I live in Hong Kong, so Idk where I can watch these races but these videos really help me keep in touch with whats going on. Can’t wait for the sprints
@@waterwong12 sure it is. Being 3 seconds faster than ever in that one race than falling back to his original level. Sorry mate I don't belive in Santa Claus
I watched the race on CBC (Canada). After the race Jakob had hugs and lots of kind words for Hocker and Kessler. These guys know they push each other to greatness.
Jakob is the greatest mid distance runner of this generation. Haters act like you can reasonably expect someone to win and set records at every race. Like bro can’t even get sick or have an off day without the haters talking trash. Then they don’t give credit when it’s due, going completely silent when he dominated the 5000m. I believe the 5000m was his target race this year anyways considering he’s said that some day he’d like to win gold and set records at every distance up to the marathon. Wouldn’t be surprised if he takes home the 10000m gold in 2028.
Человек у которого больше поражений чем побед на глобальных турнирах не может быть величайшим бегуном на средние дистанции. Даже несмотря на карбоновые шиповки, дающие прирост в результатах минимум 1 процент , Якобу не удается побить мировой рекорд на 1500м и милю С учётом карбонового эффекта результаты Якоба в обычных шиповках были бы 328.8 и 345.9 Вот на 5000м он действительно велик. Поскольку когда он в порядке у соперников нет вариантов при которых они могут его обыграть. На 1500м темп Якоба очень трудно выдержать и на коммерческих турнирах они его отпускают, но на ЧМ и ОИ вцепляются в него мертвой хваткой и обыгрывают , поскольку на 1500м у него нет сильного финиша
@@ЭдгарГольцовJacob will take the world record on 1500m in due time. He is the best 1500m runner of his generation. Three runners have beaten him in the world championship and the olympics, but globally he has dominated. No losses in 1500m in diamond league for many years.
@@nickwilsonxc I’m not a hater. He worries too much about the Diamond league in an Olympic year. He needed that gas he expended in Monaco trying to break the WR. It’s not hating to say he’s exposed in the 1500 without pace lights and rabbits. If the 1500 wasn’t important to him why try to set a WR so close to Olympics? Why so much trash talk going into 1500? You talk about silence after 5000. The “metric mile” is a marquee event in track like the 1”00 meter dash is, they always have been. It goes back to guys like Bannister and Jesse Owens. 5000 is not at that level. I was super excited 13 minute barrier fell it was not a global sensation like 4 minute mile barrier. The “mile “ metric or imperial is iconic. Now suddenly you claim Olympic 1500 wasn’t important because…well Jakob didn’t win it.
@@patricklemire9278Spot on. You need to win major 1500 metre titles to become a great 1500 metre runner. Too many of Jakob's 'fans' seem so desperate to overlook his failures in major championships over 1500 metres. They almost sound like they are trying a bit too hard to convince themselves that his losses are insignificant in comparison to his performances in races against the clock, or when the pressure is off in single one off races.
Firs of all thanks for your videos and the channel ! As a Morrocan I always watch these races thinking how they would beat Hicham's record and I know from watching a 1500 with him that he cheers for the guys to beat it, being genuinely curious on how it could be achieved ! He broke down on French TV during the games what could have been done to beat it. I love the spirit of the long distance running : even in rivalries, trashtalk, a huge amount of respect and knowledge of the craft.
I don't want to hurt your feelings or offend you and Hichem's WR will stay there until if Jakob beats it but Hichem was likely doping. No one can conclusively say anything and his WR cannot be removed. But if you've followed track and field enough and know the 1990's and the early 2000's were the EPO era (EPO was virtually not even tested until the early 2000's) and how he switched to the 5000m after EPO testing become more commonplace and advanced among several other facts, it's very suspicious. He ran so many fast times in very short periods of time with such little recovery that it's absurd. EPO testing was introduced at the Sydney Olympics in 2000 and even in 2002 it was found to only be about 50% effective. But then again the same thing applies to many in that era like Morcelli, Daniel Komen etc. At the end of the day, these guys still trained like freaks and performed brilliantly, it's just that the doping helped enable it by better recovery etc. It's just how the sport is I guess, although it seems to be better now.
El G run 2:26.xx in 2003, he never switched to 5000m, he run only like 3 races in 5000, one of them was when he got his legendary doubles gold in 1500/5000 beating no one but bekele and kipchoge, hicham is the king of 1500 and will always be, you cannot accept him running 3:26 saying he was dopping and at the same time you find those european an american guys running super fast timings normal, and you are very naive if think that those guys are clean, they are taking the most beautifull drugs that hicham couldn't have
@@esa3di I do consider him the king of the 1500m despite all I'm saying cause at the end of the day he's never been conclusively found guilty and plenty of others also have a lot of suspicion around them. What I am saying thought is that EPO was literally not even tested then in what today is known to be the EPO era. And look at how many times he went sub 3:27 compared to anyone else even today. Every other athlete to break 3:27 has only done it once with the exception of him even Kiprop who was found to be doping. And I'm not saying the current field is 100% clean and spotless by any stretch of the imagination and I don't have any problem saying plenty of Western athletes were and are likely doping even today. The BALCO scandal, Salazar and many others are enough to show the West is also very dirty as well. But testing is at least existent today for EPO and other stimulants (I do know loopholes always exist) vs an era where it literally was not even tested. And Jakob started running with his brothers as a very young kid, with systematic and progressive training and more than a decade after has done sub 3:27 once. I can't and honestly don't even need to say more beyond this. If you stick to thinking Hicham was clean, please by all means do.
@@alansamuel2454 it s not correct to say that he did not tested for EPO, he was still runing till 2004, and got consistently tested and found clean, and yet he run 3:26:xx 3 times after 2000, and few other 3:27, what i can confirm about him, is that he have the best runing form ever, his lighter in weight with very long strides and biger thighs, he is geneticaly superior and more gifted than Jakob and to tell that Jakob started to run as a young kid is spotless because El G too started running at a very young age like most o other athletes, no mater waht you say there is always a double standards regarding natoinalies of atlethes, because no one can say anything about Jonathan Edwards super jump from 90s for exemple.
@@esa3di Like I said there's nothing more to be discussed on this topic. I did concede there is bias towards other nationalities and even pointed to cases of Western scandals to indicate the same. It doesn't change the fact that certain athletes are more suspect than others especially El Guerrouj. But by all means insinuate I'm racist if that makes you feel somewhat better.
Ingebrigtsen has now won ten 1500 meters in the Diamond League in a row unbeaten at 1500 meters in the Diamond League since Zurich September 2021 beaten by Timothy Cheruiyot.
Single one off Diamond League races are not multiple round high pressure championship races. It is here that Jakob's weakness lies over 1500 metres. The 5,000 is his distance. He is world number one here no doubt.
@@neilmcguinness4422 why are you guys so desperate to knock Jakob down. This guy is running often and faster than everyone else. Making excuses for his diamond league success is weird considering ALL athletes in those race are running under the same conditions, they are being paced and the fastest guy wins. 1 Gold medal at 1500 will never be more impressive than what's Jakob has accomplished.
Jakob haters are insufferable bro, so many trolls that don't even watch the sport but want to shit on one of the greatest prospects the 1500 has ever seen
Happy to see jakob sprinting form, all the time i said that if he learn to sprint he can be the best- just look how he held his back and how he kick the ground! Beautiful improvement
Beatiful improvement?You clearly hasn't seen many of Jacob's races,he usually has a great kickif he is about 100%.The kick you saw in the zOlympic was when he opened way to fast snd in the end met the wall,and got out of gas and did not had any kick at all,he nearly stopped,he usually has at least equal kick as the other three,if not greater.
@@alpha7440 Lausanne Diamond League page defaults to French, he didn't switch it to English, just has browser auto translation. Bel in French is masculine form for beautiful so it got translated
What an absolute thrashing! Ingebrigtsen about 15 metres clear of Hocker. It simply proves to me that Ingebrigtsen would have won the Olympic 1500M title had he stepped off the gas in the first lap, doing it in around 56 seconds then cranked up the pace from there, with each lap progressively faster. He would then have run sub 3:27 and the others would have been left floundering in his wake. Coe and El Guerrouj - two of history's greatest middle distance runners in my book with better finishing kicks - made similar simple mistakes in the heat of battle at the Olympics. Hocker gave the excuse that he was recovering from the post-Olympics “blues” and his hard efforts there. What about Ingebrigtsen? He also ran a heat and final of the 5000M in Paris where he toyed with his rivals. (Let’s be honest - Ingebrigtsen’s clearly a better 3000M, 5000M and later a 10000M runner than a 1500M runner, where his raw leg speed is inferior to Hocker and probably Kerr and a few others). If he remains healthy and uninjured I would not be surprised to see him run sub-3:26 for 1500M (far from easy), sub-7:20 for 3000M (a foregone conclusion given his superb 2 mile world record), sub-12:30 for 5000M, and sub-26:00 for 10000M. That would make him the greatest distance runner (middle or long) of all time in my opinion. The 3000M Silesia race in a few days should be a cracker. Given decent weather conditions, his full recovery and good pacing I have no doubt he’ll take at least 1.5 seconds (and up to 3 seconds) off Komen’s very good world record.
Always I experience irrational happiness when I see Hicham El Guerrouj 1998 world record in best track lists, still today the fastest of the history. He was the runner of my childhood 🥰
@@nielsliljedahlchristensen4924 Oups, and I saw him setting it one year BEFORE I was born 😂😂 Sorry, I copied directly the date from the list at the video, thanks for the correction! I changed the date on my comment
Я испытываю аналогичные чувства, просто потому что Эль Герруж был идеальным бегуном на 1500м. Его техника бега была совершенной, особенно на последних 300м на чемпионате мира 99
@@MyCommentsAreFictionalhonestly this comment is so incorrect. You realize he is still only like 23 right? He has more than enough time to train and go sub 3:26
@@christianjohnson3112 Hicham El Guerrouj set his world record at age 24, so he doesn't have *that* much time if history is anything to go by. That being said, training regimes and equipment allows for better recovery now than in 98, so I have no doubt he can improve even in the shorter distance for several seasons.
I luv Cole, but that olypic win was because Jacab decided to be the rabbit, and forgot he was in the race. :-O I don't think Cole will be any faster than what he did at the Olympics -- I think that will be his fastest pace he'll ever see. I know, I expect some kick back. Jacob, on the other hand, I think he'll eventually beat the world record, maybe within the year.
They talk about all these other runners, who are surely great runners in their right. But Jakob is generational, and has a reasonable chance of going down as the greatest middle and long distance runner, ever.
@@soccergalsaraOr he is away preparing for Zürich not only by training and resting,but by taking some illegal substances now,substances which will be away when tested after the race .Jacob are racing all the time,because he love competing,and he always deliver worldclass performances.I'm always suspictious when people are staying away from competing,its two weeks after the Olympic,its more tha time to have rested and be back in shape,so why be away from meeting Jacob and Hocker,Jacob will compete at the 3000 m in Silesia Sunday,then he will compete in Zürich and the weekend after that,one ore two races,at the champions league finals.
Many studies claim that nowadays the Moroccan would probably run 3'24"-3'24,5" and that the Norwegian in 1998 would have run 3'27,5"-3'28". As we know track and field is not arithmetic, but looking at the average results of the 1500 m competitors one cannot avoid noting that they have decreased of a couple of seconds.
Jakob has been pretty clear about his goals. He wants to be the greatest runner of all time. He is aiming for world records - and has identified 10 he wants to beat. After his 3000m record he still has 7 to go. I think he definitely cares about the big championships too, but he seems even more interested in these records. Being the all time best is a bigger thing than winning a certain race. If Ingebrigtsen can (at some point) become the 1500 meter record holder, I don't necessarily think that would stop him from wanting to beat the other guys at the next olympics. But at the same time, it might be expected that he then might shift his focus a little bit to reach his bigger goal - the get the remaining 6 world records he wants - all the way up to the marathon. It's a bit like Sifan Hassan's project, just with (possibly) even bigger ambitions.
I do not understand why so many commenters cannot bring themselves to express a positive opinion about one runner without also denigrating one or more other runners. I am also struggling with times recorded in so many events. It seems like the new shoes are lowering times by at least 0.1 seconds per 100 meters and more likely by 0.2 seconds per 100 meters. Still, thus far, the existing world record for 800 meters is now 12 years old, and has come down only 0.20 seconds since 1997, whereas the world record for 1500 meters was set in 1998. This might not devalue new world records, while noting the current world records for 800 to meters, predate the new shoes.
Ok, good shoes, but where are your evidence for so much? And you totally forgot about the powerful "nutrition" they used in 'old' days. No shoes can compensate those vitamins!
@@osgubben There are studies that show significant improvement in running efficiency with the new shoe technology. I have seen nothing to contradict that, although the extent of benefit seems to vary; something in the neighborhood of 1% for middle distance races seems to be consensus. That would turn a 3:30 into ~3:28 and a 1:43 into ~1:42. By “vitamins” you of course mean PED. Although always possible the current records of 3:26.00 and 1:40.91 are chemically enhanced, you need to cite evidence beyond your belief, hope, or desire. So far as I am aware, such evidence does not exist.
The other runners a,way are getting Jakobs pacing after the pacers are finished. In the Olympic he admitted going in his own trap because his legs felt better than expexted, and he understood the big mistake at once he had the time on the first lap, the plan was a bit slower start in the Olympic, for a progressive finish, but after that first lap he knew the progressive running would be difficult, alone in front you cannot do any wrong pacing to succeed. I think, if Nuguse and Jakob agreed to cooperate in the pacing the two of them would battle for gold and silver, because they both benefit of the same race program.
USA had MULTIPLE middle-distance athletes smash their Alltime World Rankings in 1 run at the Olympics: Kenneth Rooks 3000m SC - 195 > 49 Yared Neguse 21 > 9 Hocker 72 > 7 Hoppel 800m 97 > 7 I'm 100% suss on what NASA-shizzle was in their pre-workout drinks.
"This is how it will be. You may gang up on me and get me when the world is watching. But when I am watching you and you are watching me all you will see is my ass.". Big Jake
The Atlas moroccan lion Hicham el gourouj sill the king of 1500m with him her légendaire record 3.26 without high running technologie used to day by sportif like jacob and Kerr
Well, don't read too much into this. The first race after winning the 1500m gold medal is always going to be tough, and you can bet that in the aftermath for his gold medal performance, Cole celebrated quite a bit and took his eye off the ball. Things will be different next time...and with a stronger field.
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE CALLED HATERS WHEN THEY JUST CORRECT WRONG INFO ABOUT THIS RUNNER. FIRST OF ALL HE IS NOT THE SECOND FASTEST IN THE 1500M, HE IS #4 BEHIND EL GUERROUJ, LAGAT AND KIPROP. AND HIS TIME IS THE #6 OF ALL TIMES BEHIND 3:26, 3:26:12, 3:26:34, 3:26:45, 3:26:69 AND FINALLY HIS: 3:26:73. EL GUERROUJ WAS 24 WHNE HE SET UP THAT RECORD AND MONTHS LATER RUN ANOTHER RECORD 3:26:34 JUST CORRECT INFORMATION NO HATE.
Impressive by Jakob but he needs to get that winning mode back for the 1500m at a major championship, three times missing out on gold since Tokyo is not great for someone who claims to be the best!!!
Hicham el Guerrouj was the same way. He had trouble winning at the big championships but he’s as the wr so ig it’s a little different but. Both similar situations.
I suspect Hobbs Kessler tried to do too much at the Olympics, doing both the 800m and 1500m, for my money he's the American middle distance runner with the most potential.
I have to say that Hobbs Kessler has became my favorite men's middle distance runner. He was so fun to watch at the Olympics, this kid has an outstanding bright future ahead. 👏
... and with that you just told that any 1500m runner is (most of the time) worse than "pace me or i forgot how to run" ... Jakob has been the pacer for everyone else in most of his races through the last years ... and that all the way to the finish line. Still they (most of the time) is not there ...
@cyoul8trallygatr549 he's undoubtedly one of the best in the world. But he's also a pretentious dickhead. So forgive me for throwing a lil jab at the guy. Good thing he's got all you white knights to fight for his honor.
Never bet against Jacob in a individual paced event..not the same dominant force in championship racing in the 1500m..look forward to when he decides to double up 5000m and 10000m on the track
@@blackbelt2000 The BIG question is why Hocker and Kerr and that Wainwright or whatever are not able to challenge Ingebrigtsen in Diamond league. Overachieving in WC and Olympics, and running mediocre rest of the year, if they run at all, is kinda suspicious. I am glad that Spanish guy is out anyway..
Once you get Olympic gold, diamond league meets probably don’t garner the same amount of motivation. Also Jakob probably felt he had something to prove. Not very surprising result
@@danielbreedloveI don’t think motivation was the factor that made hocker lose. Jakob is simply in another level than everyone in that field especially when there are pacers.
