James Holmes | Mental Health & Personality | What is Schizotypal Personality? 

That's a good one.👍

He did a video on this topic. Here is the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--LTuvDTAHmQ.html

I worked with one. She found a similar community of people on tumbler and they all travelled to the states for his trial.

Yes!

james burns that’s crazy. I can’t even imagine being one of the victim’s parents and seeing a bunch of strangers show up to testify against you in court after your child just got murdered...

Bec SocSci: Ted Bundy apparently had the same ability. Weird.

lol i was wondering the same thing

That's just the way the establishment photoshop artist do it for these false flag operations. They get a kick out of letting you know it's all BS without actually coming out and saying it. They are mocking the public. All of these ficticious false flag perpetrators are photo shopped to look crazy, ominous, or some even cartoonish.

@@imnotabotrlyimnot sooo you're saying the shooting in colorado by this dude was fake??

@@blackreign673 In the sense that the story the news agencies report to the public is false, then yes. That's not to say, there wasn't any actual violence, may have been.

Don't you feel any sympathy for him, his family?? Of course it's tragic that all those people were injured or killed , but it's a great tragedy that he did not get the help he needed. He's going to be in prison all drugged up for the rest of his life. I saw his mother interviewed and I just kept thinking , what if that were my son? There is mental illness in my family, I have bipolar, bad anxiety and a host of other symptoms and I have been through the system, social workers are pretty worthless when it comes to diagnosing people, finding a good psychiatrist is difficult. Mental health care in this country is pathetic. These doctors just start throwing pills at you and see which ones stick. They never get to the root of the problem, which could be trauma or severe illness . This doctor has a clue, most don't. They don't care. Or they have mental health problems themselves, or they're burnt out. Schizophrenics I have known were fine, bright compassionate people in the teens but onset comes in early 20's usually and just morphs them into something else. It's so sad.

​@@anastasiamurawski6179 I feel for the guy, but people stating over and over in therapy that they have an irresistible urge to kill "many people" simply need to be locked up. If I go to an ER and show signs of self harm, they'll lock me up to protect me from me. Who was protecting those innocent theatre-goers? Nobody. That's who.

Wow, I'm sorry no one explained the diagnoses they came up with for you. That may have been really helpful at the time. Hope you're doing well now.

How are you going Kaos ?

Don't believe you. The military is through. You were explained the process and why you were booted.

Schizoid is that you have a lack of motivation to do anything and have nearly inexistant interest in people, you also have a flat affect, don't react or barely to provocation. Schizotypal is associated with magic thinking, psychosis and also low interest for people and weird emotional reactions. And dysthymia is just depression IIRC The thing with schizo- disorders is that none of them is clearly defined. My first psychiatrist thought I was schizophrenic at first, another thought I was schizotypal, the neurologist working with him thought I was schizoaffective for some reason but I understand it's not her job to decide that, my current psychiatrist just added "psychotic traits". I've never suffered from psychosis so far 🙄 It can also literally just be autism. Autism gets misdiagnosed as schizo disorders because they share the features of flat affect and limited interest for social interactions and repetitive behaviors do exist in schizophrenia too sometimes. I was personally disappointed that they'd be so quick to diagnose psychosis on me and seemed to think it's a waste of time to get screened for autism... But also, if I get diagnosed as autistic, it can also be a misdiagnosis of a psychotic disorder so maybe it actually is a waste of time. I don't think I care anymore. It's exhausting and the meds have no positive effects on me and I can't deal with psychologists anymore. I'll still try to get proper treatment for my anxiety and stuff like that, try rTMS, but I think I'm about done with the whole thing. I just want to be left alone while not suffering from poverty (a compromise society is not willing to make).

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I dont think he did. Classic false flag scenario

@@hemana3859 off your meds again?

@@aldxbaran lol. The reply of the clueless. You carry on sherlock. You got it all figured out. 😜

@@aldxbaran dude I don't even think it was a false flag but calling people who do in these days makes you sound like the crazy one. you probably think there has Never been a false flag event hahaaha Rheeeetard go learn how to read some of the CIA documents that are now public maybe you will see how F up things really are

@@aldxbaran lol

So what you're trying to say is those chops are well done?....

Damn! That's a good one!

He just drops the pretenses when it comes to the blatant religious frauds.It's funnier when he tries harder to seem non judgemental.

No he's exceptionally gifted at explaining complicated medical jargon in layman's terms, which is maybe why the medical profession don't like him.

What is that supposed to mean-sideburns? If so - How insightful and interesting from so many impressive minds.

Always the contradictions though yhat not resolved: if other people are worthless and can be killed then we. too are worthless and not needed to be alive. But since the focus is always on others this thinking would be hard to come by.

@@vjhardy100 True.

​@@vjhardy100 It's not as simple as someone casually pondering the value and meaning of life. James Holmes seemed to have been debating this topic with himself for most of his life, which all led up to what happened. Sometimes I wonder if people say "I can't understand" but what the really mean is, "I don't want to understand." It's understandable to be afraid of this dark truth, to be afraid of empathizing with it and understanding it but that's the only way to move forward; that's kinda the point of psychology.

@@vanillaketamine6060 casually pondering? Pondering by implication is deep n serious. And I never said anything about ' not understand '. Just pointing a contradiction on a line of thought. And a simple generalisation-- if one life is worthy, every life is worthy. There's a contradiction when we point at someone else as worthless forgetting that three fingers point at ourselves. I agree though that this lack of reflection is what makes it a psychological issue.

Hey I know this is an old comment, but have you checked out MBTI tests? It's Myers Briggs types. This tests helps you understand and learm your own personality better. It's legit. The CIA uses it to quickly assess how to communicate with new assets in the field. So basically everyone has a few different personality traits, and your balance of these traits can help you best express yourself with your own personality. For example some people are extroverted while some are introverted. This does not have anything to do with depression. Some of the happiest people are introverted. It just means they recharge their social energy while alone. Other traits are things like if you use thinking or feeling as your main type of information processing. For example: my type is INTP. This means I'm Introverted-Intuitive-Thinking-Percieving. Those are my major traits you would encounter if you interacted with me, it's how I interact with the world. Now sometimes if an extrovert is depressed they can feel more introverted. Oddly for them the cure is to go into public because extroverts charge energy in crowds. I know this all sounds crazy but please look into it. There are 16 types of personalities, and if you take the test and answer HONESTLY you can get to know your type and how to it can help you in this world. In psychology college courses they have moved to a new more nuanced type of test, but for beginners I recommend you start with MBTI. The tests are free online and take 30 mins

I am glad, He is still with Your Family!!!! God bless!!!

I laughed in this video when he talked about him receiving additional 3000+ years sentence, he said "I don't think he'll need to take those Planning for Life After Release classes at the prison..."

Lol! I can relate 😂. I was binge watching these a couple of weeks ago, actually lost sleep over it😂

Love when Dr Grande drops in a sneaky dry joke

Husband is listening after all! :))))

Which video game does he play?

Thanks for this positive comment about your friend. This guy’s videos seem incredibly negative towards schizotypal people but your comment made me feel better and seen

I think mental illness can be very hard on the people around the person who has it, sadly.

@Stephanie Campbell Probably because they think the person is interesting and they get along. I'd rather hang with someone like that instead of the same boring, dull people I see everyday.

@Stephanie Campbell He was my sister's friend. She didn't know he had it, & he stayed away from her when he suffered most; so he wouldn't alienate her. He confided in me.

One of the sweetest, smartest, and funniest people I have ever known was a roommate and “leader” in our social group in the early 90’s ended up losing complete contact with reality and was diagnosed with schizophrenia around the age of 20 Heartbreaking

cbsg5861 hey, there’s a queue here! 😁

Ba ha ha

Lol

Haha cute. But he's married. To me.

no offense but i hope yall are in your mid 30‘s and not teenager that are fangirling.

Look into mkultra.

I agree. Holmes and Lanza remind me very much of each other.

This sounds like the time when I was a little kid, thinking in the car as my mom was taking us somewhere. Suddenly I asked her if it’s possible to swallow your own tongue. I had to be left at her cousin’s house because I was suddenly afraid to swallow, fearing my tongue would fly down my throat if I did. Fortunately my fear only lasted a few hours, but I look back and roll my eyes at what a little weirdo I was.

This is really interesting. Forgive me for suggesting this, but do you think maybe you can sometimes be a bit of a hypochondriac? I say this because I can very much be one myself, and this sounds like something similar to things I do.

Psychology in high school? Nonetheless, I too am this way. I wanted to be an attorney but after hearing some of the horrific cases I had a panic attack for days. Same with mental health and animal cruelty and abuse. It’s very bad that I cannot even watch or hear a news story about any of these topics including brutal crimes. I was told I’m an empath and this is why.

@@UnityAgainstJewishEvilno. They’re probably an empath. Just like not everyone can stomach brain surgery, they can’t stomach mental health like this. That was rude of you to say. Not everyone can eat liver because we think it’s gross. That means I’m over reacting?! Cmon

Most people who've gone through narcissist abuse from a partner will tell you how psychologically difficult healing is in the stage of wondering if you're the one with NPD or bpd. I also had mentally ill friends use drama against me and tell me all these things about my psychological profile villainizing me only to apologize months later saying they didn't mean anything. Suffice to say I didn't finish the psychology degree I'd started before all this because it brought me back into obsessive introspection and self-analysis.

The left brain can override everything else. RE: Myself, I am medically rigid/reptilian if you so to speak but that is not my soul. RE: My soul and body don't agree with each other.

observed and learned behaviors?

I had a colleague like this. Her humor was also concrete. I later decided she us somewhere on the autism spectrum. The lack of ability by a highly intelligent person to understand metaphor is a giveaway.

James Holmes was not 'evil'. He was suffering from a mental dissorder.

Naw it’s more the length people will go through to to address these situations based off actual research of human psychology. So we understand and address this kind of shit better in the future. Evil is just a concept it’s not tangible, peoples brains being broken is something we know is real. It’s not an excuse for said behavior it’s just the facts

Old Iron. No. But after watching 15 hours of interviews ordered and released by the court in order to determine his mental health I at least understand the context.

Julian Sykes EXACTLY

Hey dude where can i watch the 8 hours of his psych interview?

@ChristopherFelicitas honestly I can't remember the channel but if you type in his name you will come across it

@@david8_0 Found it! Thanks man, the channel is Crime Vault for any people who want to see it in the future.

He was a PhD student isolated at his University, and some claim he met someone who befriended him, then vanished after the attack.

The Colorado "shooter" did a lot of damage for one college student on drugs. He was so looped in the car that they could not take a mug shot until the next day.

@@LulabellaDonna was he not sober during this, but just psychotic?

@@mikiharkin3539 One person could not have done that "job" perhaps he was set up, ever consider that? Do you know who his Father is?

@@LulabellaDonna He set it up and was right there doing it, so no, that's not possible.

I think his parents checked out. Because it was much easier to ignore his symptoms rather than actually finding help for him.

You are with the children as much if not more than the parent is. Your insight and recommendations should be used along with those of others who interact with the child.

@@cattycorner8 Agreed!

So true, this shallow means-to-a-financial-end approach to education and development will be the death of us in more ways than one

I think the hard thing for a lot of special needs parents is that despite their experience they're still not trained professionals. You might understand that your child has a medical or mental condition, but you don't have 8 years of collegiate training to understand that problem and how to treat it.

@Enchanted Odds what does that have to do with my comment? You should also consider the fact that if he had been forced to get the help he needed those people would still be alive. Even if you don't care about the mentally ill you should care about what happens when they don't get adequate treatment. I want less victims and if that means that we have to pay for and force people into treatment I am okay with that.

@Enchanted Odds i know you think this is a cool, edgy take but its just gross

@Enchanted Odds do you have Schizotypal personality disorder?

@Enchanted Odds Too bad we can't eliminate your uneducated comments.

In the UK, all mental health doctors/councillors what have you, have a clause that you are told before they treat you, that if you are at risk of hurting yourself or others, they can do away with doctor-patient confidentiality. It seems crazy that thats not the standard everywhere.

Don't know if you'll get this, as you wrote a year ago. The same has happened with me....I found Dr Grande last night and I've binge watched for 15 hours so far. I hope that's not a sign of some disorder! 😂

I was a sacred little kid who hid under desks and in closet in kindgergarden and did his homework dilligently, by grade four I was diagnosed with conduct disorder and was suspended for the first of probably 50 times by high school's end. All it took was appreciating that for the few hours I was not at home I was basically as free as I wanted to be, any consequences came much later and was worth the trade off for the fun. Cuz home was no fun either way.

Well, consider that the doctor states that this was the opinion of his college teachers, who are all a bunch of fukin' educated elitist idiots anyway, as far as I'm concerned. I give absolutely no credence to the casual observance of detached, anti-social-prone, elitist intellectuals, who likely share some of the same mental defects that Holmes suffers from.

It's definitely hard in situations like that, when a young child shows excessive attention to something like schoolwork, it could be religion or some other Noble virtue. So.etimes it's for the right reasons but sometimes that child is using it as a defense.

'@@jaelge Ah yes, because implying that people have mental defects because of your own weird bias against educated/intellectuals is 100% very totally much more big credible and not ableist at all. I mean, I agree that the college assessment was off, but that's a weird overreaction that comes off as a major projection. js.

It's as if he assumed "another version" of himself before committing the mass murder; a one who's able to stand out and get attention. Even his choice of hair dye, a bright orange, during that time probably made him stand out in a grocery store etc. It's as if dying his hair was a step towards this new version.

That definitely brings cases like this one much closer to home. I've lost loved ones tragically and know how painful it is and can't imagine how losing a goof friend or loved one to murder would feel. I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. Sending you best wishes, from Australia.

I’m so sorry

Sorry for the loss of your friend .

may your friend rest in peace, my condolences for your loss.

I'm so sorry sundog my cousin was supposed to be in that theater so now ever since then I can't look at the movie theater I walk pass it with my head down or I have to look at my phone cause I do not want to look at the movie theater my husband has to be on my left side when we go to the mall cause I have the shakes when I walk pass the movie theater

You are perfectly normal. I am sorry you lost your mother. Mine passed away very unexpectedly. I kept her voice mails to me for a year after.

I understand very much how you feel and the deep dread and despair around losing someone so close. I sometimes find myself asking why we have sentient life, as it seems almost like a cruel trick. But reality is what it is and we cant fight the natural order of things.

That happens a lot, unfortunately, with people that are hard to diagnose.... 😑

don’t go throwing DSM’s in glass houses lol. Sorry my humor isn’t nearly as good as Dr. Grande’s.

Heh heh heh . . . 😛

That’s funny 😂😂😂

On point! 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂

LOVE IT!!!

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Yes!! Please do this

It has a direct impact. Huge.

Not to mention generational trauma due to institutional oppression.

Consciousness is determined by material being and surroundings to a large extent.

Yes I’d love to hear more about this as well!

When I saw this in my feed I thought, "Wow, Dr. Grande is really fast on creating requested content!"

@@MasterMalrubius right? That was so quick!

Not cool for him, I mean it'd be interesting yeah but... not cool at all. Uhm also, just take a look at his icon for the channel... It's his face eh

He's just as weird as many of his subjects...

No

There are environmental and genetic causes for disorders. Some are more impacted from one than the other.

Nah....The only thing that's sad about this whole story ARE THE INNOCENT PEOPLE HE MURDERED & THE FAMILIES THAT STILL TO THIS DAY & WILL FOREVER HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS...There are millions of people all over the world that suffer as much & immensely greater than this POS..But they are not planning every detail of mass shooting people..!!!..Unbelievable...

THISSS^^

He has one already!:)

He did it before. Here is the link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Eg7HQ2_ESHI.html

Thanks for letting me know! I had a feeling I should have checked :)

jbr4gg - You are most welcome;) This video is great, enjoy!

Can you imagine how much you'd've learned from Eliot Rodger if he hadn't killed himself? Or any other killer?

@Takeshi Matimoto I’m not fascinated by the actual killing, for me it’s the whole legal aspect and how trials are conducted, but yes, I get your point!

It’s the psychologist that are crazy

Psychologists aren't known for their own self reflection.

The thing I’ve noticed about therapists is they don’t tend to judge any behavior as bad. I understand the approach and theory of this approach, but it seems we have 50 years of data that states the approach is a failure.

I have only known one child of a psychologist....well, both parents were psychologists. He was kicked out of college his Freshman year due to psychiatric instability. I remember there being lots of drugs, broken glass and terrifying pictures/journal entries. It is my only data point though.

Interesting...

Dr. Grande is amazing 💕🌵🏜

You're* Dr Grande can you do a video on people who feel compelled to correct grammar errors.

@@dougrogan379 This!! Please!!

Ive heard of the case, and it literally makes my skin crawl. 😬

Is she the one who went to visit her family with her abductor and "voluntarily" went back into the box under his bed?

@@dougrogan379 You didn't have to take the time to correct my poor grammer but you did and for that my dear Baxter I commend you. Many are fearful to correct me as I'm a 13th degree blackbelt in origami and just the sight of me picking up a napkin is enough to send absolute terror and urine down the pants of people. You've earned my respect Mr. Stockman may you go forth and conquer all that's around you beautiful champion.

Some people fall through the cracks, others are pushed through.

@@blujaebird True

I agree totally. Wellcsaid

Yes, he was certainly in his right mind enough to carry it all out!

So true. I made it to the comments section to say exactly this. Never really bought this dude was that psychotic. I mean he may have been a tad skizotypal but I feel like his dominant issue was darker, like psychopathy or sadism.

In complete agreement.Holmes wanted to kill as many people as he could get away with,never have to work again and be taken care of for the rest of his life. Mission accomplished. It makes me physically sick of our justice system.

That’s is why he was sentenced to mult life Terms

Disorder where you pull and fidget with your hair

They look empty...similar to some other mass shooters, like the sandy hook shooter. It’s a blank, vacant stare and it gives me the chills every time I see it

CDO1113 Stephen Paddock had that stare

I know someone who was in the CU doctorate program when Holmes was there. She said he was beyond weird and gave her the creeps. He was very awkward socially and in the class, as Dr. Grande mentioned.

His expression seems similar to that of Adam Lanza.

@@jayneneewing2369 Both were on anti-depressants/psychotropic drugs. So was Eric Harris. Go figure.

I thought so too. It sounds like some kind of excuse.

Believe it or not there are such things as interrogation to funnily enough find information or answers to questions like that one

@@anniemargareth7617 ???

@@peacenpowder I hear that's why a lot of people enrol in psychology courses too.

He was looking for concrete answers to his social and psychological problems in science. But if he can't grasp basic metaphors he dove head first into mind body problems which takes up most of philosophy religion psychology some neuroscience etc. You can't get more abstract except maybe advanced physics. However James Fallon is a famous neuroscientist studying psychopathy who found out from a head scan he had a brain feutures typical of psychopaths. So sometimes people do find answers in a way.

@@peacenpowder Well, of course he did. Did you really need the interview to figure that out? The dude was surrendering the happiness of his own life so that he could pursue a very specific quandary relating to the human condition; is there a good reason _any where_ for _any circumstances_ that humanity deserves to continue as a species? Personally, I find the conclusion he came to more revolting than the next desperate step Holmes took to broaden his search for meaning in life. That Dr. Goofballs up here finds that to be a joke rather than a treatable condition kind of proves Holmes' point that (in the field of neuroscience anyways) his peers are pathetically unqualified to be poking around in other people's heads like they have any idea of what makes life valuable, let alone communicating that wisdom to the rest of civilization outside of their offices, where they can lean back and admire their decorative plaques, honoring how fucking smart they are for figuring out how to pass some classes that don't teach psychologists how to treat for _"How do I stop wanting to fucking *kill everyone I meet?*"_ God damn, Holmes would have better off getting into narcotics, because at least down that career path, street folk call each other "fam" and mean it. But whatever. I already knew that the education system in the U.S. is in total freefall at this point. Have they stopped teaching about Nietzsche's perspective on religion, yet? Any ambitious psyche course students want to comment on that?

@@peacenpowder I find it really sad - he was aware of his dangerous thoughts ! Maybe a treatment could have helped.

@@belliotrungy9107 I was thinking maybe he found something about neuroscience that sent him over the edge, going into an abyss of strange drugs and basically formatting his brain from being able to form rational thoughts. Wouldn't surprise me if he had an informant-like character to drive him in the direction he went.

Lmao if he was Canadian he would be out with a clean bill of health, name change with full anonymity, and put up in a place that tax payers pay for. He and Vince Li would be roommates. Our justice system is an absolute joke

Hi, I know this is a year old comment, sorry, but I just wanted to acknowledge how insightful and thought-provoking it is. Thank you for choosing to share your perspective on it as it differs with Dr. Grande. I hope you’re doing well!

I understand the impulse toward that judicial call, but unless it goes along with a lifelong parole and therapeutic treatment requirement, I think it's extremely unwise.

TUCK - Hidden Values I feel it’s a correct call, particularly in the Jamie Bulger case. The two perpetrators would have gotten lynched, had they not been given new identities, such was the public outrage. This cannot be acceptable, even to people to are fundamentally in favour of capital punishment (which I am emphatically not). One of little Jamie’s murderers is back in jail for repeatedly being found in possession of child porn, so there clearly is some monitoring of their behaviour subsequent to release. Mary Bell had the most awful childhood, being used as a sexual prop by her prostitute/dominatrix mother from the age of 4, if I remember correctly. While these children were murderers, they were also victims. They would absolutely have been murdered themselves, had their identities not been concealed, therefore turning somebody else into a murderer. Awful all around.

One child murderer was age 6. She got treatment and supposedly grew up to be an ok mother.

it derives from boredom and inbound thinking, that you cant go beyond the barrier of existence, that you are within bounds of the universe and dont know what's outside that dimension and that's why he thinks everything is meaningless because he cant confirm the existence of a greater reality.

meh

Maybe. I just think there was a lot more going on with him than ASD and even delusions. He was bad to the bone lol, probably a dark triad personality. I'm autistic as well and saying I don't participate in society is a huge understatement and while I do have concerns about the point of existence, I don't wish for others to suffer. I do believe we are no more important than other sentient beings but I don't even enjoy killing insects.

Wouldn't mind seeing Holmes dead, though. People like him only exist to make existence even more miserable. Never really understood the logic of some folks who say "if you kill even someone lie Ted Bundy, you're acting just like him!!!" No. I'm not lol He's a sadist.

I think he also had ASD beside the other issues. My son has ASD

Typically people that say “thoughts of killing people” might be more full blown APDs and have other personality traits that are very different from James Holmes

We all have bad thoughts

Proof that nobody knows shit. They just guess.

Thing is, a lot of people have those types of fantasies, but nonetheless, that's not something to push aside, even if the individual would never hurt anyone.

it's human nature to think violent thoughts, none of us are little angels. they're called intrusive thoughts. they are thoughts, they are not concerning to psychologists/psychiatrists until you start telling them that you are indeed going to kill someone (or yourself) or you are planning to.

TTC Doug there is enough YouToob content on the Supreme Gentleman.

@@seka1986 yeah but no one mentions the fact he had social anxiety disorder. It's mentioned in his manifesto but most people don't bring that up for why he couldn't introduce himself to women. most people just think he was too narcissistic to introduce himself and just sat around waiting for women to introduce themselves to him.

@@vice2versa but that's totally why it happened. Not saying he didn't have social anxiety, but he legit was too far up his own ass to apply himself in that department, despite him being eaten alive by his unfulfilled need for female adoration. I do agree that he'd be an interesting subject for the good doctor here, though.

@@mc_zittrer8793 no in his manifesto, he actually made some attempts to put himself out there. He tried saying hi to a girl walking past him one time, thats the only courage he was able to muster before retreating back into his shell. It's just when you have social anxiety, disorder, it comes across like you are not trying but your brains high level inhibitions stop you from really being able to do anything about it. normal people take their self expression for granted but someone like him usually end up virgins for a very long time and are unable to express themselves in a healthy manner. they just come across as shy and aloof or at worse awkward. Elliot hated being seen that way and i don't blame him because I hate being seen that way.. I will say that his ego is big and his inability to put himself out there and get a girlfriend stung way worse for him than the average person which is why he took that as more of an insult than your average guy that doesn't have much luck with women. For elliot, the idea of commiting acts of violence came far easier to him due to the level of anger and envy in his heart.

Narcissism is what you all society are infected with

Oh, he offers us plenty of proof of that in every video.... 😉

@@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 I know the little rascal in him pops up every once in a while

....a big stinker imo. But often he tries to be kind.

@@Able_Hotel42 More lately, it seems. It's cracking me up.... ☻

Not diagnosing Dr. G- only speculating on what could be going on in a situation like his...

@@kurtlamprecht93 Hey man let him express his achievement

@@kurtlamprecht93 I bet you are dealing with social inadequacy hence your standoffishness and passive aggressiveness. I'd bet you may even relate to James Holmes in some ways. And that's absolutely okay! We all have a little social anxiety

@@kurtlamprecht93 no offense but I don't care what your perception of what okay is

I took one speech class, and I have severe anxiety too, unfortunately it didn’t help me. After the class was done, the teacher offered remarks and comments to each student aloud, and I still remember what he told me because I thought it was odd, and it was also said in front of everyone which made me uncomfortable because I felt like I was outed out. He said that as soon as I went up there it’s like I would flip a switch. I rarely interacted with people in class, because I was always anxious, and I never did quite enjoy talking to people. I still don’t, but I care deeply for others, and I wish I had the ability to be myself around others.

James Holmes no doubt needed thorough, intense and competent psychiatric care. I was not surprised that James pleaded Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity to avoid being sentenced to death for his crime because Colorado was still a Death Penalty state in 2012. A lot of people disagree with the assertion that James was insane and knew his actions were wrong. They cite the amount of planning James put into the attack on the Century 16 Movie Theater and that he rigged his apartment with numerous boobytrap explosive devices to kill the police officers who searched his apartment for evidence and the tenants unfortunate enough to still be in the building. Others believe that James was very much insane and couldn't know that his actions were wrong. They cite his history of mental health issues and numerous therapy sessions with his psychiatrist Dr. Lynne Fenton.

Maybe the institutionalizing stopped because disabled people got rights and then the government has to pay for dignified (ish) conditions in those institutions. Maybe that.

That's actually a very interesting point in law in states where access to guns are so unrestricted, based on "Rights" but ignoring the counter balance that you don't want people out of control of their own minds to be able to pack six thousand rounds of auto. ammo.

GetMeThere1 tell us more about your neighbor who was taken away.

Alia yeah good point, there just isn’t enough butter to spread.

Dwight st. john “based” on rights? The right to bear arms is a constitutional RIGHT. How “based” is that??? 😜

And political science majors.

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And most of them fail it.

Ha love it!!!

That class doesn't alleviate homicidal thinking, it's actually the lobotomy you get at graduation that does it. Source: I was a business major.

From what I understand James Holmes did not use drugs or alcohol. While I was not surprised that he didn't get the Death Penalty even though Colorado was still a Death Penalty state; I think that the sentence was reasonable under the circumstances. James had pleaded Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity to avoid being sentenced to death.

I have be BPD. We got messed up as/after toddlers, schizoids didn't even make it that far... they have a difficult time distinguishing inner and outter reality ie earliest infancy...sort of like we do in the realm of relationships us/them. AHA!!! I just heard the Doctor said Schizoid!!! LOL Five years of studying this stuff online many of the freakiest weirdest killers are schizoids...not psychopaths who usually do it for a reason of value or personal revenge. Schizoids are like psychopaths without the charming, logic, crazy, fun n sexy side that sucks people in.

So why didn't your dad help him if he noticed that about him? Your brother was probably so frustrated. 😞

I had a good friend who was a felon. He was not allowed to have firearms. He got one from someone selling them illegally. His brother found him dead. If someone wants a gun, they will get it no matter what the law says.

@@thorndriscoll4577 I dont know. No one in my family handled my brother properly. I was the youngest for 15 years, and since I had mental health issues myself no one really listened to me. A lot of my bpd was born out of my brother beating me and trying to kill me. My mother preferred my brother over me and after I was beaten she would call the cops, tell them I was suicidal, and the cops would take ME away in cuffs for a 51/50, even if I had bruises on me. He was 7 years older than me and started beating me when he was 19, so it was always an adult beating a girl. I feel like I was the only one who saw his true insanity. Instead of getting my brother the proper help they took me to a psych who diagnosed me bipolar and put me on 8 high dosage antipsychotics and antidepressants. I still remember my mom telling my psychiatrist, "Jay (me) sometimes forgets things, and (my brother) would never lie." As I sat there with a giant black eye he had given me. My brother never saw a psychiatrist as an adult and had very minimal therapy as an adolescent. He used a lot of psychedelics to try and fix himself. He didn't understand how to interact with people. I feel like, in retrospect, he may have been on the spectrum. Overall, my family, police officers, and psych professionals continually ignored his violent behavior and constant suicide threats, right up until he blew his brains out early one morning on an Arizona freeway. Im studying psych. I have a saying I came up with: "Some people fall through the cracks, others were pushed through." The system is awful and corrupt. He almost strangled me to death when I was 16, repeating "I can kill you whenever I want." Well, I'm alive and he's not. I carry a little urn with his ashes everywhere with me. Im not going to let more people be pushed through the cracks.

@@derbykitty666 the issue I have was how easily he obtained one. The one he shot himself with was bought after my dad took away his other one after a night of threatening to commit suicide on Facebook. It would have been much more difficult if someone, ONE FUCKING PERSON, alerted the authorities about his breakdowns. Its ironic, my family have always been trigger happy with calling 51/50s on me if I even hinted at being suicidal, but not one call was made for the violent family member who has threatened to murder people in the past and owned a firearm.

See immature people like u cause people like him to think the way he does.

@@thorndriscoll4577 Pff

Oh, JETT!!!

@Jet Screamer, 😂😂😂😂

Jet Screamer lol good one

Ok so basically Pee pee poo poo

Personality is set by age 3, so a change at the age 11 it would be that a trauma(brain/psy) or illness occurred.

I was introverted from a very young age per my mom. It's just who I am. I would be really concerned if one of my stepsons suddenly changed personality type and would get them into therapy immediately. Their future happiness is way too important to me.

Introversion/extrovertion is a spectrum...we usually have a preference and lean to one side, but we can use our other function when we need to.. The personality forms through different developmental stages of childhood all the way up to around 18(I think around 22 lol) years old..nature vs nurture. Children can also not develop cognitive skills during those stages when they need to and the the right coping skills to deal with different stressors in their lives because parents don't teach them(they never were taught themselves, etc.).Trauma/stressors can effect one's personilty in different ways. Personlity is a huge subject you can look at it from Carl Jungs ideas or by the DSM etc.. Everything has to do with our nervous system and when it breaks and one sits in a negative memory, you repeat that meory as if it is the present....so let's say someone is sad and then they just sit in sadness for such a long period of time...this sadness then turns into anger, ans sit in anger for too long, then it becomes bitterness. After this is when one's negative thoughts/memories can alter one's personilty...

@@smeggerssmeghead3100 Not true, liar.

It seems to me they should've pursued that a lot earlier.

@@cynthiaallen9225 I absolutely agree!

I agree. I don't think morality is a useful framework for understanding tragedies like this. I think we can all agree this is "wrong" by the standards of our society, but that fact doesn't explain anything or provide any solution, or resolution, besides possible catharsis through retribution. This isn't theft, or even assault, this goes beyond any of the moral lessons we were taught as children. Something has to go very wrong for someone to get to this point, whether psychologically or organically, and being/becoming "evil" is a vacuous, low-resolution way of understanding that process. Does it make sense to say, "I'm a good person; he's a bad person," when I never dealt with a lifelong compulsion toward violence? I sure as hell can't remember facing a moral dilemma in which I (thankfully!) decided to follow my pastor's advice and _not_ commit mass murder. I'm not saying he's innocent, or that he should be pitied, I just mean to say that this is a tragedy for all involved and attempting to apply simple, moralistic labels to these events will only obfuscate things further. Holmes should've received serious psychologically counselling and whatever other treatment deemed necessary, but for whatever reasons, the symptoms and self-reporting were ignored by the mental health professionals with which he had contact.

In my point of view we are all part of society. We all end up hurting someone and start a chain or be inside the chain itself.

From the quotes of his reasoning, it sounds to me that one of his motivations was the certainty that there will be media coverage of his mass shooting, but I dunno.

I was in and out of psyc wards all last year for panic and suicide. I even spent 3 months in a extended stay one (the place you go before they send you to the state hospital for a long time). They don't do shit. The doctors give you antidepressants and talk to you for like 5 mins. They have bs classes about goals and managing anxiety and depression. Most stays are 3-7 days then they kick you out. Truth is humans in general don't really understand the human brain. It's a crap shoot.

we live in a fallen world and there’s no way around these problems, throughout all history it has been the same after adam and eve sinned, and as much as we think we have got figured out it’s not changing until this world is not hear anymore.

Good point. Usually, this is overlooked, yet it's another factor, among many, of what makes one what they are.

I agree. It is unfortunate though. I'm thinking if society wasn't so reactive, he could've had a fighting chance if intervention took place when he started displaying unusual behavior at 10.

They said his mother had a c section

It may not even be his real Mother. If you watch the trial, there is a small part where a woman is found in contempt of court for an outburst that had some disturbing information alleging she is the mother and for them not to put the death penalty on the table for her son and that their whole family is FBI and she had Holmes taken off her and grew up with his current family.

@@fenderstratADHD I was a C-section baby and I've *never* murdered anyone or have thought about killing. So perhaps there were complications.

The gun jammed and he couldn't clear it! This probably made him want a redo, so he was looking to save the video-game and start over! since he was in an alternate state of mind he used for gaming. I wonder what James Holnes impression of Columbine killers was? Did he idolize them? He was 13 when they attacked their school, did he wish he could have been there, was he competing with them? I would like to hear from Dr Grande about the parents, seems like they missed an opportunity to shape this kids mind and habits (I'm not trying to blame, video games were new and more violent than necessary back then, there's more composure in violent games today). Specifically when he returned from college and did nothing, they suggested he get a PHD? When they obviously should have had him evaluated, and at the least let him know they cared?? Seems like the parent trying to be open to anything he wanted to do, left him without roots, without meaning, without real meaningful structure in his life! He could have used his life to help others, instead he lived a fantasy.

@Old Iron I'd say you're pretty on point.

Old Iron There are certainly many unobservant parents but it is also true that as troubled teens we tend to hide a lot of our troubles from our loved ones as well. I struggled throughout the entirety of my teens with severe peer abuse and ostracization at school - to the point that both my mental and physical health collapsed at age 18 leaving me permanently disabled (as in myriad chronic health issues like Fibromyalgia, CFS, IBS, myofascial pain syndrome, severe sleep disorders, severe chronic pain plus C-PTSD and AvPD, just to name a few of the issues the abuse caused) - but my parents had no idea how unhappy, troubled, and depressed I was as a teen as I became very good at wearing masks when around others to project an appearance of absolute normalcy, complete with a smile. It wasn’t until my late 40s that I ever shared with my parents the reason why my health totally collapsed at 18 years and 5 months just before I graduated high school, though I still hesitate to tell them anything more than the most superficial details as I really don’t want them to blame themselves nor do I really wish to dredge up some of the problems within my family during those years (it was a stressful period at home with limited abuse and benign neglect, the usual getting too caught up in one’s career, but it was the years of severe peer abuse that did the real damage). Of course, last year was the start of a very bad year as all the memories of that past abuse started bubbling up after decades of burying those memories until they could eventually be buried no deeper coupled with the decades of extraordinary loneliness that comes with AvPD when you can not bear to spend much time around others, trust nobody whatsoever, have no close friends, and the only romantic relationship I ever had was nearly 30 years ago with a former close friend that proved extraordinarily violent (she was an undiagnosed Borderline and also a victim of abuse, but not an evil person as so many choose to see in Borderlines) and destroyed the last of what was left of my ability to trust others (it was only 3 months ago that I finally made my first new close friend in nearly 30 years). Things had gotten to the point that I typically spent 23-1/2 hours each day entirely alone, reading, watching TV/RU-vid, or engaged in my hobbies, and usually only left the house a few times each month for either my doctor appointments or to shop for whatever items I needed but could order online (including food and medication) - it was just too painful and stressful to be around others for any length of time (it still is very difficult to be around others for long). Yet I was very good at hiding all of this from those who knew me as I excel at projecting an air of normalcy when around others including friendly compliments of others as I hate for anyone to feel unseen and unacknowledged the way I have felt for so much of my life and people believe that mask to be my true self. Even when my anxiety from C-PTSD and AvPD was at its absolute worst in public (such as when public speaking) I could still effectively hide how I felt from everyone through shear willpower so long as they did not recognize my faster pace of talking or flushing for the anxiety that it really was (and remarkably few ever noticed those few cues I could not always hide). I guess my point being that there is a reason why so many families and even close friends and confidants are often taken by surprise when their child, family member, or friend commits suicide or some other terrible act during a psychotic break or moment of weakness as we are both very good at hiding our feelings and emotions from those we seek to protect or fit in around and that often couples with most other people’s unconscious desire to believe that all is well with those they love or care about, often causing them to miss the more subtle signs that are much more difficult to hide and less overt. And then, of course, there are those families who will ignore such signs no matter how in their face it is. Like your experience I had a cousin a few years younger than I whom I grew up with and who stole from both myself and my grandparents and was actually caught in the act of trying to trade in my grandfather’s old coin collection by a banker that was good friend# with my grandmother (my grandmother being one of those people who seem to know absolutely everyone in a small town). My aunt and uncle reluctantly acknowledged that he stole “a bit” from my grandparents but never could understand why I was angry with him for years for the many tools he stole from me because in their mind he didn’t steal anything since he was not caught red-handed...it was just a coincidence that all the tools that I had loaned to his brother for his project car had miraculously gone missing, as well as several hundred dollars in cash from my bedroom, on the exact same day that my grandparent’s property was also stolen and that this cousin had been living with all of us at the time (I lived on a farm, all our homes were connected with common property lines). They never could accept that I should have any reason to be angry with him for stealing from me since he wasn’t caught red-handed with my property (all of this was for drugs, as one may expect)...in their mind he did no wrong against me. Parents self deceive themselves a lot as nobody likes to believe that they failed as a parent or that their child has turned out badly or troubled. Cognitive dissonance runs deep in humanity!

@@ethanpoole3443 - jesus christ dude nobody is going to read all that. Lay off the meth.

@@davidabest7195 XD Even if few people will, I think it's ok to vent some feelings from time to time like this. But You are right it is long as hell

The world needs more people who can have empathy for perpetrators, especially in proportion to their experiences of trauma and victimhood. Many folks think it's a "zero-sum" game -- that any empathy for perpetrators necessarily takes away from that for victims. It's not the case; all victims need support for healing and recovery, both those who go on to perpetrate against others in spectacular ways, and those who don't. Good for you. 😉🙏

Same as the kid from LA who shot up his school Eliot Rogers I think? Eliot something.. his father was a lowlife sob director who treated his kids like a $8 extra he wish he'd never hired to be on set. His kid was in major pain while his father flew around the world blowing million interviewing people about GOD!!!

Emotional neglect is what that sounds like to me. It can be devastating even to a “normal” child.

@@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 I've developed this POV after becoming a high school Special Education teacher in NYC. Every characteristic or undesirable act a teen has or does is due to a reason(s). I feel so lucky to perceive this and still be able to care deeply about the person. It's my responsibility to acknowledge their value and preciousness, even if they did something 'bad". Love the kid but not the behavior. My colleagues don't do this.

I've always felt a little sorry for him, I could never put my finger on why though... Alot of killers just seem so empty and uncaring but he just seems... Lost. Idk obviously what he did was deplorable but when someone has obvious mental health problems I have to feel a little sorry for the person.

@@michaelfetter8738 dude what, not everything is a conspiracy. Pizzagate is real but people try to make everything out to be a conspiracy and it takes away from the real ones

@@erri4433 oh ok i guess youre correct to dismiss what you dont know about, thanks for correcting me golly 👍

@@erri4433LOL lady.

@@mackhomie6 Going LOL adds nothing. You’re just mad because you sub conspiracies for a real hobby.

@@erri4433 not even close. I'm laughing at you for having the insight to realize not everything is a conspiracy but simultaneously falling for the dumbest one of them all