Absolutely love these Dutch birds ..I've just started back flying here scotland with horseman theif pouters but last time flew birds had lovely (blue bar white bibbed) hen there lovely birds very light on body but massive crop globes and can fly so good and always little chatty hens , but what noticed about that hen that I liked was she wasn't chatty n keen at other end at opponents bit she was only chatty and would spin on coin for me at her own end and loft .which you want and she was only young hen not alot experience she had never been caught don't think but she never once came close getting caught when I had her .I had sell her along other birds when separated with ex partner had nowhere fly them .. but someone got really good hen on her she really was special wee hen .must been special if still remeber her as only few birds in your past that stand out and during that time was her and big orange chequer cock that I got from shop he was in bottom pen bag bones n feathers looked terrible but I took him gave him some tlc got his condition up standard and he was a machine he was solid another bird came nowhere near ever gettin caught wouldn't light on building or other loft only flew and landed back hut of wing great cock aswell .. I'm really wanting go Holland and buy as many birds as I can to fly n breed this year hopefuly or if anyone see.s this can give me email address or contact info for birds plz .. all best every birdman out there .. take care