Im Jamaican and grew up in NYC and I had a good amount of Irish friends. I always marveled when I heard them talk because the way they enunciate their words are keenly similar to how Jamaicans speak.
When I was in Cork Ireland, I was so surprised to hear the older people of Cork sounded just like Jamaicans! I though they were putting it on, but they were older people talking naturally so were not trying to put on the accent.
I'm from Cork originally, yes we sing baby, we sing. The accent is wildly different depending on where in cork u are. But we all understand each other. See, since the Brits took our language, we had to speak in such a way that nobody knew the what fuk we were talking about 😉 sound familiar.
@@audreyroche9490 why would they? They had war with the English that lasted 800 years, Ireland was desperately poor always until the 1980's. The weather is crap. U can't exactly jump on a plane for a quick visit home.
@@blackieblackmetal7218 That particular sign is almost certainly fake. There definitely were signs saying “no coloureds” before the introduction of the race discrimination laws of the 1960s. They have been well documented and recorded. But the “No blacks no dogs no Irish” sign only appeared in the 1980s. It was mocked up by Irish activists for an event at an Irish festival in 1980s London. The Irish activists succeeded in creating one of the most successful urban legends of all time.
@@davidpryle3935 Mate. I'm American. "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish" signs were also common in the American Northeast after the American Revolutionary War as most of the established colonists were still English and disliked the Irish alongside all other non-English groups of people present at the time. It didn't stop in the UK my friend.
@@blackieblackmetal7218 Yes, I’m familiar with the “No Irish need apply” signs from 19th century America. But the idea that there were “No blacks no dogs no Irish” signs in the remote American north west in the late 1700s is a joke, and shows just how far this made up nonsense by Irish activists in 1980s London has got out of hand.
@@bostonmike5981 I’m not English, but I know a fake when I see it, and I don’t like to see people blaggarded for something that’s fake. One of the reasons we know this sign is fake is it’s use of the American term “blacks”. I’m not saying there weren’t discriminatory signs like “no coloureds”, but English people would not have used the term “blacks”.
26% of Caribbean people have Irish ancestry…. The first wave of Irish immigrants occurred in the early 17th century, Irish emigrant principally sailors, servants, and merchants. Many of the poorer emigrants were displaced Gaelic-Irish and Anglo-Irish Catholics, as well as convicts who were indentured servants.
@@rasempress9724 Irie Irie the Jamaican greeting is a Celtic Goddess, and Celtic greeting, there is a link, but this video stops short of the rest of the story which is the original Irish were Dark skinned, some called them the black celts. Black Europeans were kicked off by papal decree. There are whole towns in Ireland and the UK named after black people.. Most Irish were taken to Barbados by Cromwell they were called the Red Legs (Rihanna,s parents) thanks for your time 😁 Bless Uuup
I'm from Ireland and my surname is McNamara. So excited to discover that I have Jamaican heritage. .Thank you so much. Can't wait to visit Jamaica and meet my relatives!
Makes a lot of sense. My mother is Jamaican and I grew up in Canada and I have many Jamaican relatives. I never had a problem understanding my friends’ Irish parents. Now I see why.
@@taharka3897This entire video gives off a conspiratorial vibe, even though it might not be intended that way. I've heard about this 2:39 , but I'm uncertain if there's any credible evidence supporting it. Even if it were credible, how many descendants of these victims are there?
I'm Irish and I remember as a kid myself and Dad were watching TV. A Jamaican person was speaking and I was confused. I asked my Dad if she was Irish. These was just something I was picking up in her accent.
As a Jamaican man searching for identity in my early twenties,. I thought I was purely African, until I sat with my Jamaican grandmother who started telling me stories about her Irish grandmother. I suddenly realised that my genetic makeup was more than I was thought to believe.
I’m 29yo and half jamaican and i’m just learning about this. I never connected the accents sounding similar until now, now I can’t unhear it my mind is blown
I lived in Cork between 2016 to 2018, attended University College Cork (UCC). What amazing country and people!!! I loved every bit, including every daily raindrop!😍 Thank you for sharing!!!!
Stop this BS. We have no similarities besides how we say certain words. This is insulting to Jamaicans. Did the Irish help us gain independence from Great Britain? We are Descendants of African Slaves, and I'm sure those with Irish descent probably would belong to a higher social class. Also Irish last names are slave names. This is so insulting.
Irie Irie the Jamaican greeting is a Celtic Goddess, unfortunately there is a link, but this video stops short of the rest of the story which is the original Irish were Dark skinned, some called them the black celts. Black Europeans were kicked off by papal decree. There are whole towns in Ireland and the UK named after black people.. Some Irish were taken to Barbados by Cromwell they were called the Red Legs (Rihanna,s parents) thanks for your time 😁 Bless uup
In my experience I found that in certain parts of Jamaica the African and Irish ancestry is strong other parts of the island African ,British and Scottish ancestry is strong. Also German. The surname Chin indicates Chinese mixed ancestry not forgetting the indigenous Arawak Indians and African mix .I guess that’s where the Jamaican Coat of Arms motto explains this mix of ancestry “ Out of Many One People ”. My own personal ancestry according to my family members are The Congo , Ghana , Cuba, Scotland Syria and Jewish. 😂😂🇯🇲. I love the Irish accent.☘️ Love the video❤
A part of this we don’t talk about is the native Caribs. The Irish who arrived in Montserrat from neighbouring st kitts and Virginia were under constant threat of attacks from the natives in the early day of the colony up until the early 1690s
Love the comments here. History might have beat us down. But the future is full of love and hope for all Trans-Atlantic cousins ❤️ 🇯🇲 ❤️ 🇮🇪 ❤️ 2 coolest nations in the world
My family have our Irish surname and we still have the grave of the original Irish ancestor in our church cemetery and his sibling moved to Portland parish. Trelawny and Portland parish are the only place on the island where people have that surname. So anyone with our surnames are direct descendants of the brothers that came to Jamaica.
I’m born in Jamaica have family in Ireland under the name Wellington interesting always love Irish movies and will find myself breaking into an Irish accent out of nowhere. Very interesting video.
A French Canada friend introduced me to an Irish writer 🎉named Marve Binchy. The characters in her books behaved just like Jamaicans . (I'm Jamaican living in Toronto)Thanks for the history lesson.🎉❤😊
I am Irish by virtue of my mother’s birth and I am Irish in my heart through osmosis. I also have been very psychically connected to Jamaica. I was drawn there and spent about a year there, and had some very powers experiences while living there. As long as 55 years ago, back in the day when we were smoking cow horn bongs outside in the dark of night, I felt there was a strong similarity and connection between the two countries, small islands at opposite ends of the North Atlantic, both with strong connections to higher planes of existence and both with strong, defiant citizens.
After the Jacobite rebellion, Oliver Cromwell shipped alot of the Black Irish off to the Caribbean islands, to work on the plantations. Sean, check out the video of the Montserrat Irish. They are brown skinned, with reddish brownish hair.
Book called Irish Emmigration 17th and 18th centuries Thomas Addis Emmet written 1899 Explains the term black Irish. Also “Whence the black Irish of Jamaica” By Joseph J Williams sj
They were not black Irish. We didn't have any black Irish then. Black Irish refers to white Irish people with black hair and dark brown/black eyes but pale skin. Most of us have lighter hair and blue eyes.
@@nickolas6664 that doesn't make them black. Colin Farrell would have been called black Irish. As in dark, swarthy. This is Americans trying to change history. I'm Irish, I have lived in Ireland all my life, I said in a previous comment we didn't see black people until the 1970's. Phil Lynnott, famous half black Irish musician. His mother white Irish, father black, living in UK. Not Irish. People my age remember seeing their first black person in Ireland because it was so rare. They were usually medical students, nurses or nuns from Africa. We remember the first half black family (Irish mother, black UK father) moving into the area. I live in Dublin, I know what I'm talking about. There were NO native black Irish back then.
There is a strong link between the Irish and Jamaican, and some info is right. However the information about children is incorrect. Marcus Garvey has no Irish ancestry. Bob Marley has no Irish ancestry either, he is half English. Irish were not slaves.... Please watch the 2.20 hrs documentary we made about the Irish and Jamaicans on my channel, where I interviewed the irish hiatorian and many other people, including Irish in Jamaica and Jamaicans in Ireland. Our film is called "Ireland and Jamaica, Documentary" Out of Many, One People.
Unfortunately your video is less accurate then this video.. The Irish where taken to Barbados as slaves both black and white Irish were taken as prisoners of war by Oliver Cromwell.. The white irish slaves were called the Red Legs.. watch ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Tv--0FhkeFE.htmlsi=Fa-W70WRZo_rGLnb
@@dancarrington8678 never heard of white Irish being slaves but black Irish were slaves and some of them were taken to Jamaica and Montserrat (black Irish slaves) . The black people of Montserrat still celebrate st Patrick day to this day. You can't listen to every RU-vidr, some of them don't know what they are talking about.
@@dancarrington8678 I don't think you actually watched my video, because i DO talk about the Irish who were taken as prisoners of war by Oliver Cromwell. There were no black Irish though and the Irish were never treated in the same way as black people. It's a hoax developed much much later by various contemporary authors. How do I know? Well, I actually read the original records from the 17th century in the British Archive. If you want to see some online, here is the document that quotes all the records from the 17th-18th century on the topic: www.jstor.org/stable/2937974 You can also look at the original records in the British Archive. If you want to prove that Irish were black and used as slaves, please provide the link to the original 17th century documents. By the way, yes, there were black people in Europe in the 17th century, but they were not Irish, they were either Africans who came via Spain or enslaved Africans who were brought to Ireland by the British.
@@sweetsoursop1129Your absolutely RIGHT ❤ Unfortunately the histroy telling is a bit racist and denies dark skinned contributions to Europe, it always starts with black slavery and never admits to dark skin black Kings in power in Europe or places named after black people in ireland and the uk and that there is such a thing as indigenous dark skin Europeans and lastly, this narrow histroy telling never admits to white slavery.. They were also taken to the new world as slaves prisoners of war mainly. This white washing of history is because of the renaissance. If u want to learn more here is a 5 min video about the red legs of Barbados the irish government has admitted they exist and has allowed visa free travel for Barbadians to visit ireland and re connect. Bless ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u8AePRqnWaM.htmlsi=gbi53l_L3wiuKvwL
I didn't learn this until I became an adult. Coming from a biracial family and growing up with friends of different races, we lived like brothers and sisters and still communicate to this day. It was very sad to see that it wasn't the same when I moved to Europe, where society seemed more divided. This division appears to be spreading to other countries as well.
Great lesson. Thank you for enlightening me. I would recommend if you could lower the music just a little b/c it was hard to hear your voice at certain points in the video. Once again great lesson, love the visuals. Could you do one on the Chinese explorers who migrated and now live in Jamaica 🇯🇲?
@@maryjs4878patois is actually broken English .. it’s literally English… Africans speak different languages French, broken French, sample, Arab .. patois is literally broken English … in simple words slang in a way
@@annacherish5734 Which patois are you calling broken English? What I know, is that Jamaican Patwah/Jamaican Creole isn't a broken English, it's a language, that is mixed With African languages, European languages and Taino languages.
The people of the Jamaica/Barbados are the original inhabitants of the Ireland/Scotland kicked out by Oliver Cromwell in the 16h century. The British told us we were going to the West Indies, The West Indies was actually Virgina/Carolina US, Barbados and Jamaica next, West Indies is actually the name of Virgina/Carolinas . After the Jacobite Rebellion we were sent to the islands as indentured servants, to work with the Natives.
What do you mean original? Please dont try steal our history. Our gaelic celtic people have been around for thousands of years. Mixed with norsemen, vikings after the scandanavians pillaged and invaded our shores a 1000 years ago. Many of us now have norse and viking and celtic geneology. More recently a lot more immigration. I love Jamaica and its people with all my heart but please dont try twist our history. We have suffered a lot and its amazing our close ties. We should celebrate this. Go raibh maith agat.❤
Dna shows black carribean are of west and central africa decended from these fantastic powerfull ethnic groups(the same people you see in mma and boxing
If there is any similarity in how we speak is because the Irish was generally the foreman on the plantation and beaten into us their dialect and beat out of us our African dialect
Exactly other the British owners were absent leaving the Irish overseers to manage the Plantations, some of them got Rich enough to open thier own plantations that's why we have surnames like o'connor, o'gilvie
wouldn’t say beat into you the irish dialect and beat out of you the African dialect. The africans slaves obviously took a blend of the british, Irish and and their own way of speaking english. after all, Africa didn’t have its own english dialect as english is not an african language.
@@anfieldreds_1892 , literally tortured it into us. On the plantation, concentration camps, African languages were illegal for Africans to speak. Some ppl are always trying to romanticize how African Ppl, who had nothing to do with europeans, came to speak european languages, came to practice christianity etc.,
At that time the Irish didn't even speak English. The idea of a cohort of Irish foremen thrashing Irish pronuncating into African slaves is ridiculous. Any similarity between Irish and Jamican is just coincidence
@@thurmanmerman2720 Didn't the British conquer Ireland in the 12 century. Way before they even came to the West Indies what language were the Irish speaking during that time
My whole family is from Jamaica, my last name “Mullings” is supposedly Irish, always wonder what the connection was but this makes sense. Great job on the video topic bro
I think this thing clearly overstates the influence of the Irish in Jamaica. Many oversimplifications and falsehoods were stated. The Irish were never slaves in Jamaica. They came under some form of servitude but were not slaves a were the Africans. African males never impregnated Irish women as the thing suggested. it was the White males who impregnated African women. The presence of Irish surnames in Jamaica suggest as imposition of general British names on African enslaved people. It was the common practice of enslavers to give their surnames to the enslaved Africans as a sign of ownership in a similar way women take on their husbands names. Africans with Irish surnames does not mean Irish ancestry, but rather African being enslaved by the Irish. African surnames were discouraged and that accounts for their absence in Jamaica today/. The Irish too were enslavers of Africans. Many Irish who came to Jamaica in the early years died of diseases, ran away and joined pirates or migrated to North America. Their numbers were always small and even after slavery ended the Irish were recruited to Jamaica to help whiten the population. They along with Germans. This failed as many left and the number of African Jamaicans increased. They failed to get enough to substantially alter the racial composition of the population which continues to present day. While it is true there are many Irish influences in Jamaica including many places which have names from Ireland including a place called Irish Town, but they are all seen as white, colonial, British influences and impositions
Correct 150percent ! Truth should be clear .as what's being said .ay be misleading.i thought so too..th Irish men where made to mate with African women and not the other way round .also it's not even as fair as its made to sound.also thy were never slaves as Africans were .
There is also a little village up in the mountain called Ruthven above the Appleton Sugar factory in St Elizabeth near another village called Aberdeen. That had a high percentage of light skinned blue eyed people with the most common surnames of Thompson, McTaggart and Mundy. I thought they were Scottish descendants, but they could have been Irish.
Right. I'm sitting here like when?!🤨 All indentured people had a choice of whether or not to come, freedom that was never allowed to African slaves & were paid. Using the term slave here is extremely misleading.
@@Moneystayswithme Do you think they had any choice in the matter. They couldn't read or write and didn't understand English! Irish was their language for the most part. Any signed agreement was a dog leaf.
I'm the son of immigrant parents from Barbados and Antigua. I know there is some Irish on the Bajan side, but I know my Antiguan family history deeper. My great great grandmother was forced to leave Ireland at 15 with her husband, sister, and infant child. Her husband was killed on the ship, and her and her sister were dropped off in Antigua. My family in England did DNA testing and met that side of the family. My parents immigrated to the USA. I am black American via Ireland......
@jackjonas1699 you see when your stuck in pain that's generation's before your birth and have no interest in learning about history. Fcuk that why did you watch this, I watched because I asked my uncle and he told me about where my blood line came from and that was from his father my grandfather and it was just shocking to know that it was true and my father side of the family is also mix with white blood idk where it came from I'll know n I can teach my sons about my family history. P s if there are brown skin people in your family one of your great grandmother's or both got 🍇 or fcuk by a white man or men what your gonna do about that seat and cry you poor little bby. Grow the fk up.
I am Jamaican and everyone in my family has (North and South) African genes for sure, its visually obvious however, both my grandfather and great grandfather on my mom's side were Irish, living in Jamaica. And my husband's grandmother was also the descendant of two Scots living in Jamaica. My family on my dad's side include Jews and East Asians (Chinese and Malaysians) My family looks so racially ambiguous, we look like a United Colors of Bennetton ad. but even more blended. And we grew up very Catholic. Derry Girls school scenes are so nostalgic to me.
If you visit South East St. Elizabeth and some small towns of the parish - there are huge remanence or massive sample size of people of European ancestry with blue eyes and the hue...
Irish Chinese and Indian or any other white person was never chatter slaves in Jamaica. They served in servitude hence they were able to maintain their name, culture and religion. Don’t mix the two together.🇯🇲
Sorry, but they were not allowed to keep their religion or their culture. Relax, we are not looking for reparations, so don't worry, we won't take from the pot. We, as a people, are looking to the future and building ourselves up on our own two feet. Thank you.
Good effort. Others have pointed out some anomalies. Maybe youbcan add some text comments to the video. However, I just wanted to point out I found the background music a bit too loud and a bit of a distraction - not sure if you can edit that lower but it really took away from the content. Well done getting it all out there though 👍🏾
I am of Irish decent and been to Ireland Many times and grew up in South London.years I ago I was told by someone at a wedding in Ireland the Irish are the Jamaicans of Europe with their laid back attitude and friendly culture 😂
Lovely video. There was a lot of black people who where born and grew in Ireland as well. It has been found that there was and is a large population of black people. So I would say that both Irish and Black people shared their ways of living. But there are many similar things between the two group. Thank you for the video
My parents are Jamaican, I've always thought the way Jamaicans talk sounds similar to the way Irish talk, I've always had friends that who's parents are from Ireland or Scotland
My parents are Jamaican and I do hear slight similarities in the accent, but there's Scottish influence too. The Jamaican flag was designed from the Scottish flag, with the colors of the Asanti tribe in Ghana where lots of the slaves came from. 🏴🇯🇲 Isn't the Mac or Mc last name Scottish? Anyways, this video was interesting, thanks for sharing.
That is St Andrew’s cross on the flag, patron saint of Scotland, Mac and Mc are Gaelic meaning son or grandson and are used in both countries along with the newer prefix O. The Romans referred to the Irish as Scotti, this Irish tribe conquered the Picts of Alba hence the name Scotland.
My family is Clare has links to Ireland by way of Richard de Clare (Strong Bow). We say tree not three like the Irish. We have a Irish Town and potatoes are called Irish in Jamaica. Island nations both are very green.
Ok, so you’re conflating having irish last names with having “ancestry”. I get it for Bob Marley. He had a white parent. I’ve heard this said before about Marcus Garvey and I never understand why because both of his parents were Black People. Now, if you’re talking about the result of women being violated during slavery, I don’t know any Black Person from anywhere who goes around bragging about the ancestry of an enslaver who forced himself on an enslaved woman or girl-child. And none of us think of ourselves as “irish” because our African names were erased and irish names were forced on us during slavery either. Similarities in how Jamaican english sounds? Another product of genocide. Whoever you learned english from, there has to be some similarity in sound. That’s just common sense, but this is all a product of genocide, not any kind of notion of “cultural exchange” or “cultural melting pot” or anything to be celebrated. The english language is a scar on our tongues. The last names are like the serial numbers tattooed on jewish people in auschwitz during the holocaust.
@@ahfimiwonawun “the English language is a scar on our tongues.”…lol…but , obviously , not on ur writing, given ur flowing response….sigh….a discussion on our Island’s linguistic history is just that…a discussion….btw, black women r STILL BEING VIOLATED…this time, BLACK MEN R THE CULPRITS…do u think that their being English speakers is the causation…
you missed the point. what you said may be true but more than one thing can be true. example some of the way Jamaicans speak and inflect their words are like the Irish
@@anfieldreds_1892, everything I said is true. And as I said, there has to be similarities in how someone speaks with whoever they learn a language from. It’s common sense. How do you learn a language and sound COMPLETELY different from who you learned it from, especially in a situation where your first/ original language is destroyed? In a normal situation, ppl who speak another language who then, of their own free will, learn another language will sound similar to whoever they learned it from, while retaining certain effects on the new second language from their first. It’s amazing that in our case, we don’t sound COMPLETELY irish. But, as I said, that isn’t something we celebrate for more reasons than just one. At least not the mentally well among us. May as well make a video entitled “why are christians and Jamaicans so similar”. You’d literally get the same answer.
Wow. Just an observation, Never saw this amount of acceptance from Jamaican to the most obvious similarities which they have / the African one. Although - I apologise on behalf of many Jamaicans who proudly embrace their African root. But I am rather surprised and I wonder if we change the title of the video to “Why Jamaican are soo similar to African” I wonder if the comment will be the same.
@@user-bw1bj8vt8h I would be a waste of human kind, if my sole purpose in life was to create controversy. I made an observation, a fair observation indeed. I did not force anyone to engage in an opposing opinion. It might require some confidence and reasoning to address this. It feels like when one talk about racism to white people. It becomes a rather uncomfortable subject.
My reasoning is more personal than anything else, I look at the clover as being a symbol of positivity, rarety and luck. Positivity because that's me in a nut shell, rarety because as humans we are extremely unique and different from all other humans and luck because I am a very lucky person. ✌️🇯🇲
Janey Mac!!! I didn't expect a response and would never have expected such a profound response. I often see four leafed clovers on Irish related images and I think "Pfft!! Americans 🙄!!!" (as in USA people or graphic artists) who don't know the difference between 🍀 and ☘️. Thank you for showing me an alternative view (but I don't think I'll change 😂☘️🇮🇪☘️)
I found out the same thing with Guyana and I have Jamaican German family members I found out I got Irish ancestry in me from my Guyanese side all of South America is full of European ancestry from all over
2:24 Judging from the green white and orange tartan pattern of that lady's skirt, I'm pretty sure that's a picture from Montserrat, aka the Emerald Isle of the Caribbean. The Harp of Erin is on their flag, and Saint Patrick's Day is a big deal there.
What would Kamala Harris’ dad Donald Harris be considered? He is said to to have Indian , Irish and african ancestry. We hear people say he’s Jamaican but Jamaican is nationality. Just curious what his Race & Ethnicity is?
Africans with irish or english names does not mean irish ancestry Rather African being enslaved by irish indireclty through the english people.not as simple and nice as sounds at all.facts.lets put truth out there .
Interesting. I didn’t know this info about Irish people sent to Jamaica. I have been trying to trace my own family story, and my great grandma’s family (Connell) were from Barbados. They had ties to other places: Trinidad, Guyana, Antigua, Granada, and Venezuela. Not a fan of the lie that Irish people were slaves the same as Africans. They were indentured servants and had more rights than African slaves. This is a common misnomer that white Americans like to claim. I believe that through DNA testing and old plantation records, this can be debunked.
I am from Clonmel in County Tipperary in 1650 Oliver the Bolloxs Cromwell tried to take the Town. It was the siege of Clonmel it was the only battle and the biggest loss of life on his side with between 1500 to 2500 Troops. He did take the town and I think he took some prisoners and sent them to Jamaica as there is a Clonmel in Jamaica Clonmel (Irish: Cluain Meala, meaning 'honey meadow') is the county town and largest settlement of County Tipperary, Ireland. The town is noted in Irish history for its resistance to the Cromwellian army which sacked the towns of Drogheda and Wexford. With the exception of the townland of Suir Island, most of the borough is situated in the civil parish of "St Mary's" which is part of the ancient barony of Iffa and Offa East. That is why there is Clonmel in Jamaica.
The most popular surname in Jamaica is Williamson, well according to my 2012 edition of the Jamaican Yellow Pages! (All I did was count the pages that contained that name.) Its could also mean that the Williamsons make up a large part of Jamaica's middle classes, since one had to be reasonably well off to own a fixed line phone and have a permanent address in Jamaica.
You are not going to like the truth. The truth is that Ireland/the UK used to be Blk and was ruled by King James who was also BIk. Most of our ancestors were brought to Jamaica and other Caribbean islands by Cromwell. Modern day Irish are from the Caucasus mountains through Northern Spain.
@@kuyahkudey3217 What’s your sources for this information. I would like to read them. Just give me the names of the Books/ studies and their authors names, and the names of the universities they lecture at. Thanks in advance.
