They said from the start what they were going to do to Gaza. Apologists pretended it was some precise military operation targeting Hamas. But Netenyahu and his party were always clear.
True however people should be Demanding What is their Future Plan for the people of Gasa Palestine Both sides did Many Evils and Wrongs And Nothing is Going to Change that
@@Elfrida-ls2moHow can you in honesty compare the actions of an apartheid colonizing state to the actions of those resisting the occupation and the inhuman treatment? I am sorry but theh are in no way and shape comparable.
@@SalikRafiqThey said there are no innocents in Gaza. That Palestinians have 3 choices. That no tap will be turned on. That Gaza will be razed to the ground... And much more. They were saying it from the start. But selective hearing was the problem. Quoting that they would destroy Hamas was the narrative played by mainstream media. Rather than analysing how exactly they would do that and if it stood a chance of success or if it was legal.
The Israeli Ambassador is only explicitly articulating what has been implicitly the Israeli position for decades, to which their allies have pathetically acquiesced.
They say this in Hebrew all the time and for years, when the whole world votes for the two states solution, only izrahel and its lapdog veto against it
Her comments are abhorrent but fighting a 2 solution and peace is on both sides. The overriding majority of Palestinians and Israelis want peace and that involves a 2 state solution.
It's the governments trust me. Sure theres people who shut off their brains and feed on everything their gov tells them and mainstream news. But everyone I speak are fully against isreals actions since day 1
Thank you James for being honest and fair! We have been screaming this from the start. Netanyahu held up a map at the UN 2 weeks before Oct 7th showing no Palestine and people still don’t want to tell the truth!!!
yeah I’m surprised he talked about a Map the Finance minister held up in a speech in france but didn’t mention the map held up by netanyahu showing only Israel from the river to the sea in UN. It was almost as if he only finds it offensive that Israel would think of absorbing Jordan but not offensive if they claimed the occupied Palestinian territories as theirs
He was neither honest nor fair. He's still talking about things that have been disproven and still acting as if this is a case of tw equal sides. he speaks as if the whole situation started on October 7th and consistently speaks supportively of Israel despite them being openly genocidal. He calls the Palestinians terrorists but not the Israelis, even though they have committed nothing but extreme terrorism since 1948. And as the above poster is saying, he is only concerned about Israel taking land if that means it takes Jordan.
James gets driven around in luxury cars , prob lives in gated community away from any troubles... what a privileged position it is to speak about a conflict half way around the world from central heated, fully catered studio.
Still not called out his mate Starmer though has he? It's quite easy to criticise Israel when even Biden is doing it. It takes guts to do it when the majority aren't.
A lot of people I know have been learning about the history of Israel/Palestine. Myself included. This is why I, and they, are more sympathetic to the Palestinians. The people who are unflinching in their support of Israel seem to be doing it purely out of religious zealotry or campism. Instead of learning history they are trying to rewrite it.
Correct if they knew the history they would know that Israel attacked the US also and there was a massive cover up it was the USS LIBERTY attack if you haven't heard of it look it up
And where do the Jews belong? They are the true refugees in the Middle East. Where are they safe in the Middle East other than Israel??? Why are they not in the rest of the Middle East? Think about it. Their calendar is 1000s of years older than the Palestines.
James O Brien 👏🏼👏🏼 I have become a follower of you, a true journalist, who embodies compassion, empathy, who sees injustice and isn’t afraid to seek and speak truth. Thank you for using your voice in such perilous times
Israel, with Egypt, helped lock Palestinians in Gaza and then began dropping bombs preventing refugees from escaping. The fact that people like James thought was justified and not collective punishment is part of the problem. That alone has international law & human rights experts saying it was a crime against humanity.
Israel wants to drive out the Palestinians out of their homes into the Sinai Desert for them never to return making them an Egyptian problem. Egypt says we know you trick you did this in 1948 and 1967 when you drove 100 thousands of Palestinian into Jordan, Lebanon and Syria @@AB-zl4nh
Palestinians and those who have been following the Israeli and Palestinians conflicts for decades knew all along, Israel never had the intention to have a two states solution.
When you've been hearing your entire life that the situation is "complicated" but that they are working on it and decades go by, you know it's nothing but a big lie.
@@RahA202 indeed. I tried to explain to a friend of mine. when you see the Israeli flag hanging with the lines running vertically its a signal to the far right.
We all know this. Germany until now doesn't accept the border from Israel 1967. They do like Israel has to find his way in a peace process. The 2 state solution is just a myth to win more time for more settlements
@@simontemplar404 and how many moved into the west bank the year after? Sharon even admitted disengagement was a smokescreen for increased grip on west bank. not to mention the blockade
If you're shocked at Israeli politicians saying that they oppose a two state solution, or denying the existence of Palestinian people or their indegeneity... Then you simply have not been paying attention for the past 75 years.
Yet Jews accepted the 2 state solution in 1947 even with its barely contiguous borders and certainly less than 1/7th of the area that had originally been scripted under the British Mandate authorities. It was the Arab countries who the day after Israel's establishment (a people remember who were still reeling barely 2 years after 90% decimation of Europe's Jews) invaded it with the aim of its immediate destruction. So you can cut the nonsense rhetoric.
From the river to the sea and the way it's been twisted is actually something Israel has wanted since 1948, and especially now having discovered natural gas and oil in Gaza worth $547B.
Just once, I would LOVE to see someone make this "2000 years ago people of my ethnicity lived around here" argument, as they are kicking a family out of the home and off the land they've owned for hundreds of years. I'm sure they will find it convincing and leave peacefully. Seriously, does anyone REALLY think this argument should convince anyone? Please, let me know and we can go together to the West Bank and try it.
Maybe some day James will admit that Corbyn was right all along and the accusations of antisemitism were a plot to get anyone defending Palestinians away from power (especially a socialist).
LBC THE FAR LEFT SHOULD DO A REPORT WHATS HAPPENING IN ANTI ENGLISH BRITAIN BUT THEY WONT BECAUSE THE UK IS AN ISLAMIC BLACK & INDIAN STATE MASS IMMIGRATION ILLEGALS 4000 HAMAS WITH BRITISH PASSPORTS THE ENGLISH DESTYROYTED A SMALL ISLAND
USA were no way as cruel and monstrous like Israeli are. I didn't know much about Israel before this war but what I have learnt is horrific. I wouldn't want anything to do with Israeli people.
If we let this happen and we let Israel take Gaza then we are so lacking in humanity that we don’t deserve to exist anymore. This is as wrong as wrong can be.
Agreed. Actions not labels are more accurate to what they are. The IDF was formed out of the terrorist groups like the stern gang and only their level of arming has changed not their targeting of civilians. A heavily armed, incompetent, cowardly, militia committing crimes against humanity under the cover of a state to never be held to account.
Yeah, she's a bit thick and so blinded with hate that she forgets all semblance of diplomacy and avoiding questions that previous ambassadors have had.
@@matty7758She at least said it out loud, to the International community, all other Israeli Representatives have skipped around the question or changed the subject.
I came here after watching a Piers Morgan debacle video. It's refreshing to hear someone like James talk. I'm surprised he hasn't been cancelled like Medi Hassan
@@ahronthegreat you have no idea what "my side" is. I'm against the killing of innocent people regardless of colour/religion. Piers has his "Moral quandary" about the killing of innocent CHILDREN in Gaza whereas James is brave enough to speak up against it. What happened before October 7th doesn't justify the killing of innocent people in Israel. What is happening after October 7th doesn't justify the killing of innocent people in Gaza. If you disagree then I think you are the one that needs to grow up.
War has always been against humanity, always…former soldier here, are all British citizens this aloof to what your country did throughout its entire empire building days? The millions slaughtered for lands you don’t even own now, yet will keep another countries artwork and historical artifacts because you appreciate them more fully than those who created it? You aren’t superior to Israel or even a terrorist group.
@@williamelewis464 yes we do know because us workers at the bottom were the canon fodder they sent to their deaths over the years in the millions so that the elite could make ginormous profits. The elite are so bad I bet they would sell bullets to both sides just to make an extra buck. Remember the average Johnny in the UK did not get the vote until 1920s or even right up to the war years 1939-45. And the political establishment was invented well before then and is still under representative of the normal Brit. We had work houses well into the 20th century and only after sacrificing millions in two world wars did we get a proper wealthfare state. It's time that the British people put aside our political leaders in favour of community leaders who act in the best interests of the British people in Britain. If only we had spent the billions of pounds we spent on war recently to building up infrastructure including road and rail, schools, hospitals and homes and the like for everyone, we would have happier and then more caring population. We have and continue to be played by the elite through politics and through press and media. We can't win; well not at the moment it seems. That's why it was possible to peddle Israeli lies and forget about our international commitment to finding the Palestinians their own state that they can once again call home.
It’s their land. 1000 years before the word Palestine was ever even spoken, Israel existed. It’s Quite literally a universally agreed upon fact by scholars. Even by opposers of Israel, like Egypt who have found ancient hieroglyphs talking about & directly naming Israel, dating back to 1200bc.
This was never just about Hamas. It's all about the land. The plan has always been, regardless of past agreements, about taking that land and clearing out any non Jews. Pretty sure this won't stop with Gaza. If the world let's them get away with this Israel will grow.
It took people too long to recognize this. Should’ve been obvious 2 days after the infamous date. Yesterdays victims could’ve been saved had people not been foolish and blind
The ambassador has the gal to claim the Oslo accords didn’t work whilst Israel repeatedly broke the border agreements by building illegal settlements in Palestine. They do it so brazenly even with international condemnation because they know they have the US and UK wrapped around their fingers
They controlled water, food, electricity, and the marine and they say the Oslo accord did not work. When was the Oslo accords ever implemented by israHell?
@droomankaas5904 they did, Rabin in November 1995 was followed by Netanyahu in office by the Summer of 1996 and the Oslo Accords essentially in shatters by the fall.
Israel is not pursuing a two state solution … greater Israel has been their policy and the leaders of the west have known it or should have-it’s been clear to anyone who cared to look at the situation for decades.
That's why I can't understand James only coming to this conclusion. He strikes me as an educated, well-read man. Did he not understand British imperialism, the Balfour project, and various other agreements in the ME ?
Israel, with Egypt, helped lock Palestinians in Gaza and then began dropping bombs preventing refugees from escaping. The fact that people like James thought was justified and not collective punishment is part of the problem. That alone has international law & human rights experts saying it was a crime against humanity.
Thank you, James. It took you a bit of time, and you showed the audience that you indeed did listen to the Israeli version of the conflict--but the truth of removing all Palestinians has been uttered by the Israeli government for years. We really need to take some time and inform ourselves.
@DC-js3ro Trump is far worse & will destroy American democracy. Trump would give Israel more money, more weapons & fully backs Israel taking over the West Bank forever. Trump must not win.
And what about the position Rishi Sunak and his government has taken? It was David Cameron who once said Gaza was an open air prison yet he has backtracked on his assessment.
"any more"? the entire world knew it would go the way it has. Is James telling us that he thought it could have gone any other way? Netanyahu aggressively protested against the Oslo accords, he's never been in favour of two states.
Everyone seems to have forgotten the trouble that bibi and Likud were in before the 8th. Months of protests, soldiers striking and bibi & son embroiled in courtcases. 18,500 Palestinian lives is not going to sway the relief that this situation must be giving bibi and his cohorts
@@-xirx- Those protests were largely over the issue of reform of Israel's Far Left Judiciary. That issue has faded away following the October 7th event.
Israels Jews will never agree to one state where the Palestinians are equals , and demographics decide who runs the single state. They don’t want end up like Protestents in north Ireland. Out of power because the Catholics outbred them.
Question James, why do you call the Hamas fighters terrorists and the Israeli fighters the military? Hamas did some things in terror--but by that nature, hasn't Israel done terror acts 20,000 times worse? You mentioned that you saw Hamas terrorists fighting the IDF--and that was war--but why the difference? What Hamas did wasn't right but we all should wonder what we'd do in their shoes if our lands, families, livelihoods, etc had been systematically destroyed over the course of 75 years and our only option was to break out of our concentration camp and fight like crazy. Remembering a hurricane that happened in the US--there was no clean drinking water in Florida for some time and people were literally beating other with baseball bats to get the clean ice? Kind of hypocritical if you ask any sane person. Just curious about your choice of wording here--especially since we've seen the true face of terrorism now everyday on our screens.
I think that US dragging this, to give Israel more time, has done long-term damage to US relations and influence in the world, not only with Asia, Africa and South America but also with parts of Europe. The animosity this generates is going to have long-term consequences
So you think for example that Erdogan gathering rallies to yell about “a just world without US” is just nothing. You are naive if you think China won’t use this sentiment to gather more nations into their coalition. This has side-effects you don’t seem to understand
The sad thing is that the world is abundantly aware of what is going on but the “powers that be” have an agenda and they are ruthlessly following it through ….. they don’t care. And if they can do it to them …. they’ll do it to anyone and then justify it.
I keep wondering what it would take for every journalist, reporter or anchor, to just keep a straight face like James O'Brien always does, and report the news to us the real way. I honestly believe he deserves the Pulitzer for his humanistic stand, and his high journalism standards in news analysis.❤❤❤
United States & international peace ?? Hahaha, where did the Nazis go after ww2.... Oh yeah, they went to work for the cia (operation paperclip) understand amerikkka are the real terrorists
This guys seems to love blaming the world's problems on brexit and the tories. Would labour under Starmer or the EU be any less supportive of this horrendous war? Or any war for that matter? Can't see it myself or on matters regarding climate, poverty. No way am I voting for cunting starmer. 3 years down the line of a "labour" government, everyone still sickened off, same problems, Rright wing culture war will still prevail. 50 quid a year richer cos we're back in the single market, brilliant.
Every issue Jeremy Corbyn warned us about has seen a larger shift towards his positions during this entire tenure of the election he lost. Idk if this is a moment of divine karma, its crazy how many times 'we should have voted corbyn has come up'. He really is too informed on issues as a long serving politician and activist. Always ahead of us all on issues.
@humanchannel7825 big difference between WW2 or Kosovo interventions vs The current Isreal Gaza conflict or the aftermath of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya for example
@@humanchannel7825like most Brits you clearly don't understand the difference between defending yourself and invading others. Sadly war has become an big business countries like USA need war to make money, war should be the last case scenario not the first option
'Death of a Palestinian child and indiscriminate killing of an Israeli child'- please tell me there is no differential value judgements in this statement. I hear this all the time from western journalists. Palestinians die but Israelis are killed or murdered. This just plain wrong!
Thank you for saying this James. As an American this is depressing and upsetting. Joe Biden is neolibral and Trump would have been worse I think. Bernie Sanders, a Jewish Senator from Vermont has been condemning what is happening. He should have been our presient and he would not be supporting Israel in this slaughter.
The ties to Israel run deeper than the presidency. No US president, whatever their conviction, could unilaterally abandon Israel. There would be global ramifications, with powers stepping in and belligerents making moves, that would be truly destabilising. We're talking WWIII. Best case scenario is US uses its leverage to reign Israel in; but we might be beyond even that now, they're pretty out of control.
I appreciate the fact that you're finally starting to frame this in an acceptable manner. It would be even better if you also publicly admit how you were wrong in the beginning, how your support for Israel's indiscriminate bombing of the Palestinians in the beginning gave the media support and backing to Israel's actions and the unnecessary loss of life. Also admit how you stifled voices who spoke out in support of the Palestinians. Contrition is a great and healing thing.
Agreed. I don't agree with all of James's politics but I was devastated when a couple of weeks ago he started suggesting that Israel had the right to do this. So very disappointed. Every day brings more deaths and a ceasefire should have been demanded 2 months ago!
@@razorednight sadly it wouldn't have made any difference. Israel doesn't care about the opinion of the rest of the world. This isn't the first time they've slaughtered thousands of innocent Palestinians it's just the most recent and the most deadly. They also know that no matter what they do the American and UK government will 100% have their back. And that includes Kier Starmer. It doesn't matter if the entire world is united against Israel nothing will ever change as long as they have America propping them up.
James I’m so grateful to you. You say it like how it is. We need voices like yours in these hopeless times! I have lost count of how many times I have cried, we are really losing our humanity. I don’t want this to be our fate. Palestinians deserve freedom!
It is so utterly dystopian to see history repeating itself like this. For a people to be dehumanized to the point where language like this is widespread and no one questions it or holds them accountable. Straight out of the Hunger Games
That would be foolish in the extreme. You can't possibly imagine the alternative to Biden would be doing you any favours 🤦♀ Biden might not be the perfect choice, but he's certainly the lesser of two evils. And it behooves everyone, US citizen or not, to take an interest in the 2024 election precisely because the Presidency/US Govt has such far-reaching effects and influence.
The problem is that Israel has created to many Hamas during this war as Hamas is an idea and you can’t eradicate an idea unless you come with a better one
It doesn't matter if you've created a bunch of new Hamas if they're given what they want, which is freedom and safety from Israeli oppression. Take away their reason to fight and there's nothing left for most of them to fight for. Unless you believe that they're just antisemitic terrorists without any logic besides wanting to eradicate all Jews, which is Israeli and Western propaganda.
@@chatham43a wiseman said, your terrorist can be someone else’s hero. Israel should just give these ppl their basic rights and let them have their own state. Hamas already recognised Israel as a state in 2017, did Israel did the same??? There’s no Hamas in the West Bank and still over 300 civilians were killed by the settlers and the IDF, do u support that??? Bear in mind that there’s no Hamas in the West Bank
They've been saying "There's no such thing as a Palestinian people" for a while now. But they will never specify what exactly that means and what they mean by it. Apparently it means whatever they need to mean to serve their interests.
Most of the Land Belonged to the Hitties In some Israel books it says the Hebrew bought the Land and In others They Stole the Land when they invaded with another Group If they bought the Land it is theirs If they Stole the Land Then all this Land Belongs to the Hitties including the Lands of the Caaninites Unless Israel's Can Prove they had A Claim Before the Hitties PS Sorry if I spelt Hitties Wrong
Well done James. You’re one of the very few that’s courageous, morally anchored and have the smarts to be bright ..bring light. This is the front line of a media war and it’s littered with mines: The freedom of Palestinian is also about people to speak a honest truth, and be guided with truth.
My low IQ students with IDD n ASD told me that they should stop the fighting and share the land…as a teacher I smiled and Hi 5…. If students IDD and ASD can know that why can’t the US President, British PM and the supporters of Netanyahu n his cronies. As an ESE teacher my heart goes out to all those children but more so the ones with disability who’s maimed or are now left without family😢
From 1948 it was patently obvious that the two state idea was not going to work, the land grab from the original map of the area to now shows what has been going on.
It should have been obvious *before* 1948. You can't just hand occupied land to somebody else and expect the indigenous population to sit back and let it happen.
@1inchPunchBowl No most modern Israelis are not indigenous. Even if we are to take their story at face value, before the 1940s they haven’t inhabited that land for 3000 years!! It’s illegitimate for someone to claim land because maybe their ancestors lived there for two centuries about 3000 years ago!!! Ridiculous.
@@1inchPunchBowl I'll second what @samara6041 just said and add that even if they claim to be indigenous, can they provide proof of that after a 3000 year absence? It's doubtful.
“If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing.” Malcolm X
Israel, with Egypt, helped lock Palestinians in Gaza and then began dropping bombs preventing refugees from escaping. The fact that people like James thought was justified and not collective punishment is part of the problem. That alone has international law & human rights experts saying it was a crime against humanity.
I fear for James O'Brian ,He is the only Human on LBC that genuinely cares for injustice from wherever it comes from ,and speaks courageously the undeniable truth , and that is why I will not be surprised if there is an attempt to silence him somehow. Stay strong James.
"Simply to punish all the Palestinians". A textbook example of collective punishment which is a war crime. How can you simultaneously say "They are committing war crimes" and "We will veto a ceasefire". I don't know how anyone can possibly stand by a government who openly acknowledge that a war crime is being committed and also openly state that they will veto any request for that war crime to cease.
"this isn't acceptable anymore...". I don't know when this was acceptable. Also how are we just looking past that Israel is the occupier in the first place?
Started as a terrorist group.. what message does that give the world.. terrorist should never be allowed to form a government.. they'll just build a powerful military organisation hiring criminals.. literally
2005 Gaza was given self determination and Israel fully withdrew. Jewish people of gaza were forced to leave by Israel. Gaza then carried on a path attacking Israel developing into a gaza cess pit of hate and terrorist indoctrination. Borders were tightened and borders closeddue to IED and suicide bombers.
The format of JOB’s show is a bit different to Sangita’s: she goes for one-on-one interviews a bit more, he is more of a polemicist. Neither is invalid in my view, and perhaps one style complements the other.
LBC THE FAR LEFT SHOULD DO A REPORT WHATS HAPPENING IN ANTI ENGLISH BRITAIN BUT THEY WONT BECAUSE THE UK IS AN ISLAMIC BLACK & INDIAN STATE MASS IMMIGRATION ILLEGALS 4000 HAMAS WITH BRITISH PASSPORTS THE ENGLISH DESTYROYTED A SMALL ISLAND
Israel, with Egypt, helped lock Palestinians in Gaza and then began dropping bombs preventing refugees from escaping. The fact that people like James thought was justified and not collective punishment is part of the problem. That alone has international law & human rights experts saying it was a crime against humanity.
6:25 I’ve changed my mind and came to the conclusion that Hamas is not a terror group? The only differences you call one side action, an operation in the other one terrorism, which is simply a neo colonial term applied to anyone who challenges the more powerful party, because the definition of terrorism isn’t based on the actions they commit, because they both commit terror, historically speaking, Israel has killed way more Palestinians under terrorism to achieve sovereignty. Example bombing king David Hotel, khan yunis massacre, massacre of Sabrah and Shatila, Massacre of Tantura, the Nakba, and every other so called operation.
Terrorist is a messy term because most people just think it means super-duper bad guy even tho the American revolutionaries and French partisans in WW2 were definitionally terrorists
Absolutely. Historically, any group resisting against colonial power has been labelled a "terrorist group" by the colonial power: the ANC in South Africa, the FLN in Algeria and so forth...Unbelievable to see that nothing has changed in 2023
Every empire, however, tells itself and the world that it is unlike all other empires, that its mission is not to plunder and control but to educate and liberate. - Edward Said
I saw a news where IDF ran tanks over a graveyard in gaza and another video where bodies of kids and women were piled up in a school. And then Israeli spokesman put blame on them that they were still in northern gaza. It still doesn't give u the permission to carry out massacre. The most unprofessional army in the world.
Absolutely correct analysis, James. You’re from a few brave and articulate individuals with integrity that are prepared to say things how they actually are factually without fearing backlash.
did JOB criticise Starmer when Starmer said that israel had the right to cut off electricity, food and water to the Palestinians in Gaza? I don't think he did at the time.
@@PeterPeteI’m sure he did. Starmer has absolutely zero shame considering he was a human rights advisor. It’s all pantomime by design, conservatives vs Labour just to keep the majority of commoners as they see us happy…back and forth with the same old story. In reality they’re just the same. It’s time we had a new party in power and have real change before it’s too late.
@@Theo_Isaacs not trying to start a 'fight' but O'Brien, I think, wouldn't be so critical of Starmer. Maybe he appreciates him over the Cons despite that they are lite Cons.
@@Theo_Isaacs not trying to start a 'fight' but O'Brien, I think, wouldn't be so critical of Starmer. Maybe he appreciates him over the Cons despite that they are lite Cons.
From this tragedy still unfolding - I just hope that the World will finally wake up and pressurise mass media to do proper journalism and not propaganda & to put pressure on politicians (by starting voting out the coward politicians which include rishi Sunak & Keir Starmer)
Bit late in the day for the likes of O'Brien to come and be saying this. 18,000, maybe more are dead and the western powers allowed it to happen with a complicit media pushing a pro-Israel narrative and FAILING terribly.
Bizarre comments as there was none of this condemnation a few weeks ago. We were being told by James "a cease fire and a pause is just semantics", as if language was the issue here, rather than focusing on war crimes. At least he's found his bottle, eventually to call it out.
Yep, that was pretty spineless. Most people knew on the 7th Oct. what would happen to the Palestinians. What has happened is shocking beyond my imagination, but I knew it would be bad. There were media voices who anticipated the violence.
Jeez, James, you took your time. But glad you're finally able to see clearly. For a lot of people we've seen it clearly for a very, very long time. Not just in the last couple of months.
James O'Brien, _always_ late to the party, finally seeing what so many have been telling him for ages. I wonder when he'll wake up and see the real, multi-faceted Sir Kid Starver and quit his sycophantic endorsements of him.
Israel apparently has 2 more weeks to finish this.. that's the deadline the US gave them.. how some people in power can actually go and sleep is beyond me.
