsirenz4714 again, that's part of Peter being a fairy...fairies are notorious for being fickle. It really depends on the day what mood Peter's in about whatever he does.

In Once Upon a Time, being on Neverland didn't directly make them quit aging, it allowed Peter (who had a whole ass kid) to revert to a younger age and stay that way.

​@@vexywexypooAnd that kid was Mr. Gold!

@@mitchfletcher2386rumplestiltskin

@@mitchfletcher2386And Mr. Gold was Rumpelstiltskin and the beast from Beauty and the Beast.

Wait... I distinctly remember their "kiss" being a thimble?

That’s… actually very valid. Would you say JatNP is that kinda show? Chase I remember them saying no

*cause

Like Jake letting Hook throw a fit and then rewarding him for it and even sharing his bday wish with him… at some point it’s time to say no

@@faithgaudi6191 also very true. I didn’t really catch onto this when I was younger, so now that I’m older, this event bothers me, and now I don’t enjoy the show as much anymore, which sucks

I feel like kids media should have the message "it's good to share but if you don't feel comfortable doing so you have the right to say no" hell that could have been a great message for the Hook birthday episode and have it be Jake placing boundaries and later have Hook respect said boundaries

She'd BETTER be dating Terence by now, or so help me God-

@@elsie8757 I feel you. They're adorable

Lol 😂

Marisa Kirisame complex?!

@@BinglesP WOOOOO SOMEONE GOT THE REFRENCE!!!!!

@@JhasmineWisheart WAIT REALLY?! That's awesome!!!

And replace it with some arts and crafts they made that looks identical

Exactly

I could've sworn they crossed over more often but I suppose not

Same. I remember I recorded it on the tv. My aunt made fun of me for doing so for some reason, but I was like 8…….

Same here

Huh like when my dad comes back with the milk

The creator Tee Noir has a pair of Kardashian videos that explains why this phenomenon happened and even goes back in history to talk about the racism behind it all 👍

I guess you can thank Sir Mix a Lot lol

*Fat Bottom Girls plays at increasing volume as it gets closer*

​@@katelynna10000 Fat Bottom Girls got so popular due to it being outside of the beauty standards at the time. Men who liked big butts were looked at weirdly.

​@@CraftyVegan dude thats awesome thank you for sharing this. i mean not the racism. but the history is interesting, and i think learning about the past as much as possible is the way to make sure history isnt repeated

That plot is so good lol

That's a crackfic I would totally read

Tho they would have to put Sofia In 2D

​@@Nope-gk3yr They could also have Jake & Co. in 3D, but that might look wrong...

Sofia wouldn't be fighting over Jake though...she already has Hugo.

BRO SAME 😭😭

Same

same oh my God! Also I freaking loved the "What makes a hero" song so much even though baby me had no idea what half of the words are

Not a true fan if they didn’t.

It wasn’t just me?! 😭 I was literally bawling my eyes out when I saw that episode

cheezus dude. i thought it was just some fairy shit, why did it get deep

He also culls the lost boys when they start to get too old

@@kiv3745 Yeah that's just what the book is like, it's really sad.

@@KenikoB Yeah, it literally says that he "thins them out" it's like lord of the flies.

@@kiv3745 I mean, the whole book's like that. Why is Neverland a bunch of random unconnected 'Adventure Storybook' stuff? Because it's what kids like to make believe when they play pretend, and Neverland is where 'playing pretend' takes place. Peter is such an ass because he's like the concept of a child, come to life, unable to be anything but the concept of a child--he can't be anything other than a wild brat who only does what he wants and thinks violence is funny, he can't learn or grow because that would mean he's growing up and that's the opposite of 'being a child.' People die and come back to life because it's all make believe, except they really die and really come back to life. People get forgotten and it's the same as if they never existed. It all functions on kid logic ("pew pew, you're dead!" "no I'm not, I've got secret live-forever powers!") except that's really creepy if you actually think about it.

Don't question it. Sharky and Bones probably have canon-altering powers at this point.

The bag is actually a bit more like the brain of a teenager when exams are coming up. Our cramming abilities are powerful and not to be underestimated.

2 is so correct

2. because his entire crew is very camp 3 its very compact and it looks visually like just a tiny finger pinch when thrown into the air it sparkles a lot making it look like you just threw a huge handful idk

SO TRUE

So when it’s up Disney can’t do Jackshit. They can just fuckin renew it.

@@fritzy8318@fritzy8318 At least in the UK. In the US, it is a different story.

i remember the picture of the quote from the book went viral years ago. that's what people are remembering

@@bluntfishtrauma I know. She mentioned that in the video lmao.

I think there was a commercial with them standing next to a sign that said that maybe

Potter Puppet Pals AND Niga Higa? Next we're playing the duck song and doing a cute win fail, right?

If I remember correctly, the general rules for Pirates were: A captain doesn’t make any serious decisions without first asking for the crews vote Everyone is paid what they have earned(the captain WOULD get a higher amount but only by a small amount) No Racism No women(usually) No staying up too late(unless you had night shift) No gambling(on ship) No stealing(on ship) No heavy drinking(on ship) Bathe when you can(mostly optional)

@@MatthewTeachout-xj4yyPirate ships were democracies while out of combat. The captain took charge when they went after a ship because it made taking the loot easier with 1 person in charge. The navigator tended to have more influence over what they did because he had the skills to get them where the good plunder was.

@@nobodyimportant2470 thanks for the info

I’d love to cover more Peter Pan but I just figured since this is a Disney show I’d get the context I need through how Disney built up the world. Had no idea that they would have Easter eggs to things not within their own animated canon! Hahaha excited to cover tinkerbell and pixie hollows stand alone movies and I’ll try to go even deeper with those! Thanks for the comment!

@@AthenaPOfficial No prob. ^_^ It's also kind of interesting that you drew a number of conclusions about things that are almost directly spelled out in the book. Like how not growing up means no emotional growth? Yeah, that's a pretty big part of Peter in the book. He never learns and never grows emotionally, because that would mean growing up on some level, and that's what Peter absolutely refuses to do. There's this entire bit in the book where Hook tricks Peter with a pretty obvious ploy/lie, and Peter falls for it because he's a little kid and it doesn't even OCCUR to him that Hook wouldn't play fair. The narrative steps in to say that this isn't the first time he's been tricked like that and won't be the last time, because he always forgets it afterwards. Remembering would mean learning from his mistakes and growing up, and so he just DOESN'T. It actually goes further; in the original story Peter actually kills Hook at the end. When he visits Wendy in London a year later, he doesn't even remember who Captain Hook is and is actually completely callous about it: "I forget them as soon as I kill them." Again, remembering and living with having killed someone would mean growing up on some level, so Peter just forgets in order to never grow up. Even more tragically, Tinker Bell is implied to have died as well, and Peter doesn't remember her either. The original Peter Pan is really a very tragic character, but Disney toned him down a LOT. (Disney also made the decision to have Hook survive because Walt correctly surmised that the audience would finds him entertaining and not want to see him die.) Finally, it's revealed in the book that Neverland doesn't actually stop you from growing up; it IS possible to grow up there... it's briefly mentioned that if a Lost Boy starts growing up, Peter will either kill or banish him. The details aren't really revealed until in the sequel "Peter Pan in Scarlet" (written by Geraldine McCaughrean for the Great Ormond Street Hospital to make sure they kept the copyright). Here it's explained clearly: You CAN avoid growing up in Neverland, but ONLY by utterly refusing to even entertain the idea. If a Lost Boy ever starts speculating about what he might become when he grows up... he WILL start growing up. If this is canon to Disney's Peter Pan might be dubious, but it WOULD explain how Hook could be born in Neverland and be an adult. (The book's Hook very blatantly did not come from Neverland; he's implied to have been a British nobleman who turned to piracy, but Disney's Hook is clearly a different beast.) I ramble on. Sorry. ^_^*

A GOOD pirate, doesn't steal. From the living, anyway.

They probably meant good as in morally good

A good pirate doesn't steal... but a great pirate does :)

I need a Jake and the Neverland Pirates X One Piece crossover now. Please…

Did you think there's a fanfic on AO3​@@Dr.Soda1

I swear to god the “AND ME!!!” part was in the theme song, but I can't find it anywhere 😭

Lowkey i think luffy would turn these kids toward violence like these kids would just beat capt hook after hanging out with luffy

Jake:And pirates doesnt steal other people proprety *Luffy looks at his crew* Luffy:SEEEEE?!! I TOLD YOU GUYS!!!

I wonder if the neverland-borns age in the normal earth?

Neverland's rules are "you only age if you want to" otherwise you don't. It's very much "Imagination Island".

Yes yes yessssss

Ask her please 🙏 😊

Ooh, not a bad idea!

i actually discovered poker face from BUBBLE GUPPIES

I really want her to this show was my childhood I watched it realigiously until I was 12

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If buying isn't owning then pirating isn't stealing

Prosperity stolen MWAHHAAHAHAHAHAHA

And To create Red Jessica, the creators of JATNP were inspired by Shakira, right? I say this, because now I've realized that Red Jessica looks like Shakira... But with red hair.

oh that reminds me I want Tinkerbell Pixie hollow lore video

oh I remenber that episode. That was crazy

This episode used to live rent free in my brain! I was unsure if it even existed, but I was so fascinated by it, I think it was my favorite episode. I’d forgotten the whole plot of it, I just remembered it was the one were Jake was scared and it was a big deal.

And moreso,Sofia's voice actor also voices Marina. And Jake and Marina have been heavily implied to be interested in each other. You should check out this comment in the upper section about a crossover with the plot being about how Marina and Sofia fighting over Jake's affections,and there's a very crackfic ending to it

They should've had Sofia visiting using her mermaid powers

It's IN the tree itself! Except in the books' continuity, where there isn't a well/fountain at all and pixie dust is made by grinding the molted feathers of a magical dove into a fine powder.

It’s from the original 1904 play…

And she gave him a “thimble” which was a kiss. Was hoping someone else remembered and commented!

@@DrFranklynAnderson sorry I didn’t watch the original play! :| I was commenting from what I knew because they didn’t know where it was from. It’s great to know it’s from the original play.

​@@DrFranklynAnderson wow! You saw the original 1904 play?! How was it?

@@LtrlChcknTndrI can’t believe after all these years, I realized Wendy switched the words kiss and thimble

I want cyberchase or fetch with Ruff Ruffman lore

@@khaliyahjefferson832 Cyberchase lore would be fun...

Ooh, that's actually a good idea.....

Yes! Very good idea!

I forgot about doc mcstuffins she was an icon

Yeah, the book explicitly states that the Darlings are trying to keep up appearances even though they don't even have enough money to hire a proper maid and have to use a dog instead.

Anyone who was born in 1985 or earlier (would be 10 years old in 1995, which is about when therapy became a thing in the USA) would have no actual psychiatric care. So it would make sense for the dad and well, everyone. No wonder so many rock stars were so depressed. They were born against the norm of being a complacent little worker bee and had no outlet besides music and drugs. In 1991 the Ugly Law was finally nullified and it was made a law that mentally ill people could seek care in an open and non oppressive facility like asylums. They finally realized people could be helped and be happy instead of locking them in an asylum and taking all their human rights away the second the person says theyre sad.

*Constellation

@@m.a.a.7463 I was wonder if I spelt it right or not, thanks man

Ya wouldn't get it, unless you have a high enough Pirate IQ.

@@sedeuphadude80 or a dear whose willing to be sweet enough to help someone.