I honestly love the fact that James Gunn is actually giving credit to the comic book creators. Marvel never does (As the Hawkeye show demonstration with Matt Fraction) and I love that James Gunn actually cares about the vision of creators
@@Asupernaruto1 literally is bud, the lack of creative freedom and the direction marvel goes with it's creators is too constricting, he said it himself lmao. No one who deserves the credit gets it
the problem with dc is the executives the higher ups, there the ones that F up D.C all the time. i wont be surprise when James gunn quits dc after too many disagreements n etc
Matt Fraction was a creative consultant on the show. Look after the official credits. Many comic writers were creative consultants on Marvel shows. Get your facts straight.
I’m hoping and fairly certain that the more traditional Superhero stories are what hasn’t been released yet, and that he’s just giving us tastes of the different storytelling techniques that we’ll be seeing from this point on.
but the dc fan base said james gunn was a evil man and destroyed the dcmu and remember he fired henry cavill. just saying cause i tired to defend him then and got no backing and alot of shit. funny seeing in the comments here of people happy to see james gunn here.
@@Fragrantcanary this channel (another video) and others. and why now cause now is when i watched this. i had this saved and i dont watch everything when it comes out. cant you tell that im calling people out? i really hate this its a 10 or a 1. theres nothing in the middle and calm thinking isnt what anyone does anymore. when first things come out blow it up and if it turns out to be wrong defend it likes its the world or pretend it was never said and get mad when someone calls them out. we used to call people like that snowflakes but now its the norm and thats just sad to me.
I really want a Nightwing movie but I also hope in Chapter 2 that it is about magic. I want a Doctor Fate movie, Zatanna, and Etrigan. God I would be so happy if we ever get Etrigan.
but just a few months ago he was the evil man or is the dc fan base full of 10 year olds? not saying you but i tried to argue to people to wait and that was alot of crap i caught.
I am curious about the "overall" plans for the Authority. Basically, they seem to be planned as super-powered group who have a "one track" mind/goal and will do anything to reach it, essentially Anti-Hero-esque group. Wondering if the plan is to eventually have them face off with Superman to "correct" their mindset similar to how Superman faced off with "The Elite" in DC Animated Movie? Because if you have individuals like the Authority in the same universe as a hopeful Superman, it would mean they would have ideological clashes, and not just differences of opnion.
The authority will give rise to a proper JLA for this universe in the sense that there prob isnt a JLA yet but OG heroes realisr that there needs to be
@@bellcurve0 If that is the case for the new "universe". then most likely there is no JSA pre-cursor to the JLA/JL I am hopeful that DC can finally establish a proper movie-universe (in this case interconnected universe)
"I've loved the DC characters since I was a child. They are incredibly important to me"❤️ -- I can honestly say that I believe him when he said that... These characters are important to me too.
Would have loved Tim Drake Over Damien but it's still pretty cool that we're getting a Robin on the big screen again and presumably the rest of the family is coming up to so we can finally get Nightwing * takes Titans behind the tool shed and shoots it*
@@brendaspence1824 The thing about Titans V3 is, they were all the leaders of their crew, and deferred to each other. That is why they have the best group friendship in comics. And that is why they'd make the best Teen Titans movie... or young justice.
@Ultimate Oreo That's a huge mistake imo. Static widely known for the television series which brought some great stories and lessons. But what made it really popular was the role he played as dc Spider-Man, and the adventures he had with batman, Superman, and the justice league.
I think once you build the league in Chapter 1. You use chapter two to show the street level characters that are inspired by the league. And Static fits that
Looking at the movies from the DCAMU, Dick Grayson was introduced in Son of Batman as Nightwing and it played off of Damien and that really worked for me. Also incredibly hyped for a Swamp Thing horror movie
I'm really hoping DC will keep with the personalities of the characters. I mean Superman was always showing the good, the positive in people while Batman showed the dirty underworld and, if one is even planned, Nightwing could fall somewhere in between.
Im definitely getting a big Star Wars mega-narrative vibe from this and I dig it. All the different genres and mediums working together to tell one massive saga rather than a bunch of smaller isolated stories that are only tangentially connected.
I mean it's not really a vibe, it's literally what he's tryna do, just with the concrete "if you played the character in one medium, you're playing them in every medium" (which I'll be amazed if they can actually pull off, cuz that could backfire easily)
Very excited to see how this goes, and what more there is that hasn’t been revealed. Especially looking forwards to the Green Lantern project, and maybe a Justice League Dark down the line.
I'm very interested to see how a fully rebooted DC universe that starts with already established characters (Batman having Damian as a Robin and All Star Super Man) is going to end up working out.
It's not fully rebooted. It's like the New 52. Most things are gone from the previous universe but there are some that will stay. James gunn said this on Twitter
The majority of my channel is DC related topics. As someone whose been cautious about this reboot, Gunn definitely just eased some nerves. DC and it’s pantheon of characters means to world to me like how it does for a lot of people. This presentation made it clear that it does for Gunn as well. The symbolism associated with DC is inherent to the the purpose of superheroes as a whole. There entire existence is meant to serve as a narrative device to spread messages of hope, growth, optimism, and friendship first and foremost before other typical narrative themes and tropes make their way into these characters stories. CBM in general over the decade have shunned away from these ideals, using them sparingly, but never fully embracing them. With the excuse always being, it won’t work for live action, or, it’s to goofy and unbelievable. Or my favorite one, DC heroes are to much like Gods to make it work. Gunn has me hopeful that finally someone will embrace what makes DC great, and give us a version of the DCU that’s worthwhile and meaningful.
I have suspicions he's building towards Justice League Dark in some form. He said there are other Chapter 1 titles he can't reveal yet because they give too much away. I think Swamp Things gets us Constantine and we have JL Dark by the end of Chapter 1
They may be planning to have the HBO Max shows air during 2024. EDIT: Also, since they're bringing in Xolo Mariduena, who got to shine as Miguel in Cobra Kai, I think casting Tanner Buchanan as Booster Gold would be a good fit. The two of them had great chemistry on Cobra Kai, where Tanner played Miguel's rival Robbie Keene.
I'm really loving that this new DCU/DCCU/DCEU/Whatever the f*dge is starting in the middle of the characters' stories instead of being complete origins for everybody. I never really cared for reboots saying that no superheroes ever existed at all until THE EXACT YEAR the movies premiered.
After the guardians chose Guy Gardner to replace Hal Jordan, Hal Jordan choose John Stewart to replace Guy Gardner and take Hal Jordan's place if anything happens to him. Kyle Rayner ended up taking up Hal Jordan's place while John Stewart protected earth. Apparently, in the animated series, Kyle Rayner was supposed to be fighting Parallax Hal Jordan later on in the show, but the story was scrapped after the comic fans' complaints. With that in mind... I believe it would've been awesome if Hal Jordan Parallax was a result of loosing his BFF Barry Allen rebooting the universe, especially if he was the only person that could remember the crisis event and remember his sacrifice. It would've been a great explanation for why Wally West was the only flash in the JLU series of his own universe. Could you imagine having to deal with asking for help from people that could never understand what you've had to endure?
A jaded Supergirl? The Lanterns? Maybe we’ll see Red Lantern Supergirl, the emergence of the spectrums with an overall build towards the Blackest Night/Brightest Day? Sure they could navigate that with some changes……
This makes me hopeful. I love DC and Marvel. Having both of them pushing quality content into theaters/streaming just makes the other step its game up. They are at their best when they have the other to compete with at the top of the market.
Here we go DC take over by James Gunn. Sounds good but finally a Robin in Batman movie. And wish they did someone different then Swamp Thing like Zantana.
the argument for doing a straight comic to screen movie is that there are creatives involved. script writers, directors, actors, cgi artists, it goes on, that also want to feel like they are true to themselves and show some artistry. sometimes that deviates a story. who signs onto a movie generally as a director to be told, this is how the story will be and what it will look like. no deviations. good luck
I'm cautiously optomistic I like the whole Gods and Monsters theme and I'm excited for most of these films, however, it seems like Gunn's playing favorites on what can be kept or not, and as a Dc Comics fan, it reminds me a lot of the New 52 and how they handled continuity and it's possible that this might fall down a similar rabbit hole
wait, so when he says the lanterns mystery will tie in to the dcu overall story, he means the big story for dcu is blackest night right?? he never mentioned any other property was tying into the overall story, just connect to the same universe. can we fan cast batista as black hand?
The only thing I wished James Gunn changed was for the Green Lantern show to be a movie. Also have Dick Grayson be the Robin of the DCU, but other than that, I'm excited.
I love everything except that he’s going to reset batman again. I thought the batman was a perfect movie and would have been great to include in the dcu.
@@_Antijosh_ He’s more *important* as Robin and the first Robin since he started the “Batfamily” being the first in technically and taught Bruce how to trust others more but is generally more *popular* as Nightwing so don’t get things twisted. He’s arguably the most important Robin only competing with Tim Drake. Big DC fan here… so many comics yell this at us besides certain trash elseworlds like White knight.
I was going to read the article but then I was like nah...I will just wait for Sal & Benny to release a video on it, then like 2 minutes later I got at notification for this video. Thanks guys. 👍🏻😃
Well he talks a decent game. And he seems legit excited to make this happen. But a lot of the directions they've chosen to go in are kind of a mixed bag for me. My reaction was kinda like: All star Superman? Awesome! Green lantern? Cool. Damien? Hmm ok. The authority? Uh who are, or wtf is the authority? But like most things, it will come down to execution. The proof will be in the proverbial pudding as they say. Hopefully we'll finally get the DC universe we either need, want or deserve or whatever lol
random heroes and shit can be great though, guardians of the galaxy were relatively unknown before james gunn made a live action of it, he could probably do the same with the authority
I think it would be a really good idea for direct comic adaptations (if possible) for the writers of the comics to have some involvement such as Tom king having some involvement for Super-Girl Woman Of Tomorrow what does everyone else think?
32:09 I agree that not every superhero movie needs a 200 million dollar budget. If Michael Bay can make 3 movies under 50 million (Pain and Gain 30 million, 13 hours 50 million, ambulance 45 million) so can DC!
This is going to come down to the availability of anything that isn't released in cinema. DC shows and animated movies release late & are often spread over multiple services in the UK.
Im super hype for this so far but I do think that some of the gods and monsters projects that they « can’t talk about » will be a Wonder Woman, Flash, and Justice League movie
Here’s my problem…Gunn was brought in to give the BIG MAINLINE characters their due because they HAVENT been given their justice on screen yet. I’m all for more niche projects like this once the universe is ALREADY established. World build first. Build the justice league and the world around it before you give me a damn show about Frankenstein and his bride working with Rick Flag SR and Weasal…and the Authority is not the SECOND movie you make in the creation of your new universe. You bring them in later on if you want. I was worried about this. I understand the happiness that they have an actual solid direction and plan, and I also really like that they’re clearly taking DIRECTLY from specific comic runs. But that was the literal floor for what I was expecting. Zaslav was quoted as saying that they were going to make damn sure that the big tent pole characters would be fleshed out first. They would be taken care of first. Before they even think about doing lesser known characters. I just don’t understand these choices. Wonder Woman prequel without Wonder Woman? Booster Gold given his own entire tv show before we get anything from the hawk family or JL Dark/Fate or before the Teen Titans or before any Speedforce characters. I’m literally only excited for Lanterns Superman and brace and bold but even with Batman I’m really upset that we’re just going to skip like 8-10 years of Bat family life and relationships with dick Barbara tim and Jason. Also, he won’t be close to the same age as Superman. On one hand I’m happy on the other hand I was hoping for something completely different and that he wouldn’t pull a James Gunn and do more with unknown characters than known characters.
I trust James Gunn to make the films and shows great, but the titles/descriptions don’t really excite me if I ignored his involvement - my other reservation is that in his other people advising (?) are Tom King (whose work I really like but he does seem to tend to almost shoehorn characters in to stories he wants to tell rather than present them as established) and Christina Hodson (who I don’t know if she is to blame for the Cassandra Cain destruction in BoP, but as screen writer seems the most likely candidate) - if they advise on the approach to characters, I have some concerns
The Batman I would do with this is that yes it’s Batman and Damien, but he’s got nightwing, batgirl, and Red Robin. But not red hood, the sequel or the third movie would be under the red hood…you could even have nightwing getting attacked at the end of his movie which directly leads into under the red hood
9:45 i agree 100% , jumping to the last one takes away the possibility of us loving the characters and there character development. Like it would've been nice to see jason todd first before turning into red hood, would've nice to see Batman train Dick Grayson etc, would've been nice to see Dick Graysons evolution and turning into Night wing, thats the best way to tell a story. I dislike doing the "mcu black widow " approach which is have the events happen and then later on go back and do an origins story . The universe is better off doing it in that order
To play Devil's advocate, the only thing that makes me nervous is the whole "have actors play their roles in different mediums"-thing. It's ambitious and leads to cohesion. I'm just afraid that real life has shown us that you can't predict what actors are going to do or what's going to happen to them. Obviously, the quick fix is to have an understudy in case. Other than that, expecting good things.
So one big thing not really mentioned is he mentions team peacemaker when talking about Amanda waller. So that's keeping suicide squad and peacemaker's universe going
It means there will be aspects of the timeline that survive the reset from The Flash, meaning that things will still change, but he'll likely keep as much of that same crew as he can (while also reshuffling bits of it because it's not gunna be exactly the same/it's still s new timeline).
How crazy would it be if the mystery uncovered in the GL show was that a new god was found dead in a dumpster? A heavy Morrison presence, Batman and Son, imagine if one of the sequels is Batman:R.I.P. and then Justice league: first Crisis. But it’s really just Gunns version of Final crisis
Yeah, I really don't know what to think of this lineup. Like, I'm currently most excited for Shazam and the The Batman sequel, which don't really have anything to do with this new DCU. Superman: Legacy sounds cool, but unfortunately, it's not with Henry Cavill, and not that whoever they pick won't be good, but his version of Superman was already struggling with what it means to be Human and Kryptonian, right? Why continue on with Aquaman if the universe is rebooted with Flash? It still sounds a bit shaky getting this new universe started because they want to maintain aspects of the previous installments but also get rid of others, when a completely clean break would have been clearer. I like the idea of maintaining the same actors across every medium, and I like that it's going to be more creator/story driven than producer/architect driven, but for the moment, it's just a waiting game, I can't get too excited about these things until we are much closer to their releases.
So the Flash resets the DCU…then Aquaman 2 comes out…this reset is feeling very familiar to New 52 where somethings are reset and others aren’t…like how Waller will still have Peacemakers team (strange how the one TV show Gunn worked on seems to still have a place in the DCU but everything else had to go and be recast). Also not a fan of Gunn having a hand in writing everything feels like we’re only going to have one writers point of view on every character
@@dukeheavens9990 potential, the issue with Gunn is while the Snyderverse was very dark Gunn has a habit of making everything a little too comical (that sad Guardians 3 may prove to be a happy medium) and not everything is meant to have humor. There are characters and storylines that need to be dark and humourless but if Gunn is writing everything I can’t see that happening. Plus like I say it seems a little hypocritical to say that everything needs to be reset/recast yet it sounds like everything Peacemaker related will stay the same. But time will tell, honestly the one thing DC has done well are it’s animated shows and movies so really I’d focus on making epic cinema worth animated films over live action if I were them
Gunn's reason for recasting Superman makes no sense. And his patchwork approach to a reboot is emulating the worse mistakes DC publishing has made. The New 52 Superman was a terrible idea. They had to kill him off and have the real Superman return. Gunn should have said nothing. He should have worked on a new Superman (if he wants a new version) set outside the DCU continuity. He should have let the slated films come out (with the Cavill cameos)and seen how they performed. If they don't do well, his new Superman represents the start of a new Universe. If they do well, sequels can get made that do not reference the characters outside of the specific properties. But this obsession with a shared-Star Wars-like Universe approach prevents a more logical solution to the problem. He is willing to go with two version of Batman, but not Superman? He can't explain why Superman needs to be 25 years old for his story which he now claims starts with Clark already working for the Daily Planet. This sounds like exactly where we left Cavill's version. There's no need to reference age.
