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This short clip comprises the main point of James Burke's excellent series- the day the universe changed.
Against a backdrop of a buddhist monastary, high in the himalayas, James Burke envisions a utopic future. Stopping just short of presaging the singularity, communities like digg and /. are quite obviously foretold.
I'm quite surprised that this hasn't been heavily sampled for electronic music.

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@sl1oo 10 лет назад

Wow. Burke, he is a treasure.

@greatwhite44u69 2 года назад

Goosebumps when I was 14 years old and first saw this, Goosebumps now every time I hear it as an adult. I have been so lucky to have lived and understood the birth of global telecommunications, digitized human knowledge and decentralization. What a time to be alive. Humanity has so much potential and we can't let the bastards win.

@Ingens_Scherz 17 лет назад

Gosh! This takes me back. I used to get home from school and watch this show - just after Laurel and Hardy and just before supper. Then came Blake's 7, I think, (I can't be sure - it was such a vast amount of time ago, at least in terms of the scale of one, insignificant human lifetime!). James Burke always sparked mine and my younger siblings' imagination. Thanks for posting, DJsinkid.

@sum6557 2 года назад

hey its been 14 years..how is life?

@epenmedi 16 лет назад

This series was on before the internet... It seem that Burke is predicting that everyone could give their subjected view and hear all others by using technology... like on youtube! I miss James Burke... thanks for sharing this vid

@kiritanJ 10 лет назад

A jewel. A precious piece of guidance from the era when guidance was possible.

@jessekent2262 9 лет назад

Well, it happened, and governments and businesses have spent the last decade or more trying to kill it. And now it's subverted to enhance conformity. From shadowbans on reddit to google's own ad-revenue maximizing technique of tailoring search results to individuals, people online are being directed into little easily categorized boxes where they get what they want and won't cause trouble. But of course, people would probably have done it to themselves anyway given enough time.

@RaviPatel-mu6qz 5 лет назад

All those platforms are controlled by some central authority. There are restrictions. Main reason for that is money and banks which are controlled by central authority. But a new money is taking berth which is Bitcoin outside the control of any group of people. With Bitcoin, countries and States could become a thing of past. W

@MyYTaccountName 3 года назад

Marxism and Globalism are destroying it all.

@Uarehere 2 года назад

And here we are with a totalitarian cancel culture fueled by the Internet. Of course they can't stop all of us from communicating with each other no the matter how hard they try. So that is the positive anarchy Burke alluded to: freethinkers able to share perspectives regardless of the powers that be smearing it all as mis/dis/malinformation. How will this tension be resolved? I think I will bookmark this comment and come back every year to check on its progress.

@Jcolinsol 13 лет назад

James Burke is the bees knees.

@brightphoebesays 12 лет назад

Awesome. James Burke is awesome. Loved the series, love this clip. Holy!

@rodneyj42 17 лет назад

wow, I always loved Burke. He was on PBS in the late 80s quite a bit and I saw them all repeatedly. The unfortunate thing was I was as Idealistic as he was back then about comuter networking. However, what he assumes is that everybody using those networks will be equally educated (and want to be). What we have now is closer to Mike Judge's "Idiocracy" than to Burke's vision of "Balanced Anarchy." Anarchy is earned, and we haven't earned even this little bit of it we already have.

@welshpete12 4 года назад

The best thing that ever went out on British TV was this series !

@damonpeacock 10 лет назад

I like to see this as the 'Sermon on the Mount' for the internet generation. The counter argument came with the destruction of the Twin Towers.

@JCisJD 6 лет назад

The counter argument , what that we should know what actually happened, like a modern day pearl harbour or that the possibility that such an event was carried out by folk hidding in caves ?

@Jcolinsol 14 лет назад

Equilibrium, the result of many forces interacting. The basis of all structure.

@kokopelli314 14 лет назад

And that is why I love this series! truth is local.

@GoblinXXX 15 лет назад

It's good to know you're around and still posting Burke's stuff, even if it's not here- I used to have the first CONNECTIONS and DAY THE UNIVERSE CHANGED playlisted from you on my channel, and it was some of the content I was proudest to have.

@GreyJedi73 2 года назад

Wow. This aged to be pretty close to the mark, I think. I remember him as a kid but had no idea who or what he was talking about back then. What an interesting man to look into.

@kagasan2008 14 лет назад

It's the mavericks that often bring progress. Not always, but often.

@rolynstone48 14 лет назад

Beliefs are our most cherished errors !

@crawlinginfilm9683 3 года назад

Burke’s is one point of view... (that I agree with) ...but not everyone’s. Ego is master of many.

@rampantandroid 17 лет назад

I was lucky enough to see him speak at Moravian College in PA last fall, I very much enjoyed it.

@Owleyes888 15 лет назад

I have kept several of his vids on separate accounts -the archives on spiritual matters are great, this one is rather interesting,thanks for sending this to me

@jimparsons6803 3 года назад

Always profound.

@Drchainsaw77 3 года назад

Burke's series are better than 90% of everything taught in high school history and science classes.

@macsnafu 12 лет назад

I rechecked my copy of Burke's book, The Day The Universe Changed, to make sure of this point. Burke's "balanced anarchy" isn't a reference to political anarchy, but intellectual anarchy, a balance between the elite, specialist scientists, and laymen on the nature and structure of knowledge. Nonetheless, while I agree that knowledge should be more accessible, I still disagee with his egalitarian impulse. Not all knowledge or sources of truth are equally valid.

@JCisJD 6 лет назад

Ah would you say that aplies to the knowledge that is supposed to keep us safe ... Should we know the truth about an event like pearl harbour for example?

@ladyattis Год назад

It would called epistemological anarchism.

@macsnafu Год назад

@@JCisJD My apologies. This is an old comment, and I must have missed when you made your comment. I don't think Pear Harbor is a good example for what Burke was talking about. To answer your question, of course we should know the truth about Pearl Harbor, even if it puts FDR in a bad light, or perhaps especially if it puts FDR in a bad light. But I believe that Burke was trying to say that life in a primitive Tibetan village without electricity, plumbing, etc., is as justified and valid a way to live as living in a modern urban city. And while there is no way to quantify how one feels about living in such different societies, it is arguable that the quality of life between such societies is quite different. More importantly, I think there is a vast *inequality* between the idea of making a sacrifice when the moon "disappears," for example, and realizing that a new moon is a regular natural astronomical event, and sacrifices aren't necessary. They are not intellectually equal or valid ideas, but I think Burke was trying to say that they were.

@dswright71 15 лет назад

Intelligent and articulate comment, hooray! I agree with all you said except your contention that control and repression are "unnatural". It is our animal territoriality that is behind most repression, that and the desire to control comes from our animal desire for "alpha" status. i believe humans only become enlightened when they control the animal within and not vice versa. Contact me if you wanna discuss this further.

@danfalls3858 5 лет назад

I think he's right about the open access to knowledge. While political discourse is horrible, we do have a lot of easy access now to learning new skills from RU-vid or courses online. I think the potential was there for an exchange of political ideas, but I think Facebook is a terrible format for having any kind of real discussion.

@DJsunkid 17 лет назад

I suppose I will leave these comments up, not because I think they are relavent to my video, but because I approve of more intelligent comments on RU-vid. Please try to stay on subject though, or I will start to delete comments, which pains me, as these seem to be fairly well thought out.

@honeyandgold 11 лет назад

James Burke for God!

@ElucidateProductions 10 лет назад

Basically. Lets all get behind it. Rule Thyself.

@rumpraisin 16 лет назад

You can ponder such things when you've got a full stomach.

@Gaius8666a 13 лет назад

Great documentary. I also recommend Kenneth Clark's "Civilization". It is on youtube as well.

@soccom8341576 15 лет назад

Great speech. But the love of power still stands. And people do need certainty. True, everyone should ideally have things done their own way. But that is impossible in our world. It is a mess no intellectual can solve, because that is not the mindset we have. It is too complex, you're better off letting it go. You cannot find a perfect system, because people are not perfect and never will be.

@Jcolinsol 13 лет назад

@DJsunkid "I find it hard to accept a worldview that says that we need to depend on murderers to follow a kind of moral code that we have dreamt up." I know that, as an Anarchist, that is exactly how I feel about people's belief in the necessity of the police.

@rumpraisin 16 лет назад

Because once you've got what you want, what is there left to want?Where do you go from there? You usually end up wanting more, you need another fix.

@dzarna 17 лет назад

hail burke!

@chuckkottke 15 лет назад

The universe is too much for our total comprehension, so we simplify with models. Patterns that seem to fit based on evidence; with models, newer ideas often occur in individuals,& then a broader picture emerges. To move ahead requires greater equity in all societies,& between peoples,& the inertia to change may be overcome through an opening of dialog & awareness. Against this - those who wish to control & repress - which cannot last, as it is an unnatural state to put individuals into.

@Buddhist2k 15 лет назад

If Carl Sagan were still alive,and if He and James Burke should have had a love child... that child would have been the most awesome scientist! Maybe if we can take thier DNA and DNA from Michio Kaku and Alex Philipenko... and combined it with Burke and Sagan... SUPER BEING! anyway... James Burke rules!

@shepardthinks 14 лет назад

Voluntaryism is a long way away... hundreds of years ... but it will be better than today's world. (Not utopia, but better)

@artemiasalina1860 5 лет назад

You might want to update this prediction 8 years later. ;-) With the invention of blockchain tech and keeping Moore's Law in mind, voluntaryism may be much closer than we think. e.g. New Hampshire legislators saying that taxation is theft: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cGO7m8O83ZQ.html This would not have been possible without the ability to spread information as easily as we can. I'm increasingly optimistic.

@Mtaalas 12 лет назад

@UKSazzy67 The problem is, that there's going to be stuff that is objectively true and objectively false and your preferred world view doesn't change those things. So to everyone in the comments saying that "every belief system is equal" I say: no it's not. Since atoms are there, will you believe in them or not and the earth goes around the sun did you belief in it or not. It's more like we have an open forum to discuss these hypotheses and those that are correct are preserved and strengthen.

@mootytootyfrooty 5 месяцев назад

"I'm quite surprised that this hasn't been heavily sampled for electronic music." fucking lol

@macsnafu 12 лет назад

And yet, how is giving some people the legal authority to initiate force supposed to help in stopping evil people? It seems to me that all government is doing is creating more evil, not stopping evil.

@chase_h.01 8 лет назад

He is completely right, yet at the same time balancing multiple views of the world means thinking hypocritically or getting nowhere.

@teddybetts3254 Год назад

I wonder what Burke would've thought if he knew back then this would lead to Twitter, Facebook, 4Chan, 8Chan, Reddit, Tumbler and so forth.

@shovelcharge 16 лет назад

mindless religion IS NOT equal to reason, logic, science, and rational philosophy. Thanks Jimmy B.

@myroseaccount 15 лет назад

This is why he is no longer welcome on most mainstream TV channels!

@rdangelo 17 лет назад

He's explaining nicely the way global warming skeptics are currently being ridiculed and shunned in academia and in the liberal elite.

@SavageArms357 2 года назад

I wonder if you're still skeptical of global warming, 14 years later.

@chuckkottke 15 лет назад

One way of seeing things at a time? Perhaps this is a result of forming a cultural standard mindset which is comforting in its simplification of a complex world. After all, why are fairy-tales so appealing? New models require a shift in thinking, and often upset the power structures of societies, and this leads to individual frustrations & challenges to an established elite, and that can lead to conflict.

@cty43945 13 лет назад

I watched the whole video. 1) a system of symbols which acts to 2) establish powerful, pervasive, and long-lasting moods and motivations in men by 3) formulating conceptions of a general order of existence and 4) clothing these conceptions with such an aura of factuality that 5) the moods and motivations seem uniquely realistic” (Geertz 1973d:90). Our society in a nutshell, and the set of symbols are continuously changing. Same thing Burke said, just different words. Science is a religion.

@LaStrange94 3 года назад

Wow

@redsdisease 16 лет назад

I would argue, as somebody who believes strongly in science, that science does not give us certainty. That's just semantics however.

@GRAHAMAUS 15 лет назад

If he could have looked 25 years into the future and read a sample of typical comments on RU-vid, I expect he would have despaired! Utopia? Don't call me a topia!

@S0up3rD0up3r99 13 лет назад

anarchy isn't without government...anarchy is governing of yourself. And you cannot govern yourself without knowledge.

@fani5000 12 лет назад

Confucius actually also said that you should lead yourself, educate yourself and so on. Interesting stuff

@shawnstone4949 2 года назад

What was the name of this show?? I’m just stumbling onto James Burke.. saw a cool video where he explained rocket fuel, and finished the vid with a actual launch! Cool voice,and straight forward approach. Will look for more

@DJsunkid 2 года назад

It's called The Day The Universe Changed. Definitely worth a viewing

@Peasantabsurd 13 лет назад

I just used this video to sample it :)

@davidwilkie9551 3 года назад

The Uncertainty Principle composed of Condensates of oscillation in the 1-0 probability dominance sequences of empirical e-Pi-i sync-duration laws, made of making resonance states. So Everything is Theory, in Math-Phys-Chem and Geometric phase-shifting metastability, ..not actually Anarchic in Temporal Totality.

@DJsunkid 17 лет назад

is there a clip in particular that you're interested in?

@syedmaricar9946 2 года назад

Around you.

@shhahrukhkhan8262 Год назад

Name of series? And Episode name and number?

@LoboLocoX 13 лет назад

People should not fear their governments, governments should fear their people..

@kooodeal 16 лет назад

You need human contact ,wheather it be online,in person or in your imagination.And yes be very careful, what you wish for.

@DJsunkid 17 лет назад

I quite agree, but I think I missed something. Why is this relavent to this video?

@macsnafu 12 лет назад

I think Burke is confusing some things. Yes, knowledge and values are human artifacts, and values are especially subjective. This does not mean that there is no objective reality. The only thing that really changes is how we perceive that reality, and thus, how we act and react, not reality itself. Knowledge is only as good as it actually describes reality, thus not all knowledge is equally true or valuable.

@markleichsenring69 2 года назад

Ama Dablam in the background I think

@n9bjj871 3 года назад

By the year 2000, when the internet was in its stride, you really could literally change the world... and then they did the twin towers and put a stop to it all.

@dncngferrt 4 года назад

Watch James Burke give a live interview in May 2020: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mUb6Sv-rUv0.html

@ross1972 2 года назад

RU-vid has labelled this as misinformation.

@DJsunkid 13 лет назад

@yonaetc (cont'd) colour is blue and the Golden Rule says to do unto you as I would have you do unto me, does that mean that it is best to give you a blue sweater, because that is what I would have wanted? Obviously, this is a very simple example about a very trivial difference, but unfortunately that trivial difference multiplies up as issues and differences become more and more important. It isn't so easy to reconcile the differences between people as just saying "We are all connected."

@DJsunkid 13 лет назад

@yonaetc (cont'd) makes it very hard for me to take it seriously as a feasible model for human civilization. As long as those evil people can hurt ANYBODY, as long as any person can violate another person, widespread, sustained anarchy on anything but a very small scale is a recipe for disaster and heartbreak.

@gruicix 14 лет назад

science gives us technologial progres

@Mystep 16 лет назад

Everything is relative. This reality, this universe.( This useless comment). It's by being "useless" that you become useful.(and vici versa). Life is useless yet it's there and it's great. ENJOY IT AND WAKE UP by god! Pizza time!

@dasgdasg 16 лет назад

It's already too late, the net is too restricted and codified. Everyone just forms their own little niche. You can be your own thing, but only by excluding those not like you - it's not fundamentally different.

@heeh2 17 лет назад

i feel rather apathetic about my grades.... after watching this video.... i am still overwhelmingly apathetic.... but a little more hopeful as far as the future is concearned you know...aside from the united nations, the new world order and the federal reserve system.....the world doesnt seem to be headed towards many more obstacles that could prevent something like this

@FractalBolt 14 лет назад

They used to air this show on the Discovery Channel, at least in the Latin American version of the channel. Back when the discovery channel was THE Discovery Channel, not the shit they crap these days, god damn it. What happened to the good science and technology shows?

@Concreteowl 12 лет назад

@shovelcharge Mindful religion might be. Science isn't good, it's just there. Reason, Logic and rationalism can all be applied to pretty horrifying ends.Even ethical scientists can make discoveries which can be used to do very nasty things. Buddhism in theory is a all about being mindful but that doesn't stop some people who claim to be Buddhists doing pretty nasty things either. That doesn't invalidate any of them just as Religion doesn't invalidate itself because of some of gits using it.

@dLimboStick 11 лет назад

He was completely ignorant to the idiocracy that was about to engulf mankind, with the internet as the catalyst.

@vunak2000 15 лет назад

hmmm interesting thought...i would agree except i don't think control is the right word...I would say balance intellect with instinct.... our animal side does serve a purpose and if held in check with intellect and vice versa i would think you gain a more balanced view of the world

@cmb271 11 лет назад

example?

@DJsunkid 17 лет назад

Ah, here is the relevent comment- rdangelo claims that burke is describing how global warming critics are being dismissed by the orthodoxy. ... I disagree, quite along the same lines as fileboy. I redact my complaint that the comments were off topic. I also add this- if anything "business as usual" is the orthodoxy, and the global warming critics are but tentacles of this petrochemical hegemony.

@RodCornholio 16 лет назад

Here's Buddhism in a nutshell... The Universe is like a big bowl of Play-Doh with stuff forming and disappearing all the time. Nothing lasts forever, everything is caused by something and thus never truly non-dependent, never really stable...never really "existing". Don't get caught up in anything. Now you're enlightened.

@rodneyj42 15 лет назад

said he as he typed into his computer.... hahaha

@darkchocolate100 12 лет назад

internet as a self atomizing machine

@joshua1auhsoj 12 лет назад

Who is Stefan Molyneux?

@DJsunkid 17 лет назад

Dr. Burke, actually.

@AkulBhatt 15 лет назад

No it's not ironic at all.

@DJsunkid 13 лет назад

@yonaetc (cont'd) "Doing onto others as you would others do onto you". The are both clever re-wordings of the "golden rule" ie: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". The golden rule turns up in all the mjor religions, and is generally considered to be one of the most basic tenants of morality. The problem is that it is tremendously flawed. Say my favourite colour is blue. Your favourite colour might be red. Now suppose I give you a birthday present. Because my favourite

@rumpraisin 16 лет назад

There's one thing worse in life than not getting what you want, and that's getting what you want (except maybe a heart transplant).

@DJsunkid 13 лет назад

@yonaetc Who is this Hilliel? I like the sentiment of what he is saying, but it seems a bit pie-in-the-sky to me. The two biggest problems with anarchy (in my opinion) seem to be specifically denied in that quote (to play the devil's advocate) The first, and I would reckon as biggest problem with anarchy is that most people seem to be very dissagreeable to me, which is to say, they are assholes/douchebags/internet trolls/etc. Not to mention the truely evil in the world, which also exist, the

@KevZen2000 14 лет назад

The only way everybody will be free, is anarchy.Without anarchy, only a few will be free.All the different groups, in an anarcho society, could work together without statist religious nonsense. I think there should be many "nations," not in the statist sense,but in a community scenario where Buddhist could have there own place, and other groups could have there own, and they would have volunteerism, to enable freedom for all,and not a forces BS "social contract" of the statist BS.

@emilblaster 15 лет назад

klidda klidda tybogz tybogz fioni fini fini tyllaz enok hauge

@DJsunkid 13 лет назад

@yonaetc (cont'd) murderers, the war criminals, the rapists, etc. I find it hard to accept a worldview that says that we need to depend on murderers to follow a kind of moral code that we have dreamt up. The second problem I see is more of a technicality, but still needs philosophical attention. I have done some studying of the difficulties with designing AI and the idea of machine coding human morality. In your quote you said: "To be for yourself and all others as yourself" and

@fileboy2002 17 лет назад

You are correct--I do beleive in global warming. But why would I want to? BTW, I also beleive in evolution--sorry:(

@DJsunkid 17 лет назад

Just because his agenda is only to sell novels doesn't make him an unimpeachable, citeable reference. Michael Crichton is a very successful author, and an intelligent person, but he is NOT an authority. He obviously did research for his novel, but there isn't any immediate way to check the sources from which he recieved his information and derived his conclusions.

@theincredibledouche 15 лет назад

Ironic that i'm watching this on the internet

@snarge 16 лет назад

This guy is insane...

@ricsibacsi1956 14 лет назад

Don't be too optimistic,already laws are been made to restrict access/forbid 'non-conforming'sites etc.. The hate speech laws are just the beginning-conformity or punishment yet again.

@vunak2000 15 лет назад

y do you even bother responding....sometimes are blind by choice not by accident lol

@DJsunkid 17 лет назад

With that, I can't help you. Try bittorrent.

@vunak2000 15 лет назад

probally but the microchip helps lol

@RodCornholio 16 лет назад

Look up "deep thinker" in the dictionary and it should read " see: James Burke". He thinks like me, therefore he is cool.

@adamu1978 16 лет назад

What a ridiculous and trite blanket characterization. Wishing companionship should not be equated with "getting pleasure whenever you want it". A pairbond relationship is essential to human psychological development, and if you have been in a long-term relationship, such has been called marriage, you would realize that love transcends sex. There is nothing sinful about wishing to exchange your opinions with another person, nor sharing the same emotionally potent experiences.