James O'Brien clashes with Brexiter saying move on from the vote | LBC 

You'll often hear a similar tactic deployed when someone knows they're losing an argument - they repeat what they perceive to be the least controversial part of the drivel they're talking, followed by "end of".

Spot on

Yep….move on move on, nothing to see here.

People do need to move brexit it happened it may not be what people expected but I’d still vote yes for it they offered it again.

@@SirKilot why would you vote yes again given the choice when Brexit has made so many things worse?

Brexit is fine

@@hufclufc Yeah for sure. I don't see James any worse off after Brexit. He's just playing dog in the manger.

@@jameshogan6142 Even though James may not *seem* that much worse off after Brexit (I don't know his story), does that mean that there aren't thousand of other people (maybe hundreds of thousands) that are objectively worse off due to Brexit?

More likely, he didn't listen to both sides of the argument before casting his vote.

@@hufclufcwrong, but pop off

Indeed, it is not our job to assuage their misgivings about a poor decision, namely, vote for Brexit, by not talking about it or mentioning it. It would be like ignoring the elephant in the room.

Agreed. James should learn to lump it even if he doesn't like it.

@@jameshogan6142 he does accept it but does not respect it which is perfectly reasonable

@@theRab1609 Fair enough but if he respects democracy he should respect the will of the majority. I bet James would be the first to upbraid anyone who tried to overturn the vote had the remain side won.

@@jameshogan6142 sorry but I disagree completely and think your argument is irrelevant anyway, we are talking about what happened not your fictional beliefs

Life is full of hurt. The critical question is whether you pick yourself up and move on or spend the rest of your life whinging about it.

Only the snowflakes had hurt feelings. The rest of the country have got on with life.

@@percy832 how come every time a conservative is faced with facts, they come back with empty bs excuses that clearly show they’re clueless idiots who made a huge mistake, know it, and are just trying to live with it?

@@piptexas1967 sure, buddy. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

@@neosapien247The only fact that matters is that Brexit happened. Move on.

People move on when they find they talking to a brick wall

spot on. basically sanctimonious hypocrites

@@dannybruff then that brick wall must be reduced to rubble

Always!

what a plonker

The crux of it right here. No one wants to admit they made a mistake.

I just wrote the same. Assuming you and I didn’t vote leave in 2016.

Because he is not wrong.

Because we are right

@@fundyden4771 was wrong.

It’s superiority they have intertwined patriotism with supremacy

They need Germany because it economically carries them.

@@billuk1413 Weren't we told that we were the ones economically carrying the EU? It's Germany now, is it? They'll be next to leave the EU then, right?

@@venusfooltrap7371 No the EU was created by french intellectuals to stop the Germans trashing them a third time in another war. Hitlers vision for Germany was basically the EU with Germany as its power house.

And we,the Germans, will continue to put our financial interests over the overall health of the EU, sorry

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Exactly.

Exactly.

The condescending illiberal - James O'Brien

Actions have consequences.

I wouldn't hold SA up as an example.

Lol the country didn't heal. Most of the people in the oppressor demographic are very right wing. Just meet one of them online and ask them about racial inequalities in the country. They often even say they miss aparthied and it was better right in our faces.

@@netomaape2557 The outcome does not invalidate the process. Truth and reconciliation is a worthwhile goal but one which our government couldn't live with.

And they are still working on that. But they had only 27 years to mend everything. I guess it will take them another 200 or 300 years mate.

@@wolfgangpreier9160 probably about as long as it will take us to find a brexit benefit

BBC and saville/harris

@@ragingbullalf5790 and all the rest...

Next time you receive a speeding ticket, send it return with the statement that "we should move on".

I also get told a lot that we should move on from slavery and that should look forward not backward. Let's get that one on the list of things we shouldn't move on from too

​@@kurthenderson It's often a response to people using it as some kind of statement about the modern world, instead of an important historical lesson to learn from.

Exactly, the best examples - the utterly useless John Major signing the so-called Maastricht Treaty catapulting the UK into a political superstate, with no public consultation, no referendum, no questions asked. Then along comes Blair, promising a the British public an EU referendum, and in true Blair fashion he reneged on that promise.

@@jasonkingshott2971I think you’ve misunderstood both what the Maastricht Treaty was, and also to what extent the UK was allowed to pick and choose what it signed up to.

So many Bots that are pre programmed to just put up the same "look at me I'm smart" quotes over and over again.. of it's not twain it's Orwell.. f change the record bots, getting so easy to see through now

@@happyspaceinvader508 It was and as a result, toxic, and for many democrats in the UK illegal as the British electorate never democratically authorised it. That also applies to the so-called Lisbon Treaty when Blair and his cronies promised the UK a referendum then, in true Blair fashion he reneged on that promise. The EU dictatorship had plenty of opportunities to change it's ways, it didn't and we all know what happened next. So people can thank, Major, Blair/Brown and the unelected EU leader Mein Fuhrer Merkel for what happened.

@@jasonkingshott2971 I bet you can't explain how the EU is a dictatorship given that all decisions are taken only and exclusively by directly elected politicians.

Just another mindless Tory drone.

Why you mean you don't understand the presenter was a hateful ignorant man who couldn't be more wrong all the remain predictions were nothing close to reality you keep kicking the bucket down the street hopeing to be right but you keep getting proven wrong 5 years now reality is it's been great far less destructive than predicted and the benefits are rolling in

@@davidevans3223 lol you pesky scamp and your vivid imagination!!

@@musitecture.vienna join the lib dems like the other remoaners lol you only need another 17 million and you'll have a chance

@@davidevans3223 lol I’m a true remainer: I stayed living in the EU (Austria) after Brexit. Better than the doom and gloom of GB under these charlatans and clowns…

"works in finance" - an oxymoron, surely?

He doesn't work in finance, he was trying to sound knowledgeable, he is probably on the dole.

Used car finance at best...

Great gag. Well done gaggy.

"I work in finance. So anyway, financial institutions and their forecasts, what do they know, amirite?" ...actually, you know what, if people who work in finance are actually like him, that's accidentally a solid point. Though luckily since he didn't give a specific job he has, "I work in finance" probably means he's taking people's moneys and putting them in his register as he rings them up a Tesco's

Common derailing tactic called "tone-policing". It's about refocusing from the facts the employer of the technique can't dispute to their feelings about how you presented those realities, because "feelings" are entirely subjective and immune from being proven factually incorrect. It's usually accompanied by a thick, delicious wedge of entitlement in the "how dare you tell me things I find uncomfortable" vein. These are the sort who really think that if they're upset enough about dying in a collision, the brick wall they've driven into will respect their tantrum by ceasing to exist. One of the few nice things about dishonest people is that they're rarely creative. Just about any standard list of logical fallacies will show you every one of their "arguments" before they've even opened their mouths.

There is no mistake. Get over it FFS.

@@hufclufc Dave, you won - get over it FFS!

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Your brainwashed too like brainless O'Brien

Ignore the problem and it will all go away

It's a emotional and a moral problem with people like Karl. His ego won't let him accept the reality that he was hoodwinked. Instead, of accepting that he comes in here crying and demanding "respect". He's lost his self-respect because he can't handle the truth. He works in Finance but couldn't be arsed to fact check, and then wants to ignore the facts. Carl lives in LaLa Land.

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@@BigHenFor could not put it any better mate I see it every day some I know voted out can't look me in the eye I say I was wrong I now ignore them

"We got to listen to both sides of the argument, and we all accept they were not completely truthful" One side said it would be better. One side said it would be worse. So Carl voted for the "it will be better" side knowing that it was a lie, asking the other side to accept the situation, so the healing can start and respect him for it. INSANE!

@@BigHenFor Carl probably thinks that a common currency for 19 countries with very different economies will never work, and of course he is 100% right.😁

Not wrong, loving Brexit my hourly rate is going through the roof also got an extra £1.75 an hour from 11/10/21 till 7/1/22. Also getting £21 an hour overtime rate so in my eyes it’s great.

A fire that the Caller started.

And he's the one who started the fire.

Ppl are oblivious to the insidious, its the GREAT RESET that WILL bring our living standards on par with the Chinese bumpkin under the guise of climate change, carbon neutral/zero. However the condescending illiberal - James O'Brian wants us to believe the damaged economy, hgv drivers, insufficient nhs staff etc.... is due to Brexit. Ignore the bank bailout of 2008, ignore the austerity, ignore the green agenda/climate change/carbon neutral/overpopulation and aging EU agenda, ignore the EU cartel and subsidies/directive diktats, protectionism, subsidies etc. In the end you'll look in the mirror and say...........Cull'd you believe it !

@@SedriqMiers I already live a bumpkin zero life under the chinese zodiac. Those people left right and center have nothing on me. I reset at least twice a day and I don't need bailouts. Everytime I look in the mirror it's my reflection that looks at me and says: "That'll do pig, that'll do." TAKE THAT BIG BROTHER CORPORATION GOVERNMENT!!!!!

@@SedriqMiers Overpopulation and a labor shortage. How does that work?

Except it isn't a disaster.

@@MrsZambezi can u quantify that statement ? I'm refurbishing my house and a cashier at B&Q pointed out six items in 10 that have double in price since Brexit due to those items originating in Europe He did this all if his own design here is one of those items B&Q furniture tops was £13, now £23 due to import costs. Or Perhaps you're not really paying attention?

@@sugarsaint Brexiteers could be eating their own faeces due to Brexit, and they'll just try to convince you it's chocolate

@@sugarsaint as it has in spain yet were still in the eu.

@@vonlane3678 I can't Explain your Spanish rise in costs, the items I'm referring to have been directly effected by Brexit due to the addition of import taxes at Customs & additional import VAT.

What are you talking about Brian 😂😂😂

I see the right wing idiots are out in force. Adam who displays his racism. Ben who agrees with Adam's racism but isn't quite brave enough to openly display it himself and Aaron who is obviously not quite bright enough to understand a simple concept.

​@@robertandrew5768 Hahaha idiot! I see all the right wing bots are in full employment tonight. I'm not the one that was fooled into voting against my own interests.

Well said indeed!

@@brianalmeida1964 why brave?

i voted to stay in europe i didnt know what was going to happen

@@davidhipwell5005 But remainers highlighted what would happen, but was shouted down as project fear.

@@davidhipwell5005 that was the obvious and correct decision. It's foolish to vote for something you neither know nor understand the impact of

@@davidhipwell5005 I'm betting you didn't vote for what you claim either. You lot can't stop lying for one second.

@@davidhipwell5005 Sure you did

It is slightly more complicated than that...Don't forget that there were a lot of old guard socialists like Corbyn (who I otherwise tended to agree with on most things unlike James), who were stuck in the 70's with their mistrust of the EU.

In the 1840-1850's. This was the Know Nothings. When it comes to the xenophobia, etc. (the US wise)

​@@22wabbit I disagree, I think he interrupts the person he's interviewing when they attempt to answer a different question than the one that was asked. I wish more interviewers would be firmer with politicians like this. I also think any elected official should be fined for evading answering a legitimate question in the public's interest

@@22wabbit Literally all he does is not allow them to wriggle out of answering the question by going off on an unrelated tangent lol

he’s legit asking questions over and over bc the Brexiter did not answer his questions so he repeated it

I work in finance and I know a number of people who voted leave. It's mind blowing. I knew how much we trade with the EEA and how easy that was by being in the EU, and now we have created a situation voluntarily in which EEA trade is now like wading through treacle. That's taking back control that.

@@davidthomas9165 Tell me about it. I'm doing a product demo in Holland week after next and I have to fill in and pay for a carnet just to take the gear over there for a day. We've had to bring in a consultant just to send products to Germany for resale. It's a nightmare!!!

At least the Brexit-induced contraction in UK financial services might result in a cull of the more... 'challenged' elements of the payroll?

Me: well said Carl.

He's been hearing the word sovereignty for 5 years.

@@nick1065 he he.... what is sovereignty?

@@beniteztheconman Look it up matey.

@@nick1065 So having old etonians and their banker owners doing whatever they like....is sovereignty? The EU offered the poor average Brit some protection against the uber rich dictators who rule the US and the UK. Race to the bottom nlw for brexit voters.

It's just very very hard to admit for ppl. Coming to terms with being wrong is sometimes almost spiritual because of what it takes to overcome misplaced pride in belief.

@@cravinghibiscus7901 shall I tell you why? Because talking to this numpty james who just insults and belittles does not make you want a decent conversation . If he were more approachable he would have a better conversation. It's just rude

That's all James does, has no sense in having a decent conversation.

OooooH nasty pasty

This sounds so much like Trumpests believe the US election stolen and Trump will be reinstated in August...October... oh wait I think they've moved that goalpost too December 😞.

@@kellen5545 Lol

Toxic optimism

Because the question is not a valid one. Nobody promised you that your life would be instantly better...it's a fking nonsense to frame a question the way he did.

@@philip851 yes but the economic forecasts have shown us that even in the long run our economic state will be twice as worse as what COVID has put us in...heanse why James asked the question of how the callers view of saying Brexit will improve the lives of his family has any evidence to it...and it doesn't

James asked a simple question, the person on the other end of the call had no constructive answer.

@@retrojoes9610 No Brexit voter believed that it would instantly make your life better...the question is a lefties strawman. Long-term forecasts- over the long run? It defies common sense if you actually spend 5 mins thinking about it. If things stay as they are the day after we left..omg it's bad...but things can't stay as they are and who knows the future for the EU economy? We have left the EU, we won't be rejoining and I'm not sure they'd want us...so get on with it.

@@philip851 BREXIT proponents claimed that the UK held all the cards and would give the UK everything it wanted. They claimed that new trade deals would be easy and would always benefit Britain. They even projected a wonderful future once British fishermen controlled the waters. No official, early on, admitted that hardship and deprivation would descend in the future. Worse, the government has been terrible at dealing with the problem, and instead now push fantasies of possible economic recovery in some fabled distant future.

He cleans the windows in a bank......that’s the closest that dribbling imbecile comes to working in finance 😂😂

And I assume from your expertise in banking that you also predicted the housing market crash, having a pre disposed opposition to something that comes to fruition doesn't make you an expert unfortunately.

@@Jameslawrencehaardy 1. I never said I was an expert. I provided by background details for context. You draw your own conclusion, which you obviously have. 2. Housing markets are subject to economic cycles. Suggest you read up on economic cycles James.

@@alanbatty3825 I drew my conclusion from your comment? You said that your 30 years in banking allowed you too see how bad this would be, given that statement then you should be able too predict most economic events? Which leads too saying something is going to happen which then comes too fruition doesn't make you an expert - you just won a coin flip 50/50. I understand the housing market, probably better than yourself. I've worked for the biggest mortgage network in the UK for 10 years. It's also quite tiring to see people blame current economic issues purely on brexit asif these issues are being seen comparatively across the world. Why would we be so fortunate to prosper economically within the EU if currently if we stayed when you're not seeing that trend in other EU countries.

@@Jameslawrencehaardy Oh right, you've been mortgage networking for 10 years, so you only know a low interest-rate, high liquidity environment. As against my 30 + years, working through and surviving volatile interest rates, lenders who did not want to lend and perspective borrowers too frightened to borrow with interest rates doubling in the same day, and base rate at nearly 16+%. You have a valid view friend, but you also, obviously suffer from normalcy bias, as well as maybe a touch of Dunning-Kruger as well. So again, with respect, I suggest you do some reading before you apply to join the big boy's club.

And Scotland, Wales and NI are doing fine?

@@hearditman Well, hopefully we in Scotland will get another independence referendum, vote to leave the UK and rejoin the EU - just saying!

@@richardpierpoint1415 Here's hoping. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

@@richardpierpoint1415 you've had it.

@@gary8306 there was a vote to join the EU...

Whenever there's a mass shooting in the U.S., suddenly we hear "this is not the time to politicize this tragedy with calls to restrict gun ownership. It's a time for healing. Our thoughts and prayers [but not actions] are with those who've lost loved ones"

@@FelipeElLocito The Land of the Deluded.

What does America have to do with brexit?

@@garyh183 beside commerce not a whole lot. But really wasn’t the point of my comment.

@@flhiker sorry if I have misunderstood. I just don't see how it relates to the topic at hand, and it makes your comment just seem like it comes from out of knowhere. If a discussion is being had about say petrol shortages in the UK, saying things are worse in Venezuela doesn't really add much to the discussion.

Greed, in other words?

Sovereignty is like your soul, without it you're worthless.

@@durhamfox5271 Id rather have more money and a secure job . You ?

@@hammerqos No

@@durhamfox5271 Do you think your Tory masters would make personal sacrificies for this sovereignty thingy ?

They were never going to happen unfortunately. They couldn’t happen. They were all lies. We were screaming out that this is what would actually happen but no one seemed to care. It’s been a depressing 5 years, let me tell you.

If the caller had been willing to say this his day would have gone much better. There is no shame in making a mistake, just in denying it. May all our leaders find wisdom.

@@finnmcool2 Exactly. We’ve all made mistakes... Some people find it difficult to admit it apparently.

Why did you vote leave? Serious question...

No one fought to stay in.

You seen the mess the EU has sailed into with Poland?

@@davedavid2277 How dare they try to compete with our mess. Don't they know who we are?

@@davedavid2277 We're not in the EU any more, @DaveDavid. Move on.

They're really desperate now. Searching for short term problems within EU countries to say 'See? We were right'. Criticising France for doing exactly what they wanted Britain to do.

@@Neil070 Moved on in September 2016. Just waiting upon others to do the same thing.

And James is the perfect example of a petulant child

@@iceman9646 If you can find a child who argues with the directness and intellectual honesty that James just displayed, that kid is going places. Your attempt at insult without example however portrays you to be as irrational, if not more so, as the caller.

@@iceman9646 were you the fool that rang in? 🤣🤣

How dare you! He's in finance he'll have you know! Harumph! ;)

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They dare not acknowledge their stupidity nor ignorance!!!

It's the tory way. 'Move along, nothing to see here, can't we just move on.

There won’t be a healing ever, this problem can only be dealt with a Tony Blair kneading the Labour Party and shutting the gammons down. There’s is no coming together ever

Well said!

As important as acknowledgement of the problem is accepting that it has caused real harm, and making amends. They don't want healing. 'Moving on' to them is merely a demand for meek acquiescence. For all their bleating about respecting democracy you'd think they'd understand that democracy doesn't end at the ballot box (especially since they lost the original vote and wouldn't shut up about it for 30 years), and the people who recognise what a terrible idea Brexit is are entirely within their rights and the spirit of democracy to fight to correct it.

At the same time, the same people never "move on" from WW2.

@@olmostgudinaf8100 or the days of “Empire.”

No he's just still whinging it's what remoaners do it's terminal I'm afraid but don't worry the majority don't care

@@dogsteeth7400 asking questions is moaning?

Desperate words of a coward who would rather tuck tail and obey the nazis in Brussels.

@@The_Phoenix_Saga …. I was here earlier and you wouldn’t listen due to your racism and fascism. Nothing is more cowardly than failing to accept responsibility for making a big mistake….Huge. I have to go shopping now…. Shame it won’t be for British goods or services …. You’ve destroyed that opportunity for decades…. Own it.

@@georgemcgill9063 “racism and fascism” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

I live in Australia and it is the same here. An average weekly shop up 30% on pre-covid. Petrol up from around $1.25 to $1.85. House prices up 30% in some regions. No wage rises. I have seen how much things are going up in the uk and you have gotten of lighter than us to be fair. We are getting smashed big time.

@@paulwbafc73 cost per litre in UK was $2.70 last week. With most of that wasted subsidising bankers and paying their mates too much for govt contracts in return for bribes… errr party donations.

hate and resentment is pointless. It's like drinking posion and expecting the other person to die. Its been 5 years.

@denise brown • WELL SAID.👏👏👏👏

@@charanjitsidhu4733 thank you 😊

Beautiful phrased.

@@denisebrown2994 YOU ARE WELCOME.🙏

he's still an establishment brownnoser. don't forget giving hancock and raab a chance

@John Stephens Genius OMG your standards must be in the pit.

The problem is that if you phone up and the producer thinks that you have solid answers that are well thought out you won't get on the show. His entire show is a farce. And if someone DOES get past the producer he or she will continually get talked over, interrupted and eventually faded out or cut off.

They surely will. The cancer of separatism is very difficult to stop.

These people? Are you referring to remoaners who tried and failed to break democracy in the uk?

@@dogsteeth7400 i think he was talking about the brexiteers

Absolutely agree

@@dogsteeth7400 It is not the remainers' fault that the UK is sitting in the mess it's sitting in, is it? It is brexit's fault, and Brexit was implemented because of leave voters. So why should remainers apologize for anything? Do you enjoy the state the UK is currently in? Is that what you wanted and expected when you voted to leave?

Do you meed another hankie?

@@durhamfox5271 "meed"

@@MurphyOCP-001 Oh, my bad 🙋🏻‍♂️

Yes, brexit is like a slow puncture.. lots more to come.

@@conor1077 Cry me a river

I agree, but I think your "yet" is wildly optimistic. It's simply not going to happen. These are not people you can convince, because their entire worldview is built on the irrational and unsupported belief in their inherent superiority and the insane entitlement that flows from it. You can't talk these people down. You will have to fight them.

Yep. The U.K. still hasn't fully left the E.U., which is why we're in partial stuck mode. On paper, it says we've left, but in reality we're still following along some E.U. lines. So little benefit of Brexit, and left with the mostly damaging side of it

@@delaney6689 I disagree entirely with this same tired old rhetoric please explain the benefits ?

@@theRab1609 at the moment, I can't think of any benefits in leaving the E.U. Although I'm sure there's a few, but gets so offset by the negative scenarios by leaving. Can anyone?

Except the OBR make financial statements that the budget is based upon. So why are we bothering with a budget then?

@@mustrumridcully3853, projections is based on Government policy as we all know government policy changes with the wind.

@@memory432 You might want to look up exactly what and how it does David - "The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) gives independent and authoritative analysis of the UK’s public finances. OBR is an executive non-departmental public body, sponsored by HM Treasury." Projection is based on fatual information, not "whims". You seem to have a problem with facts and reality.

@@mustrumridcully3853 , you missed the point it is based on government policy at given time government policy changes that changes with the wind , bit like your comments full of it.

@Watchman Of Manasseh The house of lords is unelected. We are getting the worse trade deals that are a net 0 in terms of what we will profit. How is that sovereignity? Pigs being thrown away. Fishermen not fishing. Milk being thrown out. Fruit and veg rotting on fields. How is this benefiting us at all?

@@beepbopboop7727 it’s fascinating how conveniently these people forget that every country in the EU has a veto, that means every single rule was agreed upon. But they’re not really bothered about Scotland or Northern Ireland voting to stay in the EU.

@Watchman Of Manasseh Churchill suggested there should be a United States of Europe… and it’s quite right, Britain is irrelevant on its own, but in a union it’s the second largest economy.

@@phillgornall2296 Churchill also said "If Britain should choose between Europe and the open sea it should choose the open sea" stop assuming he was some pro EU fanatic he certainly was not and I beg to differ the UK can now have it's own independent policy on trade world affairs its not irrelevant at all compared to many smaller European countries who nobody really listens too nor have any influence even within the EU no disrespect.

@@ClannCholmain that is not correct. In the Council of Ministers, most things are decided by Qualified Majority voting

Thanks to Brexit you live in a toilet country with toilet people.

How about the one third who did not vote at all?

Most Brits never felt European let alone wanted to be in it theres nothing wrong with the majority not warning ro be in the EU in my opinion Britain never should have joined since it was controversially dragged in the first place without a vote and the lie about no loss of sovereignty was soon realised that doesn't make the majority of people uniformed xenophobic or thick.

@@charliezz6746 Britain was on the verge of economic collapse when it joined the EEG. It was just after the war. All European nations needed to band together in name of peace and to help eachother rebuild after the devastation that was the second world war. I agree that the EU has grown too big, but the way to change it is from within, not from outside. And that's also not what people voted for. People voted for the one-liners. Or against "the establishment", to send a message to those stuck up politicians in London and Brussels. Or against immigration. Or for the NHS lie on the side of a bus.

Charlie.z obviously You Never engaged brain before posting.

@@MarceldeJong Yeah I accept the EU or EEC as it was known back then was seen as an attractive option especially given the state of the country at the time but that was solely about trade decades before it emerged into what is now a much more powerful EU with a parliament and unelected officials who nobody has ever heard of who make most of the decisions I've also heard the we can change it from within argument which never worked the UK tried for years to change from within and got nowhere another reason for leaving maybe if they had listened more Brexit may never have happened.

you cant reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves into.

Yes, I ad libed a bit😊👍

Brexiter: & Gah! You can see my economic shrinkage! Turns out sovereignty isn't big enough to cover it! & it's cold out here, alone! (That's my excuse)

Brexos

But does that not work the other way too.

@@nickssurplus as in when someones right you don't stop going on about it?? A lot better than being wrong and trying to change the subject isn't it.

@@Michael_Petrou Again I agree. But would that also works the same way. There are of loosers who are very vocal. Remember "not my President" I want another vote on Brexit till I get what I want. I think the Election was rigged so I want a recount "Trump"

@@nickssurplus Yeah I just prefer someone who's been proved right to be the vocal one.

I voted Leave. There has been almost no acceptance of the decision: if the decision had gone the other way, you would expect me to accept it. If you constantly work against the decision that has been made, and don't accept it, you cause division, and undermine the movement forward. A great example is in negotiations. The Eu has been open that part of the equation of power (which you weigh up to see your strength) included considering that there was enough mal-contentment in those who voted remain, the media and the political class to cause problems for UK negotiators. Especially under Theresa May, we were negotiating with the EU while MPs were calling in our parliament to overturn the decision. Right or wrong of Brexit aside, just as an analysis of strength, you must see that that weakened the UK position (even if you think it was for the right reasons).

It's the language of someone who has lied or cheated to get what they want and desperately wishes for everyone to forget it.

Nah it just means move on I have and therapists will advocate that an important part of heeling from loss, whether is death, divorce or leaving the utopia of the EU is to mentally move on as that is the best way to progress in a positive way with your life

I voted leave dont regret nothing i still know i did the right thing why cant you remainers just accept the MAJORITY voted leave deal with it

@@williamgreen6716 why do you care if we give up or not? I'd guess that you know your voice was wicked and you live in fear of it being reversed.

Why would you want to ????

@@delcamelot Because we are still suffering the consequences. Because we want it be a warning lesson. Because until the responsible admit their guilt, apologize and starting undoing the damage, things will continue getting worse.

How did this county survive pre EU days ? I'm not suffering ? Are you married ?

@@delcamelot We had a very different economy pre-EU

@@samprice1302 Maybe ...anyway Brexit is about our country not being run by The Huns and Verhofstadt! The EUro has bankrupted Italy and Greece who is next ...

It wasnt get over it

Best question ever

Ask a Brexiteer if they even cared or knew what the EU was pre 2014 ... I think I know the answer

That's like saying ask Italy if they would have stopped talking and complaining about narrowly losing on penalties had England won euro 2020 instead.

@@charliezz6746 what……..

voted leave and would vote leave again and again

@@stevealdridge9720 Steve, you see, at this point, you need to explain why you would (don’t say ‘sovereignty, laws, borders and money because that’s all proven nonsense). Otherwise, when you make comments like that on a clip like this, you’re reinforcing O’Brien’s point and, frankly making yourself look like a silly sausage.

@Watchman Of Manasseh Flags. You voted for flags

it was a binary choice for a complex question. Racism won.

@@stevealdridge9720 bet you love the price rises you're currently facing. would love to hear your reasoning on why you'd vote leave again - but i know 100% for a fact you won't be honest.

and how Westminster wants to stop Scotland to decide on their own future, it is a sovereign decision. hypocritical no ? And the 2016 referendum was not even legal one, just advisory !

@@jyvben1520 My goodness you lot are all clones of James! Try and think for yourself.

@@rosemarywoolley8394 Is it scary for you to see so many people talking sense? So how did the UK decide it's future if it did not have sovereignty?

@@jonathonrobinson6081 Darling you are right there is no way I should have commented, sometimes I can't help myself. I have tried to reason with you lot before and you are so blinkered in your belief it really is not worth the effort!

@@jonathonrobinson6081 so many people ? your the minority. the left cant buy a vote.

but it's not just a 'buzzword'

But not even these hardline Brexiteer could mention fish! Sovereignty being the only thing they can’t measure means it’s the only thing they can cling on to

@@middleman9183 Yupp it is. Souvereignty without giving your school children something to eat is just that: A totally meaningless buzzword. We are souvereign - as were the Brits since the romans left the shop. But we would never get the idea to NOT feed our children. Or our pigs when it comes to that. We would not get the idea to cull our pigs just: Because. Or to say Christmas does not happen, sorry mate we got no christmas trees, no poultry and btw. you will get the best cabbage you every imagined. Because its the only food you will get. Bye matey!

@@ollieflj Yes i missed the fish. And the pigs. And the starving children. Maybe they are not important anymore?

@Adam Riddle what's the point you're trying to make?

I originally voted to enter the Common Market when we first went in with Wilson and Heath as both the main parties then were pro entering despite De Gaulle, but over time my view changed and i do not regret one single minute of my view now that the institution of the EU is corrupted and we will in the long term be better served be out of it.

@@pistoleer3572 how will we be better out of it? The corruption is better because it's closer to home? The massively preferential trade deals we had will be better now that we don't have them? Human rights protections are better when we don't have them? I see what you're saying but you didn't explain 'why'. From my perspective, you were fooled by someone promising you it would be 'better' not to have a close relationship with our neighbours with no actual way to prove it.

@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I was fooled by no one especially those Remainers who told lies themselves Osbourne and the like, and what human rights have you lost since we left Answer None, we want a close and friendly relationship with our neighbours but what barriers have we erected against them answer None , they would be lying if they tried to claim the same, as for corruption well that's by degree the world over, at least we can actually change our leaders we have no say who runs the EU when there's only one candidate, even communist countries no longer by and large try that one.

@@pistoleer3572 I asked a question, and I thought you were giving a serious answer. Now you're just posting moronic Farage propaganda - a guy who took a decade of pay from the European Parliament to NOT represent us, got us into Brexit, and then bogged off to France with his wife. I'll wait for someone who is going to be honest and serious to answer the question - your service is no longer required.

@@pistoleer3572 cool opinion bro..but any actual facts?

Supertankers turn onto a new course for safe and sensible reasons. The Brexit supertanker had no charts, no radar and no GPS when it did its turn.

Just pictures of Farage on the bridge windows

@@rajekamar8473 and Gove "people have had enough of experts" over the tannoy...

4% damage to gdp might be a price worth paying. And that is if your trust the OBR and believe it will be 4%.

@@alansmith3733 I still don't understand what Brexit gains and I would genuinely like to follow the reasoning. We have more red tape, exports are more difficult and for many businesses impossible - many are stopping exports, closing or moving to EU. Fishermen can't export the fish the UK doesn't like, farmers can't as easliy export and there aren't the people to harvest the food. Meanwhile with no import controls and bad trade deals these industries are being swamped by cheap imports and will be largely destroyed We are now a much smaller market so no trade deal will be better than those in the EU and many worse e.g. New Zealand what do we get to export? We could always make our own trade deals, just that EU ones were normally better We get a lot of tax from banks and a lot of that is moving to EU. Large businesses are telling us they aren't coming to UK because of Brexit. We have worse supply problems and a greater shortage of medics, hgv drivers, care workers, food processors etc etc than the rest of the EU becase we have stopped EU workers. We can't replace all of these and some take 7+ years to train. We used to have a say and a veto on EU legislation, some of which will continue to affect us. Some of the important safeguards that were part of the EU to make us safer are being for political reasons torn up by the UK government e.g. consumer rights, employee rights, environmental protection - is anyone really happy with lower standard food and raw sewage being dumped in rivers and the sea? Really? How is that okay? If you want to live, work or retire in EU you can't or not unless there is a lot of money involved. EU holiday: Pay for hospital cover, higher insurance costs, more mobile phone costs, etc Loss of direct access to EU IT system advising of criminals/terrorists, making us all less safe Just bad gov't but choosing to lose Erasmus and Galileo satelite (which we helped fund and could have carried on using - pay a lot more for a satelite company that can't deliver instead). We had sovereignty before, just like all the other EU countries. We helped create and voted in favour of nearly all EU laws because they helped the UK. The Bank of England still controls our money. Roughly 80% of imigration was non EU (we need the labour) Roughly 20% EU (we need the labour) Like other EU countries we could have sent people back after 3 months if no job (neither Labout nor Conservatives chose to do this - we need the labour) The EU wanted to clamp down on rich tax avoiders though... scary if you are a rich tax avoider, who knows might make you want to "take back control of our money..." rather than pay more tax for the benfit of people in the UK...health, social care, schools, roads, etc Tax avoided means we have worse services and/or the rest of us pay more tax than we might Some of my reasons why I think Brexit is bad. I would genuinly like to understand from someone that is still pro Brexit - what are the benefits?

Karl just proved what we already knew, Brexitter's are not sharpest tools in the box !

Like when these people talk about time to heal. I WASN'T ILL before these idiots voted to take away rights for the common man& woman away. We could live in 27 other countries like they were our own no questions asked. But he prefered to give give lying politicians that little couple more percent of sovereignty to be able to reduce our rights. Saor Alba 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 westmafiaster & the Queenie are poison

@@staunch2207 it's 27 other countries, mate. GB was 28th.

Sovereignty. There you have it. Finally O’Brien gets it.

@@redknight4805 Yeh I thought that ,I'll correct it,cheers! Well we successfully lost 27 other homes . But a couple of wonder brains now have total control on nothing but our lives.

It's a meaningless phrase when pointing out that what remainers said would happen is, clearly, happening gets you evasion and abuse.

You have no choice. Create division on purpose or put aside your differences for the wellbeing of the people you love alongside. The remainers still cloning to the last are usually people who are generally bigger and resentful of many things in their lives

@@weeblywinkleman6410 what are you on about? There is this perception here that people are stuck. Truth is, it doesn't matter if people accept the result or not, we're out, this is the reality. We no longer have MEP's, nor are allowed to live, study and work in the EU Visa free. So, that's it, brexit is done. However, the implications of brexit are still around. People say move on right? Well, the gov. isn't moving on, it's seeking to renegotiate a deal it itself signed. Why don't they move on? Why don't unionists in NI move on?

@@weeblywinkleman6410 Either you have no spell-checker or English isn't your first language. Either way, I'm scenting troll.

@@realhorrorshow8547 No he's British and probably follows Michael Weavers channel.

So what is wrong with that?

@@davidatkinson5858 what’s wrong with that? Because we have always been able to control our own laws, borders and money. The lie is that the EU prevented the UK from doing this. For example UK pound and border control and the UK leading in nations development of international law. Dear oh dear. You can blame the like of David Cameron and Theresa May for not enacting these things.

Wrong again

@@davidatkinson5858 Nothing at all wrong with that. But the Brexiteers failed to realise that it works both ways, and that's where the problems stem from.

Watching James is hard work ,why people phone in is beyond me ,what’s wrong with a debate on the radio why does he try to make people feel small and awkward.What does James want does he want us all to vote for whatever he voted for .Lets all do what James wants us to do .

This is so true and UK is very far from democratic. Many people are not well educated and many do not take advantage of the voting system. The media is also very low level in general, but feeds and controls a demand. The Politicians have seriously betrayed the Nation. Very sad.

@HHR So I'm supposed to be pleased about loosing my freedom of movement and future generations being denied the right to study, travel, work, start a business, enter politics, own property or retire anywhere in the EU am I? Please tell me what have you gained?

@HHR Never say never, you just don't know what the future holds. Believe me if family ties and health cover permitted I'd move to the EU, but thanks to likes of you I can't. But why can't you answer my question: Please tell me what have you gained? Because no other leaver can tell me what they've gained. I'd love to know that at least someone has benefitted.

@HHR Prior to Brexit I could have freely moved to the EU and received excellent health care. Now I can't just move there and if I go I'll probably have to pay for healthcare. So just to rid your neighbourhood of Eastern Europeans who were doing the jobs that no one else wanted to do you have prevented millions of people enjoying a full life that entitled them to move freely around the EU doing the jobs they want to do, with all their rights and healthcare protected, a privilege you've also removed from yourself by the way and have made trade and scientific, social, and commercial cooperation more difficult and costly. Some trade off.

@HHR Everybody got defeated you genius

We did. He died. Neil Rogers. You can find some of his old shoes here on you tube. Miss him dearly.

Hey, you got the great Jimmy Dore.

@@seanspawn7805 I’ll check him out. Thanks

@@seanspawn7805 yeah. Not my cup of tea.

😂 He's a fking joke here mate another privileged gobshite still fking moaning about losing 🙄

Explain how getting our country back under British government rule again, free from the EU Parliament who hated our country, and it's ppl, is a "deluded decision".

@@wanderer1955 can you provide any evidence that the EU hated the U.K?

@@wanderer1955 Get what country back???... What illusion is being conjured???... What kind of past are you searching for???... The world is moving forward but we should go backwards??? What should be spoken of and focused on is the protection of the current and future interests, security and prosperity of the millions of members of this COMPLEX country... This is brought about by the execution of MATURE decisions that take in to consideration the real state of the world... Much like a combination of the Acts of Union and new Capitalist based ideologies of Adam Smith and others, rescued this country, propelling it forward, by giving it a responsory platform to the problems of the 17th to 18th century, which brought about the discovery of long term value in subjects, it is our duty to respond to the current problems of our day, with the most effective strategies that sees us capable of standing firm before the advances of the BRIC nations in this modern world that brings with it its own set of problems... There were people from our history who barked about the establishment of the Union (United Kingdom)... And thank the heavens that they did not win... We are now facing new winds, and driving quickly down an express way, while resuming a reverse position that sees us looking out of the back window, is NOT going to cut it... We have now opened ourselves up to being carved up in a dynamic world... Forcing those leaders that we have who indeed may be astute to act against our long term interests from an lack of executable choices that will see us fire selling our assets as unimportant liabilities... And that will be our sovereignty... For example, our giving of this countries data, without argument, from the MI6, MI5 and GHCQ, to Amazon for safe keeping, allowing us to access it over the cloud... Now that is sovereignty... Question is 'Cui Bono?..." If the history of this country speaks true... The writing is on the wall...

Its like people cannot see... The problems of brexit have not yet festered.... With London, for example, having lost over 700,000 people in the last few years. And previous debt levels among all types of organisations (zombies included) having been set to cater for a larger population, this would be only one of the multiple Achilles heels that would send long waved shocks through the system... Recovery from Covid is going to be very interesting...

@@RussXodare After reading that pile of 💩 I had to get real toilet paper to wipe my eyes out. Please don't write anymore, I have run out of toilet paper 😖

The only way to have true sovereignty is to be an isolated nation with zero trade deals. Once something is agreed internationally then it is set in stone, you cannot unilaterally change something. Trade deals are not a single line saying "trade each way is free" - there's rules, caveats, regulations, minimum standards, dispute mechanisms etc. All have to be adhered to, all are also loss of sovereignty. With the deal with the EU we arguably have less sovereignty than we used to. We have no seat at the discussions so cannot veto any potential changes (such as minimum standards) which we'd be subject to, and let's not forget the new border between NI and the rest of the UK.

Also if people were not so ignorant they'd see that some of the best legislation that impacts ordinary people came from the EU, things like working hours protection, maternity right protection, environmental protections, minimum food standards, animal welfare standards, and guess what the EU was doing that really prompted the Brexit push, closing tax loopholes especially for corporations, that is legislation that the EU has brought in and what really prompted us to leave because all the tories rich buddies didn't want to have to finally pay their actual fair share of tax, and the EU was going to force them to do that.

@Adam Riddle Ah I see you prefer being subject to the lies of Boris, Gove Patel etc because … well because they are British Sovereign Lies … FFS 🤣

@Adam Riddle Well at least back then you had a right to veto... Now you just have to swallow it up. Name an EU-rule that you object to.... Still waiting for that one...

@@vullings1968 Well, the banana curves.... and... their pesky metric system.... and...

And it also nicely encapsulates the problem of bitter, bile ridden remainers who refuse to accept democracy.

@@nick1065 Our criticism is not about the vote, but about the situation brought about by that vote. Where's the cake we were promised?

@@nick1065 hahaha you really think your owners would ever give you democracy? Wow They knew that they could control and brainwash enough of you with wall to wall immigration scare stories. They won...you lost.

@@urbanimage ‘our criticism is not about the vote, but about the situation brought about by that vote’ In other words, your criticism is that you lost the vote. You have(unknowingly) perfectly proved my point.Thank you.

@@nick1065 If you haven’t seen by now the ongoing problems and damage day after day, then you truly are living in Brexit cuckoo land. Democracy is playing no part in this demolition of peoples wealth, rights and living standards.

The UK joined the economic community under Heath - it morphed into the UK being in the political one. O'Brien should really give context to the situation before going on a diatribe.

We democratically elected MPs to do it for us. As Brexit has proved we are incapable of making any informed decision as the information provided was false. Referenda are a recipe for disaster and beloved of Right wing parties.

@@stephenreeds3632 Your spot on we the elector Democratically Voted Democracy that is the Differance something you will not experience with the EU

@@fingerscrossed2453 No, Ted Heath made it perfectly clear at the time that we would be joining a poltical union as well as an economic one. Anyway, now that Brexit is disintegrating as fast as the Tory government I'll give it six or seven years before we have a referendum on rejoining where the British people will certainly vote in favour of doing so. 👍

When your autocorrect has more power than your grammar

Hes right though Susan, and you know it.

@@Alessandro--- omg that auto correct comment is one of the best comebacks I've ever read. Lol

@@Alessandro--- 😆

Absolutely correct

Democracy prevailed Thank you Boris and the people of great britain 🇬🇧

Not to mention all the tricks they did to get it over the line, AGAINST the democratic vote of the Irish or the Scotts. Democracy is more than "we had a vote". Especially since nobody wrote "we do close to no deal Brexit and then turn it into a no deal Brexit step by step" on the ballot.

@@emowhite6150 Are you blind? Can you not see the immense amount of damage that Brexit is doing to the UK from tension in Northern Ireland to fishing wars with the French to a long-term 4% decline in UK living standards?

@@davidfaraday7963 I'm still waiting for the recession I was promised for voting Brexit Guessing another project fear announcement been debunked

Surely it is James who is in denial. He can't accept that Brexit has happened.

@@jameshogan6142 How so? He's talking about the effects of Brexit. And that depends on the fact that Brexit happened.

@@matthewzuckerman6267 He's been talking about it for the past five years. I suppose he will be still talking about it in 2050. He needs to accept that it happened and readjust his frame of mind to that reality.

@@jameshogan6142 Talking about it, yes. Denying it happened, no. I don't think anyone denies it happened.

@@matthewzuckerman6267 For sure but the horse has bolted. Why does he invest so much energy on what should have happened and why people didn't listen to his advice. Can he not just accept that the people who didn't vote his way might actually have been justified in their decision.

If he wants he can look for a job here in the netherland...ooopss he cant, he is a brit, so no free movement

He is a tax accountant. Of course he will have a job.

He probably sells sandwiches near a bank somewhere....

@@odethebear I know him. He's a cashier in an amusement arcade.

So the report that they are talking about is objective fact ? Maybe you should Google the definition of fact sweetheart lol….

@@GeorgieGeorgeable Did BeardiusMaximus specify the report as the focus of his comment? Maybe you should Google 'smug self-righteousness and how to avoid it'... sweetheart.

You're lucky. In Hampshire we have sewerage contaminated drinking water.

So you are happy that an elected leader of a country is unelected to make decisions on your behalf and runs/ran an unelected, unaccountable, anti democratic organisation where billions of your taxes are shipped off to Brussels no questions asked and you focus your thoughts on untreated sewerage off Weymouth Beach as serious as it is?

@@jasonkingshott2971 James said it was one of many reasons. Is it just foreign unelected bureaucrats you object to? Our own unaccountable unelected bureaucrats have spaffed billions up the wall just during the pandemic. The money would have been used better by those in Brussels whose activities we used to have a say in and who used to put billions back into Britain. Our current government has recently u-turned on a promise to compensate communities in this country that used to do well from EU financial support. Floating logs are just the tip of the iceberg.

@@venusfooltrap7371 The democratic UK majority obviously disagree with you as displayed 5 years and 5 months ago. By Thursday, 2 May 2024 the UK electorate will have decided the fate of the incumbent UK government. When did JOB get the opportunity to vote for Mein Fuehrer Merkel to run the organisation? As for the EU finances, why won't it allow independent auditors to fully scrutinise it's accounts, the emphasise being "independent" and "fully"?

@@jasonkingshott2971 I don't recall the 'democratic UK majority' being asked what it thought about the influence of our own unelected bureaucrats, but I did just ask you, and you side-stepped to avoid acknowledging your double standards. You ask when James (or any of us, really) got the opportunity to vote for Merkel, and of course we didn't. So when did we get the opportunity to vote for or against short-sighted King Cummings? As for EU finance audits, the last one I heard about was when Farage and his UKIP crony MEPs were found to have claimed €500,000 fraudulently on expenses from the EU. Maybe the EU is as corrupt as Nigel and Dominic and Boris and Jacob. The list is a long one on this side of the channel, but it's only a scandal if they're foreign, right?

Yeah it was one of the most uninformed votes outside of the last two American elections. Still remember hearing that the UK's biggest search result the day after the vote was "What is the EU?"! XD

I see the idiots, the remoaners, are intent on being more Hiroo Onoda than Hiroo Onoda.

Yeah the logic of let's keep having a referendum until we get the result we want...

In other words the vote didn’t go your way and you’re a bad loser.

@@nipdrip34 Oh man does that ring a bell over here across the pond! XD

He probably operates a till at the checkout in the local Tesco's

It's a show. Set up for your entertainment. Lol

He puts the fake money in Monopoly board games for a living

Adam Posen

the vast majority of economists both here and abroad predicted this shitshow, along with major business organisations....he probably sells mortages at his local nationwide...

It is a talking point that was used. Though in truth I think it was the idea that certain goods and trade items had to meet a universal EU standard so it could be moved freely among them. That was the issue. That UK used this as an idea that they were under the shackle of another entity. Though now they realize if they remove those standards the EU wont even accept those products.

@@archforge And the quality of those products/services will be much much lower.