As an African, I think the average person living in continents like North America and Europe have such a good life, that they are outraged by the most trivial fact based things, it's comical. Maybe they should come here and struggle the way we do, it might shift their perspective of life a bit.
Justice Muigai Life has gotten way too easy in the Western world. Its certainly good that the quality of life has improved so much that these kind of things are the biggest concerns for people, but people always need to be struggling for something. It will be a rude awakening once these kids get into the real world and they have to work for shit.
All they'd read to do is open a book. It's common for people who have read some of The Gulag Archipelago to then say "holy shit, man. Things could be so so so much worse!" I think this perspective is easy to get if you know where to find it.
You have to remember while these kids think they are the majority they are in fact a very small minority of weirdos who don’t think logically. A very small minority
+ slayerOf DangerNoodle I agree with what you said, but mainly I wanted to thank you for slaying DangerNoodle. We all thought we were doomed. We tore our clothes. There was weeping and gnashing of teeth. We cried to the heavens "Who shall save us from DangerNoodle?!" and lo and behold! slayerof DangerNoodle didth appear!
Dr Shaym well, I'm one third in watching the video but at this point they didn't last very long before leaving. Man, I would have interrupted a little more than half way through. Lol. I'm 39. In my day, we talked at tables at the University hub mall and wondered if the world would be around tomorrow (911). ♥️🙁
to be honest I don't think they really care about being right. I think literally this is a group of sad and lonely people just looking for some group to hang with, and/or ideas to latch onto to vent their resentment at not feeling valuable or useful in the world. They enjoy the camaraderie of ganging up and harassing a group of supposed oppressors. They mostly care about trying to force people they perceive as socially "above" them into socially awkward positions, though any lie or coercion necessary.
True. Each time they resort to such disruptive, anti democratic methods they actually play directly into the hands of ppl they dont like. They show everybody who they truely are and what they do.
As someone who lived in Holland, and Germany. The devaluation of the term "nazi" is really quite tragic. There was a time that word had value, I promise. Especially in countries where it applied truly.
I know it been 4 years later but this needs to be said. I explained to my little brother why calling someone a "nazi" doesnt make sense (he didnt call someone it, I just explained why its wrong). I told him the reason they were called "nazis" is because of most likely where they originated there (they meaning hitlers group, not the people who live there now). I also mentioned how it didnt make sense to use it as an insult because it would be painting people from Nazi, Germany in a horrible light based off of past history. I'm sure many people who live there now probably feel bad because of the history but I'm from the United States and I'm a latino. From my point of view I think if people from Nazi feel bad, they shouldnt feel guilt over the actions that were taken in those times. Its like me feeling guilty over a crime my cousin committed. Either way I hope this helps those who see this and think negtively of those who may live there now.
@@herorricgamer1664"Nazi, Germany" 😅😅😅 Nazi is short for national (in German) it's not some toponym. Sorry for laughing at you, but it's just sooo funny.
/sarcasm We must correct this "injustice" (*) of Female-to-Male nurses ratio! Oh wait, no one gives a fuck about _Stupid Juvenile Whiner_ "issues" ... www.beckershospitalreview.com/human-capital-and-risk/gender-ratio-of-nurses-across-50-states.html (*) You keep using this word "injustice" -- I don't think it means what you think it means.
MrSnowman: Your delusion is in thinking that this is a "problem" in "need" of a "solution." The unique biological and social differences should be celebrated, not homogenized. Men and women, for the most part, like *different* things -- and that is OK. The only ones whining about this "injustice" are those clueless about the biological and social facts.
And builders: apparently they are committing suicide because of 'toxic' masculinity, so, like, they obviously need more women builders. www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2018663999/builders-suicide-highest-number-in-nz
If everyone had microphones, that would negate the utility of having microphones in a place of discussion in the first place. The incipient Greek deliberation of 300 people trying to battle out ideas had the folly of merely which side could shout louder at the final analysis. A microphone is useful in completely negating the mechanism for such ochlocratic degredation.
+SirCouchus A single microphone that another person was holding and that she could only have access to by observing several restrictions... Peter Boghossian, on the other hand, had a personal working mic and the ability to interrupt/"dismiss" people in the audience... (also, he unilaterally decided that the interaction with the audience would be in the form of a Q&A, which is a restrictive dynamic that enables the answering party to set the terms of the whole interaction) Sure, that woman was exactly in the same position as Boghossian and the rest. This wasn't a conversation so much as a monologue with feeble attempts at dialogue which ended at Boghossian's whim in repeated occasions.. Peter Boghossian kept giving his personal political opinions to an audience that hadn't asked for them (the "trojan horse" of inclusion, the "crazy Marxist ideas"... way to have a real honest dialogue, Peter... Belittling antagonistic points of view is exactly how you get people to participate and agree on stuff...) Not to mention the guy could barely articulate his thoughts at some points (pretty much like certain individuals who participated in the Q&A...), he seemed pretty thick to me and it was pretty obvious he has no love for people who don't follow protocol...
everyone has fully "entertained" all of Damore's regurgitated bourgeois propaganda and rejected it as rationally unsound. it has no right to be publicly broadcast because it's harmful and it's *incredibly* stupid, like Damore
@@jhyland87 did you even pass highschool math? didn't you get "correlation does not imply causation" hammered into you? god you dumb fucks point to numbers like they're totems instead of tools. bigots have the least scientific minds of all humans
Truly Heather Heying is great. Smart, intellectual, articulate, kind, and obviously a master teacher. She is a huge loss to the classroom but a huge gain to the public intellectual stage. Thank you for a very interesting panel.
I would love a calm and civil academic examination into these topics where there'd be panelists on many sides of the school of thought. Unfortunately that rarely happens because of Egotism and being too invested to allow dialogue and favoring a monologue instead.
Jenkkimie I mean he invited the whole gender studies department and not one of them showed up. Not one. They all figured it was a sexiest panel and they were already correct, and wouldn't disgrace themselves by talking with 'Nazi's'.
Where'd you get that information, Jenkkimie? His comment was ambiguous. He invited them, but as far as I know, PSU only has an adjunct head for gender studies at the moment. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt the WGSS department heads would be so fickle as to openly and outright decry an open talk like this.
@@infinitivez They absolutely are. I went to another of Boghosian's talks several months after this one. The various studies-studies department heads had actually _filed harassment charges against Peter_ for _inviting them_ to have exactly that conversation. A public invitation to a public discussion was considered a disciplinary offence by the university.
Did you get a chance to hear them both on Joe Rogans podcast? She excels at explaining the complicated in an easy to understand manner. No wonder she was the top professor at her institution.
MrJohnny56789 what are you referencing? I just watched them on Joe Rogan about metoo and I thought they were perfectly reasonable. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4YFe0dFzNfU.html
Mary Vogt Seriously, there is not a single issue discussed here that could be considered controversial, at least from scholars in STEM or (hopefully) social sciences. I know Social Justice people have already begun their attack on websites, scholars/researchers, medical schools, medical journals, etc. that suggest that certain medical conditions are more prevalent among specific racial/ethnic groups-like diabetes and sickle cell disease among Blacks. I am beginning to suspect these Social Justice people are actually Neo Nazis in disguise because what they are proposing that the medical community do (to dissociate these diseases from Blacks and deny that there is a connection) will actually KILL Black people, and not save them.
@@JustMartha07 i mean, Heather Heying here is completely disregarding the existence of intersex people, and people who share sex characteristics of the opposite sex.
Look I think a bit of controversy is always good-but honestly the level of delusion is insanity, men are on average taller than women is an undeniable fact unless you take the anti realist philosophical position, which I doubt the colored hair people even know what that is.
I'm age 61 but when I was a young person I stubbornly denied the differences between men and women. I was so angry and outraged about having been born a female. As I matured I realized that my arguments were firmly planted in the realm of fantasy, and so with much foot stamping and gritting of teeth I admitted to the differences. I found a great freedom from the years of trying to defend a completely ridiculous position. These young ladies will eventually mature and move on from their infancy. They will definitely have to eat crow sooner or later and I hope they will be brave and dignified when they finally step out of childhood and into adulthood.
Russell S No therapy at all in fact. I observed others making the same ridiculous claims and I thought they looked and sounded like bitter 6 year olds so I began a quiet journey from silly to grown up adult. I struggled to get a few immutable facts arranged in my head and went from there. I also had to be able to allow defensive males to have their say and shock the hell out of them when I’d say ‘yup you’re right‘. When that happened we would settle down for a lovely conversation. When I was ready to engage in discourse I would lead with an agreement that males have stronger upper body strength, for example, and the rest would fall into place. I was always making the mistake of arguing for the exception and completely ignoring the reality. I would yell that there are women out there that are bigger and stronger than men and I remember my brother saying to me that ‘yes there are. Somewhere in the Steppes of Russia!’ lolol. That stuck in my head. There are good men in the world and they are not the enemy...that was another revelation. I could go on and on about this but I’ll be kind and stop here:)
thanks for your story Frances, that gives me a little more hope for the future of society when these protestors grow up a bit! I see a lot of people arguing for the exception rather than the rule (and I do try to point out exceptions too when people overly generalise without acknowledging that they're doing so)
@@sassy6292 why stop there... based on some of your anecdotal sharing, you have a lot more to add. Many PEOPLE could well benefit from your reflective journeying, involving inner growth, changed perception, and a realisation of ways the world can be understood, rather than trying to force the world to bow down to personal temperament.
I'm afraid that some hard reset in form of WW, great depression or civil war (considering multiculturalism) is inevitable. People take wealth and cozy western lifestyle for granted, only way they will wake up is when hard reality hits their very lives and when the military boots crush their heads, but then it will be too late for them and evolution will just replace them.
Bade Mantil unfortunately, Bade, I think that isn’t inevitable or necessary according to the times. Millennials like myself-and presumably yourself-find ourselves coming to the conclusion that a hard slap on the ass is what will teach this baby some manners, as our cynical, Darwinism-embracing worldviews cause the swelling of emotion within us that something is amiss. You are entitled to the knowledge that this is primarily the fault of the media. We are not truly a dying society as one might think, sir, but rather a flourishing one under the albeit shaking hand of those who are many and bright who have seen past the pre-apocalyptic wallpaper our rooms have been lined with. I urge you to consider me when I say the reasoning behind the fringe element babblers is a result mostly of that very dread which is required by your heart to make such a statement. Fear, oppressive and damning, is what controls them, and to see it in the flesh would only escalate their potency-and since they have media backing-their influence. Surely, if evil knocks at their door, they must be good. Good as dead, one such as yourself might say, to which they’d reply, yes, but only because you killed by saying so. They aren’t entirely wrong in saying that, either. With every volley of dreadful and gorey insights and expressions, they feel justified in their cause to inspire it. There is only one stopping point, really. When the people wise up to the calm and heavy-handed men and women of the world who knew all along where all this drama and blame would get them. This only happens at one of two points: when people are able to dispel their fears with adequate evidence, or when they’re too tired to continue doing anything else, which, you’re right, would come after the fire of war toasted their tear glands dry. But there is another, more probable way this will go. The media just wants everyone to be on a particular side when a deescalation effort is successful. Unfortunately, though, reason bids us otherwise.
It's the end results of bad parenting. These are the results of pampering and helicopter parenting and all that. They've been trained to get what they want by acting out and being ridiculous and throwing tantrums. That's what gets them recognition and attention and positive reinforcement. That's why they need jail and mace, followed by a new pattern of reinforcement of useful traits such as responsibility, discipline, etc. That will help them best improve themselves, their condition, those around them, and the world. Then we need better teachers and better parenting for the next generation.
Fascists and Nazis, that's what you are if you admit that there are clearly differences between men and women? I would say the the person who refuses to have a discussion and only wants to shut everyone down is the Fascist or Nazi.
mike hunt They probably do, but these nihilistic, left-extremist, anarchist 😭babies are there to protest free speech, not to listen. They have to be so god damn tired of feeling "offended" and bitter all the time.. So glad this movement of stupidity, just about, only exists in media for me. Still tho, im watching, and cheering, for Jordan Peterson. He uses my two favorite guns in his fights: Reason and logic! Go team Jordan!
I am forced to think that elementary and high schools are not teaching history the way it was taught when I was younger. Nobody who has studied World War II would throw the word "Nazi" around the way I see it done way too often by young people today. I've heard Donald Trump called a Nazi hundreds of times, for example, and no matter what you think of him or how much you disagree, he is not a Nazi. Nazis conduct dental experiments without anesthesia on groups they hate prior to mass executions of those groups. Nazis never allow the other side to be heard, they hate everyone who isn't like them and everyone who isn't a Nazi too. Nazis murder idiot students who have the audacity to get in front of a camera and a microphone and call others Nazis and say that they have no right to speak. And by the way, Nazis attempt to take over the world so they can tell everyone what to do or kill them if they don't do what they've been told. And Nazis abolish existing governments then impose their own horrific law. Gee, Nazis sound like Islamic fascists practicing Sharia, but don't tell these dopey students that.
George Bush (the son) was also called a Nazi. Back when he was president people would say corporations were Fascist.... It's nuts. Funny though, the day after Obama became president, corporations were suddenly no longer Fascist. It was like magic.
1:19:50 - "Atari was hiring more women thirty years ago than Google is today. Why is that?" There, I just rephrased the question to cut it down from three minutes to five seconds.
Thank you crazy leftists for once again bringing an amazing event to my attention which I otherwise would have never known about. You guys are doing a great job promoting and advertising these awesome discussions :)
Yes, Nazis and leftists have a lot in common. They don't know what they are talking about when they are calling white male conservatives "Nazis". Leftists are idiots.
Ikr?!! I couldn't believe they just let her go, I'm betting the system she destroyed was worth some big bucks. If they catch her slashing tires and smashing windows, does she get a pass on that too, just because she's "protesting"? Useless Portland cops.
SeleckPlays did you learn that word playing minecraft , or did you have a wider world view . And yes free speech means listening to facism but having the option not to listen
Unless, of course, that idea is that white men have created a framework by which they deliberately exclude non white men from economic and political opportunities.
I love the fact that they walked out after she said men on average are taller... If you find that offensive I dont really know how you begin to have a conversation.
Holy shit that girl at 1:02:35 is absolutely insufferable. How could anyone befriend someone so willing to show such disrespect and contempt to friendly individuals willing to answer their questions? Unbelievable.
The last lady sounds insane. Stages are typically raised so that everyone in the audience can see who is speaking or performing. There are theaters created in such a way so that the stage is set below the audience or the audience is raised above the performers but those are typically extremely large and costly to build. Not to mention, typically the seats that are the highest above and thus furthest away from the speakers are usually considered the absolute worst seats in the house. Not every stage can be made so that the audience is above the people speaking. It has nothing to do with microaggressions or dominance or whatever. It has to do with cost, availability, and effectiveness. I just do not understand the mindset that everything, even the mundane, is done so to project some form of power dynamic. It is a mindset that would surely make you anxious and paranoid about the entire world. How can anyone be happy about their lives if all they see in everything, even inanimate objects, is some insane view that it is an opposition to their existence? Those post modernist philosophers really had a very bleak view of this world. I can understand the cynicism but it really has gone too far now.
I think this comes from the traditional layout for courthouses, churches, etc., to be constructed so that the elite in power don't have to watch their backs. Having a circle with such a large audience is obviously impractical. I think it's a strawman attack.
Jezus, that last woman got triggered by the featured speakers having microphones and a place on the stage. There's nothing they cannot take offence at.
What if they had been in an amphitheater where the speakers were staged below the audience? I wonder how she’d twist that to be some sort of hierarchical staging that places the audience “beneath” the invited panelists?
Keep fighting the good fight, Brett, Heather and James. The rational and reasonable people of this country are rooting for you. PS: Helen seemed very reasonable, too. Great panel.
I highly recommend anyone who is likely to watch this whole video to do so from beginning to end without jumping around. The question and answer session is awesome and well worth your time.
Those four panelists fill me with hope for the future. One of the best youtube video's I've seen in a while. A hat-tip to Portland State for bringing us this.
The fact that it's 2018 and we are still having conversations about whether men and woman are different, should tell you something about the American education system...
No different than in the left-minded European countries, especially Germany during the last three-four decades - the virus of brain eating postmodernism has been spreading for a long time and has infected many and much of the Western Worlds -
The dude probably just wants to go back to his room and have a beer and do some coding and marvel at what unique app he has created. And instead, he is just dying of awkwardness of the whole situation.
smokydave Its a term that Feminsits use to judge & manipulate others - and the Stand hard is always unequal, they don't apply the same standard to themselves.
as the trigglypuffs make their exit and declare anyone who disagrees with them nazis...soon the real world is gonna slap them in the face, reality will hit like a ton bricks and smash there naive little world
The problem is that they will always play the victim card. They will take no responsibility for their lack of success in the real world, only that they were oppressed. It's the entire problem, the only way to avoid this ideology growing is literally to make sure they find some type of success. If this shit happened in my tribe back in the day they'd find themselves "lost" in the woods, with only themselves to rely on. They'd change their tune real quick to survive on their own or nature would consume them and recycle their biology for something more useful.
LOL, that question: why are you all up there and we're all down here and don't have a microphone? because the people are there to listen to the designated speakers not the people in the audience. Why is that hard to understand???
Then the whiners are too stupid to formulate a direct question, but think they merit the same right to be on a stage and heard, without doing the years of work that got those people on the stage.
Hey middle aged perma-student lady: if you want to be on the dais with the microphone, organize your own talk and see who shows up. What's so hard about that?
On the Sweden question. I can comment since I've lived here for quite some time now, but I'm not natively Swedish so I think I have an outsiders viewpoint on it. One of the first things I noticed that really surprised me (positively) was that there were quite a few women doing the garbage collection, maintenance, taxi drivers, bus drivers, working in heavy machinery factories etc. I know that there are no pay differences in these areas based on gender. It's purely a job that pays a certain amount. So, from that point of view I really like the feeling here. Another factor which might not sit well with our US readers is the notorious taxation system in Sweden. What this does is pretty much levels the economic playing field for many job types to such an extent that for a lot of cases it doesn't matter what job you do, you'll end up with a relatively similar wage as a large proportion of society. There are exceptions: doctors, dentists, business owners etc. are always going to make more money, but they are objectively difficult jobs to get into based on intelligence or business savvy. That said, I see loads of women in all those areas also. But back to the "normal" jobs, since that covers the vast majority of people. The effect of the taxation system is that it reduces envy and general discontent among people. The government (via taxes) provides a lot of ground-level services (and the jobs to support those services) to everyone, regardless of income, that make life possible to live without worrying too much about making ends meet. That support structure cost money and the taxes go to help with that. I think that the possibilities given to people here allow them to function effectively and happily. In my humble opinion, it's a very good system. Another interesting thing, almost unique to Sweden, is the time given to new parents (both men and women). There's also a societal expectation that men take parental leave when they have a kid. It's socially unacceptable here not to do that. p.s. I work in tech, so last thing: I see very few women in tech. I mean coding here, not project managers etc. I see equal capability, but in todays tech space, you need to put in hours and hours of extra time just to keep up with the changing landscape to be a good coder. Guys tend to not mind wasting their personal time catching up, most women won't do that. I have no data to back that up except direct experience. I don't log it =) I'm not Google.
The last woman is an example of the problem with society. She probably sat there the entire night stewing over the fact that they were sitting higher than her and not hearing ANY of the discussions. She doesn't want to have a real conversation she wants to push her ideas. Sad.
What's an adult? Have you watched a broadcast of members of parliament (or whatever the equivalent is on your country)? Behaviour like that would get you kicked out of a grade 7 classroom, yet they're highly paid people who govern us all. I have no idea what an adult is supposed to act like.
Because they've been mollycoddled all their lives. Raised to think they're victims when in fact they've been given a conceptual special badge that allows them to be right in all arguments because of who they are. They have never had to learn how to actually engage in or debate anything. They are spoiled children, and they have absolutely no realization of this fact.
Wow what a stark contrast between the profound brilliance of the panelists and utter stupidity of some of these students. Heather Meyer completely dominated in this panel, she just cut straight to chase, no bullshit no holding back. Peter Boghossion was exceptional as well, especially on how he managed to cope with the sheer degeneracy and grotesque ignorance in the Q&A. All around excellent panel.
Gripping. Thanks to all the panel and PSU. This conversation helps. It performs balancing, sharpens mind and contributes valuable and philanthropic equity to civilized society (east and west) as a whole.
I am so glad that I watched this today. I saw James this morning on an interview program and was interested to hear more about the science behind his paper. I have not been disappointed in what I have heard from four educated and intelligent people. Instead of walking out those people should of hung around and listened, they might have learned something. Thank you for having me here today, I almost passed it up because of the place it was coming from, I guess I needed to learn something also.
I just found out today that this panel talk happened.... Just like the protests in Toronto against Jordan B Peterson, this signifies a huge shift in Western culture. This should be in all history books in 50 years time.
It's perfectly acceptable to be angry, but not all actions taken in anger are good and appropriate. Learn to be angry while still managing to control yourself at a level expected of every adult.
The appropriate and scholarly response by the protesters would have been to watch the talk then bring up their counterpoints in the Q&A. Of course, that would require them to have a coherent, logical argument based on facts and data.
For me that I'm watching this from Italy, a country that have been oppresed by a fascist regime, all that is happening in America (but also in many West Democracy), has similarity with fascism. Feminism and gender ideology sound like fascism and fascism propaganda. I really hope our countries will find the strenght to kick out feminism and sessist ideology from our world. It's our battle, it's up to us to fight for the sake of our children. But I'm happy, now I see the begin of a fight, it will be long, hard, like all the fights for freedom. Thank you for share this precious and illuminating document. Sorry for my english
Women and Men ARE different, biologically, and psychologically.... but that is a good thing, for we are all equal in importance, it is just that our roles according to Nature are different for a reason, they complement each other... one is not more important than the other. We are the Yin and Yang of Nature. And no, there there is no more intelligent individuals in one gender or the other... I have ran into pretty stupid people in BOTH genders!
I agree except that males are on the average more intelligent than females when it comes to mathematics, science and yes, even history in many cases. That definitely is not written in stone but ..on average it is true. As a female I can am secure enough in myself that I can admit that I love and appreciate that the genders are different in many ways.
Sandy Miller That's BS. On average men and women basically the same level of intelligence. Men have more geniuses, as well as more imbeciles. Women are more even.
But that's the WRONG kind of diversity because women don't come out on top in every way, so it's misogynistic. They want the RIGHT kind of diversity that favors women. Because -women are better- women are underrepresented. Just look at the approaching 2:1 women to men ratio on college campuses.
I studied medicine so I've got a fairly good understanding of humans lol Women and men obviously have xternal differences such as fat deposit location and muscle length, density, and strength on top of the obvious differences like presence of body hair, rate of hair growth, and genitalia. In terms of the brain which is what leads to intelligence well first off, it depends on their genetics and upbringing. You can have the potential to be smart but have a bad upbringing and constantly make bad choices and have a good upbringing with what we would look at clinically as brain which isn't optimal or things may come naturally to otherwise unsound brains ex: savants. Brain chemistry? Women tend to have more pathways which cross between sections and men tend to have then more isolated. In short, women are better at multi tasking and men are better at focus biologically. We see this in stereotypes and they really do come from are re place of fact. Women tend to think about things all at once "how do I look, what's for dinner, is this good for me, why am I in traffic so long, etc". Whereas men go through a process when thinking more often such as "what's for dinner, oh maybe what I saw on that show, I should watch that show again, do I look as good as as jerry Seinfeld? " Of course not every man or woman is like this as asnr there's mixes but honestly guys, this is how brains often work on a general level. Do some self review. You might see yourself doing it exactly as I showed within the next hour!
Their fragility is really at the heart of their rage and mob mentality. They hide behind virtue and say they are against fascist power structures, but what they mean is that they hate how incapable they are to exercise power in their lives so they have to blame it on being victims instead of taking responsibility for themselves. They aren't really railing against fascism, they are mad they aren't the ones with the power to make others bend to their wills.
I'm a 68 yr young transwoman , transitioning 5 yrs ago after moving to a wonderful BC small interior logging community, I'm still very busy doing construction work which has been my primary vocation. I've had great acceptence coming out and living full time female, now post op. I.ve always loved the very binary nature of nature and now this woke postmodernist ideology I see as a threat to all honest transwoman as well as many others . Thanks to this panel and there adherence to the truth against those that would deny it. I've still got lots to build including my own femininity.
Uneducated liberal: “My friends and I have been ignored by the university and they won’t let us have a voice!” Professor at university “that is not okay and you should have a voice and I will help you wherever I can.” “.......” liberal’s friend: “see, you interrupted her!”
You go to university to learn, not to have a voice. You know very little to voice an opinion about which they show quite clearly in this video. That's why there are professors who are professionals at universities to teach students who listen to them.
The real question is, why would someone who identifies neither as a man nor a woman be offended about differences between men and women? Why even attend the event to begin with? I mean, aren't binaries for us boring Nazi-fascist-normies now? By the way, the term Nazi is cultural appropriation!!
What a great panel. Both those interested in honest dialogue and the ideological dogmatists speak very clearly and crisply for themselves. Thank you for putting this on. I have subscribed and look forward to more of your presentations.
This is why the students are so bold about being stupid. If i walk in to my school/uni and start breaking equipment i'll be in trouble immediately. These guys dont even bother running away because they can sit there with a smug face without any consequences.
@@MsDidi38 Women aren't good at tech at the same rate that men are good at tech, but that probably has nothing to do with height. If there is a connection or correlation, it's deeply embedded and incredibly ancient.
@@MsDidi38. We had a neuropsychology conference in Brazil with a french professor and it was really interesting. There are some studies available about babies preferences. They are not culturally aware, but already gravitate toward some specific choices for each gender.
My answer to the question at 1:26:00: There is nothing wrong with anyone being personally emotionally triggered by anything, as long as they don't involve others in it. The unloving behaviour is when people go "Im feeling angry, upset, etc - so that gives me the right to project it onto others, try to control or manipulate them or treat them badly. THAT is what is unloving, uncivilized & interferes with sincere & genuine discourse to seek truths or create solutions.
Yes. Although, the people, who stood up at the beginning were not simply angry. They basically came with the intention to sabotage the whole discussion from the very beginning, and *that* is a very different story. The original answer in the video was mostly about that. Most angry people don't damage sound systems on their way out.
Chakib Tsouli - Apparently they are so superior in their intellect and moral superiority, and are on such a higher level socially, that they can’t waste their brain space on factual based discussions...
20:30 I'm astonished by the protesters and what they reacted to and their comments. Simply cretin level. Breathtaking. I'm so glad I graduated in 1990 before this rot set in.
So you didn’t deal with racism and nationalism and gay rights in the 80s? While others were saying seemingly reasonable criticism against societal change? In 20 years, those people that walked out will be just like you - they will be in disbelief when college students in 2040 will walk in offense at something that they thought was cutting edge and something to protest and fight for 20 years ago.
@@danp3808 Unless I misunderstand you, this is a false analogy. It's one thing to defend the rights of an oppressed group and it's another thing to use this as an excuse to destroy democracy and society. Notice, BTW, which group in the US gets so involved with all this "diversity" stuff: rich white bicoastal intelligentsia. This is very characteristic and it's the same thing that happened in Russia in the late 19th century where similar elites got infected by nihilism which eventually led to the year 1917. Also Ayn Rand comes from the same milieu (I know it sounds paradoxical but I know her type like the back of my hand as I grew up in a communist country, long story). It's very well described by Dostoyevsky in his _Demons._ There is nothing new under the sun here, it's just happening for the first time in America so many people are confused. Communists merely used a different _divider:_ the _class._ Modern "wokism" cannot use _class_ anymore as it was discredited since Solzhenitsyn's "GULag Archipelago", so it uses _race_ and _gender_ instead, for the same purpose. The strategy is always the same: _Divide et impera._ I only hope the whole idiocy will be over before it claims too many victims.
It may be worth noting that (correct me if I'm wrong) that the 36% women at Atari statistic was across all departments including art dept and marketing, staff services etc. My recollection is that Atari had a couple of female programmers (still trailblazing for the time) but not 36% of programmers were female, which may change the context of the correlation being made in that particular question.
Just as an older person - in the 1980s and even early 90s, men saw touching a keybard as demeaning. A keyboard was a typist tool - seen as female. I suspect atari had a lot more keyboarding done by women while the provrammers wrote the program by hand - just my anecdotal remembrance of male and female behaviour
We really didn't know that until recently though. That is to say, no one felt sure that the different interests weren't imposed on people by society. The ol' should girls and boys play with dolls or trucks debate. Seems to me it's a very recent new part of the discussion to admit that maybe it's actually ok if women want to do different stuff. One problem though, is that the most prestigious gigs aren't the ones women gravitate to generally.
@@Captain_MonsterFart So, why is that a "problem"? Is it possible that women don't value "prestige" as highly (relative to other benefits) as men? Again, why do you think this is a "problem"?
On the disruption at 21 min, when will they start charging people criminally for damaging equipment, this is destruction of private property, as we are so often told...you have the right to say what you like, but this does not free you from consequence of action
You've got to love 'millenialsplaining' where an 18 year old with no life experience tells adults how the world works using made up social studies words and up-speaks at the end of every sentence.
I know. And I can't say I am innocent of this either because I used to be exactly like that years ago. My fortune was to live with parents who taught me good manners and a father who is a Biologist so this information has always been there when I needed. No need to figure out it on my own when I got encyclopedia as my father. :D